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Note: In an episode it is stated that there are multiple Charming family lines.

I want to point out that the Evil Queen being able to cast a spell through the mirror was not a plot hole it was just not clearly explained. In the books it is heavily hinted that somehow the Evil Queen is finding ways to slowly weaken the magic of the mirror prison. Raven even remarks that her mom got a change of clothes and hair dye which she shouldn’t have been able to get inside the mirror prison. Then in one of the Shannon Hale books she almost tricks Raven and Apple into using a spell to break her out of mirror prison. They realized and stop the evil Queen, but perhaps there was some lingering magic that further broke down the security of the mirror prison. Then in Way too Wonderland we see her knock a book off shelf to interfere with the story. It is not until Dragon Games when presumably the mirror prison has become even weaker that she is able to make an apple levitate to get Apple to break her out.

What's really sad about Ever After High is that there was a planned crossover with Monster High that was written as a book and we even saw Frankie, Draculaura, and Clawdeen react to voiced animatics. But because of the cancellation of Ever After High and the upcoming Monster High reboot at the time, the movie was cancelled when it was 75% done

I love that daring is the beast and darling is apples princess charming

15:59 Actually I’m pretty sure Ramona is Cerise’s full older sister. It always confused me because she didn’t show up in the Cerise family picnic episode but it was mentioned she was banished to a different school before she first appeared so that could’ve been where she was.

Honestly I think a EAH reboot is the only way they can go. They really painted themselves in a corner ending the rebels v. royals and Evil Queen plots so if they want to make more content, they'll have to start from scratch.

If only they'd continue Ever After High... it was so good and had amazing ideas just never got it's full potential

also, from what i understand, there are several Charming families in Ever After. Daring, Dexter and Darling are all from the "big" one, but there are apparently several other branches of Charmings that produce mostly princes for different fairytales. I don't know if this is actually true but I saw it in a youtube video so I'm going with it

Can we just appreciate that fabulous Chat Noir shirt???

“but i’m not watching the show for realism therefore it gets a strike” YES!!! omg so many people go on AND ON about how realism makes the best shows but it’s good to have shows that are just made to be fun and sell toys. that’s literally how we got a majority of our cartoons!

There were maybe two things I really liked: Dappling for the representation though I love Rapple a bit more, and Apple going through a lot of character development by understanding how it feels like to have to do something you really don't want to and not having a choice in the matter. Sure Apple did have the choice of confessing what she did, but knowing her need to be perfect because yay childhood expectations, that wasn't going to happen without some pressure.

I also agree that Epic Winter wasn’t a great season and it was even a worse ending special. I like SOME of the things they had in there like Apple and Daring’s awkwardness after what went down in Dragon Games- that seemed natural and Rosabella and Daring were cute. And Daring’s arc as well. But other than that I can’t really think of anything that really stood out to me. It was all pretty… okay. Just kinda okay or bad.

It is with Rampant Fervosity that I say Daring was the best thing in Epic Winter. His arc was really nice to see and the awkwardness with Apple felt genuine and nice to see as well as him defaulting to his vanity as a way to cope with the panic of not being Apple's Prince Charming.

I love how Negative Legend totally didn't mention that the shadow high book was the book version of the Lost Moive, which was going to be a Monster High/Ever After High Crossover. But they did a book instead. On a different Note Cerise and Ramona are full sisters, they're both the daughters of Little Red Riding Hood and the Badwolf. Just Romana is older thus Badwolf Destiny and Cerise is younger thus Red Riding Hood. Daring, Dexter and Darling are all Siblings though. Daring is litteraly 9 months older then Dexter and Darling who are twins, and they're birthdays all land in that way where they go to the same grade togehter. As for relations, it was said in the webisodes that all the charming lines are not related, so Apple and Daring, and by extension Raven & Dexter aren't related. Fun Fact Apple & Raven aren't related in the series but are in the books.(Good King is Snow Whites and Raven's Dad, yup)

I forgot literally everything about the epic winter episodes lol, I thought they came before the dragons games cause the dragons games felt like more of an ending

I actually got into Ever After High through the books I’ve never seen characters literally chat with the narrator until those books

This show can try and say Darling gave Apple only mouth-to-mouth all they want. I know I love the idea that Darling is Apple's true love and that's the canon I'm sticking with

Just checked AO3, Darling Charming and Apple White is the most popular ship for EEH with 235 works, with Apple White and Raven Queen as number two with 169 works.

To answer the question about how Darling and Daring are related, it’s mentioned that Darling and Dexter are fraternal twins (heyy ive got a twin bro too :D) which is why she’s younger than him. Darling and Dexter’s personalities being different is also really cute >w< !!

I see you've chosen to make me wait for more EAH content. What kind of a cruel joke is this.

So right about the stripper name thing… knew a girl who’s first and middle names were Crystal Angel… unfortunate

Omg, the Storybook of Legends was my absolute childhood! I read it over and over! The way they fleshed out the characters was delicious, and the book and pages were so beautiful!

IDEA FOR A NEW SPECIAL A few years after graduation, most of the characters are lost in life. Darling is off fighting battles, which leaves Apple to rule her kingdom alone and without any help, while her subjects still adore and compare her to her mother. Raven's music career is not taking off, and her relationship with Dexter faces problems as he also doesn't know yet where he's headed. Briar is dealing with her parents and brothers who don't agree with her choice to not sleep 100 years and her sole comfort is her cousin Rosabella, Daring, Hunter and Ashlynn, who are environmentalists fighting against animal cruelty which is very difficult in the fairytale world. Hilariously, Blondie Lockes is forced to spill the tea on all her former friends in her webshow "Just Right". Suddenly, a young witch student shows at Ever After High and curses her fellow students to follow their destinies, a Royal extremist. Moreover, she curses Holly & Poppy O'Hair and locks them in a tower. All the old students are called to help their friends but the path to the O'Hair's tower is treacherous and tries to seduce each of them who haven't already into fulfilling their destiny (Raven, hunter, Ashlynn, Briar) It is revealed that the witch's spell over Ever After and the O'Hair's can only be broken after a 100 years, when all of their stories will have ended. Except Briar, if she chooses to...skip to that part of her story... Only after refusing and Dexter climbing the tower and saving the O'Hair twins, Briar finds out that her family worked together with the young witch...

My issue with the new characters like fairy good fairy and snow queen girl is that up till now. EVERY SINGLE ever after high character has a unique personality that makes them interesting. It's probably not the characters fault cause they didn't get any time to develop but they still feel just...there. Also the snow girl, the fairy girl, the mermaid girl, they all kinda....look the same. U can sum each one up to 2 primary qualities. Misunderstood and Kind. that's it.

kids books in general are soo seriously underrated. i worked in preschools for a while and the new big book series here in my country is called "mickey and helium" about two mice siblings that are transported to another world where they're lost royalty and go on quests and such, pretty standard fantasy setting. we used to read one chapter a day at the school i was at, and when i tell you i was more invested in the story than the kids sometimes

"Tinker Bell is Disney". No honey, Tinker bell is a fictional character from a novel and play written by J. M. Barrie's in 1904 and 1911. Disney wasn't even the first to make a Peter Pan movie.

The only thing I can remember about “Epic Winter” is Daring furry, snow and the worst couple, Daring and Rosabella

Wasn’t in 2018 the “Monster high boo York” special in which we saw apple and raven at the end? Maybe that’s what they meant😀

Evil Queen's student character design was so pretty

Also you should talk about the lost eah and monster high crossover special because that is likely what was supposed to come after Dragon Games and that is why the last season is such a wreck!

I really liked how the book expanded on the "what happens if I reject my destiny?" question. The show really makes it clear that Raven's side is the "right" choice and Apple kind of comes across as a selfish jerk. The show tries to give Apple's side an angle by making her afraid of what will happen to the people she loves, including Raven, but it's just not enough. "Dragon Games" is arguably the best special of EAH. I can't help loving the dynamics of Snow and Apple, and Raven and the Evil Queen, and then Apple and Raven. I love the armor fashion. I'm down with Apple being saved by her Princess Charming. "Epic Winter" was . . . . ok. I do like how they used the evil mirror dust from "Dragon Games" and weave it into the original Snow Queen story (where a mirror made by the devil shatters into a thousand pieces and a boy Kai gets shards in his eye and his heart which turns him into a compete jerk.) Rosabella's story was nice too but I never really cared about the spotlighted characters much so I was much less invested.

13:20 I'd like to point out that the reason Darling's kiss worked on Apple but Daring's didn't was explained by rosabella in Epic winter she said that apple's true love was going to be someone who was brave, nice and selfless, Which at the time Daring was not. Darling however, fit all the traits- so i think that's why her kissed was able to wake apple. Daring js didn't pass as an actual prince charming

Regarding the Shannon Hale Books, I was really surprised how much I ended up enjoying Raven and Dexter's scenes together. Which is surprising given how much I wasn't a fan of Dexter when watching the webisodes. I don't know if it's just how Shannon writes them or they're just given more time to interact normally before Dexter gets all puppy-love towards Raven. I also love the Maddie chapters where she talks to the narrator. How the font changes when it's Maddie talking and how the formatting and design of the pages changes to reflect how it's from Maddie's "perspective". edit: Rampant Virvousity

I'd like for ever after high to get rebooted into a full length animated series

Btw, in the video it is mentioned about snow white and her king, and about the relation to the charmings (eg daring). It is mentioned by Dexter and Daring during a webisode (I believe it's called Blondie branching out) where they mention that there are multiple families with the last name charming and they are not related to them. Perhaps Snow White married a king from one of these families?

I loved dragon games, but only because of the idea of dragons lol, didn’t really love the ending

What I really dislike about epic winter is that they didn't use Hans Christian Andersens snow queen for the plot when EAH usually does use the "original" fairy tales. . For example the mirror shards from the evil queen get distributed across fairy tale land turning people in to their worst version of themselves which is similar to the Andersen story. Raven and Apple could feel responsible for this and would try to find a solution with their friends and go on this wacky journey. The characters could try to figure out who they are outside of their stories and deal with their inner demons brought to the front by the mirror shards. They could meet the daughter of the snow queen who is cold, calculating and unloving because that is the nature of her family but by befriending the EAH gang she could start to feel warmth and love and then help the others. There were opportunities to make it a nice special in dealing with the aftermath of the evil queen and the royal vs. rebel conflict and introduce new and interesting characters. But its clear that at this point EAH was lost which resulted in a mediocre special with new underwhelming characters (especially crystal, her arc was boring and made no sense). But I do like epic winter for giving us small Briar x Faybell moments and for giving other characters a moment in the spotlight.

Yea the marriage thing doesn't make a lot of since but in one of the episodes, I believe it's in season 2, it's explained that there are different families with the last name Charming and are not related to each other. So the Prince Charming of Snow White is not the same as the Prince Charming of Cinderella.

If you guys think but it's creepy that during is dating Apple remember that one episode where Blondie didn't want to talk about herself because she wasn't actually Royal well in that episode we learned that there are a bunch of unrelated Charming's so that explains how daring is not Apple's brother

*clicks on this, expecting it to be ready in three minutes* "Premieres in two days" Well shit

I think that the Epic Winter story line was loosely based of the fairytale of the Snow Queen in which a mirror that shows only the worst parts of you breaks and it gets stuck in a boy eye and heart causing his once cheerful personality to shift to a cold icy one this is also the story that disney VERY LOOSELY based frozen on i highly suggest reading it or watching the overly sarcastic productions video on it

i immensely appreciate these videos, not only for being fun on their own, but for alerting me to all the EAH content i missed by only watching on netflix. this shit's stupidly hard to track down !! i watched the "big bad secret" episode and it made me smile the whole way through. i honestly love slice of life episodes in this series, and i'm glad there were more! edit: also, the word you're looking for is "fervor." rampant fervor. with that said, fervocity rules

I'm just staring at your Chat Noir shirt because I've been a bit obsessed with PV Felix this week and find this a very weird coincidence. Seriously though I love PV Felix's character concept.

You know will be a good way to actually have Raven in epic winter is to have the whole castle be her castle because in the fall everything sort of kind of decays so it would kind of make sense for the fall Castle to belong to the Evil Queen

“Princesses stay strapped” I HOLLERED 21:28

Princess Academy was so near and dear to my heart as a child I reread my copy over and over until the spine fell apart

I really enjoyed the deep dive vids! EAH holds a special place in my heart because I never grew up with fairytales. It filled a gap in my childhood and I will miss the series. Glad that it's getting a bit more spotlight and hopefully this brings more traction to get the series back 😭

I remember when Epic Winter came out, I was like “okay, that was a nice in between kind of special, wonder when the next real special is coming out” But that was it. That was “the end” of Ever After High. Extremely underwhelming.

Going to AO3 immediately after the kiss what a mood 😂

Fun fact: At the end of Boo York Boo York (I think) Raven and Apple have a cameo

okay i totally get that the rosabella and daring beauty and the beast thing was SO obvious but i didnt care when i first watched it and i still dont. I ATE. THAT SHIT UP THEYR SO CUTE😭😭

honestly, i wish there could be a Good ever after high reboot. things like making Actually apple wlw and coming to terms with that would have so much thematic and symbolic meaning, if raven and dexter's relationship or even dexter and cupid's was more fleshed out (if they didn't drop cupid as a character lol.), if lizzie and daring's dynamic was more fleshed out as people who both aspire to be like their king/queen parents... so many ideas and implied storylines were there they just never got the chance to be fleshed out

"The queen yeets Apple out the window"

RAMPANT VIRVOCITY If a reboot/revival of EAH comes, I hope it actually gives more good sides of the Royals' stance. My biggest gripe with EAH is that everything in the series favors the Rebels' cause too much. It makes the Royals look evil by comparison. Furthermore it makes villains like Faybelle who actually want to follow their destinies more likely to just switch to the good side just because someone helped her with self esteem issues or something like that. By the end everyone is basically a rebel now and barely any Royals are acknowledged. I want more expansions this topic like a character who fears the loss of a tradition or someone who is more determined to make sacrifices to fit the mould. I want actual action taken to glorify the traditional tales instead of lip service that a child would ignore.

From what I can remember from the books Apple is the daughter of a Prince Charming who is from a different line of Charmings to the line that Daring and the others come from.

"The legand of shadow high, wait a min- THIS BOOK" was my exact reaction when I found this out too 😭😭😭

incredibly ready for a reboot season that's solely focused on Apple and Darling/Dexter and raven because we all know that's exactly what it's gonna be!!

I kinda want to see Mattel do a reboot as a sequel for Ever After High, something that's the opposite of Monster High generations. Instead of updating and redefining the original cast to fit modern age kids, there could be some interesting exploration in how the movements and status quo endured by a parent may have drastically evolved by the time their kid grows up. Royals and Rebels, while a central gimmick, got dumped rather fast in the narrative, so how would, for example, a child of Raven engage with this dynamic? Would the children of the good-aligned rebels be royals, or would there be even more discontent with living through a status quo?

I think there was a short before Epic Winter where we meet Crystal. I think Apple and Maddie go there for a school project or something? I remember Jackie making Maddie count snowflakes for them.

You know that like episode where Blondie fakes being sick like you only said like they're like a bunch of unrelated Charming's so basically Apple's father is not darrings father because there are bunch of unrelated Charming's

I absolutely LOVED this Deep Dive!!!! Please do more of it!!!! . . . . . . . Rampant Fervosity!!!!!

Tinkerbell is a character in the original Peter Pan book, so not disney! The pixie hollow stuff is all disney though Rampant virvocity

People ask me( a lesbian), what was my “omg I’m gay” moment. This entire arc, I swear my only type is darling charming or raven. No in between.

I loved ever after high, I've always liked fairytales a lot, and seeing it all go down in quality and just kind of collapse near the end was sad. But like you said at the end of the video, the monster high reboot is giving me a bit of hope for a possible eah reboot. I would be very curious to see how they'd go about it

I've been a HUGE fan of EAH for years and I really enjoyed your reviews of it! I own most of the books too :) Such a super fun show that got me to fall back in love with classic fairy tales 💖 I remember I made an oc too back in middle school lol 😂

in Monster high G3 there is an episode plot where CA cupid was to return with a whole new name but with her similar monster high design . in the plot it explained that she used to live in anther world that ended up getting destroyed so she decided to transfer to monster high sad emoji. G3 monster high basically ruined any hope of a ever after high comeback to happen. oh well

I rewatched the whole series with my friend, and apparently, after Daring saves Faybelle from debt, the mob faires leaves by doing Sailor Moon poses, which I didn’t remember happened until then!

the reason apple backpedals and goes back on her development is because she has the pressure of 3 adults to be perfect, the next snow white, and to get raven on the evil path. it is too much to handle so she reverts.

I hope they reboot it but they drive in the Rebel v Royal thing, keep Apple's hardheadedness, and one notable change I'd make is that Rosabella and Briar are the super distant cousins, while Cerise and Sparrow are first cousins, with Cerise's mom and Sparrow's dad being siblings. Because it should be impossible for Rosabella and Briar to be first cousins based on the 100 year sleep thing. Sleeping Beauty is actually one huge plot snare the series never addressed. Supposedly Raven's mom cursed Briar's mom, according to Faybelle. Which is impossible if she slept for 100 years. It'd make more sense if Raven's mom cursed BRIAR before Faybelle's mom could, and if Faybelle, like some other characters, doubles as the evil fairy in another story.

The Dapple reveal was what made me go from "tentative interest" to "omgomg give me more of this please", but thinking about it a little more, I'm starting to worry that their intention with that was to give Apple a way to "rebel against her destiny" in the end for cool points but still end up with Daring, because they made him not-her-destiny and thus the newly transgressive choice. That'd be a really odd arc to play to with your only hint of a wlw ship, framing IT as the oppressive convention to break free from, but...man. I can't take it in perfectly good faith. Waiting with RAMPANT FERVOSITY (I think the word you're looking for is "fervor" but fervosity sounds cooler) for whatever happens next with EAH, though! It might be the one show to benefit from a Woke Girlboss Reboot(tm) because well- they're already pretty girlboss but I think it might be an excuse to make the wlw ship actual endgame.

i really love all of your ever after high videos - it makes me want to pick up the novels, for sure! 😻

Thanks for coming back 👍👍👑🔥

rampant fervocity (it’s not a word :c) now i have to read the books bc i honestly miss eah so much, but this was such a fun series and if that reboot ever does happen, i look forward to your videos on it!

There was a planned crossover special between Ever After High and Monster High as was hinted at with Astranova contacting Raven and Apple in the movie "Boo York, Boo York", along with the Monster High channel uploading shorts of Clawdeen and Draculaura viewing animatics as a sneak peek. However due to the Gen 2 reboot and Ever After High being canceled (or hiatus as Mattel claims...) the project was shelved but the crossover was later brought back as a book by Shannon Hale. I've watched the animatics including looking up a planned kumiho character on the wiki and it was interesting...at least the book did it justice by having the characters from both franchises meet to stop the Evil Queen's latest scheme

I never watched Ever after high but I love your video essays so much, they are fun and interesting, I hope you can monetize these episodes and thanks for making great content!!

My theory as of why Darling managed to remove the curse is because she's simply worthy(being the most chivalrous of the Charmings), Daring is a vain Chad & Dexter is an awkward nerd. Also, the Charming family is one of the biggest family in EAH world as Apple commented when Darling talks about her family tree as a class assignment. I doubt EAH will get a reboot since rumor has it that that's what caused Mattel to lose the Disney Princess license AND Disney creating the Descendants. And now that Mattel finally got the license back I don't think they'll take any chances. P. S. Enchantimals is still going to this day, I guess kids find them cute & it's very affordable.

Honestly i think that the plot point of Raven going evil would be my next step but she would not go evil on her own will it would be like the magic slowly deteriorating her mind

the after credit scene from monster high boo York, boo York also hinted at the crossover with EAH, really wished they did something with it.

Got to meet Shannon Hale and I got the 4 main books signed by her. She talked about the process of how she got involved with the series. Can confirm that she was writing the story with only a glimpse of the dolls and a few story points. But she wrote majority of the story on her own. So Ever After High as we know it wouldn't be the same without Shannon Hale. She was a really cool lady and I'm glad I got to meet her. Got a note written from Maddie >:3

I love that you encourage me to read I need that kind of positive influence in my life, makes my brain feel good when I complete books

12:52 Daring actually isn't related to Apple (how weird would that be lol). It's mentioned in the family tree webisode that Dexter and Daring come from a separate Charming family. So Apple's dad is still a Charming, they're just different families.

I'm a big supporter of Selfor's "A Semi-Charming Kind of Life." The relationship between the twins, Dexter and Darling, is fabulous. The level of affection, understanding and mutual support between two people who don't fit the family profile is, pardon the expression, Charming. The fun part of the series is that the Evil Queen actually gets almost everything she wanted. Raven accepts her powers, learns to be devious and manipulative (to defeat the Queen, but still) and eventually signs her page in the Book of Destiny.

I love your deep dive of ever after high with rampant ferocity

Shannon Hale is a great author, I would 100% recommend the Princess academy books, I promise you that they're not what you're probably expecting.

They could have so easily had apple replace the booking glass and give the evil queen a fake which would a) make more sense, as her mother would trust her and she already told the evil queen about it and b) show that while apple is still against the evil queen, and that freeing the evil queen was an impulsive decision and the evil queen was blackmailing her, she is still willing to cut some corners to get her promised destiny.

“Princesses always stay strapped” …there are like ten jokes there.

I needed this kind of energy today 😂❤️❤️

I think that it would be better if they did thw whole arc of giving the pages of the book of legends after this special. It would made more sense with all the character development they gave Apple.

I love rosabella & daring tbh. They were so cute to me. Also would've loved for the parents to be shown in winter story.

Arghh I’ve been waiting for this video! Can’t wait to watch ❤

Rampant fervocity- 😂 Thanks for the video! Also just started watching your channel after KZfaq wouldn't stop recommending me your Vampire Knight. No regrets on finally caving in. Made me realize how I don't even remember anything about the Epic Winter special but remembered Darling's 'CPR' on Apple more than anything. 😂😂

As someone who grew up with EAH and still loves the characters, I really wish that Mattel gave it more love than they did. Even though I lost interest pretty early on (I was already a teenager by the time the movies started coming out), it saddens me that a story concept with so much potential was pretty much squashed by Disney (and yes, when Descendants came out I was adamant that they were ripping off EAH). I wish they would try and do something with the series again, especially with the Monster High reboot starting to find its footing. I'm kind of curious as to the direction they could take if they tried to do a show targeted towards their older fans as well, as I'm sure Mattel is well aware of the teen and adult fanbases

Anyone else wonder how the teachers didn’t notice the extra student (aka evil queen)

(Rampant fervocity go brr) On a real note though: I've just discovered your channel and after watching all of your videos covering EAH, you have earned a new subscriber with your interesting perspective, sense of humor, and general wit. Huzzah, keep up the good work!

rampant fervocity. thanks for this three videos, works very well as kind of background noise, 10/10

ahhh so excited

So excited for this im going to convulse

This has been fascinating, I started this series a while ago but never followed it all the way though because the webisode format was too slow-burn for me 😅 I’m glad you did this, I’ve never been happier to be wrong, especially about such a gorgeously animated series.

I have horrible memories of the ever after high books because it was the only library book I had ever lost and I felt so bad when I went to my public library and had to tell them I lost the book i cried