The relative self and reincarnation - Bob Thurman

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Science and Nonduality

Science and Nonduality

9 жыл бұрын

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A conversation with Bob Thurman on non-duality, emptiness, and the true nature of the self.
A recognized worldwide authority on religion and spirituality, asian history, world philosophy, buddhist science, Indo-Tibetan Buddhism and his Holiness the Dalai Lama, Robert Thurman is an eloquent advocate of the relevance of buddhist ideas in our daily lives.
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@jpielemeierpianist
@jpielemeierpianist 7 жыл бұрын
this man is a genius
@teddyl7006
@teddyl7006 7 жыл бұрын
This man is scatterbrained.
@TorontoCanadaandon
@TorontoCanadaandon 4 жыл бұрын
He is Genius
@summondadrummin2868
@summondadrummin2868 5 жыл бұрын
Because any life is thourougly dependent relationally for its seeming unique existence there is no actual seperate self....but life also appears to revel in uniqueness and one of a kind POVs which gives us the dynamic tension of differences that we use to generate creativity in response. Life is relationships in continuous process
@karolfrench5816
@karolfrench5816 4 жыл бұрын
THANKYOU for this inspirational and clear explanation . Perfect. 🙏🏼
@pureone26
@pureone26 7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful
@SudipBhattacharyya
@SudipBhattacharyya 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@IAn0nI
@IAn0nI Жыл бұрын
Brilliant pointer to Truth
@indreamswake
@indreamswake Жыл бұрын
brilliant teaching. 🙏
@alkaagrawal6793
@alkaagrawal6793 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing 👍🙏 I just completed a course with Prof Robert Therman about River of Indian and Tibetan Buddhism from Columbia University!!
@GGT950
@GGT950 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. He’s my hero.
@alaineb2643
@alaineb2643 Жыл бұрын
Hi Alka, I also took that class. Really great class, and the comments from the other students were also really helpful and full of insight and brilliance. 🌈
@brendenmoore9040
@brendenmoore9040 5 жыл бұрын
"...people go around thinking they're Really real."
@dwarkarudradev5144
@dwarkarudradev5144 Жыл бұрын
When you return from samadhi you return to yourself!! Yourself is real and it comes first before the universe exist!!
@tsampadi
@tsampadi 4 жыл бұрын
Really Enjoyed this,thank you so much, but,and maybe its quite a naive outlook or question of mine,isnt Alaya another description for Relative Self,and isnt that completely destroyed when the Migrator gives birth to Bodhi mind,which is still Empty of inherent existence,but Bodhi Mind and Alaya cant not Co Exist? @ Bob Thurman
@davidwilkie9551
@davidwilkie9551 5 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of Duality
@1210CM
@1210CM 6 жыл бұрын
Scholars often lack true understanding.
@indrani8378
@indrani8378 5 жыл бұрын
Very true...
@indrani8378
@indrani8378 5 жыл бұрын
I couldnot follow any head or tail of what he says...hopefully he understands what he is talking about...
@minhtue90
@minhtue90 5 жыл бұрын
indrani sarma it’s a very difficult chain of logic, but to begin we should contemplate Buddhist theory of two truths: the relative and the absolute, and then the concept of shunyata (emptiness). Finally we get to a very deep point in emptiness meditation where it gives rise to ultimate compassion. Having experienced the ultimate nature of reality, it still matters to take care of the relative stuffs, such as being a good, ethical person.
@indrani8378
@indrani8378 5 жыл бұрын
@@minhtue90 Thank you for this deeper explanation...his lectures are profound but time consuming
@bernardliu8526
@bernardliu8526 3 жыл бұрын
This is, alas, all Greek to me.
@celestialteapot309
@celestialteapot309 3 жыл бұрын
He could have just said nothing is reincarnated.
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne 5 жыл бұрын
If there is no self how can there be compassion? How could the Sakyamuni remember all his pastlives? Buddhism is contradictory!
@minhtue90
@minhtue90 5 жыл бұрын
Gieszkanne no self does not imply a lack of consciousness. English is a difficult language to translate these very specific technical terms but what it means is having no absolute permanent sense of self, we are going through changes all the times. Meditation on this subject helps to reduce and eventually removes the mental boundaries between the self and others, and thus giving rise to compassion.
@saswatabiswas190
@saswatabiswas190 4 жыл бұрын
he didn't get properly.that's the basic problem of most of the western guys.because they are not used to self and non-self and all of a sudden when they came to know they can't digest. what buddha taught his followers didn't get it because buddha was one and his followers are many
@GGT950
@GGT950 3 жыл бұрын
If he doesn’t get it. The Dahli Lama doesn’t get it either. Since this is his teaching.
@markbrad123
@markbrad123 6 жыл бұрын
There has been evidence of rebirthing with people knowing details of previous lifes. Many have had experiences of astral projection. Some have had flat lining journeys. As any astral body is dependent on the actual body its best to keep the body free of any animal suffering energy food. Eat life attract life.
@1210CM
@1210CM 6 жыл бұрын
optizap What you call evidence of rebirthing is most likely an indication that there is another way of knowing, a knowing that transcends space and time.
@markbrad123
@markbrad123 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I was really blown away by Ellen G White(Seventh Day Adventists) prediction of 9/11 disaster in a book written in the 1800s.
@SpiritualReform
@SpiritualReform 6 жыл бұрын
What you see and call evidence may not be what appears to be. In fact, the opposite can be the truth. Here is a very short explanation of what you perceive to be evidence: people, mostly children, who remember their other lives are in reality tapping into the lives of their other selves, thus believing it is their past lives they're remembering. Now, also, you'd have to understand that TIME is perception that we experience - in other words, there truly is no time. Well, if there is no time, then what we view as the past is still perception. Everything is happening NOW. If that is so, you'd probably ask: then why do they remember those other lives? The answer: they're not remembering anything. They're simply tapping into the lives of their other selves who are presently having those experiences in these other dimensions where the experiences are relative to what we view as our past, and in some cases, as our probable future. In other words, there are realities where people (aspects of you and i, and everyone else) experience what we see as our past, and also realities that we see could be our future. We're all connected to our other aspects of our Self (your Essence). Children are able to connect with these aspects of self more easily. Nevertheless, we all connect with our other selves through our dreams; only we go thinking that we're just having dreams, not realizing that many times we're tapping into the lives of our other selves who are having these experiences in these other realities. Have you ever dreamed that you won the lotto, or maybe killed someone? Most likely that you tapped into another of your self who had that experience in that other reality.
@davidbrainerd1520
@davidbrainerd1520 8 жыл бұрын
This is complete nonsense.
@davidbrainerd1520
@davidbrainerd1520 8 жыл бұрын
+David Brainerd Furthermore, Buddha didn't teach any of this shit in this video.
@ShakinJamacian
@ShakinJamacian 8 жыл бұрын
+David Brainerd He explains it in a very confusing way for people who don't get basics that they'd only get in experience. If I sit here and say "you have no free will," while a scientifically-supported argument, you'd call bullshit on me. The same applies to the relative self - the ego or soul as some call it - because we identify as that, and don't have experience behind us to see that it's largely a concept and a put on to our organism. Again, we can call to science to support this, but data means fuck all unless you get it. It's the problem of climate change deniers: it's not that they're intentionally idiotic people, it's that in their experience, they infer a duality between man and nature that isn't there, even if the data can argue that such division is in fact bunk. That doesn't mean a thing for those who cannot absorb the data. This is exactly what many do in regards to the nature of self and the illusions of dualism naturally inferred in everyday thought. If you want someone who covers this topic more informatively, I'd suggest Sam Harris and Alan Watts. The former does so solely from a neurological perspective, while the latter does it from a philosophical one. One of these should surely help you get the points made by Bob, for they're ultimately true and accountable, even if he didn't "sell" it to be understood to the average Joe.
@neguinhodavs
@neguinhodavs 8 жыл бұрын
+ShakinJamacian science says no such a thing about free will
@carlranger8060
@carlranger8060 3 жыл бұрын
It's Piffle.
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