The RUTHLESS TRUTH Bonafide First Pedal Drive Kayak P127
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@robbiejohnson3698 2 жыл бұрын
I caught 42 trout in three days on slam shady 2.0 Salt Strong the best club learn a lot in my kayak
@FISH4KAYAK 15 күн бұрын
We have just started to sell this kayak. When I saw it I felt in love. Front side is like a cocodrile and it has a very muscle hull. Love it.
@chandlercole5156 2 жыл бұрын
To me it just doesn't seem like this kayak is worth $3000+. I feel like it should be around the price of a Sportsman 120PDL or Salty 120PDL ($2200-$2400). Seem like a lot of needless features as well as a lot of things that they compromised on.
@coreyjohansen9823 2 жыл бұрын
Agree if i was spending over 3k it would be on a hobie
@damonwarren8070 2 жыл бұрын
Hobbies are 5 grand
@coreyjohansen9823 2 жыл бұрын
@@damonwarren8070 yeah 3000+ meaning greater that 3k
@joecavanaugh4740 2 жыл бұрын
Especially if you look at a dorado from feelfree or equivalent … that is a lot of wiring and mounting left up to you to do for 3k
@rainbosprinkles6548 2 жыл бұрын
@@damonwarren8070 a hobie Outback can be had for just over 3k.
@adamgross7172 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Slayer peddal drive. How does it paddle and pedal when it come to speed? Been looking at Bonified for a few years and now really interested now that it has same drive as the slayer.
@patwhaley1663 2 жыл бұрын
Alex, do you know if the native sidekick system will fit on this kayak?
@raptor-fw6zn 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Enough info on what is not liked to give me confidence that it is an honest review and also coming from someone with lots of Kayak experience. A new buyer is more than likely going to like what they got but having no point of reference really cannot say if they got value for their money. The review had me sold on this being a great Kayak and I always desired a Bonafide paddle kayak but then decided that a pedal was going to be a better choice. For me the cost is just too much for me. I still work a lot so not sure how much use it will get even though I live where it is warm for most of the year. I have no doubt that it would be a great choice but not sure that it being so much more than the old town at the same length gives you that much better of a kayak. I suppose having a chance to use both would tell the tale. So videos like this is my way of determining which Kayak best suits my needs and my wallet. Thanks and keep it up. This site is one of the ones that has reviews that I trust.
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
i would say try to demo if you can, i bet you have a friend that has a friend that has one of these boats or maybe a dealer, it is a difficult decision, choosing to buy something without actually testing it.
@tate68321 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel‘s honesty. Chad Hoover flat out tells it how it is. And Alex I love your videos always informative
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@423Bass 2 жыл бұрын
Can you store rods inside like the bonafide ss127.
@MrJoehundy 2 жыл бұрын
love the review lots of great info
@skiplovestofish6992 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome walk through. Old Town has a good paddle placement on the side. But all and all I thought that was a very fair assessment of the kayak.
@Funkyluv 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video very informative about the kayak I'm in the market for a great kayak.
@charlesab 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, well done guys.
@brandonmills6815 Жыл бұрын
Just bought one of these 2 days ago for tournament fishing already had a ss127 my only gripe so far about the p127 is I liked the small like 4” tracks right behind the bow hatch on the ss was perfect place for my helix 7 I understand that’s where the pedal drive goes on this so they aren’t there but now I feel very limited to location of it on the p127 where my legs or pedals don’t hit the finder
@Chris-zm7wh 2 жыл бұрын
Will be hard to sell this next to any native especially a slayer 12.5 and for 3k I should have to do anything to my seat like making sure it’s aligned.. p127 v2 will be the boat to buy if bonafide is paying attention
@justynolson6072 4 ай бұрын
What’s the stability like compared to the native slayer 12.5 max? Seems almost like the same boat with less features.
@noellaboy7980 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome , informative video. I like the fact that it is also a good paddling boat. Gracias Aliex
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very nice kayak for sure like I want one for me lol
@Flionhearted456 2 жыл бұрын
Old Town lover here, that was a great review. 👍
@willifufu2979 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative thank u man
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you willi
@johnpuckett899 2 жыл бұрын
I like Chan and I'm a fan of what he does with that being said I'm glad he told us all of it the good the bad of what he didn't like what happened tell Chad to keep up the good work
@tinasdude 2 жыл бұрын
Chad referenced a motor mount from Tray Leach that put the motor a little more rearward. Was that a Torqeedo mount or a universal trolling motor mount? Great review!!!
@davidmeeks2405 2 жыл бұрын
Have recently started watching both of you on Utube, not really a fan of social media. U are both great and seem to have a blast together with David and the family in Auburndale. And yeah I'm back here temporarily where I grew up. Have just been recreational kayaking for years and several months ago purchased a Native Titan 12 from David. Trying to finish my trailer now but I'm not a fisherman. Just like to fish, and hunt and camp, and everything else outdoors. So I'm building more of a War Wagon. Hunting, Fishing, Camping, small invasion. I'm just headed to the woods. Wish me luck and guys, keep up the great work. Stay safe
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
would love to see that trailer when it is done! i dont like to fish either i just love catching 😝
@dewayne4986wilson 2 жыл бұрын
This is funny. Chad is around my size and his video got me interested in bonafide kayak. Then you flipping bonafide kayak, or the lack of flipping a bonafide . Sold me on bonafide
@TheMass33 2 жыл бұрын
Idk anything about Bass or Freshwater fishing. I'm a Mangrove kinda guy. But this guy Chad is on the money. Great review.
@Sanctified_EDC_Gear 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aliex & Chad. Great Content as Always. Chad's breakdown was Spot On with the Bonafide P127. And Thank You Chad with the Motor Comment, I've had several Spinal Surgeries / Spinal Fusions and I love my Native Slayer Max's Pedal drive but on longer runs i need the Bow Mount motor and Stern Mount Motor. I'd be in serious trouble and or my days on the water would be much shorter, so a Motor setup for myself is a very big Deal. And Aliex, Thank you again, just ordered my Amped Outdoors battery and used your Aliex5 Promo code and it helped out significantly, so a Big Thank You. So a Big Thanks too both of you Aliex & Chad Hoover. 😎🙏👍
@gerardhebert9207 2 жыл бұрын
is bonafide coming out with a 107pdl???
@letsgetdangerous2785 2 жыл бұрын
Think the front storage opening back instead of forward looks like it would get in the way on the water. But maybe it is fine will look for some on water videos.
@MysticalDragon73 Жыл бұрын
it opens BOTH ways. sadly they didnt show it. TBH this is an AWEOSME feature of the bonafides. Ive got an ss127 and love that aspect over my jackson big rig.
@rainbosprinkles6548 2 жыл бұрын
This boat is at my local shop, Fishing Tackle Unlimited. I really like it. I am in debate between the Hobie Outback and this. I like saving about a grand on this boat, but I think the Hobie is better for shallow inshore fishing.
@vinh1360 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re doing shallow water I’d probably go with the Hobie. I bought a 2018 used camo edition for a really good deal and fish a lot of shallow marshes where it handles well.
@matthewcolbert4479 2 жыл бұрын
I’m on my third Hobie and wouldn’t even consider something like this. You would be better off getting a used hobie than a new version of this for a similar price. You can get a used pro angler 14 (pre 360 drive) for this price. It seems these companies add a bunch of cheesy add-ons that look cool in concept but don’t seem to have longevity.
@killough71010 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I was very underwhelmed be the bonafide p127 performance. I'd go with the outback, Or a old town bigwater 132.. the big water is and impressive performer.
@smileycamel5635 2 жыл бұрын
Great walk thru by Chad Hoover.
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
That's right
@claytonvernon8793 8 ай бұрын
fantastic video
@jeffcarr2265 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@Booker60510 2 жыл бұрын
Old town sportsman 120pdl vs p127 ?
@Eric-gi9kg Жыл бұрын
I bought my ss127 a few years ago for $1500. I always thought it would be great to have a pedal version.. but I'm not about to buy a $1500 pedal drive system. Nor would I give up the adjustable seat (hi/low).
@twitcherz_fishing Жыл бұрын
Nothing more honest then Chad Hoover doing a kayak review
@AliexFolgueira Жыл бұрын
And i had to edit it a bit, ruthless haha 😂 maybe not safe for yt haha
@micahspilker9322 2 жыл бұрын
At the end Chad said 127 inches…that would be 10ft 7”. Boat is sweet, I’m always happy to see more options on the market.
@raptor-fw6zn 2 жыл бұрын
site says 12 foot 7 inches
@micahspilker9322 2 жыл бұрын
raptor5618 it’s 12’7”
@dougiemac8417 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa Aliex!!! A kayak review awesome!!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
This is a kayak we have been waiting for for years and chad knows his stuff 😃
@RyanRed13 2 жыл бұрын
Well done guys!
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
thanks Ryan
@CrazyCranker 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the track location seem to be an after thought? I'd probably just install an H-rail on there anyway. Nice yak just the same. :)
@billhobson6637 2 жыл бұрын
I have thought about getting one and adding a front mount Motorguide XI3 with the GPS option and skip the PowerPole Micro altogether. I’m only 160lbs and I can put my battery anywhere. Any issues with this plan?
@Golfhippy10 2 жыл бұрын
Chad is such a natural it makes me sick lol.... just so polished and easy going on camera. One of many reasons for his success
@basshunterusa2119 2 жыл бұрын
How is the stability compared to a Pro Angler?
@dewayne4986wilson 2 жыл бұрын
Never flipped my bonafide.. bought a hobie pa12 flipped it first day.
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
Pro anglers flip easy
@kwd1253 2 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueira still waiting video of flipping the p127. Don’t say you are waiting water warm up, you are aliex you fear no water 😂
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwd1253 lol don't know when it will happen.
@DetroitFishigan Ай бұрын
Chad, take over!
@usmcgodfather3546 Жыл бұрын
You just saved me from wasting money gonna stick with my 107
@build.drive.fish. 2 жыл бұрын
I dig it....I still love my PDL but it's a super dope Yak for sure. Always loved Bonafide kayaks and glad there is a pedal drive finally.
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@doughodson5939 Жыл бұрын
I'll keep my Native Slayer max.
@robbiejohnson3698 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Aliex I sold the old town big water 132 this kayak that flipped last Friday I talked to David Iam buying the camo p127 picking the kayak up Saturday I told David that I saw this video hope you make a dollar
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!!! Thanks bro I don't think you will flip now but hey you never know any kayak can flip but the p127 is far more stable than the predator/bigwater
@robbiejohnson3698 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are I have had SS127 it was not a good paddle boat I know it is stable thanks for all the videos
@kwd1253 2 жыл бұрын
So what is the wait period for the p127?
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
They had a few over there
@matthewgonzalez5019 2 жыл бұрын
The best part of the damn video was hobie mafia🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆 keeping it real
@matthewgonzalez5019 2 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueirahey that guy is funny I think if I was there he would’ve sold me a kayak,Appreciate all the video Aliex I’m learning a lot to make a decision on my next one
@BassManStrikes 2 жыл бұрын
Does it ride drier than the slayer max with the scuppers out? The slayer max fills with water. It's pretty shocking the first time you pull them how much water spews in 😀🤣😂
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
i wanna test all that
@neglectedbbq4605 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like Bonafide kayaks are all You Tube hype !!! I spent $1500 on the SS107 and the fit and finish is trash !!! All the pads on the deck are crooked and more then half the screws heads are stripped foot pedals barely slide e-mail them and don’t even respond
@aggietommyjones 2 жыл бұрын
I’d stick with Old Town or Hobie until the second iteration of this comes out. All the reviews I’ve seen have been exactly the same. “It’s a great kayak… BUT” hopefully all the kinks get worked out in a year or two. Also the price? Cmon now.
@ryanscube4091 2 жыл бұрын
HI Aliex & Chad :)
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
Boom
@UWPcustombaits 2 жыл бұрын
sorry but I liked Bonafide more pre merger, just see to much of Native coming through, I still Like my ss127 its a great boat but I am looking into other options.
@MysticalDragon73 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Id not heard of the merger till now. I'll have to look into it now. I also have a native manta ray 12 that was good. I like alot of the bonafide engineering and thoughtfulness. The only thing i hate with the ss127 of mine is the seat. I am a 46" waist so the seat hurts me.
@UWPcustombaits Жыл бұрын
@@MysticalDragon73 I understand, having a comfortable seat is priority in a kayak. I have been following Bonafide a few years now when questioned about pedal drives they said they are a paddle company and had no intentions on releasing a peddle drive and was going to focus on paddlers, well fast forward to the merger and that went out the window quick. Not bashing their quality I still think they make a solid kayak I enjoy mine.
@MysticalDragon73 Жыл бұрын
@@UWPcustombaits I like mine too but got a Jackson big rig a few days later. It handled better with being able to haul more equipment so I've not used my bonafide as much. I nearly sold it. However I like so many things and how stable it is
@sailfishoneday2145 2 жыл бұрын
So u want me to spent 3k plus on this kayak and need to do a bunch of modifications to the seat so it stops making noise , so it won't slide crooked , drill into it and put a screw and rubber washer ....pshhhhhh . Good thing they wasted r and d into putting the useless mount in the bow
@yakcatdrifter6820 2 жыл бұрын
Not worth price my ss127 cost =1600 Xi3 kayak motor =1200 in the battery of your choice and you’ve got a better set up in my opinion not happy because they designed a different kayak just to put the pedal drive system if they were smart they should’ve just kept existing 127 and made Drive system for it but they want my money 💰 and that’s what makes me not happy about them right now greedy bonafide shame shame
@christophermuniz1544 2 жыл бұрын
Nail on the head, but this is a good tournament starter boat.
@yakcatdrifter6820 2 жыл бұрын
@@christophermuniz1544 bonafide ss127 is a amazing kayak and yes yes yes only upgrade after that would be a Hobie PA 360
@gatorade2366 2 жыл бұрын
Will bonafide ever make a boat for the ocean?
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
i dont think there is a demand for it
@trent3723 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the seat is garbage
@robbiejohnson3698 2 жыл бұрын
I bought that kayak Chad touch that kayak I will catch more fish lol
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
Hey you gonna catch more fish because I touched it not Chad 😜
@mrpush2855 2 жыл бұрын
Humm....$3k....no forward rod holders, bad seat adjustment etc. I don't think it worth the money.
@A2discgolfdude 2 жыл бұрын
Tell Old Town that every kayak seat can be slanted sideways on accident... I'll take my topwater over this thing any day of the week
@A2discgolfdude 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Old Town found figure it out a good way of keeping the paddle handy and outside the kayak while you're using it... Just saying
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
those old town paddle holders are nice
@A2discgolfdude 2 жыл бұрын
@@AliexFolgueira Right!
@Gonzo1968 2 жыл бұрын
Solid kayak but overpriced..
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
Explain
@Gonzo1968 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of nice kayaks with similar features for considerably less money. Simple as that..
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonzo1968 such as?
@wegottafishdude 2 жыл бұрын
All I heard was bow and stern why is he so stern with you and make a new bow I don’t get it lol
@JS-xs5hq 2 жыл бұрын
Don't tells what we want or need. We most definitely want a kayak seat that folds back. Deal breaker!
@AliexFolgueira 2 жыл бұрын
You need to relax
@MysticalDragon73 Жыл бұрын
Who has a kayak seat that folds back?
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