First rule of rules for FM dont exist generic tactic forget one tactic for all!FM is so complicate it is not super Mario..for tactic you must be undertstandt roles

A comment like this can truly make my day! Thank you so much, and I'm very happy to hear that you're enjoying the content!

Thanks man! Love your content, so it means a lot coming from you!

From the looks of it, you've got the process of building a team and tactic on FM down! Nothing more exciting than building your own squad up and trying out what works!

And that's exactly the beauty of FM: You can play it however you like! Want to play with the best OP tactics? Sure! Want to build up your own highly customizable tactic? Sure! Want to try out a preset tactic to see how far you can take it? No problem! So many ways to play, and not one better than the other

Thanks for the kind words, and welcome aboard!

Thanks man! Happy you enjoyed the video!

You're too kind! I'm happy to hear that the videos have been helpful!

Amazing results my friend! Looks like you really got the tactics in FM23 on lockdown. Now to keep that momentum going, and dominate the next league as well. Good luck to you, but I'm sure that with some smart signings you'll have no troubles with continuing your winning ways!

Tactic?

You're absolutely welcome my friend!

You're absolutely welcome! Let me know what kind of tactic you come up with!

Thanks for the support mate!

Great to see you back in the comments Sprite, and thanks for the nice words!

You're welcome my friend, and thanks for the nice words!

Doesn't surprise me that one of RDF's tactics has been your favourite, one of the best tacticians out there! Definitely crucial to make small adjustments, the best setup can change for every game and every situation. Since I'm intrigued: What OI do you currently use?

Love to hear about your tactical journey! I think what you're describing is highly underrated: setting up a powerful tactic is one thing, but reviewing where it's lacking and changing it up to compensate its weaknesses is what it's all about! With what team are you playing this tactic with?

@@coachroan Thanks. Am using Chelsea's squad

@@paulakpeti6142 a great team with so many fun and recently signed players! Who's been your star player?

@@coachroan Yh, my star players are Ziyech, Kante & Havertz I can't pick one cause all three are doing excellently, match ratings are pitch perfect with either lots of goals/ assist. James & sterling are great too but not that consistent

@@paulakpeti6142 Didn't expect Ziyech in that list, seeing his real life struggles at Chelsea. Happily suprised though, as he was an absolute baller in the Eredivisie!

Thanks for the kind words my friend!

Thanks man, means a lot coming from you!

Liking a 2 striker set up more and more in this years game!

That is the beauty of FM, perfecting your own tactic and dominating your opponents!

I freakin love this tactic. Discovered/tried it for the first time in fm22 and it worked really well. Due to many high quality forwards I play a 4312 with shadow striker instead of the defencife midfielder right now but want to return to the 4132 on the long term.

@@DD-dk3rw That shadow striker role is absolutely deadly when used right!

Try 343 you will change ur mind

Welcome aboard my friend! If you haven't tried out FM23 yet, I can definitely recommend you give it a try! And I tried my best with the pronunciation of Segundo Volante, hopefully it came out allright

@@coachroan yeah, I used to play FM 2012, stopped for a while. Maybe I'll give it a try again, watching your videos inspires me! Your pronunciation was very good, portuguese is not an easy language for many people, too many nasal sounds haha

@@GuaranaGH A lot has changed since FM12, so if you decide to give this years game a try I'm sure you'll love it! Good to hear that my pronunciation was decent! I always try and Google pronunciations if I'm making a video, think it's the least I can do to respect the languages

You're welcome my friend!

Thanks for the kind words!

Thanks for the kind words my friend! Those are two great content creators you mentioned, both of which I watch personally as well. While I like your suggestion, I think they both do such a great job explaining their tactics that I currently don't know if I can add anything to that. Open to suggestions though if you think there's an angle I'm missing!

Now that's what I call a tactic! Did you manage to get promoted?

@@coachroan Unfortunately no...lost 1-0 but will push for promotion this season

@@Mr_Stats_and_all Still an unbelievable achievement! I have no doubts that with some smart siginings, you'll be getting that promotion next season no sweat!

Which roles did you play your DMs?

@@thepescompany3388 I played 1 VOL with attack duty and 1 DM with support

Thanks for the kind words! Tried to keep it as concise as possible, so glad you enjoyed that aspect!

You're selling yourself short my man, the only person that turned your season around is you! I am glad to hear though that the video could help you out!

Thanks man, and welcome aboard! What tactic has been your favourite to take advantage of the width of the pitch?

@@coachroan all joking aside, nice videos. Simple and to the point. Who do you follow my friend IRL?

@@liamhartley2300 Thanks man! Do you mean which team I support IRL? If so, I support PSV!

@@coachroan I remember them winning the champions league in 88 I think? They had a good side...tough right now though with Ajax isn't it.

@@liamhartley2300 yeah, our biggest trophy win! We've really been struggling this season, not just with Ajax but also Feyenoord and AZ. How about you? Who do you support?

Thanks for the kind words!

Thank you my friend! I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed the video!

Thank you my friend, and welcome aboard!

Thanks for the nice words, and welcome aboard my friend!

@@coachroan awesome bro

And thank you for the kind words!

@@coachroan already putting your insights into use in my new save. Cheers :)

@@piotrwoejko5857 Good to hear! What kind of save are you running, and what's your tactic looking like?

@@coachroan decided to take on Vaduz, finally. Am using 4-2-4 with two segundo volantes on support and balanced mentality. This tactic has been hugely successful for me in few previous saves, but they were all with bigger clubs (Milan, Hertha, Juve, England). Definitely 2DM formations are a thing this year.

@@piotrwoejko5857 going for a proper challenge I see. Let me know how your tactic works at that level, would be interested to hear how it performs!

Taking South Korea to a world cup final is impressive! Did you manage them during a save with a club, or did you start an international focused save?

Thank you my friend!

Sounds like an amazing tactic!

@@coachroan thanks coach. You definitely know your stuff for sure. Keep up the great videos

@@coachroan the above tactics over 242 games played. 74% win 15% draw 12% loss. There are alot of weaknesses in the team at the back where I concede towards 70th minutes second half. First half I tend to dominate. If it looks like the other team are clawing back momentum I will either switch to direct counter and hope for long balls. Switch to wing play and aim for ball at Target Forward f I see the midfield being centrally overlooked that is. I have noticed if you base alot of monthly training around possession, Defending and tactical. You can make the team great off the ball and positioning. When I go to buy wingers or any position I try to go for players with a high tackling and somewhat mediocre bravery stats. I've seen lots of wingers go off with reds on other saves lol. It also helps my teams Pressing ability to retain and get hold of the ball via interceptions. Just my take.

@@kwilliams5260 From what I'm reading, you're taking a proper in depth look at your tactic and team building, which is amazing to see! It can be difficult to put all the puzzle pieces in the right place, so keep trying things out and improve bit by bit. Sounds like you're already on your way!

It is a bit annoying to see one role dominate so much in a position regarding the FM23 meta. I do personally enjoy using a DLF with 2 inside forwards, eventhough it might not be the most effective possible option

@@coachroan I really need a 4-2-3-1 DLF tactic with 2 IF. What role should my AM and 2 DM? I want assist score mainly from my DLF but he just keep scoring like AF, he doesnt create chances much. (My DLF is Icardi and his mental is very good after the update) Can you suggest antything man? I will be very appreciate.

@@hanlein If you want your DLF to be an assist provider, I would suggest your AM to be a Shadow Striker, so he can make the runs into space which your striker can play the ball into. For your DM's you're pretty much free to choose what you want. I personally love a DLP on support with a Segundo Volante on attack or support. This is veeery attacking though, so it will depend on how much risk you want to take. My final suggestion would be to maybe try something like a False Nine if you really want your ST to focus on assisting instead of scoring

@@coachroan Thank you! DLF with SS brilliant idea and i am playing attacking football so i want that attacking DM's. I am new to fm series so thank you very much

@@hanlein You're absolutely welcome! Firmino is perfect for that false nine role. Let me know how the tactical tweaks work out for you!

Part of the beauty of FM (and real life football for that matter) is that you don't have to go super complicated for your tactic to work! A solid 442 with quality CM's can definitely dominate in this years game!

Definitely what the OP tactics seem to agree on!

Thanks for the kind words! To be honest, there is a part of me that thinks Mbappe would be amazing in any position on this years game

You found the true power of the gegenpress! I do find it interesting how effective it is, no matter the level of team you're playing as. Hopefully your change of fortune continues, and you can get to the Serie A!

Everyone seems to be overthinking this through the lens of real life. If a tactic is effective in FM it's effective at pretty much any level, because even if your team is struggling to keep the pressing and tempo so is every opponent. Just have to be on top with substitutions.

@@Draddar Can't disagree with you there. How realistic it might seem, it's still just a game, so what works in this engine works in this engine

isnt that obvious that pressing should be much more higher rewarding in lower league? I mean players in lower league can still have high stamina, and work rate and can still play as the instructions said but they dont have players that have enough skill to be press resistent or have good control of the ball nor vision, i have seen some lower league in real life even kick the ball direct in to opponent side just after the game start just to be able to press the throw-ins lol

Why wouldn’t you do that in Serie B? It’s all relative. A guy with 14 stamina in B is as good as a guy with 18 in A, because the players around the guy in B have worse stats, too. It all depends where you’re rated in that specific league. If you’re expected top half you should always press *especially* at home. Always press at home full stop because home advantage is pretty OP

Would have to depend on the rest of your tactic. A lot of the OP tactics with 2 strikers used 2 AF's. You could also try a Target Forward, to give you a different type of outlet going forward

Wouldn't be a CoachRoan video without Adam's Ten Hag comment! Glad to see you back my friend

Can't disagree with that, but to be fair it is also a very popular formation in real life. So is FM correctly displaying that fact in the game, or is it just an OP formation? Don't know how I feel about it myself

@@coachroan as you said in your video, A back 3 formation is very popular in Serie A but in FM it doesn't work. The game is biased on the English football too much. The ME has been broken/the same for at least 4 years with barely any improvement. This also show the technical limitation of the game. You cannot play with something that has not been coded. Even if it makes sense. I love the game but feels it's more apparent that buying it every other year or even three years is more than enough as there is not enough update in between. Now that the game is also available on Gamepass, I will defo check it there before buying any in the future.

@@samikazbe Using a back 3 does introduce a new fun challenge though, especially since 2 of the OP tactics did make it work! I think the Gamepass is an ideal solution for anyone who has doubts on if the new edition would be worth it. Great thinking by the FM team!

No worries my man, these trends are not an absolute must have in your tactics. They are only an indication of what is working for the most OP tactics out there. But if your tactic has a solid tactical foundation, you can defintely make it work! If you're worried about your own tactic though, check out this video where I run down some of the most common tactical mistakes, and how you can fix them! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrGilraUsrqscas.html

Definitely a great position to introduce in your tactic! What is your favourite role to use in this position?

Thanks my friend!

There certainly is a large difference between FM and FIFA when it comes to gameplay! Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video!

You should be proud! Winning the CL is no joke, no matter how long it takes you! What kind of tactics were you running with?

I think we've all been here at some point, not being intrigued by any new save any more. The first thing that you could do (and what you might not expect me to say) is take a break from FM. From reading your comment it sounds like you've played FM a lot, so it might be best to just step away for a bit, try out some other games or hobbies. Eventually that anticipation to try out a new save will return, and you'll be back to a new exciting save in no time. The second thing I would say is you can ask yourself what you enjoy most about real life football. Do you love the team you support? Do you love a particular league, or a particular type of team? Find what you like the most, and return to that for your next save. Some general suggestions I want to add are different challenge saves, such as building a team with limitations (youth only challenge, one nation only challenge etc.) What I enjoy specifically for long term saves is building one super team, and then taking a job at a different team in the same league, so I can try and beat the super team I built myself. Hope this helps my friend!

@@coachroan Thanks for the reply, i do exactly the same thing usually. I take a break , then i feel like playing it again after a period of time. But even then when i start that new save i would eventually fall into that cycle again. I wish there were some way to play FM where you arent sure that you will succeed eventually. Like in other online multiplayer FPS games or like FIFA where you can keep playing it for 10 years but that excitment would still be there coz you nevr know whats gonna happen.

@@PeacefulSoul6 Based on what you're describing, maybe the online modes are more to your tastes. You can enter an online career, drafts or versus matches, and get a more unpredictable gameplay experience as your facing a real life opponent. You can check it out, and see if you like it!

Hey, the most fun a have în this game îs taking my childhood club which îs Dinamo Bucharest now în the second tier of romanian footbal and the short goal îs get promoted then title and then oh boy the fun begins try to win the champions league and raise the ranking of the league to get champions league group stage direclty. I din this în my fm 20 în took me 4 sesons after my first title win just to qualify for group stage...getting out was a completly different story another 4 years and from then în the next 3 years I managed a quarter final and 2 round of 16. The struggle îs keeping your players, buy cheap sell high and always have a youger better player coming up next. În fm 23 my first save îs atletico Madrid just to get the feeling of the game 5 seasons and 5 title wins and 2 champions league....oshimen îs a GOD, 230 apps 229 goals, also ogegard în a de-mi God, I went like a galactico transfer1 player 100 mil every season and some freetransfer kile guimares, raspadori, Ricci, and a very cheap dybala for 20 mil and now after the update I Will start a new save wiith dinamo and this time win the champions league

@@RapidReload. Osimhen is definitely one of the best strikers in this years game! Good luck on your next save, you'll get that Champions League no doubt!

Sounds like a solid tactic. How has it been working for you?

@@coachroan solid, managedt to get one scudetto (Playing as Triestina, wanted to play defensive) The key for me has been cautious retain shape counterattack with get stuck in

Possession is abysmal tho Edit: direct and high tempo

@@ivantomic5916 Hey who needs the ball right? As long as you get the results you want! Have to be honest, hadn't heard of Triestina before. Is it a fun club to manage?

@@coachroan yeah it's fun, you start in Seria C -a with some decent guys and no debt, what sold it to me is the history of the club + for once didn't use gegenpress after what has been like 5 years

Interesting question. For me it would have to depend on what type of save I'm building the tactic for. If I was playing a longer term save where I would want to get really immersed, I would build a tactic from the ground up while taking these findings into account (e.g. maybe using a DM instead of a CM). If I was trying a challenge save on the other hand where I want the best results possible, I would much more closely replicate the OP tactics, only making slight adjustments to fit my current team

But then with a 523 you will lose the use of Kudus who is a fantastic Shadow Striker

@@danjames2494 that is the eternal struggle of tactics in FM (and also what makes it so fun). If you're set on using him as a shadow striker, I would suggest a 4231 with 2 DMs

I'd be happy to help! I would need a bit more information to really help you out though. Where in the save are you? (First season or already further in) What specifically are you struggling with: Not getting wins, conceding too much, struggling financially?

Yes, pretty much everything still holds for the new update!

@@coachroan Thanks !

A 424 is difficult to get right defensively. The key is to get your midfield two right. These 2 players need to be sensible, solid players who won't get out of position fast, cause if they do there is a huge gap in front of your defence. Is this what you're noticing with your tactic as well?

@coachroan yes i scored a lot of goals but they scored alot against me ...

@@cvetans91 I'd advice you to look at your midfield roles, positions and where you're leaving space. If changing the midfielders doesn't help, try and analyse where the goals are coming from, and then change a role or two to fill up the hole that's causing the goals

Leipzig is very exciting team with heaps of potential. Good luck overthrowing Bayern!

Love him on this game!

While the style of football you're able to play will be very different down in level 10, the majority of these tactical trends will still hold through at that level!

Op tactic stands for Overpowered tactic

I don't know if there is a single "best" tactic, as how well a tactic will perform will depent on the players on your team. Looking at the OP tactics, a singular "best" tactic would be something along the lines of a 4231 with 2 DM's, with a lot of attacking roles and a high pressing system. But be sure to analyse your own team, and find what suits your players best!

It depends on what you define as "works with this game". I do fully agree that there are tactics and tricks that work better in the game than might be realistic, but any real life tactic that is succesfully translated to the game will work fine as well! That's also the beauty of this game, you can play it however you want.

There are certainly more sites providing valuable tactical databases, FM Arena being one of them! For this video I decided to use FM Base's tactics, but FM Arena is quality as well!

The fun thing is that you can play it however you like! Want to focus on getting the best possible tactic in this match engine? You can! Want to recreate a real life tactic as close as possible? You can! Whatever suits you best is what you should go with

What I would say is that tactical tastes differ from coach to coach, and how effective a tactic will be will also depend on the players in your team and if they're capable of executing the tactic. You certainly don't have to use these specific tactical trends, but these do seem very powerful. What kind of tactic do you prefer?

@@coachroan Fm arena have a much better tactic tester

@@lieedd Not familiar with FM arena's tactic tester, so I'm interested to see if any other tactical trends arise from their tactic tester

@@coachroan Fm base haven't tested after the new patch, and they haven't tested that many tactic, FM arena test 10-20 every day and each tactic is tested over 640-1900 matches, they also write a lot about how the tactic tester is set up. Much better site than FM base overall imo.

@@lieedd Sounds like an amazing set-up! Will definitely have a good look at them. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

Ja klopt! Was mijn Nederlands accent zo opvallend😅?

​@@coachroan ik had hetzelfde 🤣 geabonneerd 👍🏻

@@kejinfm8410 Luckily I speak English very well, but not so snel, maar dat komt nog wel

As far as I know, there is no difference in tactical effectiveness on console compared to PC. So this should all apply to console as well!

Yes, all the trends in this video still hold up with the latest update!

The tactics were based on 23.1.0, but I haven't seen or felt any major changes since the update that would make these OP tactics any less effective. @Charles Black even managed to dominate the Vanarama South using these tactical trends! (Check out his comment)

And that's the beauty of FM! While some people would swear by wingers, others only use wingerless tactics! Which tactic has been your favourite this year?

Hey man, thanks for bringing it to my attention, and thanks for the nice words! Noticed the video a couple of days ago. Bit of a weird feeling, but I'm choosing to see it as a compliment. Gonna try and keep making great content that people want to copy I guess!

All the signs of a great tactician there!