The Shapiro DELUSION | A lesson in rhetoric

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3) What Philosophers Believe: Results from the 2020 PhilPapers Survey: dailynous.com/2021/11/01/what...
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
03:28 Logical Fallacies
06:35 From The Fringes
23:55 The Shapiro Delusion
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@rationalityrules
@rationalityrules Жыл бұрын
Fancy an awesome xmas present, or just a great game to play whatever the season? Well, get Hitchslapping, my fellow apes
@mrgrumboldt
@mrgrumboldt Жыл бұрын
Is it like Cards Against Humanity or something
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher Жыл бұрын
leftism: Otherwise known as “progressivism” and even more inaccurately as “liberalism”, leftism is a term originating from the French Revolution of 1789, in reference to the political faction that opposed the French (so-called) king. However, the term is currently used in common discourse to describe those criminals who actively support (or at least tacitly condone) a host of OBJECTIVELY-WICKED ideologies and practices that contravene dharma, such as non-monarchical governances and corrupt economic systems (particularly socialism, communism, fascism, and liberal democracies), egalitarianism, feminism, perverse sexuality (especially homosexuality, bestiality, and transvestism), multiculturalism, and the illegitimate abortion of innocent, defenceless, unborn children. Cf. “dharma”. In the past decade or two (of this treatise being composed), the mass media, especially the motion picture industry and television production companies, has been aggressively promoting all the above CRIMINAL ideologies and practices, helping to expedite the destruction of human society. Recently, large corporations have jumped on the leftist bandwagon (so to speak), in order to profit. As explicated in Chapter 11 of this “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, the state of being of any particular human (or any other animal, for that matter) is due entirely to his or her genetic sequencing and his or her conditioning. Therefore, the explosion of the leftist/liberal mentality in recent decades, particularly in Western countries, has been caused by poor breeding strategies overtaking the more conservative tradition of mate-selection of previous centuries (and indeed, millennia). In other words, due to the fact that criminal behaviour (especially the deviant sexual acts mentioned above) has become increasingly more tolerated, condoned, and even GLORIFIED in most countries, there has been a proliferation of corrupt genetic codes within the wider human population. According to genealogists, for (almost) the entire history of humanity, most women have successfully reproduced, whilst a far far smaller percentage of males have bequeathed their genetic sequence to proceeding generations. Due to the gradual phasing-out of polygamous marriages in even the most conservative societies, as well as the eradication of poverty in most every country, more and more men (as well as women) have been producing offspring. Thus, the human genome has rapidly become adulterated by inferior genetic material (that is, DNA from truly pathetic, uxorious beta-males, bisexuals, and even homosexual couples who engage surrogate mothers or sperm donors in order to conceive children - something of a rare occurrence in previous centuries/millennia). Unsurprisingly, the majority of leftists find it difficult to accept the fact that their criminal mentality is largely inherited (and of course, they are unwilling to acknowledge the blatantly-obvious fact that their ideologies and practices are intrinsically sinful, wicked, evil and immoral in the first place). It seems the consensus amongst leftist “intellectuals” is that every human mental trait is due entirely to one’s environmental conditioning and social milieu, rather than as a consequence of BOTH one’s genetic sequence and one’s life-long conditioning - a fundamentally-flawed assertion that cannot be scientifically-supported. This term was very reluctantly used in the chapter on feminism. I say “reluctantly” because it is unlikely that the term will perdure for many decades longer. This is simple deductive logic, since, as clearly demonstrated in certain chapters in “F.I.S.H”, human civilization cannot survive with such leftist practices and ideologies in place. If you happen to be reading this Holy Scripture a century or more after its conception, you will probably be residing in a nation (as opposed to a country) ruled by a monarch, following the implosion of post-modern, decadent societies. So, either the term “leftism” will eventually become redundant and obsolete, or else, human civilization will devolve into a decadent, diseased state of existence similar to that of the prehistoric era, when the peoples of the world resided in caves or shacks, subsisting on whatever food can be sourced from the surrounding bushland. I trust that you who are reading these wise words will endeavour to influence your social circles to adhere to right-leaning ideologies and practices, such as (above all) monarchical governance, an entirely free-market economy, sexual purity, veganism, and all other virtuous principles. Fear not, for the truth will surely conquer (“satyam-eva jayate”, in Sanskrit)! Cf. “right-wing”. See “multiculturalism” and “socialism”. P.S. As a general rule, it seems (at least anecdotally) that the farther left-leaning is a person, the more physically (and of course, psychologically) UGLY is that person. Unfortunately, that does not seem to prevent leftists from propagating their mutant genes.
@mrgrumboldt
@mrgrumboldt Жыл бұрын
@@TheWorldTeacher Leftists are ugly? Guy must have never been to a Trump rally.
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher Жыл бұрын
@@livinvids1096, well, Slave, we all have our own particular BELIEFS, but ultimately, there exists objective truth, which is not subject to our misconceptions and misunderstandings. One who has transcended mundane relative truth is said to be an ENLIGHTENED soul. 😇
@LeoTChannel
@LeoTChannel Жыл бұрын
Game ordered. If it doesn't get here by Christmas I'll keep it for myself. Ps. No express delivery required😅
@Surestick88
@Surestick88 Жыл бұрын
The nice thing about getting older and losing the higher frequencies of your hearing is that Ben Shapiro just gets quieter and quieter until you can't hear him anymore.
@VaderTheWhite
@VaderTheWhite Жыл бұрын
I am so jealous
@691bxm3
@691bxm3 Жыл бұрын
thats something great to look forward to as we age lol
@allergy5634
@allergy5634 Жыл бұрын
There are women who envy Ben’s oestrogen levels.
@pdcdesign9632
@pdcdesign9632 Жыл бұрын
Ben's chipmunk 🐿 voice is still as annoying as ever 😒 🙄
@Petticca
@Petticca Жыл бұрын
@Surestick88 Well done. I love when someone comments something that causes me to laugh, loudly. Thank you
@paulcleary8088
@paulcleary8088 Жыл бұрын
"Don't be a sheep. Follow me!" - Ben Shapiro.
@Dreaming-11
@Dreaming-11 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the guy is ridiculous and a fraud
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher Жыл бұрын
At least he doesn't MURDER poor, innocent, unborn human beings, Silliest of My Silly Sinful Slaves. :)
@JohnStopman
@JohnStopman Жыл бұрын
🐑🐑 🐑
@GameTimeWhy
@GameTimeWhy Жыл бұрын
Don't be a sheep. Just join christianity which literally calls themselves a flock and Jesus is the Shepard.
@farisakhtar4824
@farisakhtar4824 Жыл бұрын
@@GameTimeWhy Ben is a Jew though
@Elrond_Hubbard_1
@Elrond_Hubbard_1 Жыл бұрын
"You could spend years reading and researching, or you could just hang out with me" Well I guess he knows his audience.
@ghani666
@ghani666 Жыл бұрын
🤣 got ‘em
@notreallyhere67
@notreallyhere67 Жыл бұрын
I guess this is what people mean when they say “do your own research” lol
@purpur7187
@purpur7187 Жыл бұрын
I think that it is not worth doing either one or the other, it would be wiser to listen to yourself and your intuition.
@ACharmedEarthling
@ACharmedEarthling 5 күн бұрын
​@@purpur7187Relying solely on 'intuition' is actually a pretty terrible way to truth. Most major scientific discoveries of the last several hundred years have flown completely in the face of human intuition.
@ewmagency
@ewmagency Жыл бұрын
I love that his sales pitch for his show is telling people they don't have to do their own research because he can be their singular source of truth...kind of like a cult
@arcticpangolin3090
@arcticpangolin3090 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that struck me too. If a trusted source of mine started saying something like that, I would start trusting them far less. Probably even apply far greater scrutiny to their thought, sources and conclusions than I otherwise would have.
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
Except he's literally never done that. That's the left wing tactic.
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
@@arcticpangolin3090 right, but he never did tho.
@ewmagency
@ewmagency Жыл бұрын
@@Perroden Did you even watch this video? Because he literally does it in this video
@DODIRTT
@DODIRTT Жыл бұрын
@@ewmagency he didn't. He's on other people's comments saying the same shit. When you engage with him he will either ignore it or die on the hill that Ben doesn't do that dispite him saying exactly that. Ben Shapiro has fans who doesn't care about anything other then the fantasy of him destroying the libs with facts over feelings. For me while I lean left. I won't call Ben dumb but just like with Jordan Peterson. They struggle to carry there same reputation outside of politics.
@tweetdriver
@tweetdriver Жыл бұрын
I'm 14 second into this video and I've already got my expectations set. Shapiro has done the work. He's going to separate fact from fiction. As usual, that means he's going to separate fact from fiction, and then throw away the facts.
@Julian0101
@Julian0101 Жыл бұрын
"Facts dont care about my feelings, so I'm going to throw them away" - Ben shapiro, probably
@neonboom6121
@neonboom6121 Жыл бұрын
Ironic when he believes in god
@I-AM-IS
@I-AM-IS Жыл бұрын
Deceptive projection of the foundational theistic emotional motivations onto athiests. Sad. Do you think he knows he's lying?
@MrAdamo
@MrAdamo Жыл бұрын
@@I-AM-IS I’m pretty sure lying entails that you know you are lying. Otherwise we’d all be dirty liars and the word would lose all meaning
@anthonymonge7815
@anthonymonge7815 Жыл бұрын
Ben’s claim is similar to those overpriced underperforming degree mills. “Get your MBA in 6 months or less”.
@dustinyoung3069
@dustinyoung3069 Жыл бұрын
Ben is a man of faith. Bad faith, but faith.
@timhallas4275
@timhallas4275 Жыл бұрын
If Ben really studied his religion's source, he would be shocked to find that his ancestors were brutal, murderous, child rapists, who authorized genocide on behalf of their man made god,Yahweh. I found an interesting piece of story telling, about the beliefs of the Jews. You might recommend it to Ben Shapiro. Link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mt5nnNV3s5jLlH0.html God on trial the verdict 10 min.
@nato.8169
@nato.8169 Жыл бұрын
Judaism is bad?
@pseudonymousbeing987
@pseudonymousbeing987 Жыл бұрын
@@nato.8169 No, they're making reference to the common phrase "bad faith" in relation to general debate. To argue in bad faith is to be manipulative and dishonest.
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
He's not tho.
@blerblyderbliggets317
@blerblyderbliggets317 Жыл бұрын
when is it ever good to base reality on what you'd like to be true vs what the evidence suggests? AKA faith. faith gives the brain an excuse for everything. including ethical justifications
@lordmegatron9364
@lordmegatron9364 Жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro: “Facts don’t care about your feelings” Also Ben Shapiro: “The universe was created by a mystical higher power and religion is the basis of morality”
@com.7869
@com.7869 Жыл бұрын
The first one is subjective and even scientist don't know the answer and second one is fact actually. Modern western morals are built upon a religious foundation. Your own isn't the own you think it is.
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
Ya and? I love how childish most atheists are.
@lordmegatron9364
@lordmegatron9364 Жыл бұрын
@@com.7869 How is the second one a fact? Prove it. I dare you.
@lordmegatron9364
@lordmegatron9364 Жыл бұрын
@@Perroden Ad hominem.
@lordmegatron9364
@lordmegatron9364 Жыл бұрын
@@Perroden I love how childish all theists are. They love to pretend that there is a sky daddy watching over them. Pretending Santa loves them.
@kaseywahl
@kaseywahl Жыл бұрын
I'm always wary when someone says "this subject matter is difficult/takes work/is time consuming" And then, rather than encouraging the audience to continue researching and asking to be challenged on the speaker's own assertions, they say: "Don't worry, I've done the work, so just listen to me and you'll be better off than my opponents."
@Evacarline
@Evacarline Жыл бұрын
To be fair, though, most of those who watch him view Google as the pinnacle of research and Facebook posts as sacred texts. Ben, atleast, might have picked up a book somewhere.
@tshred666
@tshred666 Жыл бұрын
@John S. 존 살라 Ben is orthodox. An entire demographic of people who’s entire world view is propped up by victim mentality and projection.
@EwMatias
@EwMatias Жыл бұрын
I think he gives away the whole game: you don't need to actually know anything, just have ready talking points to use as a cudgel against your unprepared friends.
@TheSandwichMonster
@TheSandwichMonster Жыл бұрын
@@Evacarline Pretty baseless assumption with zero evidence. Almost exactly what people in this comment thread accuse Shapiro of... lol. I find the left almost never offers facts or sources but they love to accuse the right of having baseless opinions and no sources.
@Evacarline
@Evacarline Жыл бұрын
@FirstName LastName did you....not notice the sarcasm in my reply? I fully admit that both sides are as bad as each other, my reply was meant as a joke. I just find it funny that someone like shapiro, who is so learned and smart, is often the only evidence people site. And, yes, the left are just as bad. But we don't control the media, no matter what the right say. Just look at the BBC in England and the strikes.
@finalfantasyruler
@finalfantasyruler Жыл бұрын
I don't remember who said it about Shapiro, but my favorite line was "just because you talk fast doesn't mean you're smart"
@GenerationX1984
@GenerationX1984 Жыл бұрын
Ben is great at outsmarting himself. I heard a psychologist on a podcast talking on how smart people can often reinforce religious delusions and other delusions by outsmarting themselves. Mental gymnastics is what they excel in.
@ronaldreagan5981
@ronaldreagan5981 Жыл бұрын
The part where he shows you how poorly you understand your own argument does though. That's the part you commies hate. Makes you look as stupid as you are.
@GenerationX1984
@GenerationX1984 Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldreagan5981 OK boomer. 👌
@ronaldreagan5981
@ronaldreagan5981 Жыл бұрын
@@GenerationX1984 just what one would expect of the low info left. A comment based on nothing that is supposed to be somehow a slam dunk. The problem you have is that all of your ideas are top down propaganda. You have no original ideas of your own. What makes it even harder for you is that your ability for rational thought had atrophied to the point of nonexistence.
@GenerationX1984
@GenerationX1984 Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldreagan5981 Low information? Conservatives embrace disinformation. Maybe there's a reason that Fox News and the idea that rich people are job creators and not union busting exploiters never took off outside the United States. They tried to launch Fox News in the U.K. and it failed miserably. Nobody over there watched it. As a result the U.K. now has lower income inequality than the U.S. because they rejected the lies rich people peddle about themselves.
@user-uu2cj9ct3j
@user-uu2cj9ct3j Жыл бұрын
Ben, right out of the gate... "I'VE done the work... trust me bro"... basically the same thing pastors feed you to keep you from questioning yourself and doing the work. Just puffing up his ego... as usual, but unfortunately for him, it doesn't really bolster his credibility like he thinks it does.
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher Жыл бұрын
What is this "EGO" of which you write?
@user-uu2cj9ct3j
@user-uu2cj9ct3j Жыл бұрын
@@TheWorldTeacher So, it's originally from Frued's psychoanalytical personality theory related to human behavior (id, ego, & superego). But colloquially, used for sense of self-importance.
@GameTimeWhy
@GameTimeWhy Жыл бұрын
@@TheWorldTeacher you are a world teacher and don't know what ego is?
@user-uu2cj9ct3j
@user-uu2cj9ct3j Жыл бұрын
@@GameTimeWhy Not "a" world teacher... "THE" world teacher. Doesn't sound like their ego is very small either with a name like that.
@jufulu7066
@jufulu7066 Жыл бұрын
Mic drop!
@scotthunt4206
@scotthunt4206 Жыл бұрын
Ben is a pro at speaking fast in an authoritative tone. Pastes over a lot of the logic holes for the average audience member. He's very good at the smoke and mirrors approach to debate. And that's everything good I have to say about him.
@TheDarthbinky
@TheDarthbinky Жыл бұрын
My favorite thing is when Shapiro actually gives a source for what he's saying (which is pretty rare), and then after the fact you go and read the thing he cited, and it actually says the exact opposite of what he's arguing. But in the heat of a "debate", you can't do that and he knows it, so he gets away with it.
@xensonar9652
@xensonar9652 Жыл бұрын
Is he though? Is he even good at that?
@yawninghamster7238
@yawninghamster7238 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's like Mr. Satan from Dragon Ball Z, except he's not a hero.
@edenravenwood340
@edenravenwood340 Жыл бұрын
Hanlon's razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. But Ben is not stupid, is he?
@chrispalmer7893
@chrispalmer7893 Жыл бұрын
I think we’re in Peterson territory here. Another good example familiar to UK viewers will be Jacob Rees Mogg. It is possible for someone’s education and ostensible articulateness to vastly exceed their understanding and intelligence. And the Shapiros, Petersons and Rees Moggs of this world spend a lot of their formative years being told they’re really smart. They believe their own hype, and that lends them ill-deserves confidence.
@ChristopherSadlowski
@ChristopherSadlowski Жыл бұрын
::narrows eyes:: I don't know. I think we're in brand new territory here where the subject is both full of malice AND full of stupidity. I used to think Ben was at least intelligent, if incorrect, but the more he runs his fast little mouth the more I'm starting to think he might not have much brains at all. Some of the shit he says is just so out there. Unless it's more the fact he dug so deep into all this that it's less embarrassing to keep going rather than admit he was wrong?
@Pushing_Pixels
@Pushing_Pixels Жыл бұрын
In this case I think it's pretty clearly malice. The stupidity is in the arrogance.
@GrimReader
@GrimReader Жыл бұрын
In the case of Peterson he had one point had the intelligence to become a doctor and Mogg despite being a loathsome hollow child of aristocracy is still cited to this day in law school in the UK when it comes to constitutional law. Shapiro was a child prodigy which is just another way of saying he never grew out of a age which he never was.
@bydlokun
@bydlokun 10 ай бұрын
It is two sides of a coin
@gamewalker1584
@gamewalker1584 Жыл бұрын
I am not even a "leftist" but the fact that these people use them as some sort of Boogeyman is just unbearably cringy to me
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher Жыл бұрын
Are you a SOCIALIST? 🤔
@pythondrink
@pythondrink Жыл бұрын
@@TheWorldTeacher that's relevant bcoz?
@d4mdcykey
@d4mdcykey Жыл бұрын
@@TheWorldTeacher ~ Are you a Satanist?
@uninspired3583
@uninspired3583 Жыл бұрын
@@TheWorldTeacher tell us world teacher, how many worlds have you taught?
@richardfurness7556
@richardfurness7556 Жыл бұрын
It's ironic that so many people who believe they're taking part in modern, sophisticated discourse are every bit as susceptible to primitive instincts such as tribalism as their forebears hundreds or even thousands of years ago.
@polarbear4612
@polarbear4612 Жыл бұрын
Shapiro is the King of the Strawman. Beating down silly arguments made by almost no one (nutpicking) is how he made his reputation.
@humanbeing1754
@humanbeing1754 Жыл бұрын
Queen* Stop being tr@nsphobic, ben shapiro is a woman in a man's body.
@ahuramazda32
@ahuramazda32 Жыл бұрын
Nutpicking…lol
@markk_g
@markk_g Жыл бұрын
Gender study is pseudo science.
@benforrest8590
@benforrest8590 Жыл бұрын
yeah, but his wife is a doctor.
@airstuck3929
@airstuck3929 Жыл бұрын
@@benforrest8590 so? Xd
@tonedowne
@tonedowne Жыл бұрын
Ben is the fallacy guy, he absolutely depends on them to make his points.
@ohheyemmi
@ohheyemmi Жыл бұрын
He likes to start his sentences with "Lets say" and then make up an argument he can refute. Watch any of those "ben DESTROYS college liberal" vids. You cant unsee it once you see it.
@jaradshaw4723
@jaradshaw4723 Жыл бұрын
As apose to you who relies on character attacks to make points?
@tonedowne
@tonedowne Жыл бұрын
@@jaradshaw4723 yeah, apart from the fact that I didn’t. For all I know he is a warm and generous human being, doesn’t change the fact that he relies on logical fallacies to make his points.
@tmcd5049
@tmcd5049 Жыл бұрын
@@jaradshaw4723 character attacks involve an attack on the character of a person. These people have only attacked his base methods. Stop straw-manning.
@muntedewok
@muntedewok Жыл бұрын
Much like Trump who deliberately presses fallacies as fact in order to try overwhelm people into believing his bullshit. Shapiro appears to be far more intelligent than Trump however just as disingenuous in his blatant dishonesty
@2BachShakur
@2BachShakur Жыл бұрын
“Facts don’t care about your feelings.” -Grown man that believes in the invisible man in the sky
@bccc4555
@bccc4555 Жыл бұрын
i am an atheist, but wouldn't you agree that this kind of remarks, such as yours, are completly against the point of this videos ? Reducing religious beliefs to "believing in the invisible man in the sky" is a strawman fallacy.
@lieutenantlettuce7726
@lieutenantlettuce7726 Жыл бұрын
@@bccc4555 that's a fair point I think a better criticism towards him is the fact that he says "facts don't care about your feelings" yet he openly admitted to basing his arguments off his faith
@bccc4555
@bccc4555 Жыл бұрын
@@lieutenantlettuce7726 don't take me wrong, i completly agree with you. To me Shapiro's intellectual dishonesty is either comical or sickening, depending on who his target is, i just don't think that countering fallacies with fallacies is a good course of action in general.
@xensonar9652
@xensonar9652 Жыл бұрын
@@bccc4555 An invisible man in the sky is barely a strawman of a non-physical being in the heavens.
@bccc4555
@bccc4555 Жыл бұрын
@@xensonar9652 as barely as it is, it is an oversimplification of concepts that makes it sound ridicolous. It is ridicolous but in very different philosophical and scientific ways than just "believing in an invisible man in the sky" ridicolous.
@serversurfer6169
@serversurfer6169 Жыл бұрын
"Being a religious believer is a consistent struggle with the logic of the universe." He _almost_ gets it. 😜
@korpen2858
@korpen2858 Жыл бұрын
That was a good one for sure
@innocentbystander6620
@innocentbystander6620 Жыл бұрын
A constant struggle with reality (M. Python)
@cbl6520
@cbl6520 Жыл бұрын
By that logic, atheism is a constant struggle with the moral relevance of the universe. I can play that game to.
@jonassamuelle339
@jonassamuelle339 Жыл бұрын
The defense rests.
@Killerbee4712
@Killerbee4712 Жыл бұрын
@@cbl6520 You do not need religion to have moral relevance, or just morality in general. Fight me, I'm very bored.
@Scroteydada
@Scroteydada Жыл бұрын
Ben is the poster boy of the appeal to emotion fallacy. If anyone tries to use his arguments in real life the response would be "quit whining".
@jnorris0712
@jnorris0712 Жыл бұрын
You missed the entire point.
@Daz19
@Daz19 Жыл бұрын
He's also the poster boy for the gish gallop.
@rocknrollanp
@rocknrollanp Жыл бұрын
Well put! 👏🏻
@neonboom6121
@neonboom6121 Жыл бұрын
@@jnorris0712 he's a fallacy king, cope
@GameTimeWhy
@GameTimeWhy Жыл бұрын
@@jnorris0712 what point?
@oceanmachine420
@oceanmachine420 Жыл бұрын
"Shapiro monetizes your insecurities" is a really good quote. I'm gonna appropriate that into my language now whenever I talk about any of these machiavellian hacks
@g.lether7973
@g.lether7973 Жыл бұрын
It’s sadly how the world spins. With social media we’ve been hardwired to prioritise what makes us feel emotionally validated over what is actually good food for thought.
@ragewinninethousand4140
@ragewinninethousand4140 Жыл бұрын
Putting the fallacy on screen everytime you talk about them is brilliant
@ragewinninethousand4140
@ragewinninethousand4140 Жыл бұрын
@@Perroden wut ?
@Lordidude
@Lordidude Жыл бұрын
@Perroden SPARTAN B-312 you watched a 15min video explaining fallacies and still do not understand them? Why are you so resistant to learning?
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp Жыл бұрын
That last bit of the ad was super telling: "You can look things up yourself, or you can just listen to what I want to tell you"
@phileas007
@phileas007 Жыл бұрын
I'm getting Molyneux vibes from this
@richardfurness7556
@richardfurness7556 Жыл бұрын
"Once we're convinced of absurdities we're more likely to commit atrocities." I'm keeping that.
@ronaldreagan5981
@ronaldreagan5981 Жыл бұрын
I'm seeing a vision: it's a bunch of letters that make no sense. A n t a f a h. Or something like that.
@markk_g
@markk_g Жыл бұрын
That’s why leftist activists are burning down cities, looting, rioting, robbing en masse, and screaming over their opponents. Because they’ve been convinced of absurd leftist delusional doctrines of resentment, envy, and identity politics. Pathetic
@supernoctifer6469
@supernoctifer6469 Жыл бұрын
Damn it’s almost like it can also explain why people kill and oppress in the name of their religion.
@markk_g
@markk_g Жыл бұрын
@@supernoctifer6469 more people were murdered in the name of leftist ideology during the 20th century than the world wars and Nazis combined. Stfu
@ronaldreagan5981
@ronaldreagan5981 Жыл бұрын
@@supernoctifer6469 you mean Muslims? Yeah, that's pretty normal.
@furusaogoge
@furusaogoge Жыл бұрын
As a Christian, I'm so glad I found this video! Great work! I especially appreciate you remaining positive.
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
He's spouts nonsense to try and desperately make Ben Shapiro look bad.
@k_speedfire
@k_speedfire Жыл бұрын
@@Perroden im not suprised ben shapiro fan cant understand basic logic falacies even if they are literally showed, proved and explained to him lmao
@Lasair517
@Lasair517 Жыл бұрын
@@Perroden If that is the case, please take at least one example in this video where RR shows how Ben is committing a logical fallacy, and explain why RR is mistaken, bonus points if you can manage to do this without insulting anyone.
@EvelinaNinudottir
@EvelinaNinudottir Жыл бұрын
@@Perroden What nonsense? And how is he making Shapiro look bad? Criticism is constructive and valuable to our society.
@No-cg9kj
@No-cg9kj Жыл бұрын
@@Perroden sorry that something as simple as logical fallacies is too complex for you. No wonder you need an emotional twit like Ben to tell you what to think lol.
@brianmatthewthomas
@brianmatthewthomas Жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping calm. I hear it and see what he's doing and my immediate internal response is to yell back at the disingenuousness of the rhetoric. He's so slick about it and he goes so fast it takes twice as long to untangle
@dhayes907
@dhayes907 Жыл бұрын
The national high school debate organization (I don't know what they are called) had to shut down that strategy.
@Pushing_Pixels
@Pushing_Pixels Жыл бұрын
@@dhayes907 I can just imagine all the Ben Shapiro wannabes trying to win through sheer volume of speech.
@MonkeyDIvan
@MonkeyDIvan Жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro is the teenager's idea of what an intellectual looks like.
@lancewalker2595
@lancewalker2595 Жыл бұрын
And what would you say an adult's idea is of what an "intellectual" looks like?
@craigdixon2062
@craigdixon2062 Жыл бұрын
That’s why he spends most of his time browbeating young college students.
@MonkeyDIvan
@MonkeyDIvan Жыл бұрын
@@lancewalker2595 Noam Chomsky, Yanis Varoufakis, Richard Wolff, Slavoj Žižek, Sam Seder, Sam Harris (in my personal opinion).
@lancewalker2595
@lancewalker2595 Жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyDIvan Thomas Sowell wouldn't object to your list, he wrote a whole book about it; what about this list: Adam Smith, Friedrich Nietzsche, JRR Tolkien, and Camille Paglia?
@MonkeyDIvan
@MonkeyDIvan Жыл бұрын
@@lancewalker2595 Please do not ever mention to name Thomas Sowell again-it is enough to make a man sick. I'm not familiar with Adam Smith & Camille Paglia, Nietzsche I can agree on, and I wouldn't particularly place Tolkien within the category of intellectuals, though he is, without question, one of the most accomplished an esteemed fiction writers of modern times.
@tuschman168
@tuschman168 Жыл бұрын
0:51 "Don't read books. Listen to me instead." ...He did not just flat out say that! Holy hell! Red flag right out of the gate.
@MrSeedi76
@MrSeedi76 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. So instead of reading "Narrative economics" by nobel prize winner Robert Shiller who thoroughly debunks trickle down economics, I'll rather let Ben explain to me how the rich "pay their fair share of taxes", lol.
@GameTimeWhy
@GameTimeWhy Жыл бұрын
Weird how he says things like this but his fans will rationalize it away about how we are misinterpreting him.
@GameTimeWhy
@GameTimeWhy Жыл бұрын
@闘将ダイモス it's always the same with JP fans too. If you need apologists to reinterpret every single thing you say, you are a terrible communicator.
@malihareza4754
@malihareza4754 Жыл бұрын
He literally wants to do our thinking for us. What a saint!
@Dan16673
@Dan16673 Жыл бұрын
@@MrSeedi76 don't like shiller at all but wouldn't trust Shapiro
@tom1644x
@tom1644x 8 ай бұрын
If life always won "over and over and over again," I would expect life to exist on the other planets, I would expect many more stars to have habitable planets. Instead, we live on a tiny island of life in a universe of mostly inhospitable space.
@andrewbowenssylvanianfamilies
@andrewbowenssylvanianfamilies Жыл бұрын
I really liked your message at the end. I live in Brazil, and over the past 4 years under the presidency of Bolsonaro, there has been stupid arguments like Ben Sharpiro’s being made to young adults that make them blind to different opinions, and as an English teacher here, I am always striving to undo the damage of the doctrines that they are taught.
@MsTMarie83
@MsTMarie83 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Sounds so familiar. America is dealing with the same issues.. I dont understand how the money is worth it for these types to spread their hateful ignorant rhetoric, specifically targeting our young men or people back from military & veterans... Our fbi rang the alarm during frump 45 presidency but he made sure it stayed quiet & kept claiming "what about antifa" arguments.. now we have a fraction of young men so disillusioned they practically seem to hate our country now.. some vow loyalty to frump45.. its really scary & disturbing to witness. Andrew tate, Steven crowder, Ben shabibo, they are just lazy conmen, their target audience is half their age & so niave & they know it. Hope all is well in your country now that bolsanaro took off for Florida, he will fit in good there with desantis & trump 😆
@MsTMarie83
@MsTMarie83 Жыл бұрын
Aaron brown is a very funny comedian that covers Ben shapiro bs alot! Might be a good person to have some of young men watch. He keeps it funny & points out how ridiculous his arguments are.
@user-qg5jw1kb3r
@user-qg5jw1kb3r Жыл бұрын
It's the same in my country too 😭. The prime minister and his crony businessmen friends & donors have bought up all the news channels and publications. Everything is so biased and we have to listen to news anchors making stupid arguments like Ben Shapiro does to defend everything the govt does no matter how harmful it is for the economy, environment & society. I'm sick of it!
@andrewbowenssylvanianfamilies
@andrewbowenssylvanianfamilies Жыл бұрын
@@user-qg5jw1kb3r Do you come from the UK then, or is it another country?
@user-qg5jw1kb3r
@user-qg5jw1kb3r Жыл бұрын
@@andrewbowenssylvanianfamilies No I live in India. Honestly this phenomenon has been going here since 2014 over here (since modi took over). Any criticism is painted as being 'unpatriotic'. They have an army of blind supporters, trolls and bots constantly arguing and defending him. Thankfully the popular support he once had is diminishing now, but still it's annoying to see the indian news channels and the comment sections filled with self praise by his minions. In the west they divide people on the basis of race & class i think, but over here it's mostly based on religion, caste and language. They often use patriotism to defend their stupid decisions. Instead of discussing govt policies, they discuss and debate dumb stuff on the news. This ultra focus on national pride and keeping viewers riled up with fake news is really destroying the country. I've given up hope. It's much harder in third world countries like mine with higher levels of poverty & corruption to deal with the global recession and cost of living crisis. Luckily I don't face any economic hardships, but I can't ignore the destruction of society carried out by these extreme right wing politics. Sorry for the long post, I'm just venting my frustration 😩.
@klodius8588
@klodius8588 Жыл бұрын
Great content. Thank you and here is a small donation for your sacrifice of taking the time to listen to Shapiro.😊🤟
@justinfarmer6241
@justinfarmer6241 Жыл бұрын
That’s a sacrifice no one should have to make 😂
@charliekowittmusic
@charliekowittmusic Жыл бұрын
Dudes gonna have to set his daily life to 1.25x speed just to feel okay again 😭
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 Жыл бұрын
Theism is an emotional enterprise. Faith is a feeling. And as Ben is prone to remind us, facts don't care about your feelings.
@GameTimeWhy
@GameTimeWhy Жыл бұрын
He seems to think it's the opposite for him though.
@aidan-ator7844
@aidan-ator7844 Жыл бұрын
ok.🤓
@neonboom6121
@neonboom6121 Жыл бұрын
@@aidan-ator7844 go away troll
@damonhicks969
@damonhicks969 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the alt-reich loves to always spout “facts don’t care about your feelings” but one thing you have to learn is that with them, every accusation is a confession. What they are really saying is, “My feelings don’t care about your facts!” They are never persuaded by facts because they were indoctrinated to resist facts in favor of biblical beliefs. You have to get them to trust facts again before you can steer them away their delusional indoctrination.
@pansepot1490
@pansepot1490 Жыл бұрын
Ben’s feelings don’t care about facts.
@a.p.2019
@a.p.2019 Жыл бұрын
I sent this to my father who is more or less an atheist BUT has fallen down the Shapiro rabbit hole. Your last message to family brought tears to my eyes. I hope he hears it. Thank you for saying it.
@danielcox3983
@danielcox3983 4 күн бұрын
Update?
@rileyhogan5196
@rileyhogan5196 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I love how honorably you present the argument AND take time to give some honest empathy and respect. You, sir, get a SUB.
@98Mikemaster
@98Mikemaster Жыл бұрын
The worst part is, I feel like most people "not believing in god because they experienced too much personal pain" were actually christians letting go of their beliefs, not the typical atheist.
@bellezavudd
@bellezavudd Жыл бұрын
It probably depends on the country , as the USA, for example, with the largest evangelical population in the world, is vastly more religious than say England. So here, much more atheists are ex-believers. At the same time personal pain is a entirely valid reason to question religious dogma and something way to many theists ignore again and again because theyre conned into believing " its all part of God's plan."
@Melesniannon
@Melesniannon Жыл бұрын
The worst part is the *implication* of that statement: that irrespective of your harmful experiences nobody is allowed to reconsider the existence of a loving benevolent omnipotent deity. If negative experiences aren't allowed to count against the existence of a deity supposedly defined as benevolent, omnipotent and omniscient, the implication is that this harm is somehow good for you. Ben Shapiro is indirectly advocating people ought to be masochists in order to retain their faith. This is why Christianity is frequently seen as a religion of suffering.
@carlchristianlindalen9311
@carlchristianlindalen9311 Жыл бұрын
Religious interlocutors often start with belief in god as the default state. If we look at their arguments from that lens, where all atheists have reasoned their way out of the default position, it's easy to see why they misunderstand the atheist state of mind.
@Melesniannon
@Melesniannon Жыл бұрын
@@carlchristianlindalen9311 This is absolutely true. We should also not forget that many of these theists have never believed otherwise, at least insofar as they can remember. Most religious people grow up with it, having it spooned into them by their parents, and reinforced by their environment. They have no concept of what it means to think like an atheist, and their religion is so interwoven with their personality that changing it changes who they fundamentally are. This even holds true when their behaviour is not necessarily a reflection of their beliefs, they just never let go of the core concept. Like changes in personality, to them, becoming an atheist necessarily comes from outside factors that force someone to change. And that's how we end up with the "angry at God" line.
@SkilledTadpole
@SkilledTadpole Жыл бұрын
@@carlchristianlindalen9311 this is reflected in the historical use of the term atheist, once meaning "one who believes no gods exist". The more recent definition of "one who does not believe a god or gods exist" is one that has only *just* escaped the proposition that the existence of a god is assumed to be true unless proven otherwise.
@RashidMBey
@RashidMBey Жыл бұрын
0:52 I love that Ben flatly pitches to his audience two options: 1.) Study and read scholarly articles from experts and appreciate the well sourced essays that explicate the argument 2.) Listen to Ben destroy the positions his audience doesn't know that leftists and atheists don't generally have
@bellezavudd
@bellezavudd Жыл бұрын
Shows hes not an educator, but instead a cult fogure.
@EbonyPope
@EbonyPope Жыл бұрын
Concerning religion yes. But it's not true that a lot of his positions do make sense. And no I'm not a fanboy.
@eronpowell6008
@eronpowell6008 Жыл бұрын
I know it’s so silly. He literally straight up said don’t do the research on your own- just trust me bro. 😂
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas Жыл бұрын
@@EbonyPope more by luck than judgement imho. considering all the other BS that rolls around inside his head.
@EbonyPope
@EbonyPope Жыл бұрын
@@HarryNicNicholas I like his interviews. I think a lot of marketing persona but I appreciate him as a debater. Not always but most of the time.
@b_dawg_17
@b_dawg_17 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, as always. I particularly enjoy your dissection of the rhetoric and its consequences. Can't wait for the next one!
@NakeanWickliff
@NakeanWickliff Жыл бұрын
Immediately subscribed and ordered your card game. Thank you for the hard work. Thank you for being willing to speak up and do so so clearly,calmly, and without judgement.
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
Lol whats right is not promoting lies and calling truth lies.
@Doctor.T.46
@Doctor.T.46 Жыл бұрын
I love seeing Ben Shapiro corrected thank you Stephen.
@Kvothe3
@Kvothe3 Жыл бұрын
Search for, some more news Ben Shapiro. You're welcome
@Purpleturtlehurtler
@Purpleturtlehurtler Жыл бұрын
@@Kvothe3 Cody Showdy is the GOAT.
@lovesjersey
@lovesjersey Жыл бұрын
Narrator: "But Ben HADN'T done the work."
@toddhensley880
@toddhensley880 Жыл бұрын
I heard that in Morgan Freeman’s voice.
@joeymac4302
@joeymac4302 Жыл бұрын
@@toddhensley880 I heard Ron Howard from Arrested Development, myself. I'll try again with Morgan Freeman, to see if I like it better.
@jakoporeeno4654
@jakoporeeno4654 Жыл бұрын
"It was at this moment that Ben knew... he fucked up"
@FreeTimeAdventures
@FreeTimeAdventures Жыл бұрын
First video I've seen from this channel in my feed, really good content and well thought out. I appreciated the insights and explanation, good work.
@salwillis3529
@salwillis3529 Жыл бұрын
YES! More of this please 😁 This was sooo well done! 👏
@mkklassicmk3895
@mkklassicmk3895 Жыл бұрын
The stupidity of people who would listen to a lawyer on any topic other than law over a person who has dedicated a significant portion of their life to the research and study of that topic is simply mind blowing.
@DundG
@DundG Жыл бұрын
I think it just never crosses their mind that there are better options. They just see him"destroy" his oponents, fall for his arguments and think he knows it, since it is the smartest they ever heard.
@mkklassicmk3895
@mkklassicmk3895 Жыл бұрын
Wow, because I find that guy to not even be smart enough to do that. I would shred him in a debate. I have been arguing with an actual genius since i was a kid so i am a pro at this point. Lol
@page8301
@page8301 Жыл бұрын
@@mkklassicmk3895 Benny boi got destroyed by Andrew Neil who was not even debating him, just interviewing.
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 Жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro keeps popping up in my recommended list. I *believe*, that in the Shapiro/Petersen cottage industry, Shapiro is one-stop-shopping for pwning libs. Petersen, on the other hand, teaches you how to present the illusion of broad and deep research through the liberal use of word salad.
@Ues2DC
@Ues2DC Жыл бұрын
@@mkklassicmk3895 This is why he and his ilk avoid debates with anyone that can counter him.
@mikechang6737
@mikechang6737 Жыл бұрын
The irony to imply: 'These people try to oversimplify these complex issues and buy so easily into what the left is selling' Then immediately say: 'dont be the person that spends years researching and reading books to understand the complexities of these issues, just watch me for 15 minutes and know more' 👌👏
@SapphireVirgo
@SapphireVirgo Жыл бұрын
Yup what's more alarming when he says shit like that is that he claims to want people to do the research but in the same breath he goes dont do that listen to me tell you ,"facts" that I found online that I can misrepresent to fuel my agenda .
@mikechang6737
@mikechang6737 Жыл бұрын
@@SapphireVirgo When you commit about 6 fallacies in the first 3 lines of argument, are disingenuous in every possible way, and flat out lie constantly... You can't exactly have ur listeners doing unbiased decent research. You kinda need them to stick to ur information bubble. Its doesn't take a philosophy and physics grad to realize how dishonest Ben is being here. All it requires is some very basic knowledge to know how badly he is misrepresenting the facts... thats too much for Ben's audience.
@SapphireVirgo
@SapphireVirgo Жыл бұрын
@@mikechang6737 couldn't agree with you more , I mean ben is huge liar hes done it about multiple topics for years I don't trust that man .
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
Why are yall putting words in his mouth? He literally never said that.
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
@@SapphireVirgo except he n3ver has. No one in this 3ntire comment section for this channel knows anything about Ben Shapiro and clearly just hate facts.
@Certago
@Certago Жыл бұрын
Nice work, love your analysis and articulation of the arguments.
@IsThisHandleTaken
@IsThisHandleTaken Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched one of your videos in a while and I must say, in addition to the great content I love the new branding! Very slick
@bottomline7923
@bottomline7923 Жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro, culture war queen..
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher Жыл бұрын
At least he doesn't MURDER poor, innocent, unborn human beings, Silliest of My Silly Sinful Slaves. :)
@creepyunicornwithlazers3594
@creepyunicornwithlazers3594 Жыл бұрын
@@TheWorldTeacher Is that the only thing you can say to deflect? Lets leave that issue aside for the moment, any other comments you would like to make defending your precious shapiro based on the issues raised in the video?
@creepyunicornwithlazers3594
@creepyunicornwithlazers3594 Жыл бұрын
@C L That is unfortunately not the dumbest comment I've seen on the internet today, but its quite close.
@TheDashingRogue
@TheDashingRogue Жыл бұрын
More like a culture war profiteer
@atheistboomer7700
@atheistboomer7700 Жыл бұрын
Did any else hear Ben say that spending his life make up stuff to make his universe appear to have some meaning, was a better than spending it searching for the truth?
@Narutoesret
@Narutoesret Жыл бұрын
And that, my friend, is another straw man
@atheistboomer7700
@atheistboomer7700 Жыл бұрын
@@Narutoesret well I’m not sure why Ben would want to strawman, his own argument, but at least you heard it as well.
@shiri2010
@shiri2010 Жыл бұрын
As usual, I thoroughly enjoyed the video. Stephen is a wonderful teacher! I find that every response is mind provoking, which sharpens my mind and logical thinking. Thanks Stephen 😊
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
By promoting lies?
@TheTpointer
@TheTpointer Жыл бұрын
After months of seeing you in my inbox, but don’t watching the video, I final clicked again and I am reminded why I subscribed kn the first place! Amazing worl
@farrex0
@farrex0 Жыл бұрын
0:55 If Ben genuinely thinks you can become an expert on any topic, by listening to him for 15 minutes or less... It shows how little he actually knows about these topics, really. Even if you have the best orator, teacher and researcher ever giving the class, fifteen minutes is barely enough time to become familiarized to any topic, let alone become an expert. This is either a reflection of how simple these topics are, that you can cover them in fifteen minutes or less... or it is a reflection, of how little Ben knows of these topics and how arrogant he really is.
@DundG
@DundG Жыл бұрын
You forgot the other possibilities: 1.He knows exactly how complicated these issues are, and intentionally claims them to be easy so gullible people hear his bullshit and pay to sray subscribed. So he just want to part fools from their money 2 to n)Or every possible degree betwen the two option, some he don't knkw, some he knows to be complicated and chooses to fool the bigger fool. Making him a greedy grifter.
@page8301
@page8301 Жыл бұрын
Ben knows nothing on any topic outside the law. How good he is as a lawyer I cannot say maybe an actual lawyer would be able to tell.
@farrex0
@farrex0 Жыл бұрын
@@DundG Oh yeah, those two are quite likely as well. It could also be a combination of several of these. Or a case by case scenario.
@aralornwolf3140
@aralornwolf3140 Жыл бұрын
Or... Ben is just trying to copy his best friend Prager...
@aralornwolf3140
@aralornwolf3140 Жыл бұрын
@@page8301 , He doesn't even know law, he hasn't kept up to the current standards... nor does he care what the laws say. He has his religion and when it conflicts with laws, his religion is correct.
@Haiswarya.s
@Haiswarya.s Жыл бұрын
I might not be able to articulate this properly, but I just wanted to say I'm grateful that you mentioned the drift/ tension and/or hurt this kind of rhetoric causes between atheistic and theistic loved ones. I'm not comfortable sharing more but I just wanted to say that I appreciate what you said.💙
@briefcasemanx
@briefcasemanx Жыл бұрын
The intro is sick!!!!! Is this new? I don't remember this intro in the past. How you kinda trailed off and left us with a thought as the music came in was PERFECT.
@robh3261
@robh3261 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I sincerely appreciated you treating Theists and their views with respect. As someone who doesn't believe in God but was raised and schooled as a Catholic, I still show respect to those of faith and their institutions (regardless of what religion it is). It is refreshing to see a debate on this issue while still showing respect to the other side.
@dhayes907
@dhayes907 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen genetically modified skeptic? I'm not trying to convert you to atheism or anything, but he lays out some great ideas for atheists and theists to get along respectfully.
@austinluther5825
@austinluther5825 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I'm an atheist, but I don't look down on believers by default. I'll criticize someone who is using their faith as an excuse to hurt or exclude others, but that's a problem I have with their actions and not their faith. I used to work at a laboratory where most of the staff were Hindu. I asked questions about their practices, but I didn't call them ridiculous for fasting out of respect for Shiva.
@raresmircea
@raresmircea Жыл бұрын
There’s nothing cringier than BS’ confidence
@pauligrossinoz
@pauligrossinoz Жыл бұрын
Just asking: Does *BS* refer to *Bull Shyte,* or *Ben Shapiro?* ... or ... have I just committed the False Dichotomy fallacy? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@profpurge
@profpurge Жыл бұрын
What about his voice?
@asator0505
@asator0505 Жыл бұрын
@@profpurge well, he cant help his voice
@jamesmaybrick2001
@jamesmaybrick2001 Жыл бұрын
@@pauligrossinoz Distinction without a difference ;)
@beans1557
@beans1557 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god- his initials are literally Bs, respect to rational people with those initials, but with Ben, it’s just icing on the cake
@zuccman968
@zuccman968 Жыл бұрын
First video i have seen from this channel. Wow, was this well done🔥🔥
@josephinecarter1143
@josephinecarter1143 Жыл бұрын
First video of yours I have seen, Loved the content! Well thought out and articulated!
@d4rk4x3l3
@d4rk4x3l3 Жыл бұрын
that quote from Hitchens about toys resonates so much with me. Automatic like.
@Allan512
@Allan512 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to comment that the quality of your videos has drastically improved recently, love it!
@rationalityrules
@rationalityrules Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the complement, cheers.
@cthoadmin7458
@cthoadmin7458 Жыл бұрын
they always have been good.
@ronaldreagan5981
@ronaldreagan5981 Жыл бұрын
​@@rationalityrules I think he meant from cat shit to dog shit.
@pseudoname3159
@pseudoname3159 Жыл бұрын
It seems Ben's feelings don't care about facts.
@zhengfuukusheng9238
@zhengfuukusheng9238 Жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro is, IMHO, along with Jordan Peterson, one of the world's greatest pseudo-intellectuals
@lancewalker2595
@lancewalker2595 Жыл бұрын
What does it mean to be an "intellectual"?
@zhengfuukusheng9238
@zhengfuukusheng9238 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm. That sounds like something a pseudo-intellectual might ask. Almost worthy of the great JP himself
@lancewalker2595
@lancewalker2595 Жыл бұрын
@@zhengfuukusheng9238 My apologies, you're absolutely right, true intellectuals always neglect to define the terms they use to represent their intellectual beliefs; a true intellectual understands that a word used to describe a thing is no mere symbolic representation of a thing, the intellectual understands that reality itself is only "real" because humans have defined the word "real" in the dictionary. Like the God of Genesis, intellectuals bring all things into being by uttering the words from which all objects derive their reality and objectivity.
@drackoni-han13
@drackoni-han13 Жыл бұрын
@@lancewalker2595 Why did you ask what it means to be an intellectual, when you just proved you already have the definition? Are you trying to be a smart-arse?
@zhengfuukusheng9238
@zhengfuukusheng9238 Жыл бұрын
@@drackoni-han13 Perhaps he thought to look up the definition after his original question. But one has to wonder, why, when you want to know the definition of something, would you ask it on a comment trail? Why not look it up online directly. It only takes a few seconds
@JohnStopman
@JohnStopman Жыл бұрын
16:54 Lots of churches in my country (The Netherlands) are being turned into private homes, workshops, museums, or re-fit to house the mentally challenged 🙂
@rolfj953
@rolfj953 Жыл бұрын
As a church they where already housing mentally challenged I think :)
@Melesniannon
@Melesniannon Жыл бұрын
How does that last one qualify as repurposing? :P
@JohnStopman
@JohnStopman Жыл бұрын
@@Melesniannon hahaha, lol :p
@hhiippiittyy
@hhiippiittyy Жыл бұрын
@@Melesniannon It's open 24/7 and pays taxes. Other than that.... ?
@Sarah-re7cg
@Sarah-re7cg Жыл бұрын
One of my majors is philosophy and I used to want to go into law. This constant flow of toxic sludge from right wing propaganda outlets has been so distressing to watch. It’s also been hurtful to watch how something that I hold in such high esteem is being bastardized by powerful corporate lobbyists to steamroll over human rights. I’m starting to seriously consider joining in the KZfaq community and I so, so so so appreciate the work you and channels like yours have been doing to counter all of this disinformation and misinformation.
@brunomachado9686
@brunomachado9686 Жыл бұрын
Why have I only discovered this channel today? Totally awesome video. And you seem like an awesome dude.
@siriusvoyager9271
@siriusvoyager9271 Жыл бұрын
The main thing to know about Ben Shapiro, his goal isn’t to change minds. It’s to push people into the rabbit hole that they are already looking down
@rembrandt972ify
@rembrandt972ify Жыл бұрын
12:04 "I actually paid for this Ray Comfort level straw man." To quote the legendary P.T. Barnum, "There is one born every minute."
@linguisticlinguini
@linguisticlinguini 3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the way you handled your speaking in this video. Instead of spitting vitriol and being angry, you kept calm and pointed out the issues with the argument. Well done.
@AllrightIsee
@AllrightIsee Жыл бұрын
I have been a shapiro fan and now I am your fan also. I like hearing your calm and reasoned perspective against Bens presentations. Thanks for helping me hear a fuller picture so that I may decide for myself what to think based upon reason with as little bias as possible
@rationalityrules
@rationalityrules Жыл бұрын
You're most welcome. Best of luck on your journey, Allison.
@ytpanda398
@ytpanda398 Жыл бұрын
Why I watch these videos: 50% Stephen's hair and beard 50% Music that plays when a title card shows up
@winstonsmith5854
@winstonsmith5854 Жыл бұрын
Wow. You are very good at what you are doing. Thank you. ❤
@murderyoutubeworkersandceos
@murderyoutubeworkersandceos Жыл бұрын
>being a religious believer is the consistent struggle with logic Yeah, thats about right
@chesterfield9682
@chesterfield9682 Жыл бұрын
"Ben has done his research. We see him scrolling, and we hate it." Well played, Sir, well played. That part was wonderfully sarcastic, I loved everything about it and then you brought that joke... *chef's kiss* As for Ben Shapiro, I think he is short. That's it. I think he is short, and the thing that makes him short is his diminutive stature.
@Bannockburn111
@Bannockburn111 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I read the title for this video I had the happy though "This is going to be so good!" Stephen did not disappoint; his analysis was crystal clear, on point, and thoroughly entertaining. Looking forward to further analyses of Shapiro's rhetoric.
@asimplelife7026
@asimplelife7026 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video
@Reed5016
@Reed5016 Жыл бұрын
I’m in a similar position. The disrespect from people who are supposed to love us is difficult to get through, but understanding that you’re not alone helps. Realize that a lot of us are in the same boat, with family who pities at best and insults at worst for our religious (or lack thereof) beliefs.
@StellaMoon60
@StellaMoon60 Жыл бұрын
I love watching you. You are able to articulate things that I can't. I would love to see you debate Shapiro live, but I know he'd never agree to it, because your arguments are excellent, and his are sad and pathetic. I'm so glad I stumbled across your videos - you are truly brilliant.
@Dreaming-11
@Dreaming-11 Жыл бұрын
Ben "separating facts from fiction", that's the most ridiculous claim I heard in quiet sometime
@joeymac4302
@joeymac4302 Жыл бұрын
Well, no. He never suggested he would convince you with the separated facts. So that part of his description was technically accurate, from a sophist's point of view. That said, the fiction was compelling when said extremely fast in a nasally accent, lol.
@sarahallegra6239
@sarahallegra6239 Жыл бұрын
I’m very much looking forward to this whole series! Keep up the great work, friend!
@bpdrumstudio
@bpdrumstudio Жыл бұрын
The entire video is great in debunking and identifying his misrepresentations and I really enjoy the last few minutes it gets personal down to reality so thanks
@mystiquevening
@mystiquevening Жыл бұрын
I was a fundamentalist Christian who deeply believed in god despite being gang raped, suffering through childhood abuse of all sorts, especially physical and fear driven abuse, religious trauma, etc. None of those things kept me from believing in god, I knew he didn’t cause humans to do evil things even if they used his name to do so. The reason I left Christianity was because I studied the vast contradictions in scripture and realized there was no good excuse for these contradictions while also claiming the Bible was inspired and preserved by an omnipresent, omnibenevolent, omnipotent and omniscient being. It was written by men who wrote stories from myths, legends, lores and other religions. It is just as made up as every other religious doctrine out there.
@jameslooker4791
@jameslooker4791 Жыл бұрын
Overly condensing any argument risks reducing it to just bullet points, but Ben also manages to condescend at the same time.
@bobbobhouse312
@bobbobhouse312 Жыл бұрын
Pretty clean across the board Haven’t seen your content in a while but it’s for sure better than before
@Whorabl3
@Whorabl3 Жыл бұрын
Really great video, subbed and may even buy the cards!
@hansotto109
@hansotto109 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a fascinating takedown of an aspiring demagogue. Your presence and diligent work comfort me with optimism for the generations to come. I look forward to getting your hand for Christmas present to my family. Stay beautiful, brother!!!!
@alexbarcovsky4319
@alexbarcovsky4319 Жыл бұрын
Rergardless of what you think of Ben, I would KILL to have his confidence/arrogance for a single day. That must be so freeing thinking you are right about everything.
@pansepot1490
@pansepot1490 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I admit sometimes I envy people whose mind is unbothered by doubt.
@bellezavudd
@bellezavudd Жыл бұрын
Quickly consume a 6 pack of brew and a few grams of coke to get you there. Instant ignorance and arrogance. ✔
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 Жыл бұрын
Scams are not called "confidence tricks" for nothing. You don't need to have actual confidence to convince the mark, just be good enough at pretending you have it.
@alexbarcovsky4319
@alexbarcovsky4319 Жыл бұрын
@@Roxor128 I have never heard the term confidence trick tbh
@asator0505
@asator0505 Жыл бұрын
@@alexbarcovsky4319 that's where "con(fidence) man" or "conning" comes from
@avalon6467
@avalon6467 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant argument. Really enjoyed this. Straight to the point and you dont need a degree to follow it.
@ratpwn
@ratpwn Жыл бұрын
Ah. The voice of reason. Great video, sir. Your work is appreciated.
@twiggmister1
@twiggmister1 Жыл бұрын
Literally just finished another video of yours from 5 years ago, And felt a large desire for another new one to come by❤️😌 (Found you a week ago, have been allowing my ASD/ADHD to hyperfocus on your videos, like comfort food. Not that I am without disagreements haha. But it's not about agreeing:)
@KeithCooper-Albuquerque
@KeithCooper-Albuquerque Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as usual! I'm looking forward to more debunking!
@paulwheatland7306
@paulwheatland7306 Жыл бұрын
It also helps to speak in a slow calm manner, thank you and keep up the good work 👍
@Tutuljko
@Tutuljko Жыл бұрын
Your rebutal is, as you put it, breathtakingly absurd. I only scorn myself for not expressing my thoughts frequently enough so I have them ready in 'tweet' or 'one-liner' form for these kinds of comments. Maybe I'll start soon. Thanks for that.
@onclesam1463
@onclesam1463 Жыл бұрын
Shapiro doesn't even try to understand the positions of his opponents, which doesn't prevent him from lecturing us on the importance of intellectual honesty, of course.
@ronaldreagan5981
@ronaldreagan5981 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, trying to believe that a man can all of a sudden be a woman is something that can be quickly rejected. Unless you are a retard.
@TheFinav
@TheFinav Жыл бұрын
Love your work, man. Just bought your game. Merry Christmas.
@Marconius6
@Marconius6 Жыл бұрын
My favorite counter to the fine-tuning argument is "it's not fine tuned at all, the fuck are you talking about?"
@johnschmalbach8243
@johnschmalbach8243 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see you have evolved in your thinking of Ben and his arguments. I remember when you explicitly stated he wasn't one to use logical fallacies, earlier in the life of your channel. This video is far from the only time he does this.
@Fullyautomagic
@Fullyautomagic Жыл бұрын
What kind of relationship can you have with a being that is "apart form humans" and cannot be understood unless you are that being?
@JD-wu5pf
@JD-wu5pf Жыл бұрын
A deep, loving, and personal one. One where the being will cast you into a lake of fire if you touch yourself because he just loves you too much to stop you.
@pythondrink
@pythondrink Жыл бұрын
@@JD-wu5pf lol tnx for the laugh
@Vhlathanosh
@Vhlathanosh Жыл бұрын
@@JD-wu5pf 😂 😂
@kyaxar3609
@kyaxar3609 Жыл бұрын
@@JD-wu5pf why does "he" loves me ? Is he gay?🤣
@blanqui2040
@blanqui2040 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting because for people who are into spirituality but not religion, God or The Source or whatever you wanna name it, is not apart from humans; we all are already God. And these people are always way more compassionate and understanding than traditional, religious people
@anthonypc1
@anthonypc1 Жыл бұрын
I only wash my body with woke soap.
@gort5583
@gort5583 Жыл бұрын
To me the points you make that are the most important and significant are, firstly, how we are all constantly being herded into only two camps, two ideologies, two positions, two views, by all and sundry. There is, as you most correctly point out, a spectrum rather than just a dicotomy. I also appreciate your idea of giving your opponent or opposition, not so much respect, as respect must be earned not just given, but rather plain common courtesy not only because it is the right thing to do but also in order to garner any such courtesy in return. Without common courtesy there can be no hope of admission or acceptence of valid points or arguments and as such there could never be any agreement or compromise.
@ruhap9311
@ruhap9311 Жыл бұрын
Man, great job, 👍, it's cool watching you mature.
@francescoghizzo
@francescoghizzo Жыл бұрын
Rationality Rules, unfortunately in my country of birth there are a lot of pro Putin propagandists spouting pro russian propaganda. Given your experience in debunking crooks, could you publish a video debunking common pro russian talking points?
@freddan6fly
@freddan6fly Жыл бұрын
I recommend Anders Puck Nielsen, Combat Veteran Reacts, The Russian Dude/The Canadian Dude, Speak The Truth, Perun, Operator Starsky.
@MrDoomedtofail
@MrDoomedtofail Жыл бұрын
Just because it's propaganda doesn't necessarily mean it's false information. Why don't you try debunking it on your own?
@warswordx4536
@warswordx4536 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDoomedtofail Russian propaganda is overwhelmingly fake with respect to the other actors involved in the conflict.
@MrDoomedtofail
@MrDoomedtofail Жыл бұрын
@@warswordx4536 all war propaganda is overwhelmingly fake, it doesn't matter where it comes from. Please learn to think critically :)
@warswordx4536
@warswordx4536 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDoomedtofail i do, that's why I know that russian propaganda is more fake that anyone else in the conflict. You should inform yourself a little bit more, rather than just assuming that everyone is lying and call it a day. Your position is as stupid as someone that blindly believes everything a side say 100%.
@DavidHedderwick1976
@DavidHedderwick1976 Жыл бұрын
You should send Mr Shapiro a copy of Debunked!
@MarkLawsonY3K
@MarkLawsonY3K Жыл бұрын
Rationality Rules because of your clarity.... Sincere thanks
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