The Simon Phillips Session - Drums Talk

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8 жыл бұрын

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In this episode, Simon reveals some interesting details about his signature drum set and talks about differences between his studio and live setups. He also provides detailed insights in his miking technique, followed by an explanation of a drum recording setup exclusively using elysia analog processors. And what about that paint can full of sand?!

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@tlkshowhst
@tlkshowhst 7 жыл бұрын
Decades of experience and wisdom in a 20 minute video... Thank you for this!
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks - we're glad you liked it.
@drummer78
@drummer78 4 жыл бұрын
I first learned about Simon Phillips from Pete Townshend’s 80’s solo records. Then I saw his amazing playing on The Who’s 1989 Tour. I have since learned about his varied and amazing session career and is original work. He is such a master craftsmen and just a brilliant drummer. Simon Phillips is a master of music.
@pepa20
@pepa20 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it's great to listen to what he has to teach
@Vortexrec
@Vortexrec 7 жыл бұрын
I love to hear him speak, it's so calming and convincing :)
@Mudge07
@Mudge07 7 жыл бұрын
Vortexrec His playing is convincing too; proof positive without even a word!
@utiiskandar5031
@utiiskandar5031 4 жыл бұрын
yes I looove to hear his voice
@robote7679
@robote7679 Жыл бұрын
Simon is such a perfectionist wether playing or recording. There is no detail he hasn't considered or overlooked. These are just a part of the foundation that make him the legend he is. Thanks for all the decades of incredible music.
@edvia8141
@edvia8141 7 жыл бұрын
I get it: this was recorded at Phantom Recordings in LA. Can you please take that caption down so I can see his full kit?
@michaelsage74
@michaelsage74 3 жыл бұрын
SO FRUSTRATING!!!!!!
@mattiemclean9882
@mattiemclean9882 3 жыл бұрын
Why?What do you think you are missing?
@flocore
@flocore 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattiemclean9882 It's just unnecessary to let it stay there. We want to look at his kit 🤓
@fireenginefan111
@fireenginefan111 3 жыл бұрын
Have you watched the complete video? When it comes to discussion on the bass / kick drums you get to see the kit then! I guess it is Phantom Recordings video...so therefore their right to present it how they like...frustrating as that might be 🙂
@skeetabomb
@skeetabomb 3 жыл бұрын
@@flocore I admire your honesty :)
@dizzolve
@dizzolve 6 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. We're all hungry for MORE. Thanks for posting
@Qqqqzzzzznnnt
@Qqqqzzzzznnnt 7 жыл бұрын
So much knowledge this guy has😳
@kevinhartnell2075
@kevinhartnell2075 7 жыл бұрын
Not only is he a highly talented and extremely musical drummer, he is also eloquent, very knowledgeable about the inner-workings of it all, and has a great speaking voice. Thanks for sharing this great video/session!
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your kind words - we actually could not agree more ;-)
@stevenspencer9104
@stevenspencer9104 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much my brother. Appreciate you taking your time to explain your set up. You have just blessed my socks off.
@nicholass.6829
@nicholass.6829 7 жыл бұрын
Such a great drum sound!!! Saw him at a clinic YEARS ago and I still think about how he played with such finesse and was so funny and inspiring.
@LocaliLLocano
@LocaliLLocano 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. There’s a wealth of information on this video alone
@AnAmericanGuitarist
@AnAmericanGuitarist 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely the most informative drum mic explanation video that I have seen. I saw a Simon Phillips - Sam Ash drum clinic in Long Island, NY decades ago (& saw him perform with Jeff Beck ... AMAZING!). That was informative too, but this is highly detailed.
@Francesco_Marras
@Francesco_Marras 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastico, grazie per la condivisione di questo video!! :)
@Steven-xd5kn
@Steven-xd5kn 3 жыл бұрын
The reason I bought a Tama Starclssic maple kit was for those pure sounding toms 🤘🏼🍻
@iloveNgany
@iloveNgany 3 жыл бұрын
They are satisfying aren't they?
@michaelmattice4986
@michaelmattice4986 7 жыл бұрын
If this whole drumming thing doesn't work out for Simon, he could easily have a career reading books on tape...Quite soothing:)
@CaptainSpyware
@CaptainSpyware 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the same, haha. He would be great at it! A true Gentlemen! ;)
@ameliechevalier
@ameliechevalier 5 жыл бұрын
He reminds me of Charles Bukowski
@Mudge07
@Mudge07 5 жыл бұрын
The rhyme, the rhythm and the reason, Simon’s dedication to playing and recording his performances is exemplary. If you have enough channels to be able to mic to the fullest extent, then he’s got anecdotal facts to spare for every scenario.
@whiteninja9481
@whiteninja9481 6 жыл бұрын
Too funny. I have been listening and watching him play for many, many years and this is the first time I have heard him speak. Simon is one of my favorite eight or so drummers in the world. Wow can he play! :)
@PetarFroggpond
@PetarFroggpond 7 жыл бұрын
Great to see this type of tutorial. Simon is a master! I have not used your plug ins ,,,,yet.....but I'm sure in time I will.
@godface81
@godface81 6 жыл бұрын
awesome video! thanks guys
@markpeytonennis149
@markpeytonennis149 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Simon...
@waynemagin2554
@waynemagin2554 8 жыл бұрын
Well Well Well, I continue to be amazed by your knowledge, which I use every day. Thank you once more for your numerous tech. tips. Hava Nice day...
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 8 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. And whenever there is anything you'd like to ask - please just go ahead.
@mattcartwright8272
@mattcartwright8272 7 жыл бұрын
A great teacher.
@Savan_Triveda
@Savan_Triveda Жыл бұрын
Thanks for insights.
@wriker36
@wriker36 7 жыл бұрын
Bloody brilliant.
@IAmInfinitus208
@IAmInfinitus208 Жыл бұрын
3:26 Mic-ing the drumkit 8:36 Mic-ing tom-toms and "spill/bleed & phase" 14:25 For those looking for the bass drum talk.
@protegemoiproducciones2909
@protegemoiproducciones2909 7 жыл бұрын
The room sounds amazing
@boggybogallow
@boggybogallow 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant drumming on Bernie Marsden's "Behind Blue Eyes". I like the little subtleties Simon Phillips injects into it.
@moisesmarquez4133
@moisesmarquez4133 7 жыл бұрын
I guess you tried to say Bernie Marsden's "Behind your dark eyes", instead of "Behind blue eyes" (The Who; Keith Moon).
@boggybogallow
@boggybogallow 7 жыл бұрын
Moisés Márquez Haha you're spot on. How I managed to get those titles confused I don't know - both great songs though. Thanks for the correction :)
@TolgaPala
@TolgaPala 4 жыл бұрын
I listened to it multiple times and I really wonder if it is only me that finds the unprocessed sound much better than the processed one? I feel like the input has a lot more dynamic range and the output sounds a little constrained, muffled. I guess his secret is that his drums already sing naturally without even having the need to undergo any processing. :) What a true master.
@marcioisrael4772
@marcioisrael4772 6 жыл бұрын
Top demais essa batera. mestre Simon Phillips👏👏👏👏👏Brasil
@BillZ06003
@BillZ06003 7 жыл бұрын
Incredible human being
@Thenamelessoul
@Thenamelessoul 5 жыл бұрын
What did i learn from this? It depends! ;) Awesome video! Love Simon
@kallekontio2322
@kallekontio2322 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Earned a sub. More of these pls!
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We're actually working on more at the very moment, but next time the theme will be a different one. Please stay tuned...
@GamalielRios
@GamalielRios 7 жыл бұрын
22:35 JAW DROPPING...!!!
@luisfernando-mm3jt
@luisfernando-mm3jt 5 жыл бұрын
Been hearing you since Mike Oldfield days...Keep up
@liranziv
@liranziv 5 жыл бұрын
love it
@elvisrichini
@elvisrichini 6 жыл бұрын
Simon Phillip E' IL MIGLIORE IN ASSOLUTO DAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@fernsehdesign
@fernsehdesign 2 жыл бұрын
didnt know of the „speaker as microphone trick“ incredible.
@paulcarlsen4088
@paulcarlsen4088 6 жыл бұрын
The technical side is very cool!
8 жыл бұрын
Simon No.1
@dinoschachten
@dinoschachten 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure there is a mix-up with the audios at the end: IN is most likely the processed sound as you can hear the compressor working, a lot of selective fresh treble frequencies not usually heard on any unprocessed mic signal and that wonderful Simon Philipps trademark transparent and rich sound, while the "OUT" sound seems uncompressed and flat, with the toms and snare sounding as they typically do before EQ, with their uncontrolled mids creating a bit more of a muddy, less transparent sound that I've never heard on a finished Simon Philipps mix. ;)
@deaterk
@deaterk 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what studio this was taped at?! 🙄
@Steven-xd5kn
@Steven-xd5kn 3 жыл бұрын
Sry didn't catch that part 😂
@deaterk
@deaterk 3 жыл бұрын
Steven - Right?! LOL!
@mcfly3510
@mcfly3510 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, sorry.
@Volksgranadier
@Volksgranadier 6 жыл бұрын
i can listen him speak all day long
@edudrums8891
@edudrums8891 4 жыл бұрын
Hola buenisimo video!! pregunta para afinar toms y snare utiliza el parche de arriba mas tenso que parche de abajo de abajo?
@3x__
@3x__ 7 жыл бұрын
Good sound from drums !
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks ;-)
@rydergrimes6696
@rydergrimes6696 6 жыл бұрын
3x took him about 8 hours to tune those and its worth it the most beautiful sounding drums ever
@JonStumpyPeeps
@JonStumpyPeeps 8 жыл бұрын
Separated at birth from Eric Idle.
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 8 жыл бұрын
Haha, yes :-)
@TheEleatic
@TheEleatic 7 жыл бұрын
Sure, but Simon was forgotten in the womb for a couple of extra years. He completely forgot to describe the weave of the carpet beneath the kit. I'm very particular about the weave of my carpet. I also insist on carpets matching drapes.
@POUGASDR
@POUGASDR 7 жыл бұрын
OMG HE IS A GOD
@tomhartmann8643
@tomhartmann8643 7 жыл бұрын
omg that difference!
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it ;-)
@DrumSolVanIsle
@DrumSolVanIsle 7 жыл бұрын
Phillips' voice causes resonance from the drum set, like a reverb tail.
@dinoschachten
@dinoschachten 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss! :D
@humblehombre9904
@humblehombre9904 6 жыл бұрын
What is the impressor? I have googled it and not found it. I really like the engineering end.
@andym28
@andym28 6 жыл бұрын
I do love a good voltage joke
@Pearlpassionstudio
@Pearlpassionstudio 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting on your kits mic set up.. I sure know what you mean about phase issues. I track with 16 mics on my kit here in the studio...Great tutorial..
@JAFOpty
@JAFOpty 7 жыл бұрын
Argh! that lower third banner is annoying. Is it necessary to have it on the entire time? otherwise great video btw!
@GeoZero
@GeoZero 6 жыл бұрын
Yep. Hides half of the drum. Needs to be removed. Stupid ad.
@koukleum
@koukleum 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've heard someone talk about the paint can trick before and I've actually tried it in a studio recording session once. It seems to work (albeit a subtle difference)! I'm just curious about the physics behind it.
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 8 жыл бұрын
The can filled with paint or sand mechanically absorbs a part of the sound waves/resonances inside of the kick drum, which generates a more controlled sound (that's how Simon would describe it) that is easier to record in the end.
@koukleum
@koukleum 8 жыл бұрын
+elysiaTV Thanks, come to think about it, kinda seems logical :-)
@MrVectrex
@MrVectrex 6 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the "old" SM545 as a toppsnare mik? it´s a bit softer in it´s own sound compared to 57, (My opinion). What do you use for a "flat-hitting-drummer" on the under-skin on snare??
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 6 жыл бұрын
The best would be to ask Simon directly... you can reach him via his website: www.simon-phillips.com/ Cheers!
@TheSleathable
@TheSleathable 7 жыл бұрын
steve coogan really likes his drums
@massimomaxmajorana
@massimomaxmajorana 3 жыл бұрын
I love you!
@HR2635
@HR2635 4 жыл бұрын
the Sony mic for snare drum at Trident was a Sony C38B.. if somone wondered
@geofflowther2458
@geofflowther2458 4 жыл бұрын
I did wonder. All I know about Sony mics is that EMI sold off a shed load of them at the Abbey Road "Sale of the Century" around 1980/81. Mostly C37s if memory serves.
@mikehawk9461
@mikehawk9461 3 жыл бұрын
I think this was recorded at phantom studios not sure though.
@LorneVignettes
@LorneVignettes Жыл бұрын
I totally agree about liking the SM57 better then the beta57. I really like the Beta-56's on Tom's, SM57 on Snare, Beta-52 on kick & SM81's for overheads. This guy's drum kit is way to big. It would be a nightmare having to record/mix it in the studio. Lol
@Jalliams
@Jalliams 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else getting Howard Moon vibes? Speaking of course both as a massive Simon Phillips, and Julian Barrett fan 😊
@dobrocat1
@dobrocat1 8 жыл бұрын
He needs to try AutoAlign from Sound Radix!
@j.r.90001
@j.r.90001 3 жыл бұрын
If IN meant unprocessed it sounded better than the processed OUT sound! More live, feel, crispier.
@dinoschachten
@dinoschachten 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that confused me as well. I am 98% sure that this is incorrectly labelled: IN is most likely the processed sound as you can hear the compressor working and that wonderful Simon Philipps trademark transparent and rich sound, while the "OUT" sound seems uncompressed and flat, with the toms and snare sounding as they typically do before EQ, with their uncontrolled mids creating a bit more of a muddy, less transparent sound that I've never heard on a finished Simon Philipps mix. ;)
@thorpenator9148
@thorpenator9148 4 жыл бұрын
People forget he played for Judas Priest for a hot minute. My favorite Priest music.
@Steven-xd5kn
@Steven-xd5kn 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, Sin after Sin. Great album. The first time I heard of Simon in the day 🤘🏼
@aridematos3555
@aridematos3555 7 жыл бұрын
There's a question I would like to ask Simon Philips that's been hunting me forever, does he use triggers in his octobans? How come do they sound glassy?
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
The best thing you could actually do is to get in touch with him directly... His website, is: www.simon-phillips.com/ , and you can use the contact tab to send him a message via email. Cheers!
@mezdrums
@mezdrums 3 ай бұрын
I love Eric Idle
@andreasboss4068
@andreasboss4068 6 жыл бұрын
My friend Simon i had a red Tama swingstar with cymbals all the series2001 by paiste.the only thing i had change was snare.of course i didn't have so many pieces just the basic but still sound was extraordinary.please tell me this monster made you alone?thank you.
@ChrisDN
@ChrisDN 4 жыл бұрын
Who's this guy and where was it recorded?
@paulbentley2709
@paulbentley2709 4 жыл бұрын
You don't need to know, clearly.
@sethcashman1011
@sethcashman1011 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, seriously. You can take the caption down now, guys.
@elephantcup
@elephantcup 4 жыл бұрын
LA is Louisiana, but he's in his home studio in Los Angeles, which is L.A. Right?
@antoniomelillo6274
@antoniomelillo6274 6 жыл бұрын
good
@roberthoman6278
@roberthoman6278 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where this is recorded? And who is this guy?
@calidrummer2362
@calidrummer2362 6 жыл бұрын
I looked up the elysia and damn near had a heart attack! Guess I'll put that on my list of things to get next to the Bugatti, mansion and a real life.
@MrObelisk2290
@MrObelisk2290 6 жыл бұрын
there are also printed ribbon mics
@richardbelisle7626
@richardbelisle7626 3 жыл бұрын
Saw him with a three pass jazz ...he jaco...can't think of the gtr..Allan holdsworth? ...any way he was young it was amazing...
@rydergrimes6696
@rydergrimes6696 6 жыл бұрын
It takes him 8 hours to tune a brand new kit they sound so beautiful
@Joesfosterdogs
@Joesfosterdogs 8 жыл бұрын
Did Simon and Jojo get together and and agree on letting their hair go for that addict look?
@slickingdom
@slickingdom 7 жыл бұрын
Haha!! That's the first thing I noticed was that they look wired. They don't touch that garbage!!!
@Egoblivion
@Egoblivion 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@jargero8203
@jargero8203 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff sounds as if he knows quite a bit about that "addict" subject...
@michaelwhitlow1413
@michaelwhitlow1413 3 жыл бұрын
When you're as great as those two...you can "style" your hair any way you want to.
@michaelsage74
@michaelsage74 3 жыл бұрын
Where was this filmed?
@JohnMorris-ge6hq
@JohnMorris-ge6hq 7 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, I saw you drumming for the who in 1988 during their Tommy 25th Anniversary Tour. You were great. I read somewhere back in the 80's that you were regarded as the most prepared studio drummer in the business because all your drums had small clip- on-mikes that you left on permanently, thereby being no need for.any engineer (studio or live) to mike up your drum kit. I gather from this video that you've changed your mike setup. Sir, assuming the story I read was true, why did you get rid of your permanent clip-on mike setup?
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
Hello John, it's quite likely Simon will not read this in time or at all, as this is not his official site. It would be better if you tried to contact him directly through the official page: facebook.com/SimonPhillipsOfficialBandPage/ Thanks!
@ElMoShApPiNeSs
@ElMoShApPiNeSs 8 жыл бұрын
...he didn't show the room mics...
@joost3783
@joost3783 3 жыл бұрын
essentially
@LorneVignettes
@LorneVignettes Жыл бұрын
I really hope he's using noise gates on the kicks, Snare & Tom's. It would be a bloody mess literally without them.
@jasonmare33
@jasonmare33 6 жыл бұрын
bad ass! big dog aint fuckin around
@thesteelstrummer2307
@thesteelstrummer2307 4 жыл бұрын
Tip: You have to choon your drums to sound like Simon Phillips
@naheraka
@naheraka 7 жыл бұрын
Indian summer))))
@drs-Rigo-Reus
@drs-Rigo-Reus 4 жыл бұрын
I thought best was one mic on the front, 2 at handlevel on the sides facing towards the drums and 2 overheads for stereo.
@GingerDrums
@GingerDrums 7 жыл бұрын
I really think it is quite amazing that professional audio engineers demo equipment without loudness matching. Surely Elysia are marketing towards pro audio technicians, and believe me, I wont trust anything that is not loudness matched!
@M123OCT
@M123OCT 7 жыл бұрын
Ben listening to Simon Phillips for ages. Saw him at a clinic probably about 30 years ago. Great player, and some some iconic tracks. Still find it difficult to listen to how he gradually gets more 'American' in the way he talks - kind of drumming Lewis Hamilton. But what a player!
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
Well, he has been living in LA for quite some time now ;-)
@M123OCT
@M123OCT 7 жыл бұрын
OK, fair enough then (although no matter how long I'd lived there, I'd never speak like that!). ;)
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
;-)
@thedrumacademy50
@thedrumacademy50 5 жыл бұрын
I find it vey funny that 37 voted thumbs down. Are you kidding me?? They obviously know more than Simon Phillips.
@Jellybeantiger
@Jellybeantiger 6 жыл бұрын
I remember having a speaker wired up in reverse as a kick drum mic when I did a recording session. To capture the kick’s room sound and low end,oops just noticed he has one also.
@stergos60
@stergos60 7 жыл бұрын
what console is he using? is a console or a controller?
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
Check out this other video we did with him, showing which equipment has been used: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7x8hKaC0Ke-Zo0.html
@tlezzy8252
@tlezzy8252 7 жыл бұрын
LOL paint can full of sand gonna have to try that one.... who would have thought?
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
Remember to really fill it with sand instead of the paint ;-)
@tlezzy8252
@tlezzy8252 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the one thing you don't want to forget.... peace
@tangosierra9649
@tangosierra9649 2 ай бұрын
Auto align plug in solves all of this now
@doublepedaler
@doublepedaler Жыл бұрын
The Tom Tom's!.! Lol
@125ccbiker9
@125ccbiker9 5 жыл бұрын
if you pause it at 12:11 you will get a Simon with his head growing out of his shoulder
@masterjedi5510
@masterjedi5510 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, he could absolutely narrate wildlife TV shows if he ever wants to stop being an elite drummer!! Lol. Might even give David Attenborough a run for his money!!
@arturwachowski6827
@arturwachowski6827 7 жыл бұрын
he can play on a cardboard and will be great .
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 7 жыл бұрын
... and it would look pretty cool as well, hehe...
@simonl1785
@simonl1785 2 жыл бұрын
Legend way better thant the Mike Portnoys of the drumming world
@anonymous_friend
@anonymous_friend 5 жыл бұрын
The sound engineer for this video should have had him remove his bracelet or his watch if we really want to pay attention to detail.
@ruthburke820
@ruthburke820 7 жыл бұрын
is that Eric Idle in a wig?
@johncougar526
@johncougar526 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but where's the entire drum solo ... that's a bit of a tease!
@johncougar526
@johncougar526 6 жыл бұрын
Might be this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9iCYK2hyrzFimw.html
@elysia-audio
@elysia-audio 6 жыл бұрын
Here you go: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9iCYK2hyrzFimw.html Enjoy!
@shutitup68
@shutitup68 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great drummer but it's time for a new set up. I can't think of any drummer off hand right now that hasn't changed their kit around... Less is more. Adapt, reinvent. Thank you..
@caspervanhelvoirt
@caspervanhelvoirt 3 жыл бұрын
And who are you to say?
@shutitup68
@shutitup68 3 жыл бұрын
@@caspervanhelvoirt.. I'm nobody. Just an opinion.
@richardrejmer8721
@richardrejmer8721 2 жыл бұрын
I bet you give advice to Professor Brian Cox on how to set up the Large Hadron Collider, too. . .
@shutitup68
@shutitup68 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardrejmer8721.. I would!
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