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More like n4z1 and the alexandria,hilltop and kingdom are the Soviet union

He means Soviet Union as in they had numbers

They are not equal how even this can be possible more like negan version of fasci*m

theyre like the only community that uses something similar to curency

Well actually 2 but even then it took a lot before Mary actually stopped trusting Alpha

I mean that’s true but that was due to influences from the outside. It’s the Rick effect after all. If Simon and Dwight saw strong leadership with no compromise then they would have dared. Negan became a bit soft when it came to guys like Carl, despite saying he would cave his head in.

@@justinh9674 it was 3 of them actually. Alpha’s daughter, the one guy that alpha sliced his neck and Mary. I think there might even be another but idk

Saviours also has More members because they control the dead

The issue their I'd the majority of whisperers hated alpha but stayed out of fear

I mean he took it from Oceanside that’s basically it

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@@GulpGulp.the.Kitten what are you talking about?

@@noahguerra1424 he took the Sanctuary from them?

If it wasn't for Eugene, saviors would've died already

eugene > rick

​@@editorgaming6809 Bro rick season 5 would wipe out entire twd

@@Quzema How..?? Lol

@@Boltedits007 That's not truee

And remember, the Whisperers lost to 2 or 3 communities at their lowest point with no weapons, vehicles, or Rick Grimes, while the Saviors lost to 4 communities at their prime with many weapons, vehicles, help from a spy (Dwight), and Rick Grimes.

​@@michaelmyers0003 I think you are absolutely right but one thing we gotta understand is the whisperers showed up years later after saviors were defeated when all the ammo was basically used up. I think if the whisperers fought season 7 saviors they would have been stomped but if the saviors made it to see the whisperers when all the ammo was used up I think the whisperers would take the win

@@spartantriple7 Your kind of right, but at the same time, if The Saviors won, that means Eugene never betrayed them at the end, so they’ll most likely have Eugene making more bullets for them, and that’s not even counting the other communities' resources they took over the years leading up to The Whisperers. What I think would most likely happen is Negan's scouts would find out humans are using walkers as camouflage. Since they would still have massive territory, which will only grow over the next couple years, they would likely surprise attack the whisperers at their camp, surrounding them, and doing the line-up, probably killing Alpha and Beta with Lucille. With Negan learning his lesson from leaving Rick and the group alive, he would kill the leader and Alpha's giant henchmen to cripple the whisperers so they would work for Negan. If they don’t provide for Negan and try to use their horde, the saviors have Eugene to help them, so he would most likely find a solution to stop their horde with the many resources they have and have taken from other communities as a result of them expanding their empire.

Depends on what kind of walkers we have in the horde, if we have smart zombies, it's the end of saviours.

Another is the wisperers would have a hard time infiltrating them! Idk why but the saviours seem to all know each other more than anyone else do! They have a very fleshed out chain of command where they everyone is being given orders by someone close to them in small groups that go up the further along the chain you go! It would be very hard to sneak a member in without a captain or lieutenant notecint that one of his men isint his

Fr bro

They were supposed to be around to fight the Whisperers like in the comics Dwight became there leader but in the show Daryl became there leader

You conviently left out the CRM, not that the saviors would win that battle. One helicopter equipped with chlorine gas towards the Sanctuary and the fight would be over before it's even started.

The Common Wealth Army would've easily ended The Saviors. These guys have more arsenal plus a special ops team unit on top of military trucks hell u don't even know how much fire power they even had at the time The Saviors were discovered. The CRM would easily also end them. The Whisperers are way too strategic and Negans confidence would over estimate The Whisperers. They don't have the same tactics like The Coalition did when they fought the Whisperers. Negan would lose

​@@therealdeal8277what special ops team did the common wealth have ? i don't remember any, correct me if I'm wrong

Eugene🤫

Which betrayed him

@@n2k-clapz-248 Simon, Dwight and Eugene

I mean alpha had gamma, lydia and two no names betray her but that doesn't compare to the three highest ranking and most important people in your group.

They were definitely a much larger threat this was a new fear and they are still the most scariest group ever. They would've loved The Wolves as they had similar beliefs

Seasons 1-8: Guns, Guns, Guns. Seasons 9-10: What guns? Season 11: Guns are back baby!

Always said this. They played Chess not checkers there tactics and plays were well smarter than expected. Even of the Coalition/Militia still had there guns from the All Out War still they would still struggle badly if not worse due to relaying on guns and not tactics instead. This was for the better of The Hilltop, & Alexandria. They barely won & would've lost if not for Negan

🤣🤣🤣 yes because they could easily beat a group that could control hundreds of walkers and hide among them, all they gotta do is guide a herd towards them as a diversion and attack them

​@@Bonney5thGearif you think abt it with the firepower they had prob wipe them out fairly easily if rick and the gang can take out hundreds of zombies with Melee weapons

theyre like the most capitalist community in twd alexandria and hilltop are the communist ones

@@zwitie3455 oh ok i dont know anything about Soviet Union but oh well but thx for letting me know

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@@Murp_law13 bro just admitted to copying another guy’s comment for likes

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yea they control zombie hordes

How about when they lured Rick's group in the rv to a clearing they somehow got them right where they wanted them in the rv and they walked right into them on foot

Nah I don’t think so. Even their big Ace up the sleeve ( the massive horde ) wasn’t even that tactical. Like 5 people dealt with that horde like nothing, the rest stayed in high altitude ( now that was tactical). People need to stop overhyping the whisperers. Yeah they were cool but they were perhaps less of a threat than terminus if it wasn’t for plot convenience. They’re just a cult of savages without resources. The only upper hand they had was blending in with the walkers but they gave up that upper hand when they revealed themselves lol, do you consider that to be strategy? I think not.

Firearms:

And what about the outposts? Would Alpha even know about them?

Prob not

Season 9

@@LeoMessiAnkara It was Season 10, Episode 12 that he killed her

Technically it wasn't fair since alpha didn't have a weapon out and didn't expect negan to kill her

@@hattonpike oh yeah sorry i forgot my bad.

​@@GrogIV sure but if Negan can manipulate the alpha into getting into such a vulnerable state he could use that in the war to kill her regardless of fairness in the fight. And even if it was a fair fight I don't see alpha besting Negan's prime self

Or that other group

Yeah your right

Bro just spoiled this.

@@deviscool1378 bro that was 4 years ago if you’re watching edits about the show and shit even if it’s like fan fic you’re weird just watch the show

​@@camodino5667 man i aint watching 16 seasons with 10 spinoffs and each season has 60 episodes

@@Peroskiller fair point

​@@Peroskiller this is just the main show, not spin offs

They’re really not. The only reason why they where so OP is because the director decided that guns were no longer interesting and came up with that BS “ ammunition is low “ plot whole. Also Rick wasn’t there to deal with them. With the arsenal that the saviors and Alexandria had they would have been wiped in the first encounter. They’re just a cult of savages that avoid civilization because they think they are the end of the world. So they live like primals just foraging and hunting. They’re not good fighters, apart from Beta, they don’t have as much people as hilltop or Alexandria, they just know how to divert hordes and hordes are really easy to deal with as has been demonstrated in the series time and time again. If it wasn’t for plot they wouldn’t even be a real threat, once the jig is up and they realize those aren’t talking walkers.

@@mr.equity1120 bro did you see the size of the herd the whisperers had access to?

If the communities (who were weak af at that time) were able to defeat the whisperers, then I have no doubt that a hypothetical Saviors in s9 would have any trouble. Remember that they would be growing and extracting resources for a decade.

The actual score should be be 10-3 Saviors win

Yewh that would of been a fight but then again the Commonwealth more experience

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@@_Yombo well, they lose in very different way

@@satriya_wardani5943 Wait they lost?

But still wouldnt win

Bruh

1 truck is all they need to lure them away. The Saviors are way too powerful man. The only reason Alpha stood a chance against the mc's is because they were weak af in s10.

@@Top_E_Official you are correct. Negan has more people, more guns and his group are much more organized. However, it doesn't matter, Rick was able to only attack the sanctuary in S8, he was able to cause the sanctuary to be surrounded by walkers, separating Negan from his people, causing the saviors to be trapped and the workers to revolt. Jadis, and Rick would have ended the saviors in that season if Eugene had been there to save them. The whisperers have thousands of walkers, the element of surprise as they hid amongst the dead and when Beta gets inside of the sanctuary, nobody is stopping him. The saviors are not an extremely powerful group, they are a group of close to 1000 survivors who targeted vulnerable groups and without Negan they aren't effective. Only the CRM or the commonwealth can handle Alpha' s horde, their strategy and Beta.

@@LightninLewis How did Eugene save them exactly? I forgot.

the crm would destroy the saviors in seconds. the saviors had maybe 200-300 people and the crm has 250,000

Saviors vs commonwealth (with rocket launcher)

You know what's CRM, right? CRM >>> Commonwealth + Saviors + Whisperers + Alexandria + Hilltop + Kingdom + Oceanside + ....

@@daithiMaaan +woodberry + Terminus + wolves + reapers + marauders + Grady Memorials + The dump + Los Vatos

@@labiospesados2815 yeah, thank you. Still nowhere near to CRM