Honestly am hoping for a return to the victis crew

Yeah

I see their games going so down,and they bring them back as an element of surprise.. just like Rebirth Island

Isn’t that so strange, imagine saying that in the days after Bo3 came out 😭 characters we were so annoyed with upon first introduction. Now beloved characters missed by the fan base 😭😭😭

Highly doubt it they are definitely dead of old age or dead by the creatures.we also know they could mutate.and with the fact we know the timeline from vanguard to mw3 and no em then go victis then they are gone as well they serve no purpose in the story at all they have no connection with Sam nor eddie

I thought that's how the forsaken looked like when cw came out 😂

Could even be a new set of villans but I'd be happy to have victus again.

I thought it was just much much slower than "earth" time. Sam was there for a few years and it was like 600 years or something for her, right?...

Dude don't be like that. Try to be positive about Everything

@@aethericgaming3747 ❤️❤️❤️ Sorry bro! Hopefully it can bring back all the great times.

@@singh853_5 sadly we peak at Bo3 we can hope. But we expect to much from them

@@aethericgaming3747 That is true I agree with you bro! But never lose hope, you know?!!! I didn’t mind Cold War play style with was fun. I hope this one is much better though. Preferably like BO1-BO3. Let’s see what Treyarch brings to the table this time now that Xdefiant is out and in competition with COD.

@@singh853_5 I saw that Xdefiant came out not really interested in a free game that going have more microtranaction

The issue is they are not relevant to this story to really be needed.not just that by the time logic they would be dead/old and then by the time we get to mw they would be so old well the only 2 remaining ones

@@JulioHernandez-vi9to It could be very relevant to the story since Eddie is trying to do Projet Janus and we know he lost his son Samuel in the Dark Aether and having a bunny to protect himself. It is possible that Eddie wants to retrieve back his family but that goes to failure and accidently release Victis crew including Samuel Stuhlinger instead of his son. And Victis dream is to live in a world without zombies. Time and Space isn't the same in dark aether, it's like quantum physics. It could be years in Real World and in Dark Aether it is just days.

@@dimox115x9 the issue is they just aren’t relevant as they hve never met Eddie .And not just that victis has been stuck in there for 40 years(400 years) by how Russman and Stu would be dead of old age as they were in there 60’s in bo4,by the time we get to gulf war marlton and Misty should be 70 and by the time we get to mw they would 80+ that would mean 800 years they just don’t work.we also learned by the lore Cold War stars it works as in 40 earth years so each decade is 100 years and that’s stated so it’s been some time.

Your forgetting that the dark aether manipulates people's blood like ot did to Samantha and zykov so it could've manipulated them in some way to allow them to live long enough to come back in bo6 in a possible zc2

@@dylanculpepper7080 keep in mind that we already know what happens after bo6 so to not hear about victis in mw3 is a sign that they won’t be coming as they are useless to the story

you one of those yters huh?

We did in the cutscene for alpha.but the reason we really didn’t get it is due to the fact it wouldn’t make sense.the Great War takes place while we’re in origins.The battle also takes place between monty and shadow man.Us fighting would really accomplish nothing since the cycle would still exist.monty only sends us to the begining/end of the cycle with is origins.So eve. If we fought and won the cycle would still exist because the crew exist.And if we fought in the war then bo4 events would never happens the story would be an endless loop with no real diversion or moving forward .A lot of people seem to no understand that it would’ve been just pointless

There should don’t exist they were bound to the cycle .The reason it existed was because the crew existed .if their souls existed the cycle would return.So their souls don’t exist at all

No there are more powerful beings above him that have been I t he dark aether since the dawn of its existence

​​@@JulioHernandez-vi9to but he can literally wipe someone's existence in a snap of a finger I think him getting sent back weakened him so that's he started relying more on science to help with this disadvantage while in the dark aether

Bo4 - meh , Cold War - almost as good as bo3 but not quite , Vanguard - dumpster fire

Bo4 is probably the better of the 3,Cold War is only good if you’re a noob or can’t survive as the game is scaled down from difficulty .The we are so sacked down there is no fun in it.vanguard we don’t talk about it .bo4 Forsure is definitely better but if you play mp cw mp is really good

I personally loved BO4 ... Lotta people didn't for one reason or another ... But some of my Favorite maps are on it ( Dead of the Night , Ancient Evil , and blood of the dead ) the amount of secrets each map possessed still kinda blows my mind today.

B04 was a pretty bad game but the maps were so much better than CW and vanguard. Cold War zombies was extremely mid for me because they got rid of four characters and replaced them with lifeless multiplayer operators, vanguard is the worst we’ve seen.

@@dev___. bo4 was solid if it had bo3’s movement and activison. Did t rush then I’d would’ve been hands down better jam bo3.but been now I prefer to play bo4 over bo3 and one a entered player from waw

Different storyline so cw is in its own time

No diddy

I mean we saw shadowman die as he was inside the summing key when it was destroyed

Zikov is the forsaken, he said it himself.

We literally see the identity of the forsaken in the last map of Cold War Zombies. It’s that Russian dude that was trapped in the dark Aether for a long time. We found radios of him from all the map.

It’s 138 billion not 1.38 trillion

@@wallposter7344 thanks for correcting me. Math was never my subject

I feel like it’s more likely that upon the destruction of the summoning key the Shadow Man was immediately transported back to the Dark Aether, after enough time Dr. Monty started to become corrupted by the Dark Aether just as The Shadow Man was, and then they just remerged back into one being, becoming an Elder God once more. My original theory that this new one is based on is that Dr. Monty and The Shadow Man are sort of a Kami and Piccolo sort of situation. Dr. Monty may have realized he was slowly starting to become corrupted by the Dark Aether from even just the very little exposure to it, that exposure coming from the Experimentations the Keepers were doing with it, maybe even the Summoning key itself could’ve had some level of effect on him, after all, it has to have some connection to the dark Aether if it’s a device that allows one to just hop from one dimension to another. This would push Monty to try and forcefully remove that corrupted aspect of himself, this is why Monty’s powers don’t seem to have that much of an effect on him. Monty’s powers allow him to affect stuff around him, but not really himself, and if The Shadow Man is just a corrupted version of himself, that would explain why his powers wouldn’t work on him. This would also give credence to his name, the Shadow Man, the Shadow of a powerful being. The Shadow of Dr. Monty.

No clones

@@loganmiller4919 I like your theory better sounds more realistic

@@ThexVaultxTech fair

I highly doubt it with how long time has passed.they were already trapped in there for 40 years which is 400 years by the time we get to gulf war they would be in there 50 years in which Russ and Stu are pretty much dead Misty and marlton would be 70 and by the time we get it mw3 they would be about 100 so yeah they aren’t coming back at all and are most likely dead

Richtofen is only alive because he escaped with Sam in the Tag Der Toten outro though, doesn't really hold up for the others

@@golem778 yes, let's just wait and see what bo6 has in store for us

Not really richtofen himself is dead Eddie was purified and seperated by Monty so he isn’t the same nor has he ever been involved with 935. But bo3/no4 answer why Eddie is alive and that’s due to Monty removing the connections he had to richtofen if they were still connected he would’ve been wiped from existence as well