They are, it’s not often you see sets in movies have ceilings and in the shinning nearly every room of the overlook does and some of the rooms are huge.

I think about this film way too much, but my latest developing theory is that Kubrick's Jack is actually meant to be King. As in, King first made Jack in his own image in the novel, based on his own alcoholism struggles, and made Jack redemptive, sympathetic and kind of a tragic hero. But Kubrick reinterpreted it and made Jack into a rotten guy with evil lurking inside him from the get-go. This is why King was so upset. Kubrick is commenting on King with his changes to Jack. It bothered King so much that he had to go and make the more faithful 90s miniseries, with his own original version of Jack.

Kubrick simply took the idea and changed it. The same thing happened with Blade Runner. The book (Do Androids Dream if Electric Sheep?) was completely different. Also The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker and a few other Fleming Bond novels were completely re-imagined.

Have not seen The Shining in years so I could be wrong here, but doesn't the film pretty much imply that Jack has had some anger management problems before they go to the hotel? And his wife (can't remember the character name) certainly looks weak and scared before the axe starts swinging. The mysterious line "you've always been the caretaker" could imply that Jack always had it in him to kill his family.

King’s just jealous Kubrick took his book and made it exceptionally better than it was.

They were told this was A MASTERPIECE OF MODERN HORROR. What they saw was Jack Nicholson being too charismatic to be terrifying and Shelley Duvall too ridiculous being terrified. Once that expectation died down, people were able to rediscover it on its merits. This is why I don’t trust anyone’s opinions on a film when it first comes out. Too many factors interfere with a fair judgment. This movie is a prime example of that.

Yep. It’s not the first time that a film has been ridiculed on its initial release. Shawshank Redemption, Empire Strikes Back, Blade Runner and maybe half of all of Kubrick’s films.

Look at the critic rotten tomato score for The Joker. The same thing all over again.

@@cheesysped You mean Taxi Driver + King of Comedy + A guy in clown makeup.

Check out the 1st Golden Rasberry Awards. It's a complete joke. Some of the nominees for worst director were: Stanley Kubrick (for Shining obviously), Gordon Willis for Windows, William Friedkin for Cruising and Brian de Palma for Dressed to Kill. The worst picture nominees included: Xanadu, Cruising and Friday the 13th. Michael Caine was also a nominee for the worst actor that year, while Shelley Duvall was a nominee for worst actress for her role in The Shining. So yes, I think they were fucking insane.

Was this Kubricks choice?

Tom Linn Yes. I heard that it was also Kubrick’s choice to use the classical pieces that he gave gave to the composer Alex North as temp tracks to replace the actual scores written by him.

@Gregory Hill I'm reading the book right now.

@Gregory Hill i think it's also that ge pretty much had to change his mind to keep his reputation. being a paid critic requires that other critics respect you and if you don't have the same opinion as them then you're the oddball and heretic

I still have the dvd but you just beat me

Me too

Derek McCumber If you take into account HDR, 4K Blu-rays are WAY better than standard Blu-rays

VHS and the original dvd is fine. They actually are in 4:3 ratio, which was apparently how Kubrick intended you to see it. There are some scenes where candles or ceiling lights were cropped out of the image to turn it into a widescreen (1:85:1) image. Some fans claim that 40% of the image is cropped out of widescreen versions.

I can’t stand the female actress

Deathtrap is a fun movie. And yes it's true - the performances sell the whole thing. Caine, Reeve and Cannon are terrific.

Check out Rossatron as well. If I’m not mistaken they actually know each other

He would be super man

Or even Robin Williams.

I agree! Reading the book, I may imagine him or *Michael Moriarty*

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Even Eraserhead feels almost like a Charlie Chaplin film compared to The Shining. However it predates The Shining and was also Lynch's first feature. But I would say that Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive are two of the best Shining-like films. The first act of Lost Highway in particular, is right up there with The Shining, very similar psych-horror awesomeness.

Fun fact: while Kubrick was filming The Shining, he invited some of the crew over to dinner, then said, “Let me show you one of my favourite films.” And he showed them Eraserhead! They told Lynch soon after when he was filming The Elephant Man, and he was over the moon when he heard...

@@jonathanmelia very cool story, I also love how Empire Strikes Back and The Shining were being shot at the same studio, and Lucas and Kubrick would meet up. I especially find it fascinating because of the parallels between ESB and The Shining - talking to ghosts, objects moving by magic, slow motion vision sequences... and the Shine is kind of similar to the Force. I also think Lynch should have directed ROTJ! Lucas asked him but he turned it down. Lynch was a pretty big deal at that time, a hot young director. But then he made Dune instead which was a traumatic failure that he still doesn't want to talk about. That's actually why Eraserhead has sci-fi elements but post-Dune he totally expunged sci-fi from his style. Dune burnt him off it.

It's not a conspiracy ;)

I agree. The night scenes should have that blueish tone. Symbolizes it being extremely cold.

Kubrick framed all of his movies for 4:3 after 2001 a space oddessy. Ita because he realised his movies would eventually watched on cropped tellys and pan and scan was rubbish.

YES there is no difference between chopping off the sides, or chopping off the top and bottom. But these days we don't get the "formatted for your TV" warnings. :(

UHD is 4k bud, so if you do buy it you will be watching the 4k version.

There are tons of videos about the Shining. Just open your eyes mate.

I wouldn't call it a 'King flick' at all, pretty much nothing like the book. If you want to watch the king version, there is a tv mini series that follows the book closely, its shit.

The tiff theatre that is, not during the festival

Chris Londo you must not be a big horror genre fan

Ghost Face I did watch John Carpenter’s The Thing though.

I just rented it.

StudioSmith same

If i see ewan McGregor is in anything i tend to not bother. He's a bit of a turd magnet, or a walking bowel a producer of giant turds.