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Ending up on shattered eardrum.

First of all as someone with many years of martial arts and firearms training , I can tell you that anyone with firearms training will not be dumb enough to move to put the gun against st your head in grabbing range. A firearm is a distance weapon. I would be out of grabbing range , with the firearm pointed at your chest. Try using that head shift to move before getting shot

Also giving him what he wants is not always a good idea. Sometimes he will kill you anyway because he doesn t want to be testified against, doesn t want to leave witnesses behind. You never know. I guess it is a matter of gut feeling. What your instinct tells you to do.

My plan is to do everything in my power to prevent being put in this situation in the first place. Hermit life for me😁

The moment the guy can pull the trigger so close to your head AND ear, you're done. The explosion will make you almost faint as well as you're probably deaf then, at least on the side the gun was shooting.

This is what happens when you train for movie scenarios 🤦‍♂️

Works or not, please give these guys an applause for trying to help people. At least they gave us something to think about, instead of being completely unprepared, when facing danger.

Standing tow to tie helps in all fighting. But I’ve had guys move first and I’ve caught their hands or hit them first. Natural talent. Better to get them talking. If they are talking they generally won’t see you move so easily. They are talking the you disarm.

The first two seconds sums it all up. Don't be an idiot and try to "disarm" someone pointing a gun at you. No one worth their salt will hold a gun within reach for you to grab.

1st of all Kudos for showing a two handed grip. Every other video Ive see has been 1 handed grip with the arm extended. Coincidentally a friend of mine who’s highly trained in defensive firearms & background in Krav Maga (my background is American Kenpo) and I were practicing gun disarms today. We worked on 1 &2 handed gun holds. I used a modified kenpo technique which woked against 1 hand but against2 handed grip we wound up in the exact body manipulation scenario. However, when I stepped in with the rt leg (gettingout of line of fire) while trapping the gun with only my left hand while using my right hand to deliver an upward palm strike to his left mandible and continued the motion of my my right hand still couldn’t disarm him. So I struck him w a right back fist to his right mandible. And brought back to gun and was able to to disarm. He was trying to pull the gun away and use an arm bar as in your scenario but my strikes prevented him from doing so. Notes: 1) For safety reasons my strikes were light contact but his attempts to disarm me and execute his armbar were at full power. My disarm would likely be easier if I used full force. 2 All of the other disarms against 1 handed grips failed against 2 handed grips. with some resulting in the defender being shot even though he got initially got out of the line of fire. 3. Our scenario was an experienced gunman holding the gun w 2 hands close to his chest (but w in reach) and pointed to the defenders chest. AgIn, excellent video! I look forward to trying your technique as well other techniques with w the gun aimed the head!

Это всё херня..Если стрелок уверен, что будет стрелять, никогда к голове ствол не подставит...А выстрелит не подходя к жертве...

This was good. There's a technique in close dropping straight down. Hands shoot up under the wrists of the attacker at the same time. Those side movements trigger the shooter reflexes.

the head weaving, like evading a punch, from the muzzle might work. judging from the impact sound of the hammer/striker. The impact means the hammer/striker strike the primer of the cartridge burning the gunpowder inside that pushes the bullet moving through the barrel out from the gun. That will take milli seconds to happens. by the time the bullet leaves the barrel, the head, moving out in milli seconds, is already out also from the line of impact, the head,

When I was in the police academy, the disarm method we trained for was similar. Although, it trapped the assailant's finger inside the trigger guard. We were told to literally rip the firearm out of the assailant's hand, resulting in at least removing the skin from the trigger finger ("degloving"), if not severing the finger altogether. That's one way to get an asshole's attention.

So what happens if the gun is 2-3 feet away? too far to reach out and his reaction time is better. How do you combat that? Most holdups tend to be from a distance.

Okay I'm confused. Everything makes sense untill the end. Is this the full video? Disarm at end should be left hand on barrel, right hand on back triangle. If it's held by two hands you should use 3 points of contact by also clamping with the closest arm. Easy to disarm then

Good, really good moves. May i suggest taking that gun from attacker with breaking off finger (not in training tbh)? That was just one thing that blew my mind when I went to Japanese Ju Jutsu. To be honest JJJ broke me like a regular Karate guy, but in the good way :) Also need to say that our sensei was black belt in Karate, did some Judo and also had some some years in boxing (after loosing to a boxer as a black belt). So that was some crazy stuff we learned to combine JJJ with some boxing and other stuff.

I appreciate that you are thinking aboit these problems, but seriously... grabbing a pistol like thst will rip apart your hand. Also I dont recommend firing a 9mm one inch from your face/eye/ear. Getting out of sight line yes, and if you have to fight do it. But move MORE, zone your body to outside, turn, and hit the hand grab arm etc (if you still alive) wrestle for the weapon

you can use the video just tap on pause as soon as his head moves and you’ll not be able to pause before it moves out of the line of fire. average reaction time 250ms, and the head can move in like 100ms

Timing is crucial

Great channel. I don't know why people with a gun need to get four or five feet away from you. If you have a firearm stay 15+ feet away from the target.

Amen thanks for this video. It's hard to teach people this.

1.45 is a realistic situation, since two days ago I ended up in exactly the same situation, the difference is that I had the gun pointed at my chest, thank goodness I ended up controlling the situation. It really came to me by instinct because I am not trained in weapons. On the other hand, I do train bjj and mma.

It does work but it's more effective when once you grab the hands spiral them back down towards his center

Thanks for the video, but it's cut abruptly at the end. Would be better to leave it to the end of the technique and close naturally.

Grabbing the gun as you move is effective , depending angle & how close you are I know from experience but you just gotta have those quik reflexes alotta people dnt have✔️

Another great video. Thou hope I never need to use it

What training gun is that?

Unsafe... you are ignoring the blast and muzzle flash right next to your temple...

I was criminally charged with disarming a Toronto Police officer. I did this while I was handcuffed from behind and had two officers grasping both my arms. I'm mentioning this not as a brag, but moreso because I don't like cops because they are abusive to people they consider vulnerable. I'm mentioning this to embarress the Toronto police whose average constable makes over 100k a year. With overtime; doing stuff like traffic control and enforcing the no-toboganning law on the many valleys in Toronto that are too steep for city-funded lawyers worried about liability. And then there's the street hockey law enforcement controversy. One cop, with overtime, made over 300k in one year. This is why I'm mentioning the fact that an old man can disarm a Toronto cop while in handcuffs. I did put the gun back in his holster. Why? Because there is no tactical advantage of having a fully armed Glock with a mag of 15 41 calibre hollow point bullets. The "crime" I was arrested for was eventually dismissed (after spending months in jail), and even the disarming a cop charge was also dismissed. No explanation given. I did emphasize to my lawyer about the initial dubious charges, which I assume he investigated enough to get them dropped. And as for the gun charge; I emphasized to my lawyer that the liability was with these key-stone, over-paid and over-valued cops. I said I should not be punished for the incompitence of a cop who can't even keep control of his gun with a handcuffed prisoner! Again; I was NEVER given a reason why these charges were dropped, but I did imply that I think I know why, just through logical reasoning. I still can't figure out why a cop would admitt to his superiors that his most lethal weapon was comprimised by an old man (in his 50s) while handcuffed and being escorted to the cruiser to be brought to jiaaa I was criminally charged with disarming a Toronto Police officer. I did this while I was handcuffed from behind and had two officers grasping both my arms. I'm mentioning this not as a brag, but moreso because I don't like cops because they are abusive to people they consider vulnerable. I'm mentioning this to embarress to Toronto police whose average constable makes over 100k a year. With overtime; doing stuff like traffic control and enforcing the no-toboganning law on the many valleys in Toronto that are too steep for city-funded lawyers worried about liability. And then there's the street hockey law enforcement controversy. One cop, with overtime, made over 399k in one year. This is why I'm mentioning the fact that an old man can disarm a Toronto cop while in handcuffs. I did put the gun back in his holster. Why? Because there is no tactical advantage of having a fully armed Glock with a mag of 15 41 calibre hollow point bullets. The "crime" I was arrested for was eventually dismissed (after spending months in jail), and even the disarming a cop charge was also dismissed. No explanation given. I did emphasize to my lawyer about the initial dubious charges, which I assume he investigated enough to get them dropped. And as for the gun charge; I emphasized to my lawyer that the liability was with these key-stone, over-paid and over-valued cops. I said I should not be punished for the incompitence of a cop who can't even keep control of his gun with a handcuffed prisoner! Again; I was NEVER given a reason why these charges were dropped, but I did imply that I think I know why, just through logical reasoning. I still can't figure out why a cop would admit to his seniors, and defacto to the public court system, that he had his most lethal weapon taken from him by an old man (in his 50s). I gave the cop his gun back, and he would have been free from (what I suspect would be criminal charges involving negligence to keep control of your most lethal weapon). All charges were dropped without explaination by the court or my lawyer who quit on me on the day I was in court and learned that all charges were dropped. Never trust a cop. They fight dirty (punch you from behind without warning or reason, they lie in court (purjury), and judges generally accept the cops testimony, however weak it is, because the Legal System is CORRUPT, and not just in Canada. It's a FARCE!

I’m deaf in one ear and ringing , I can’t see cuz the muzzle flash in my face but I’m good. Shoot that’s a semi auto? How many bullets does that carry?

But with his finger being inside of the trigger guard, shouldn't the goal be to make him want to separate from the weapon by using leverage to ry and break his finger by bending the weapon in a direction based on whether he is a right or left handed shooter?

that gun going off so close to your ear could mess you up

I have wrestled and did martial arts for 50 years, this guy is one of the best I've seen, alot of people still follow traditions but this guy thinks real world! Traditional is good but takes to long and very often doesn't even teach applications, kinda want to keep the mystery so you keep spending$$$. thumbs up my man!! I would work with you!!!

Is that after he pulls the trigger or before

Right, stay that calm when it happens at the atm.

Thanks

If I ever get a role in an action movie, I will use these moves lol.

Literally a disarm is to get the weapon away from the assailant and get away fast as possible but if you end up killing the assailant you could actually get arrested This is no cap.

What do you do when someone has a gun pointed at someone you love and says hand over your wallet or purse and then points the gun at the other person and does the same thing?

There's never a perfect plan against a gun except another gun. Word from the wise✌🏿

I strongly disagree with this. As a lifelong student of martial arts, combat vet, and person who enjoys living, please do not do attempt to disarm an attacker that is holding a pistol on you, especially to your head. The percussion shockwave of most pistols at that range, even as a complete miss, will most likely render you unconscious. It can even rupture your skull at the temple and end you. Slow the video down and notice how on the very first close, pistol to the skull iteration, the student pulls the trigger while he is in the line of fire. It takes the instructor a few times to get his timing down, and he has obviously practiced this hundreds if not thousands of times! What if it's a revolver and you can't grab the slide? What if you miss the slide because your hands are slick with sweat because your body just dumped a million adrenaline molecules into your system ..... Plus, and most salient here, attackers do not react in real world situations like they are trained to act in the training studio (ask me how I know). If he ( the instructor) would have grabbed my hands I would have brought both of my elbows forcibly down to my hips, immediately jerking my hands back (since they are connected to elbow and) most likely pulling the gun back into my control. (People are MUCH stronger AND faster than martial arts scenarios account for). I also might have smashed him in the face with my left fist or elbow as his guard is completely down. Most people loose all muscle control when they get punched hard enough in the face (ask me how I know lol) Then I would have emptied that magazine in him..... My Point? There are countless things an attacker could do in response to the instructors initial defense counter. Bring drugs into the equation, and you are literally fighting someone 2-3 times stronger than you who is not feeling pain and might have nothing to lose (a deadly combo). Also, you can't train for scenarios....This is just a modern spin on technique memorization driven training that has made modern American martial arts so ineffective. Your assailant rarely if ever does what you want them to do or what you have trained for......I mean, never......It's freaky.....but true. Better to train your balance, posture, coordination, and ability to move fluidly and with stability. Techniques are to slow in combat situations. Then you can adapt in the moment to the situation at hand instead of relying on techniques you have not trained enough to make second nature, and can only do on your dominant side....We are not John Wick......

I say, when he s that close, I d ENGAGE him, like you always say, move my head out of the line of fire and clear the weapon and strike at once before he realizes what s happening. CONVULSIVENESS and THE ELEMENT OF SURPRISE are of the essence. I WOUL NOT chase the weapon. He s the one to incapacitate. Not the weapon, which is harmless if not wielded. I would focus on CLEARING and MOVING IN with a barrage of assaults. When he s being beaten around the face, he will have as much chance of shooting himself as of shooting me. I believe in TAKING IT to the aggressor. There is no magic bullet, as Damian Ross says, but I believe it s the best chance at survival I can have against an armed assailant. MINDSET is very important. I must do WHAT IT TAKES to INCAPACITATE him, DEHUMANIZE the aggressor. The skillset is NOTHING without the MINDSET. It s also important to remind people that it s very unlikely they LL come out of such a situation UNSCATHED. It is what it is.

How do I keep from getting startled by the sound of the gunshot after moving my head out of the line of fire?

Oh boy, that grip tells all we need to know about his gun familiarity 😂

It seems you've never heard the noise of a real gun. a shot so close to your ear stuns you and knocks you out. and the flash could make you blind.

Like Neo in the Matrix: Don't be in the path of the bullet.

full trigger pull vs cocked trigger big difference

oh don't forget guys your going to be in searing pain from getting your eardrum blown out 🙄👌

Good stuff

"hands are faster than the eye... so if I move my head, it's faster than his hand..."

Like like this video. Good content. KZfaq with its new anti-Ad Blocker campaign ....they don't like their customers I guess.

It’s true. Now days especially, you should be prepared and at least try.

You lose your hearing from proximity of the muzzle. Who would put their hand gun so close to the head. In close quarter you would keep the firearm at waits level and use your other hand to hold the individual at bay.

The problem is, criminals tend to work from retention because they dont want anyone but the victim to see their weapon.

Not to worry unless you have a certain demographic walking toward your car at a red light.

does this all come in the realm of telegraphing your movements?

Do you realize how low that will be going off right next to your ear.....

Problem is anyone who knows firearms will never move close to you…that’s the beauty of pistols they work 30m away so why put it on ur forehead…also you don’t need to move ur head sideways…just turn ur head the pistol will go past you…as seen in Krav Maga same in back or chest…rotation

Martial arts is based on speed and deception! 👏🏾👏🏾

You might become deaf in your left ear... but at least you are alive.

Very dangerous game

I tell people IF you are to try any of this watch their eyes, when they look elsewhere that's when you make your move

Olde guy tip: Back up 36 inches. If i have the gun why am I in close quarters?

Years ago the secret service contracted a couple if SF guys to develop a system that worked. It is effective 90% of the time usung simunitions. The demo here isn't realistic either.

That needs allot of training, it probably wont work if you full with fear and you probably only get one chanse.. If you right handed you allsow probably move your head to the right like he did.. on top of that people wont go so close to shorts anyone, thats the whole idé with a handgun, that you dont need to get that close. At that range one would probably us a knife

“I was just gonna make sure you were gonna shoot”

Move your head, have a big firework going "BLAMM" next to eyes and ear...and start counting the next rounds getting dumped into you. Bravo!

Who would be so dumb, as to put your gun into armsreach of your opponent?

You just need to be fast no time for anything else

Unfortunately, I’m here because I have my suspicions on some guy that goes to my school

Move your head to the side when he fires and you'll be loosing an eardrum and be disoriented

What’s funny, is that in real life, no one is going to put the gun up to you like that. Very very rarely, unless it’s someone you know or something, or from behind.

Please don't try to stop a gun from firing with your hand. Obey or run! Smh

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Master Ken, it's you?

Pep Guardiola?

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reality....no head....

Not meaning to be disrespectful here, but one of the biggest problems I see with almost every single video on KZfaq almost all of them is that there’s no reality in the attack or attacker. It’s one thing to slow things down for demonstration purposes, but almost one thing that nobody demonstrates is the emotion of the attacker. If you want to simulate a realistic attack, whether with a gun or with hands, you need to show the attacker, angry, or pretending to be hyped up on something, or very afraid and nervous, at the very least moving the gun back-and-forth a little as if he’s tracking the guy so if the guy moves a hair, he’s gonna point the gun at him. You’re talking about being able to move your head faster than he can pull the trigger you, but you can’t really prove that until he’s tracking you with that gun and he has nervous energy or anger or whatever. That’s the true measure of a simulation.

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The key is to ask him a question right before you go for the disarm. It will retard his reaction time by at least 0.5 seconds. For example : Gun man points a gun at you and is within disarming distance. You get your hands up. Gun man says, "give me your..." You then say,"how much do you want? 0.5 seconds after you say the last word (want) then you go for the disarm. Works like a charm.

That's cool. The question is then why bunch of guys in rubber flip flops just come over and kick out cool guys? Probably cartridges were of wrong system or what else could it be?

Victor Marx, check him out.

It's gonna be loud

"Shocking"?

I know you can't train with a real loaded gun without tye safety on. My point is a if a criminal has a real loaded gun at you your defense will be much different when your training with a toy gun. You will be able to defend against a toy gun. A real gun much different.

Ands that's how you get to the afterlife people.

7 foot rule, your screwed.

First of all, you have to be really stupid to hold a firearm that close to somebody. You’re defeating the whole purpose of a long range weapon

if someone has a gun and gets that close is an idiot your creating a opportunity for them to disarm you guns are meant to be used at a distance

Well, IF I were to ever pull a gun, I am not going to stand there w/o pulling the trigger. It's a fact, fools try to intimidate with guns. If you pull the thing, USE it. And not ever for a crime. Silly

don't you feel sorry for your ear? This is the only way it will ring. Well, stunned is not yet killed. You can’t turn your hand in the other direction by the elbow. ahh or will it show, should I look further?

My thought, better to do something and possibly die, than do nothing and still possibly die

You clearly never shot guns.

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On your knee's

Better to die trying something than being like a lamb led to the slaughter

Next you're in heaven or hell