In actuality probably the same thing that was shown in ROTS where SPHA’s were mounted on the hanger to provide firing arcs underneath the ship under the command of general skywalker for the open circle fleet

Haha

Thats called a composite beam i think

That was a SPAT cannon.

Those are the venators in Anakin's fleet. All his venators have a SPHAT in the lower hanger to shoot out at anything that flies under the ship

If you want commandos versus commandos it should be the silent shadows or zealots Elites

ehhh, one are augmented perfect human clones that are a bit above the normal human limits. The other is an alien with strength surpassing a wookie while also being incredible agile and fast enough to keep up with spartans which process things essentially in slomo such is their processing and reflexes. Clone commandos certainly ain't to scoff at but in melee range they get obliterated and they are in general less durable

@@allanon64king10 brutes are indeed stronger than wookies but the elites? I don't see them being stronger than Legends wookies, maybe on roughly equal in strength but certainly they aren't much stronger than the wookies. I only see the elites winning fue their energy swords, the commandos aren't equipped with weapons capable of parrying such weapons, only a lightsaber or magnaguard staffs could parry the elites and it would take time to equip the clones with similar weapons.

Laughs in repulsive gauntlet thing

@@carlosdgutierrez6570 i believe the elite's ingame feats and books both show them as stronger in comparison to the feats we see of wookies. i don't mean to belittle wookies in the slightest but elites are shown to launch people near effortlessly completely dominating regular humans and being able to contend on par with spartans. I wouldn't say they are stronger by a large margin but i do think they take the cake. But to the conversation at hand, i don't think commandos stand any chance if elites close the gap, they HAVE to make distance and they HAVE to maintain cover while doing so or simply be shot by the elites going full gunho at them

The main guns on the Venators, while not as powerful as you would think given the size of the vessel, can rotate a full 360 degrees in three seconds, helping them stay on target with the agile Covenant ships

Venators are versatile, acting as both carriers and battleships

One thing that keeps me consider. The republic uses Venators as a battleship when engaging ship to ship combat. For me Venator is kind of like a carrier but i would call the Venators the "Battlecarrier" since it’s roles are Carrier and Battleship at the same time.

@@thepalindromeadept1784 In spite of the fact that it was a poor choice for the role when you could simply leave the Venator behind a line of combat acclamators which were smaller, had significant firepower for their small stature while the venator was undergunned, and required _far_ less crew to operate.

The biggest advantage I see with the Covenant is range. Halo battles take place and tens of thousands of km in distance, while SWs takes place at near point blank range. Covenant would just have to sit back and pick off Republic ships before they could even get visuals

More like, he'd miss the ship completely and venture far off into spaaaaaaaaace

@@swedish0spartans I mean clone jet packs are near incredible…

@@imhere8474 It was a joke considering their aim (at least as Stormtroopers) 😜

@@swedish0spartans clone trooper =/= storm trooper. Clones were created from one of the deadliest bounty Hunter in the galaxy and trained viciously, these fuckers were bred for war. Storm troopers on the other hand were mostly volunteers, they were given training by mostly demotivated clones who could barely stand the empire in the first place, before being deactivated and told they weren’t allowed to go into combat. Then there is the gear situation, clones have remarked how much worse storm trooper gear is, mainly in visibility, the cause for the stormtroopers infamously bad aim.

@@imhere8474 You got me there. Gotta respect a fellow brother who knows his lore

Galactic Republic navy: 400,000-2,000,000+ warships made from Venator star destroyers(1,137m), Arquitens light cruisers(325m), Acclamator assault ships/Mark II cruisers(752), victory class star destroyers(900m), Consular light assault cruisers(115m), mandators/Mark IIs(8km), and many planetary defense fleets. Clone army: 25,000,000-13 billion Non clone forces: 800,000,000-30 billion Tanks/Repulsor craft/walkers: 12,000,000-670 million Jedi: Around 10,000 Territory: 100,000-1,500,000 worlds/systems Weapons/Armor: The phase I clone trooper armor was more of an environmental suit, which could only take light blaster shots, and shrapnel. It could not even protect against projectile weaponry. The phase II was stronger and more comfortable(If equal, or greater than stormtrooper armor, is strong enough to tank anything under a 20mm). Clone troopers typically carried two thermal detonators, two concussion grenades, and one electromagnetic pulse grenade. The DC-15S was capable of shooting the equivalent of a 14.5mm round of plasma. Is capable of penetrating through the bounty hunter dirge and his durasteel armor. The DC-15A is a more powerful rifle meant for piercing heavier armor, with a maximum range of 10km. Heavy weapons clones carried rotary blaster cannons, and rocket launchers. Their proton torpedo launchers were capable of destroying, or incapacitating two armored assault tanks without a direct hit in one shot. A paladin blaster rifle used by the senate guard put 3-5 inch deep holes the size of a human head in a marble or stone pillar. Other unit variants included scuba troopers, jet troopers, paratroopers, and scout troopers. Kaminoan clones were grown and raised to be battle ready in ten years. They can be grown at a rate of 4 million per generation. Spaarti clones were made through arkanian, and cranscoc means. Spaarti clones could be grown in a single year, but were significantly inferior to kamino clones as they sometimes suffered from clone madness, and only had flash training(Bad aim). Another deference are the spaarti clone's lack of mandalorian culture. Naval damage: Quad turbolasers dished out 200 megatons(AOTV cross section says 200 gigatons, but treat it as an outlier) per shot, while laser cannons 6 kilotons. Vehicles: The AT-ET is armed with six heavy laser cannon turrets(grenade level), and a mass driver cannon. The RX-200 assault tank's long range ion cannons fried electrical systems, and were highly effective against deflector shields. Five Self propelled heavy artillery ion cannons were capable of downing a core ship. It's artillery shell variant was capable of leveling skyscrapers in a short time frame with multi kiloton ordinance. There were walkers such as the AT-RT, AT-AP, AT-XT, AT-OT, and an older AT-AT model. The HAVw A6 juggernaut was armed with a heavy laser cannon turret, rapid repeating laser cannon, medium anti personnel cannons, twin blaster cannons, and rocket/grenade launchers. Lastly was the TX-130 saber class fighter tank, and AV-7 anti-vehicle cannon. Clone commandos are elite clone troopers specializing in operations behind enemy lines. Their katarn armor can take fire from magnetically accelerated projectile weapons, and comes with deflector shields. Their DC-17m blaster supplements the DC-15S but can be modified as a sniper rifle, or anti-armor rifle. They used a plethora of grenades, the DC-15s side arm blasters, accelerated charged particle weapons, recon droids, shotguns, saber darts, knuckle plated vibro blades, vibro daggers, and more. Though capable of successfully destroying, and sabotaging enemy factories, and strategic targets do not overestimate their abilities. Clone commandos while superior to normal clones are meant for team opts behind enemy lines. This is emphasized during the battle of geonosis, when nearly half of 10,000 commandos were killed on the frontlines. Again when clone commandos with basic gear were sent to reclaim a diplomatic gift, and suffered serious casualties against generic criminals. Advanced recon commandos, or ARCs are elite frontline commandos. Alpha ARCs are a hundred genetically enhanced clones, trained by Jango fett. They are smarter, stronger, more creative and faster than any other clone on the battlefield. A whole squad of clone commandos would think twice before engaging a single alpha ARC. Eventually these alphas trained additional ARCs from the normal clone population. An ARC is on par if not superior to an individual clone commando. ARCs sometimes carry the WESTAR-M5 blaster. This blaster at full power can pierce an AAT's armor, and could attach an under barrel grenade launcher. Heavy gunner ARCs carry rotary blaster cannons, and reciprocating quad blasters, which were capable of destroying seperatist tanks. Blaze troopers wore jet propelled heavy armor(Would need a 60mm round to fully penetrate), and utilized a flamethrower. Not all jedi participated in the war, and their abilities widely varied in scale. A padawan can halt 4 heat seeking missiles, from a hail fire, or repel bullets with a concentrated force ball . A talented jedi knight pushed to the extreme can halt an entire venator star destroyer mid air(Yes it happened). Jedi can leap, and survive falls of over a 100 meters. Their reaction time can be subsonic to hypersonic. Their force enhanced strength can help them toss wampas(Luminara), lift and fight a muscular basilisk(Obi wan), destroy battle droids with their bare hands(Mace windu, Shon Ju, and Jun-Fan), survive being thrown through/at concrete/brick walls, or smash through force pushes with the same strength to lift stone/brick pillars(Anakin as a knight). Basic force abilities include telepathy, mind trick, force barrier, force repulse, limited precognition, force slam, force push, increased strength/durability, and force throw. Projectile weapons are a weakness, but mostly not because they lack the speed to deal with them. Explosive rounds, and shrapnel are the problem, though a skilled enough jedi knight can counter with the force.

@@myduckisonqauck7227 Source: Trust me Bro.

@@nobleman9393 Sources: Revenge of the sith cross section, attack of the clones cross section, essential guide to warfare, and various comics, games, and books. Think next time before you make goofy comments.

@@myduckisonqauck7227 one thing to consider about ships is that it may be counting capital ships, frigates, corvette, Starfighters, cruisers cause sometimes the source material does do that

@@myduckisonqauck7227 God damn bro, just made him look like a fool, nice! He didn't even reply xd

they have massive numbers and a homeworld the size of a death Star. Untimely their warriors superior physically. But they don't have force users. Their ships are more agile and possibly faster too. It would be the 2 largest forces in the Galaxy and they will either be in conflict or share the galaxy in exchange of specific benefits.

@@jhnyjoejoe69 you’d also have to take into consideration the fact that the republic is fighting over control of the entire galaxy while the entirety of the human-covenant war took place in an arm of the galaxy which is just a 5th of its overall mass. Meaning that as far as we know the republic likely has a lot more resources available for its navy. Generally it does seem like pound for pound the covenant has superior technology, so a majority of pure ship-to-ship battles should go covenant

@@noahmedrano222 Mandators would eat a CSO supercarrier for breakfast. It's not like venerators are the pinnacle of Republic technology. On the ground, Republic still wins. Clone troopers could go toe to toe with elites in skill and ability. They'd be at a technological disadvantage, but there's so many more. Like hundreds of millions. Then, the Jedi would be much more powerful and numerous than Spartans. Dark troopers are about equal to Spartans stat wise, and Luke cleared a whole brigade of them himself. With ease. Jedi lead fleets could beat cloaked ships because of their precognitive abilities and ability to sense the minds of the Fleetmasters.

​@@iamblight707clones wouldn't go toe to toe with elites in any single ways.. the strong master level jedi's are different level however a typical jedi knight is in range with Spartan 4s in mjolnir Armor.

​@@iamblight707theres only 6 million clones my guy. They are not out numbering the covenant. Only 10k jedi. They will be rather tough to kill, but it can and will be done. I love the republic, but the Covenant slaps

The republic model was a more in one ship.

I'm pretty sure there's a different between their weaponry/armor/shields/size/engines/tactics/battle doctrine for the Empire and the Coventant starships if there's a battle in space and ground warfare if their are fighting on the planet There's a different between blaster tech vs lasers/plamasa and star wars look like they are specialized in their blaster tech for their shields and armor and questionable weaknesses for their starships design like the bridge and their length and width

If you're going to give the Empire an SSD at _least_ give the covenant a CSO, it's only fair.

The Eclipse can destroy a CSO in one shot.

@@sideburngthepeacebringer27 I doubt this one. The Eclipse is much smaller than the Death Star, most of that station was dedicated to its massive reactor to power the laser. When you have a much smaller reactor, you get a much smaller super laser yield.

Two problems, one the republic small craft likely lack the firepower to do meaningful damage to a covenant cruiser’s shields (which we’ve seen cannot be flown through). And two, the Covenant have a massive range advantage over star wars ships. Space battles in Halo are typically conducted at thousands of kilometers distance, while star wars space battles are typically fought at point blank.

I disagree. The Covenant would be able to fend off most of the fighters especially with the Seraphs, exo Banshees, and badass Phantom Gunboats

@@docartemis2878 Venators are specially made to fight from very far out, that's why they have the extremely strong turbolasers in few numbers. You're right about the strike craft, though I believe Y wings would still be able to do meaningful damage while the venators provide fire support from far out

@@retroneer5824 Star Wars far out is still much closer than typical halo ranges. And while Y-Wings might have the punch to give a black-eye or two, they’ll be having to contend with Seraph fighters, which are some quick and nimble bastards.

@@docartemis2878 A-wings and ARCs are both very strong against fighters, they're extremely manuvereable and pack a punch

Correct.

Maybe not, but an ARC Trooper or a Clone Commando could do it

the covenant at its peak had much more soldiers than the republic did as well as using some pretty big ships but I don't know about the hyperdrive speeds since I always thought it would be similar to slipspace drives

@@Lord_Khornez You do realize that the peak Republic also had millions of member worlds and tens of millions of colonies, protectorates, and client worlds. They would literally have trillions of beings to freely conscript, nevermind that they can clone armies or mass produce droids at insane speeds. The size of the ship means nothing when a lone 700m ship like the Acclamator can completely wreck a planets entire surface. Hyperdrive and Covenat slipstream drives are vastly different. For example at the point in time where the first halo ring was located, covenant ships had a velocity of 912 ly a day. Wich would take a little more than 10 days to cross their own territory and 109 non stop days of travel to cross the galaxy assuming they had the fuel to do so. Star wars hyperdrive speeds are a lot faster. To give you some perspective in Episode iii Palpatine flew from Coruscant in the middle of the galaxy to Mustafar in the outer rim. That was at least 50,000 ly. He made that trip fast enough to save Vader from dying near that lava river. In Episode iv the Millenium Falcon made a journey from Tatooine to Alderan, a similar distance in a few hours. They're literally travelling across a distance in hours that would take Covenant ships 50+ days of non-stop travel to match.

@@marcosrios1246 Quite a few ships in Star Wars or Halo can wreak havoc on a planet's surface, so that's not as much of a milestone as you seem to think. If you have ship-to-ship weaponry that can harm another ship through layers of shields and armor, you can plaster unshielded rock. If you're referring to the oft-quoted 300 gigatons of energy per blast that the Acclamator is purported to be able to muster (which I agree with btw), it's unlikely that any ship in Star Wars can do that casually. They'd have to divert power to the weapons systems to do that, which means taking power from auxiliary systems, from the engines, from shielding; not something you would want to do in a combat situation. The combatants in this scenario are not so far removed in combat capability as you might imagine. I just think that Venator's in this situation are less than ideal; they're battle carriers, not battleships. There are also ships in Halo that can traverse great distances in slipspace at speed, though those are usually Forerunner or reverse-engineered from Forerunner technology.

@@blueleader102 It's firepower figure is for the Acclamator's medium guns, that's not counting all the other guns and warhead launchers. You do realize that the Acclamator is a transport ship and not warship like the Venator, right? The Venator is multi-role warship capable of pumping it's full reactor into it's heavy guns which is somthing like 2 x 10^24w or somthing like that. Which is crazy amount of power. Yes I'm aware of the Forerunner speeds but it's not the Covenant norm. To give you an idea of capabilities look up destruction of Taris Edit: stupid autocorrect

slipspace is instant hyperdrives are slower cov ships have forerunner tech way more advanced as a fan of both republic would lose ps legends is not cannon idc what you say plus both would lose to Warhammer 40k

and hyperspace is a lot faster than jumping

Numbers doesn't mean much in a dogfight if the design is vastly inferior. Not only do Republic starfighters lack missiles and appropriate countermeasures, but they have such huge profiles and low maneuverability that they can't even dodge effectively. Seraph fighters are infinitely more advanced: they have plasma missiles, gimballed turrets, they have the turning radius of a nickel. Hell they can even cloak if they feel like going nose to nose (which never happens irl. Engagements between fighters are dozens, sometimes hundreds of miles apart because of missiles). It would be like clubbing seals.

I say covies slap thier technology is better and they have alot of corvets to fighter screen

@@Aredel Not sure if it matters, but some republic star fighters like the Arc-170 is shielded. It could make a different too. But yes missile and BVR does makes a massive different that i agree.

@@Yayaloy9 it depends on the shield. We’ve seen that shields are pretty ineffective against solid projectiles crashing into them, as shown by the Falcon landing *on* a star destroyer, or that A-wing that crashed into the Invisible Hand and destroyed it. Most likely they’ll end up making a missile that’s designed to impact with the actual ship, or at least detonate so close that the shield can’t protect the vessel.

Galactic Republic navy: 400,000-2,000,000+ warships made from Venator star destroyers(1,137m), Arquitens light cruisers(325m), Acclamator assault ships/Mark II cruisers(752), victory class star destroyers(900m), Consular light assault cruisers(115m), mandators/Mark IIs(8km), and many planetary defense fleets. Clone army: 25,000,000-13 billion Non clone forces: 800,000,000-30 billion Tanks/Repulsor craft/walkers: 12,000,000-670 million Jedi: Around 10,000 Territory: 100,000-1,500,000 worlds/systems Weapons/Armor: The phase I clone trooper armor was more of an environmental suit, which could only take light blaster shots, and shrapnel. It could not even protect against projectile weaponry. The phase II was stronger and more comfortable(If equal, or greater than stormtrooper armor, is strong enough to tank anything under a 20mm). Clone troopers typically carried two thermal detonators, two concussion grenades, and one electromagnetic pulse grenade. The DC-15S was capable of shooting the equivalent of a 14.5mm round of plasma. Is capable of penetrating through the bounty hunter dirge and his durasteel armor. The DC-15A is a more powerful rifle meant for piercing heavier armor, with a maximum range of 10km. Heavy weapons clones carried rotary blaster cannons, and rocket launchers. Their proton torpedo launchers were capable of destroying, or incapacitating two armored assault tanks without a direct hit in one shot. A paladin blaster rifle used by the senate guard put 3-5 inch deep holes the size of a human head in a marble or stone pillar. Other unit variants included scuba troopers, jet troopers, paratroopers, and scout troopers. Kaminoan clones were grown and raised to be battle ready in ten years. They can be grown at a rate of 4 million per generation. Spaarti clones were made through arkanian, and cranscoc means. Spaarti clones could be grown in a single year, but were significantly inferior to kamino clones as they sometimes suffered from clone madness, and only had flash training(Bad aim). Another deference are the spaarti clone's lack of mandalorian culture. Naval damage: Quad turbolasers dished out 200 megatons(AOTV cross section says 200 gigatons, but treat it as an outlier) per shot, while laser cannons 6 kilotons. Vehicles: The AT-ET is armed with six heavy laser cannon turrets(grenade level), and a mass driver cannon. The RX-200 assault tank's long range ion cannons fried electrical systems, and were highly effective against deflector shields. Five Self propelled heavy artillery ion cannons were capable of downing a core ship. It's artillery shell variant was capable of leveling skyscrapers in a short time frame with multi kiloton ordinance. There were walkers such as the AT-RT, AT-AP, AT-XT, AT-OT, and an older AT-AT model. The HAVw A6 juggernaut was armed with a heavy laser cannon turret, rapid repeating laser cannon, medium anti personnel cannons, twin blaster cannons, and rocket/grenade launchers. Lastly was the TX-130 saber class fighter tank, and AV-7 anti-vehicle cannon. Clone commandos are elite clone troopers specializing in operations behind enemy lines. Their katarn armor can take fire from magnetically accelerated projectile weapons, and comes with deflector shields. Their DC-17m blaster supplements the DC-15S but can be modified as a sniper rifle, or anti-armor rifle. They used a plethora of grenades, the DC-15s side arm blasters, accelerated charged particle weapons, recon droids, shotguns, saber darts, knuckle plated vibro blades, vibro daggers, and more. Though capable of successfully destroying, and sabotaging enemy factories, and strategic targets do not overestimate their abilities. Clone commandos while superior to normal clones are meant for team opts behind enemy lines. This is emphasized during the battle of geonosis, when nearly half of 10,000 commandos were killed on the frontlines. Again when clone commandos with basic gear were sent to reclaim a diplomatic gift, and suffered serious casualties against generic criminals. Advanced recon commandos, or ARCs are elite frontline commandos. Alpha ARCs are a hundred genetically enhanced clones, trained by Jango fett. They are smarter, stronger, more creative and faster than any other clone on the battlefield. A whole squad of clone commandos would think twice before engaging a single alpha ARC. Eventually these alphas trained additional ARCs from the normal clone population. An ARC is on par if not superior to an individual clone commando. ARCs sometimes carry the WESTAR-M5 blaster. This blaster at full power can pierce an AAT's armor, and could attach an under barrel grenade launcher. Heavy gunner ARCs carry rotary blaster cannons, and reciprocating quad blasters, which were capable of destroying seperatist tanks. Blaze troopers wore jet propelled heavy armor(Would need a 60mm round to fully penetrate), and utilized a flamethrower. Not all jedi participated in the war, and their abilities widely varied in scale. A padawan can halt 4 heat seeking missiles, from a hail fire, or repel bullets with a concentrated force ball . A talented jedi knight pushed to the extreme can halt an entire venator star destroyer mid air(Yes it happened). Jedi can leap, and survive falls of over a 100 meters. Their reaction time can be subsonic to hypersonic. Their force enhanced strength can help them toss wampas(Luminara), lift and fight a muscular basilisk(Obi wan), destroy battle droids with their bare hands(Mace windu, Shon Ju, and Jun-Fan), survive being thrown through/at concrete/brick walls, or smash through force pushes with the same strength to lift stone/brick pillars(Anakin as a knight). Basic force abilities include telepathy, mind trick, force barrier, force repulse, limited precognition, force slam, force push, increased strength/durability, and force throw. Projectile weapons are a weakness, but mostly not because they lack the speed to deal with them. Explosive rounds, and shrapnel are the problem, though a skilled enough jedi knight can counter with the force.

Imperial navy: 25,000 imperial 1 star destroyers, 1.5-40 million smaller warships(based off sector groups), 50+dreadnoughts(around 26 of which are executer classes), a sovereign class(continent/small moon busting laser), two eclipses(continent/small moon), over 263,000(Specter of the past) other star destroyers/similar sized ships, sun crusher(star buster, that tanked a death stat laser), 2 death stars, an extra death star prototype with a functional laser, 2 death star sized habitation spheres, a galaxy gun(snipe planets and ships from across the galaxy), metal crystal phase shifters(bypass shields to weaken hull integrity), the tarken,(planet buster), the conqueror(continent/small moon cracking super laser) and dozens of world devastators(can rip apart planets with tractor beam projectors, while tanking shots from capital ships. Can collect materials to upgrade/grow, and even create new world devastators). There was a plan to include super class star destroyers(8km) in many of the empires sectors. That is potentially 100s. There was also the assertor class(15km), bellator(7km), and mandator III(12km). Imperial army: 10s of trillions(Rebellion era campaign guide) Stormtrooper corps: 100s of millions-billions CompForce: 100s of billions(2nd edition sourcebook) Tanks/repulsorcraft: 2-9 Trillion Walkers: 10s of millions Territory: over a million, and a half full member worlds(rebellion era campaign guide,and 2nd edition source book) , and 5-70+ million colonies(Essential atlas), vessels, and protectorates. Han solo stated to Luke they would have to search six million inhabited systems, and an old republic comic stated the holonet connected six million worlds. Weapon damage: Turbolasers dish out megatons of superheated plasma, while laser cannons in the kilotons. The attack of the clones cross section states 200 gigatons a shot, and 6 megatons a shot but we treat it as an outlier. Contrary to popular belief star wars shields do protect against projectiles/high velocity attacks. A super star destroyer's shields have tanked rebel cruisers jumping out of hyperspeed, and multi megaton hits from asteroids in an asteroid field. Deflector shields can produce ray shields(Physical/High velocity projectile weapons), and particle shields(energy based weapons). Both the 2nd edition sourcebook, and cross section tell us star destroyers are capable of turning the upper crust of planets into slag which we can believe. Carnor jax states an imperial star destroyer can make stone run like water, and turn sand into glass. Going by the bombardment of caamas, it takes several star destroyers to reduce a planet's surface twice the size of earth to molten slag in under twenty four hours. The E-11 is the equivalent of a 14.5mm round with enough heat to punch through a lightly armored or unarmored opponent, and in a new hope it vaporizes steel bars. The DLT-19 was capable of taking down lightly armored vehicles. The T-21 light repeating blaster fires the plasma bolt equivalent of a 22.5-30mm bullet from a guass rifle. Mercenaries using light blaster cannons shot through 4 inches of plasteel. T-21

God what is this comment section come to?

The Empire is far stronger than the Republic.

No

So a modified space noob combo?

@lancemagbanua5712 yeah pretty much. Though I'm not sure if Republic weapons would do the hole plasma pistol trick.

I strongly disagree. The Republic, and Star Wars as a whole, utilizes WW2 tactics and designs. They don't employ missiles in any large capacity, most of their weapons are manually aimed rather than programmed, and so god damned much of their vital components are exposed to the point it's become a meme across the community. All the Covenant has to do is sit back out of range and lob plasma torpedoes until the fight is over.

Reason why the UNSC and the Covenant don't bother with fighters attack large ships very often is both sides actually have GOOD point defense. The UNSC uses small gauge coil guns and the covenant uses lasers. And both are accurate enough to lock and shoot down missiles. SW fighters hoping to get close and fight like it's WW2 are going to get shredded.

The Covenant has in fighting though and the Republic had Jedi

@@gmailquinn the in fighting was religious based not military.

The CIS would be cool too

I strongly disagree. The problem with Star Wars ship combat is that it's based off of naval combat in WW2. Ships rely mostly on cannons and get super close, and fighters almost exclusively rely on fixed guns rather than missiles. Covenant ships are designed based on modern naval warfare, IE: "Shoot a bajillion missiles at the target from halfway across the ocean and see who comes out on top." Republic ships simply don't have the range nor the point defense systems to face off against a barrage of plasma torpedoes.

@@Aredel i have to say this is false. yes, star wars uses ww2 as a base. that doesnt make it any less powerful. Navy: 20,160 capital ships, and 105,000-2,800,000(essential guide to warfare states the rebellion had 7% of the empire's naval might at the height of the civil war)support vessels, made up of Nebulon-b frigates(300 meters), Mc80 liberty class cruisers(1200-1500 meters), Mc80 home one class cruisers(1200-1400 meters), MK I assault frigates(700 meters), MK II assault frigates(700 meters), dreadnaught class heavy cruisers(600 meters), Corellian corvettes(150 meters), DP20 frigates(120 meters), Marauder class corvettes(195 meters), YKL-37R nova courier(30 meters), various freighters, captured/stolen imperial ships including star destroyers, salvaged clone wars era ships like providence class destroyers, and lucrehulk battleships. Territory: 7,000-over a million bases across the empire(Star wars source book) Armed forces: 12,000,000 Overall Personnel: 100s of millions to a few billion(EGTW states 3.5% of the empire's military) Tanks/repulsor craft/walkers: 176,470+ Weapon damage: Turbolasers dish out megatons of energy, while laser cannons in the kilotons. Deflector shields can produce ray shields(Physical/High velocity projectile weapons), and particle shields(energy based weapons). The T-21 light repeating blaster fires the plasma bolt equivalent of a 22.5-30mm bullet from a gauss rifle. Mercenaries using light blaster cannons shot through 4 inches of plasteel. T-21

Elites would shred commandos in a straight up fight thats not what commandos are meant for a more fair fight would be ARC troopers vs elites and even then it would be pretty one sided due to the covenants plasma weaponry clones armor may give them 1 survivable hit but even of it don't kill them they would be incapacitated most definitely

@@gregoryrose13 Commandos > Arc troopers lol

@Doughnutscream in a straight up Frontline scenario Commandos get slaughtered deployed quietly behind enemy lines and they will wreak havoc sorry but facts are facts ARC's are what commandos wished they were they were simply bred to be better and got the best training and equipment

Covenant ships are much more powerful than star wars, they are on the level of warhammer 40k ships, and in infantry battles star wars is outclassed. The clones will put up a fight, but without UNSC plot armor, they need the jedi to carry. Their starfighters are where star are undisputed, they are far better than anything the covanent has

All it takes is one ship captured. Once the Republic starts unlocking covenant tech, the fleet will begin to operate on par. The covenant are so restricted by their religious beliefs that eventually the republic will be superior, even. And while the covenant burns any planet they conquer, the republic captures planets and uses their infrastructure to boost their already mighty production capabilities. Not to mention, I think the republic has many more planets under its control than the covenant ever did anyway.

@@phil3751 Galactic Republic navy: 400,000-2,000,000+ warships made from Venator star destroyers(1,137m), Arquitens light cruisers(325m), Acclamator assault ships/Mark II cruisers(752), victory class star destroyers(900m), Consular light assault cruisers(115m), mandators/Mark IIs(8km), and many planetary defense fleets. Clone army: 25,000,000-13 billion Non clone forces: 800,000,000-30 billion Tanks/Repulsor craft/walkers: 12,000,000-670 million Jedi: Around 10,000 Territory: 100,000-1,500,000 worlds/systems Weapons/Armor: The phase I clone trooper armor was more of an environmental suit, which could only take light blaster shots, and shrapnel. It could not even protect against projectile weaponry. The phase II was stronger and more comfortable(If equal, or greater than stormtrooper armor, is strong enough to tank anything under a 20mm). Clone troopers typically carried two thermal detonators, two concussion grenades, and one electromagnetic pulse grenade. The DC-15S was capable of shooting the equivalent of a 14.5mm round of plasma. Is capable of penetrating through the bounty hunter dirge and his durasteel armor. The DC-15A is a more powerful rifle meant for piercing heavier armor, with a maximum range of 10km. Heavy weapons clones carried rotary blaster cannons, and rocket launchers. Their proton torpedo launchers were capable of destroying, or incapacitating two armored assault tanks without a direct hit in one shot. A paladin blaster rifle used by the senate guard put 3-5 inch deep holes the size of a human head in a marble or stone pillar. Other unit variants included scuba troopers, jet troopers, paratroopers, and scout troopers. Kaminoan clones were grown and raised to be battle ready in ten years. They can be grown at a rate of 4 million per generation. Spaarti clones were made through arkanian, and cranscoc means. Spaarti clones could be grown in a single year, but were significantly inferior to kamino clones as they sometimes suffered from clone madness, and only had flash training(Bad aim). Another deference are the spaarti clone's lack of mandalorian culture. Naval damage: Quad turbolasers dished out 200 megatons(AOTV cross section says 200 gigatons, but treat it as an outlier) per shot, while laser cannons 6 kilotons. Vehicles: The AT-ET is armed with six heavy laser cannon turrets(grenade level), and a mass driver cannon. The RX-200 assault tank's long range ion cannons fried electrical systems, and were highly effective against deflector shields. Five Self propelled heavy artillery ion cannons were capable of downing a core ship. It's artillery shell variant was capable of leveling skyscrapers in a short time frame with multi kiloton ordinance. There were walkers such as the AT-RT, AT-AP, AT-XT, AT-OT, and an older AT-AT model. The HAVw A6 juggernaut was armed with a heavy laser cannon turret, rapid repeating laser cannon, medium anti personnel cannons, twin blaster cannons, and rocket/grenade launchers. Lastly was the TX-130 saber class fighter tank, and AV-7 anti-vehicle cannon. Clone commandos are elite clone troopers specializing in operations behind enemy lines. Their katarn armor can take fire from magnetically accelerated projectile weapons, and comes with deflector shields. Their DC-17m blaster supplements the DC-15S but can be modified as a sniper rifle, or anti-armor rifle. They used a plethora of grenades, the DC-15s side arm blasters, accelerated charged particle weapons, recon droids, shotguns, saber darts, knuckle plated vibro blades, vibro daggers, and more. Though capable of successfully destroying, and sabotaging enemy factories, and strategic targets do not overestimate their abilities. Clone commandos while superior to normal clones are meant for team opts behind enemy lines. This is emphasized during the battle of geonosis, when nearly half of 10,000 commandos were killed on the frontlines. Again when clone commandos with basic gear were sent to reclaim a diplomatic gift, and suffered serious casualties against generic criminals. Advanced recon commandos, or ARCs are elite frontline commandos. Alpha ARCs are a hundred genetically enhanced clones, trained by Jango fett. They are smarter, stronger, more creative and faster than any other clone on the battlefield. A whole squad of clone commandos would think twice before engaging a single alpha ARC. Eventually these alphas trained additional ARCs from the normal clone population. An ARC is on par if not superior to an individual clone commando. ARCs sometimes carry the WESTAR-M5 blaster. This blaster at full power can pierce an AAT's armor, and could attach an under barrel grenade launcher. Heavy gunner ARCs carry rotary blaster cannons, and reciprocating quad blasters, which were capable of destroying seperatist tanks. Blaze troopers wore jet propelled heavy armor(Would need a 60mm round to fully penetrate), and utilized a flamethrower. Not all jedi participated in the war, and their abilities widely varied in scale. A padawan can halt 4 heat seeking missiles, from a hail fire, or repel bullets with a concentrated force ball . A talented jedi knight pushed to the extreme can halt an entire venator star destroyer mid air(Yes it happened). Jedi can leap, and survive falls of over a 100 meters. Their reaction time can be subsonic to hypersonic. Their force enhanced strength can help them toss wampas(Luminara), lift and fight a muscular basilisk(Obi wan), destroy battle droids with their bare hands(Mace windu, Shon Ju, and Jun-Fan), survive being thrown through/at concrete/brick walls, or smash through force pushes with the same strength to lift stone/brick pillars(Anakin as a knight). Basic force abilities include telepathy, mind trick, force barrier, force repulse, limited precognition, force slam, force push, increased strength/durability, and force throw. Projectile weapons are a weakness, but mostly not because they lack the speed to deal with them. Explosive rounds, and shrapnel are the problem, though a skilled enough jedi knight can counter with the force.

@@myduckisonqauck7227 Can you just compare the firepower of each?

@@senatorstevenarmstrong6703 Navy, or land wise?