The Science of Outscoring Steph Curry with Neil deGrasse Tyson

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What’s the best shot in basketball? Neil deGrasse Tyson and co-hosts Chuck Nice and Gary O’Reilly break down the physics behind what makes the Skyhook so effective, as well as one of the greatest eras with basketball greats, Jamaal Wilkes, Michael Cooper, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
How do you stay the all-time scoring leader, 30 years later? Neil and Kareem break down the physics of the shot and what makes it so devastating. How many of Kareem’s career points can be attributed to the Skyhook? We hear anecdotes on the 1980’s Lakers and what they attribute their success to. Was it the laws of physics?
Does practice make perfect? We discuss the role of humility on the team and what it was like to be the best in the game. Why has the skyhook disappeared from today’s basketball? We explore the rise of the 3-point shot and how it has changed present-day basketball. What will the next trend in gameplay be? All that, plus, learn about the only 3-point shot Kareem sank in his entire career.
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0:00 - Introduction
2:47 - Throwback Broadcast
4:08 - Part 1 w/ Jamaal Wilkes
5:43 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s Skyhook
9:47 - Work Ethic of the Lakers
12:15 - How The 80s Lakers Would Fare Today
15:14 - The Physics of the Skyhook
18:34 - Why We Don’t Use The Hookshot Today
20:50 - 3-Point Shots
22:48 - Golden State Warriors
25:36 - Part 2 w/ Michael Cooper
28:47 - Cooper’s First Day on the Lakers
31:07 - Cooper’s Socks
31:58 - Defending Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
33:15 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in the Locker Room
34:35 - How Good Was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?
36:01 - Closing Notes

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@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

First!

@moonshoes11 2 жыл бұрын

Hello there! 🧔

@silvk1000 2 жыл бұрын

Neil man, buy yourself a better cam...

@joseimpact 2 жыл бұрын

not fairrr

@craigscott2315 2 жыл бұрын

a sky hook is what builders send apprentices to look for, like getting a bubble for a spirit level.

@jamesman6668 2 жыл бұрын

@lemongavine 2 жыл бұрын

It amazes me that the all-time leading scorer used the skyhook and no one has ever tried to emulate that shot since. It’s mind-boggling really.

@hamdoggius 2 жыл бұрын

Once the three point line was bought in by the league, the shot was no longer considered as efficient as previous. More points were on offer without having to risk a shot at the basket with zero sight of the basket.

@MJ-on2xr 2 жыл бұрын

Current three point line makes nba unwatchable. I’ll take physicality in the paint over a bunch of pansies from range any day…

@RobertSaxy 2 жыл бұрын

@@hamdoggius three days of training in threes are incredibly recent, there were many years of having the three point line were there were only 6-8 threes taken per team per game so I’m pretty sure that’s not the reason

@jtaco4101 2 жыл бұрын

@@MJ-on2xr agreed.

@phishtix452 2 жыл бұрын

That, and the incredibly efficient granny free throw

@sharonlycorish3668 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent stuff. Enough respect to all. This is one for the ages because often times we think only of our present heroics and not of our past heroics.

@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

Those past heroics play an important role in inspiring future heroics!

@ssjackson187 2 жыл бұрын

This was excellent. Looking forward to more of this series

@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@mattevans-koch9353 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Chuck and Gary in their teen years. Great video gentlemen. Certainly made my day.

@Justacoustic79 2 жыл бұрын

Time to analize and break down Fosbury's technique and his amazing courage. Great section guys!! Keep up the good work!!

@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion!

@MaryAnnNytowl 2 жыл бұрын

I vividly remember watching Kareem and the rest of those huge names play waaaaaaaaay back in the day - such an enjoyable time in basketball! Thanks, Chuck, Gary, and Neil for such a fun video!

@ericlaine9390 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy this style of podcasting, it’s fun to see you guys try a new format haha~

@TJ-hs1qm 2 жыл бұрын

Steph Curry is a true phenomenon... how any one can shoot that fast while retaining max control no matter the situation is mind boggling... would love to see you guys react to him...

@kevinm.1565 2 жыл бұрын

Great concept! Great execution!👏

@ec1628 2 жыл бұрын

Chick Hearn on the call!!! Had to replay Chickie Baby a few times. Thanks for playing a clip with him announcing. Best basketball announcer of all time.

@jmanj3917 2 жыл бұрын

10:35, It seemed to me that recognition of the practice and work ethic required was first really emphasized during Jordan's glory days

@youhavestinkybreath 2 жыл бұрын

And then really stroked with Kobe's "Mamba Mentality".

@murasaki848 2 жыл бұрын

Kareem Abdul Jabbar, the Roger in "Roger, Roger..." :D

@dunderwood4444 2 жыл бұрын

Hands down one of my top 5 episodes. Bless up from Brooklyn #KareemAbduleJabar #LordNice #GaryO #Dr.Tyson outstanding episode Sir's

@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it! :)

@wjcorrinne4052 2 жыл бұрын

I understand having Gary on as soccer/football is a sport played worldwide. But as of late there are some other sports that are also enjoyed around the world, skiing (snow), basketball, tennis, swimming, golf and baseball. Almost all from youth up until old age, intensity more so as young and slower as we age. To have some athletes from these sports to offer a different perspective would be interesting. There are similar skills and stamina necessary but many times a complete different skill set is necessary. I recall a photo from back in the 60s-70s where Carl Yastrzemski was so focused that you could see his vision zeroed in on the baseball just a fraction of a second before it makes contact with the bat. I’m not sure how fast the swinging bat was moving but the baseball was in the 90mph+. That’s focus and concentration. It would be the same for other sports but in different ways. Watching Pete Maravich moving on the basketball court whether passing or shootings was a ballet of sports not seen before at that consistent level.

@dracomadness792 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting topic, I love it!

@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

So glad!

@TJ-hs1qm 2 жыл бұрын

Holger Geschwindner mathematician and physicist by training and Dirk Nowitzki's trainer is also worth checking out. Thanks to his background he was able to reverse engineer the ballistics and mechanics of the perfect shot. He set up robots to test the perfect shot sequence for Dirk's body. This made Dirk one of the finest shooters of the league having internalized those models. Later Dirk invented a new kind of shot the deadly step-back.

@Wth969 2 жыл бұрын

My guy dirk did not invent the step back smh

@victorocasio8766 10 ай бұрын

3:51 - Im surprised they had Chuck pronounce the name on this one, its cool to see him say a name with confidence. 😅

@zzcaptainmastiv2727 2 жыл бұрын

five star *****5***** thanks Star Talk. at sixty-five next year i can remember watching Lew-Kareem. nice to go back there.!

@gustavofigueiredo1798 2 жыл бұрын

What a delightful video.

@d.e.7467 2 жыл бұрын

Eliminate the three second lane violation rule and the big man game would return. Today, a seven footer has to have a three point shot for the chance of making a roster.

@marshallmatters5790 2 жыл бұрын

Just what I needed. Thank you neil!

@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

@harriyama 2 жыл бұрын

Love StarTalk! Hoping one day you could opine on the Schwarzschild Cosmological Model on one of your episodes!

@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion! We're listening!

@Sharky053 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice looking set and quality quests. Also, Gary has an impressive head of hair :o

@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

Right?!

@cmill169 Жыл бұрын

A game changer series I would love to see would be.... A meeting or gathering of the top 5 or 10 or even 15 NBA players of all time. And see what all they had to say about each other and how they seen themselves compared to other players. I'm sure this will never happen.

@makaveli1216 2 жыл бұрын

Next we gotta talk about MJ and Kobe's fadeaway!

@gew2027 2 жыл бұрын

The fade belong to wilt and the finger roll

@ryanseward2760 2 жыл бұрын

Or Dirk's considering how well he used his height so his shot was literally unblockable.

@_Bosley 2 жыл бұрын

Great choice for a 1st episode! :)

@Z1BABOUINOS 2 жыл бұрын

Are there any stats on Kareem's skyhook? Shots / Basket

@jjjvvv123 2 жыл бұрын

Very interested and I haven't watched the video yet but I'm going to guess math needs some credit too!

@mrpoppz838 2 жыл бұрын

exactly what I needed to watch while working 😁

@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

@mrpoppz838 2 жыл бұрын

@@StarTalk I loved it just as much as every other video y’all put out. Educational, entertaining, and always leavin me wantin more!

@darrensenpai 2 жыл бұрын

What do Star Talk think about the scene where the flash reverse time in the snyder cut?

@wjcorrinne4052 2 жыл бұрын

If the NBA outlawed the “slam-dunk” you’d see the the “skyhook and others returned. Wasn’t the “dunk” outlawed when Jabber entered college to level the field for everyone else because of his dominance in the paint. So he had to develop his other shots and this became his “go to shot”. Not entirely clear if this was the case but I do remember something about this restriction? on this but I do seem to recall something like this

@mavfan1 2 жыл бұрын

Not true. There is essentially no dunk in women’s basketball but you don’t see the skyhook, just layups and uncontested threes.

@hamdoggius 2 жыл бұрын

@@mavfan1 Wrong, the 3 point shot didn't exist at the time either. Three pointers have replaced the skyhook as they are worth more points with less risk than the skyhook. The dunk WAS banned from 67 to 76, likely inspired by Jabbar's dominance at the rim.

@joel2421 2 жыл бұрын

Kareem learned and perfected the Skyhook in Middle School, they didn’t ban dunking until his Sophomore year of college. So, no.

@hamdoggius 2 жыл бұрын

@@joel2421 That's a little pedantic...

@joel2421 2 жыл бұрын

@@hamdoggius ??? The person asked a question, I answered it.

@leomartin1603 2 жыл бұрын

It said out scoring Curry. But they Never SAID he would be featured in a video clip.

@viz3956 2 жыл бұрын

I was so confused 🤔

@catherinetoomey-flynn1624 Жыл бұрын

These sports editions are great at demonstrating different types of intelligence. There is a high level of intelligence in these athletes that will often get overlooked.

@ThomasistheTwin 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I sped through the whole thing quickly just to see what you guys were chatting about and I can say with 100% confidence that the term “muscle memory” was never used in any of it. The hook shot isn’t used because nobody practices it and yet cream Abdul Jabbar just said that Meadowlark(and I’ve met a female who could do this as well consistently) can hook from half court so there goes your three point theory out the window. Because it’s the exact same thing that Montana Elway Favre Manning etc. do they just know how to let it go after you do it enough times

@cottagehuntsville8195 2 жыл бұрын

I always put cream Abdul jabar in my coffee.

@starmaxxer 2 жыл бұрын

We know that the force of gravity is simply curved space time now tell me if the curved space time is the gravity itself then what is pulling an object towards the center of the gravity well?

@ra2186 2 жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: Wilkes is the star in Laurence Fishburne's first ever movie - Cornbread, Earl, and Me. Released in 1975, it's a story of a young, unarmed, black kid shot in the back by police. Sound familiar?

@KC-nd7nt 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty cool show guys

@Cleanframe 2 жыл бұрын

Basketball Science is very cool!

@tuborrr 2 жыл бұрын

This a video I know allot of people are about to view (especially hoopers 😂)

@allendelarosa0525 2 жыл бұрын

The Skyhook nowadays will be outshot by threes. Simple as that. Also being inside the paint exposes players to higher risk of getting injured. Just like in warfare, you don't want to be near that warzone anymore.

@jmanj3917 2 жыл бұрын

19:30, I wonder what the different "expected values" would be between KAJ's Skyhook and the total of three point and two point shots taken by today's players. [For Example: 1: A modern player shoots from the field with under 50% accuracy on average (+/- 47% for the 2020-2021 season). Their expected value is their percentage of "hits" times the number of points per successful shot (which is closer to 2 points per bucket than it is to 3 points, for most shooters), times the number of shots taken. So the expected value would be a little over one point per shot, times shots taken 2. Kareem shot only from the 2-point range, so his expected value per shot would be 2 times his accuracy percentage, times shot number. At his lifetime average of 56%, KAJ was "good for" 1.12 points per shot, times the number of shots taken.] This leads me to believe that the Skyhook is at least as successful at consistently generating points as is the modern approach of taking higher risk (lower percentage of success) shots. And, maybe the fact that Kareem still holds the title for most points ever in an NBA career attests to this possibility as well.

@KC.801 2 жыл бұрын

He won’t be holding that record for much longer

@ryanseward2760 2 жыл бұрын

You also have to add in fouls. You're much more likely to be fouled around the basket than at the 3 point line which can add even more to the points per shot. Especially considering the only way to really guard the skyhook was to either come from behind or hard foul.

@KC.801 2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanseward2760 which is better 3 points for 2 shots if you actually get a and 1 which is unlikely if your shooting a sky hook and get fouled so it’s most like 2 points for 2 shots or 3 points for 1 shot 🤷‍♂️

@ryanseward2760 2 жыл бұрын

@@KC.801 except the 3 point shot is a much lower percentage of being made. Plus by drawing fouls you weaken the other team often making interior baskets even easier. So no, that record is not going to be beaten by a heavy 3 point shooter any time soon.

@KC.801 2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanseward2760 actually the more people are practicing the 3 the better the percentages are getting and there almost the same as 2 point shots and drawing fouls does not tire out the other team it gives them a rest while you shoot free throws idk where you got that from😂

@jasper5394 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you could get youtuber professor dave on the show.

@msmith53 2 жыл бұрын

AND that was before the 3 point shot! But he was also playing with much smaller players as opponents.

@mavfan1 2 жыл бұрын

Kareem was 1 for 18 from behind the 3 point line for his career. 😱😱😱

@jefevonchang 2 жыл бұрын

I'd guess that a lot of those are half- to full-court heaves before the buzzer

@zackerymeltonturdle5648 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly lebron made 1,136 points in 2021 alone. He's 1,325 from beating Kareems record at 38,387 to lebrons 37,062.

@zackerymeltonturdle5648 2 жыл бұрын

And tbh I hate LeBron, but with his rings, 5 current NBA records he holds. If he grabs that #1 spot from Kareem for all time scorer. Than he's the GOAT. Hands down. I hate the dude but stats are stats.

@benbutler9282 2 жыл бұрын

Well said. Like or not I can still recognize freakish talent

@aldinmendozaaguilar6596 2 жыл бұрын

4:23 “the pleasure is us” lol

@slickrick1856 2 жыл бұрын

This is golden

@shawnbystrom7265 2 жыл бұрын

Chuck kinda looks like the pointing at head meme guy but reminds me of Carlton from Fresh Prince

@leomartin1603 2 жыл бұрын

Being that Kareem is SO TALL and his arms are so long made his shots LAND. Using the skyhook.

@leomartin1603 2 жыл бұрын

The basketball player Pervis Short was the KING of shooting high arched shots. Shaquille Oneal was very Profecient with HIS hook shots.

@leomartin1603 2 жыл бұрын

And for Kareem to be as tall and athletic as he was him being a center, one has few options in the paint, the Skyhook just seems the MOST feasible.

@tayloralvidrez4342 2 жыл бұрын

Muscle memory, its how players can shoot with 85-95% accuracy. I can't believe karem is the all time leading point scorer and only made 1 three pointer in his whole career.

@dxbdxb6404 2 жыл бұрын

* If the Milky Way moves 1.3 million miles per hour through space then what if we could make something stationary in space like make an object go 0mph in space. And what is space like at 0mph. And if the Big Bang is making everything explode away. Then this is what gives us “0 gravity” moving threw space at the same seed as the Milky Way and the vacuum effect in space is caused by the moving momentum in space literally pulling the air out of our bodies. So what would happen if you put an object in space moving at 0mph and would the physics be different there

@leomartin1603 2 жыл бұрын

I didnt know that Norm Nixon was the IVERSON of his era.

@James-pl2oy 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! What’s that on top of Gary’s head? Haha He looks so different back then

@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

His Bichon Frise

@aididdat1749 2 жыл бұрын

Shaq and Yao didn't shoot 3's. But they didn't really sky-hook

@resonant_theories 2 жыл бұрын

high arc shots can't be blocked easily..

@iamdb1990 2 жыл бұрын

wow, younger Gary looks older than current Gary

@jmanj3917 2 жыл бұрын

7:00, Ah, yes...the dreaded "Fundamentals"...lol That couldn't be more accurate...Fundamentals, Fundamentals, Fundamentals...regardless of your undertakings

@koreyhelms6857 2 жыл бұрын

If I was in the league the only thing that would matter to me it's not the Flesh in the shots it is my results which speak the loudest results win games

@keelyevans4695 2 жыл бұрын

Nam-myoho-renge-kyo everyone we love your work! Your always find a way too tease me! Physics snuggling! Oh yeah sports are great for people and we consistently have injuries medical could totally be free for everyone with all basic needs met easy don't ya think? 13:56 yes that's very true on all the fields and there was a problem with some of the uneducated that were being injured when no one was looking meaning in the system getting starved out both in the states and outside. How do you guys think they ever came up with the idea of farming civilians into jail to build military?

@TheLastScrapeto 2 жыл бұрын

all that introduction and no magic mention lmao

@fattmusiek5452 Жыл бұрын

❤

@leomartin1603 2 жыл бұрын

The socks were long. And the shorts were SHORT.

@TheEternalPheonix 2 жыл бұрын

Let all the horses go?! What are horses doing on a basketball court?!

@KZ3fps 2 жыл бұрын

Of course they used the phantom foul call picture which cost the Pistons a championship 😂

@samreilly1484 2 жыл бұрын

LeBron is expected to pass Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as the highest scorer in NBA history next season!

@marksusskind1260 2 жыл бұрын

gary with a Bichon Frise on his head?

@StarTalk 2 жыл бұрын

👍 Brilliant!

@mikiscruf 2 жыл бұрын

3Point Shot= Larry Bird!

@ledechad 2 жыл бұрын

43rd

@jameshetfield13 2 жыл бұрын

Did the most popular physician nowadays commented (First) on his own video? Nah i think the Earth is flat after all 🤔

@TRYING526 2 жыл бұрын

After 0-9 , I see this.......

@DanRKong 2 жыл бұрын

👍

@a2tactical 2 жыл бұрын

Lebron’s 1300 points away of taking top spot for scoring leader

@vuyoshabangu1022 2 жыл бұрын

It's called football Neil. 🤦🏾‍♂️

@putonghualandolin8110 2 жыл бұрын

:)))) Karim was "an expert of martial arts" ?! ;) And "he was trained by the best, a.k.a Bruce Lee " ?! ;) You gotta be kidding me ! ;)

@QSynenergy 2 жыл бұрын

Let me just leave this here - Part 1. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/np-HlK2dpp7bhWw.html

@yourmom361 Жыл бұрын

Is this Gary guy serious? 🤣🤣🤣

@edmossbb 2 жыл бұрын

Um... why is this on StarTalk? When did the definition of 'star' transition from astrophysics to popular culture? Physics of sports interview -- cool. Sports interview -- irrelevant (on this channel).

@Haynes88 2 жыл бұрын

😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂

@antdad24 2 жыл бұрын

Hey we found an observable black hole In our Galaxy...ain't that kinda a big deal? like actually observable cause it close to a star supposedly. this is not something that hasn't been known but observable means we can actually learn about it foreal now right ? experiments? not just theoretically? hey I'm a half a g.e.d. haver but some reason my head this is big no? lightyears away and all it is most likely but big nah?