Almost the same boat. Meat eater got me into hunting, and THP has helped me on my journey to be a better hunter.

Can't argue with that. Stoked to have you guys!

@@HUNTRPODa push to limit rifle and crossbow hunting to only even or odd years. (Excluding handicap) With bow hunting being the main method, would increase population growth and decrease pressure on the herds and flocks. IMHO

Same boat man

Same here. Had family into it but by the time I was old enough to hunt, everyone quit hunting lol. KZfaq hunting helped me immensely. Took me 4 seasons of only bow hunting but I killed my first deer last season ever...with a bow! Addicted dude! I bought the THP adapt and looking forward to this season!! Good luck dude! Edit: I'm a Private land and permission hunter mostly.

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Spot on!!! That phrase is going to stick & be repeated often!!!

Make hunting hard? Come to SC public land upper state lol. I think our deer use OnX too and waypoint hunters 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Not at all the point. The point is not enough public land to keep jamming new hunters into. Private you can do whatever you want, but public you can’t control the next guy, so there’s only so much room before you are out maneuvering hunters more than you are hunting deer

@HUNTRTUBE yeah and there will only be less over time with more hunters. Protect the land we got and welcome and develop new hunters. It might be perspective as well. Social media allows u to see how many people are hunting. U used to only know someone else was hunting an area u were by the lil debbie wrappers they left.

100% there is a time and place. Jeremy and I will be there some day Lord willing. But we'll shoot verticals as long as we're able

⁠@@HUNTRPODbut when you do shoot a vertical, shoot a compound, but shoot only the latest technology of Hoyt carbon fiber…kinda hypocritical don’t you think ?

Yes he is

Uggggh hate that!

It's a fair argument. But, what if tomorrow, your state said "you know what, we have too many deer. It's bow legal to shoot them at night with a spot light." Are we still on board?

@@HUNTRPODI’m sure there would be those who would gladly do so, but I’m not going to sit around and bitch about it. I’m gonna go on doing my thing, hunting and being happy. I truly believe the PGC wouldn’t shed a tear if the deer numbers dwindled. Look at the amount of tags they offer up year after year.

They are one of the good ones, there are a lot out there. Mississippi imo is the best. Maybe not the most money but damn do they have great people.

Hunting not hunted *

Awesome to hear man, good luck this season!

It's indeed complicated and hard to not react or think with emotion attachment from our love to hunt and the whole shebang! Alot of your not wrongs from many angles to the extremely nuanced topic. I think just trying to keep the mental somewhere around just hunting,being happy for our opportunities and others success/happiness if a spike does it however vastly different the goal is. If all is up n up,paid,not illegal then exceptance without resentment and dragging our mental down is the only way forward! It's wild out there though and being triggered much easier then facing it takes all kinds of kinds and we as individuals broadly speaking have earned no more then the ol'skip the hardship straight to big time hunter in reality if they have the resources then they have the choice freely murica.😂 I've lost all traditional ground and spent 7 years mad as hell to no good affect. All a nonsensical,nothing good possible foolish mentality that hurt me and me alone when I shoulda been glass half full so I highly recommend glass half full across tge board. Just get out there and take the lumps and we'll still find that which we seek whether that muie grande is taken or not

I would see this as an opportunity. The amount of pressure on the public ensures your private can be the safe haven for daytime buck movement. I hunt only public and the big bucks I see only travel at night on the public. You might get a chance on the big ones in the first day or two of the bow season but once they catch wind of the hunter presence they never set foot on the public in the daytime. I would just make sure your boundary is clearly marked for no trespassing and keep on that to ensure your zone is unpressured.

You're right to a degree. A few of the older deer definitely shade away from the public. The bigger problem is age class. The best 2/3/4 year olds just have a super hard time making it. @@Earendur08

Appreciate the support!

Haha ok

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what is the difference, from a hunters point of view, between hunting over a pile of corn they bought at the store and hunting over a field plot they planted on their property? Sure, one requires more work on the part of the hunter, but does it change the perspective of the deer? no, it's just a food source to the deer all the same. I don't think anyone who's calling for an end to baiting, an end to crossbows for everyone but kids, old folks, and the disabled, I don't think you guys understand that ultimately you're just calling for more power and resources to be concentrated into regulation enforcement. Example, you want to end baiting? ok, so you're prepared to grant legal access to your property by game wardens so they can check your property for bait piles (meaning they can just walk onto your property from anywhere without your knowledge or permission to check for bait piles)? Like....we all know that writing something into law is no guarantor of compliance with it, and if you can't or are unwilling to enforce a law, then it is effectively not a law. so before people start calling for more rules and regulations, maybe consider the consequences realistically. The truth of the matter is that deer respond to hunting pressure more than anything, and ohio is one of the most pressured states in america; it's more likely that public land deer are responding to hunting pressure more than the neighbors bait pile a quarter mile away.

They have their place, just not sure it’s simultaneous with vertical bows

Crossbows are not the same as bows. The skillset to shoot a crossbow is not the same at all. Someone with no experience can accurately and easily shoot a crossbow. This is not true for a bow. Crossbows also allow for less movement. All you do is raise the crossbow, aim, and pull the trigger. That's not a lot of movement compared to a bow that has to be drawn, and then held for a period of time before releasing a shot. Inconsistencies in bow draw, hold, release etc all negatively affect accuracy and require practice to overcome. A crossbow is point and pull the trigger. It ain't the same. Crossbows have their place, but I agree that the place for a crossbow is not alongside the entirety of the bow hunting season as if it's the same thing.

@@Earendur08 I agree crossbows are not the same.Here is more info. I have taken 30 deer on public with my matthews mxz.Handed that down to my son. I personally can’t draw it back anymore, when temperatures get below freezing. But I still want to hunt with my son during bow season. There is why I don’t agree in separate seasons. That’s my 2 cents. I am concerned with dwindling amount of hunters . I have given it my best to teach other dads and kids . Bow hunting is a rush like no other.

What I think they're honestly doing is showing the average guy that he can get out there and put just a tad bit of effort and be successful which is inspiring new and old hunters to get back into it

It's a fine line. I come from a serious hunting family, and everywhere we used to hunt is now more crowded than it was back then. Our whole hunting group agrees. Private land becomes more of a necessity the more time goes on. Even if it's only 5-10 acres. Got to have a back up plan these days. That being said, every part of our society is more crowded now. Not just hunting land. Hunting industry people just speed up the process.

Yea I know Pennsylvania has voluntary stamps. Sure people are cheap but I buy a wild trout and musky one every year

I've noticed less people now in west TN. I'll take it lmao. Where they went in Middle TN kinda gave away too much. I like 2 hours from there, but still knew immediately where they went. That area got plastered afterwords.

Adapt and conquer fellas👍🏻

Welcome to the team! Setting up for a hell of a season

That’s it man! I bet you smack one this season

Yea I experienced that in Mississippi…wild

Yea 2009 you are correct

Do you realize that if there was less successful competition there would be more deer for you to get a chance at? The baiting and the crossbows make it easier for others to kill deer - deer that you won't be able to kill because they got to them first. If they couldn't bait and if they had to learn to shoot a bow, they'd have to learn to be better hunters or they would simply fail. That's more deer for you to hunt.

Thanks!

Interesting approach. Uber for hunting. I know some guys have tried starting something like this. It's tough tho bc hunting Properties aren't as disposable/universal as a ride somewhere

The same guys that complain about corn piles hunt over standing corn that gets bush hogged and what is harvested just gets put back into feeders.

Thanks man

If I practice over and over can’t I be as ethical with my vertical bow

That Hatfield and McCoy Trail is in the Bowhunting Only counties too, right?

@HUNTRPOD yes.. a lot of it is..u can use the trail to travel to and from hunting areas. But cannot hunt on or near the trail itself..

@HUNTRPOD I live near the Lincoln , logan, mingo, Wayne County lines(Cabwaylinos stare park) near East Lynn Lake, and if you ever decide to hunt or fish in wv you have a free place to stay and a free local guide.

We are trying. Some of it is the delay. Rogan is all in person it’s a lot cleaner. The internet lags with guests make it hard

Understood 👍🏻! In person is always better. Thanks for the great podcast, I enjoyed it.

It’s absolutely faded that’s for sure

Oh very nice to know

So you are in favor of distribution of wealth? Someone earns $1M and you earn $50,000 so you should get assistance? Yea didn’t think so

@HUNTRTUBE where do you get distribution of wealth from what I said? Like which part? That it's funny hearing some rich dude cry the poor guy is ruining it for him? My whole point/belief is mind your own business. Don't worry about what your neighbor or fellow man is doing, unless it is directly harming someone.

Compound bows still require all the same fundamental skills a traditional bow does - minus the skill of a finger release. A crossbow takes 5 seconds to learn. A compound and a trad bow take a similar time to learn, the difference is the compound gives the shooter more opportunity to be consistently accurate. The argument that a compound and a trad bow are very different in practice is ludicrous. The gap in skill require between a compound and a crossbow is much larger. Not so much with a trad compared to compound.

We are almost there in a lot of parts of the country

@@jonessportfishing I am starting to suspect that to be honest…

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