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The Snake River at Saddle Mountains?

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Nick Zentner

Nick Zentner

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Parking spot: goo.gl/maps/fL...
Lydia's Snake River paper from 2021: doi.org/10.113...
Nick's Ancient Rivers lecture from 2017: • Ancient Rivers of the ...
Nick's Hells Canyon lecture from 2019: • Hells Canyon and the R...

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@sdmike1141
@sdmike1141 2 жыл бұрын
“I’m soaking it in boss. Soaking it in.” Thanks Nick. Breathtaking!!
@briangarrow448
@briangarrow448 2 жыл бұрын
I guess what impresses me the most is that the information you are sharing with us is being gathered and published by a relatively small group of academics. Kudos to everyone who is out there in the field, gathering samples, mapping and then doing the lab work, then publishing in order to improve our knowledge. Well done to everyone who shares their knowledge with Nick, who does a great job of making this information available, and understandable to the general public!
@markcollins3418
@markcollins3418 2 жыл бұрын
Want to thank you for all the content the last couple years. It's been something to look forward to throughout the pandemic. I'm currently rewatching the Eocene and surprised how much I've already forgotten. Suffice to say, the Pacific had a lot going on by itself, and then here comes this bulldozer from the east. Often you compliment your well-behaved and well-informed audience, but you're the honey that attracts all us flies out here. So, have a great summer, honey.
@kyleroth1025
@kyleroth1025 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Professor Zentner
@ozzieulloa6088
@ozzieulloa6088 2 жыл бұрын
Started watching your videos over a year ago befor I moved to Washington, and now I'm hooked 😳
@superdave1263
@superdave1263 2 жыл бұрын
Nick, we need to get you a 1977 VW Bus. They will literally go anywhere, plus you can sleep and camp in it. Thanks again for an amazing video!
@Maastrichian
@Maastrichian 2 жыл бұрын
Been watching a lot of your older vids recently, and I was so pleased and surprised to see this pop up on my feed. Thank you, as always, for your presentations!
@frankmoreau8847
@frankmoreau8847 2 жыл бұрын
I'm putting in fenceposts at a location about 500 feet above the Okanogan River and in some places gravel bars are exposed on the slopes but on the flatter ground the gravel is about 36 to 42 inches deep. Its a mixture of sand up to 4" round cobbles.
@davec9244
@davec9244 2 жыл бұрын
nice surprise, not a mother but I will take the gift a walk and talk with Nick. Thank you, ALL stay safe.
@katemcclain8405
@katemcclain8405 2 жыл бұрын
I also thank you, your walks and talks , are terrific.
@GregInEastTennessee
@GregInEastTennessee 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and lots of food for thought. Grandpa Carl is a real treasure. I was lucky enough to spend an afternoon with him and the Mrs. After we shook hands, it was like we had been friends forever. They were very hospitable and Carl was gracious enough to give me a tour of most of the area. We had a great time at the clay pits and he explained a lot. Folks, if you get a chance to meet him, don't pass it up. He's really a good guy. And thanks for all you do for us Nick. Be well.
@lynnmitzy1643
@lynnmitzy1643 2 жыл бұрын
Wow pretty, let's look at River rocks ❤️
@keithrelyea7997
@keithrelyea7997 2 жыл бұрын
Nick I love how you show and teach us the majesty and peel back the mystery of your geologicly rich state.You are unique and a treasure to those of us who look at a land scape and wonder why. Thanks.
@hestheMaster
@hestheMaster 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick for a great synopsis of what other geologists have found out about the Snake river and why it does have the perfect name! The view there is absolutely breathtaking!
@torque350hp
@torque350hp 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love a mystery that has one wondering how it's possible but there's just enough information that you can't leave it alone.
@vinmansbakery
@vinmansbakery 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been a couple days, and I’m still blown away that there’s evidence the Snake River once ran through Sentinel Gap! Wow!
@gordonormiston3233
@gordonormiston3233 2 жыл бұрын
Very imposing landscape. To me It seems difficult to imagine these vast areas being uplifted to their modern elevation and stages in between. Many thanks as usual for a thought provoking video. Happy Sunday morning.
@johnlasher7426
@johnlasher7426 2 жыл бұрын
As always Nick, love your content. Also love your method to digest new ideas. You have taught us so much from watching you learn. John Lasher
@irenewaldron9802
@irenewaldron9802 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clear speak walk and talk. The camera you used today is absolutely amazing. Could almost think you were flying a drone. Thank you, Nick.
@wtpauley
@wtpauley 2 жыл бұрын
I love info like this and I appreciate your videos and explanations
@scottwolf1238
@scottwolf1238 2 жыл бұрын
We love you too Nick from Scott and Lily. We love your videos and we learn so much. Thank you!
@maxinee1267
@maxinee1267 2 жыл бұрын
what a story about the snake river being here for millions of years. thats the best. and the tenacity of the research to find the evidence. Geology never dissappoints.
@krisconrad6980
@krisconrad6980 2 жыл бұрын
Love your lectures and videos. You are a great teacher. Thanks for posting.
@skiphamblin2185
@skiphamblin2185 2 жыл бұрын
Great study, great video, thanks so much!!!
@kawonu2666
@kawonu2666 2 жыл бұрын
You got a down home simple way of talking about things that you are obviously very intelligent about. I watch a bunch of your old lectures.
@cindyleehaddock3551
@cindyleehaddock3551 2 жыл бұрын
Cool! Thanks Nick for another cool geohike! Always good to get an update on newer info. Researchers are finding lots of good uses for zircon dating! Great way to back up existing work!
@Rachel.4644
@Rachel.4644 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Nick. The central Washington country is beautiful. I'm interested in learning more about the different dating techniques, pros and cons, equipment and procedures (where available, expense, how long procedures take).... You are appreciated so much. 🤟
@bagoquarks
@bagoquarks 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute Age Dating on KZfaq by Nick Zentner
@gregoryhoefer3660
@gregoryhoefer3660 2 жыл бұрын
A great way to start my morning off getting my mind off COVID. Keep up the great work. Thanks Nick
@watcherspirit2351
@watcherspirit2351 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Professor, for placing us on the cutting edge.
@hjpngmw
@hjpngmw 2 жыл бұрын
The sand identification theory sounds fascinating. I look forward to learning more. Thanks for the scenic view of the Columbia. It's been dreary here all day. You brought some sun to Mother's Day!
@bagoquarks
@bagoquarks 2 жыл бұрын
Two topics for you: absolute age dating; zircon crystals containing uranium and lead.
@alyzabethmcrose3521
@alyzabethmcrose3521 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the update for Ocean rivers of the Pacific NW part two - updated information.
@jamespmurray2785
@jamespmurray2785 2 жыл бұрын
I can't picture it. Thank you for all your videos.
@jayolson578
@jayolson578 2 жыл бұрын
Great and very interesting video.. I’ve learned more about Central Washington and it’s formations then I ever have in school. Keep up the amazing videos and content.
@michellalonde137
@michellalonde137 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick ...
@treck87
@treck87 2 жыл бұрын
That is fascinating to learn about. Snake river used to go up the East side of the Bitterroots. Crazy how far a river can change it's course. Thanks for the info and the amazing scenery Nick.
@skagited9617
@skagited9617 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Nick... Very interesting vid, and some great vistas to boot!! Amazing the history that can be extracted by examining the different lines of evidence. You do a great job of explaining it, even if it might be something 'new' to you. Thanks!
@deantheot7296
@deantheot7296 2 жыл бұрын
bird boy . . . muffler boy :) another fun outing with the prof. Good paper and incite presented on the "sand" concept of the Snake River. thru Hell's Canyon.. Beautiful pics. Thank you sir.'
@floydt2029
@floydt2029 2 жыл бұрын
Spectacular scenery love learning of this interesting river systems , thanks Nick!
@blueboats7530
@blueboats7530 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I've seen the Ancient Rivers lecture and all the other Downtown lectures--they've had a large impact on me
@dannybrown5744
@dannybrown5744 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick for keeping me grounded.. mention these sand as statistics for those that don't know.
@myrachurchman5013
@myrachurchman5013 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible view and another great story, thanks for sharing Nick
@chtdmt
@chtdmt 2 жыл бұрын
We came over from Olympia area hoping you would have a popup somewhere near our route! If not, we have already seen Drumheller Channels and heading over to Palouse Falls. Then it's wine tasting in the Gorge!
@marks1638
@marks1638 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. The first one I ever was the one you did years ago about the "Great Earthquakes of the Northwest". Accidently got hooked on the geology of that area when I saw a local program, while visiting Seattle in 2007, featuring the people who first postulated that a massive earthquake that hit the area in 1700. Enjoyed all the videos from you and other geologists at CWU and other Universities in the area. Keep up the great work!
@lynnmitzy1643
@lynnmitzy1643 2 жыл бұрын
Oh , the lady that's tracking the zircons...why do I have a memory of her ? Did I see a video somewhere, maybe two years or more now ? Thank you, professor.
@lynnmitzy1643
@lynnmitzy1643 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, yes, it could be 4 years, I should have waited, you answered 👍🏼💖
@bevinbrush4822
@bevinbrush4822 2 жыл бұрын
The Snake River has been to different locations around Idaho Falls. I know this due to the cobble stones two meters down under my home.
@zazouisa_runaway4371
@zazouisa_runaway4371 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick ❣️
@ramblinrobs47
@ramblinrobs47 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched ancient Rivers of the Northwest before this and I was literally going to ask in the comments about the sand of saddle mountain. I've dug petrified wood on the top of saddle mountain and on the end of saddle mountain at the Columbia River you see that beautiful golden sand just pouring out.
@MountainFisher
@MountainFisher 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good spot on calm nights for stargazing with binoculars or a telescope.
@cmeyers3231
@cmeyers3231 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick , this is great and I need to get over there soon.
@laureneolsen8624
@laureneolsen8624 2 жыл бұрын
This was so interesting. Just imagine Snake River being there!! Seems like the Snake really gets around. What are those flat white things along the edge of the Columbia? Maybe greenhouses??
@annekennychapman2490
@annekennychapman2490 2 жыл бұрын
Orchards with massive and vast tents of cloth over them. They can assist organic growers and conventional growers with eliminating insect and bird damage, providing shade if needed, etc. This is becoming a more common practice, and is easily seen along the Columbia River from Vernita Bridge, all the way north to the Okanogan Valley.
@bagoquarks
@bagoquarks 2 жыл бұрын
@@annekennychapman2490 Thank you, that was quite informative .
@laureneolsen8624
@laureneolsen8624 2 жыл бұрын
@@annekennychapman2490 Thanks for the info Anne.😊
@paulebberson4884
@paulebberson4884 2 жыл бұрын
So we have moved on from looking for ghost volcanoes to looking for ghost rivers. Interesting to speculate how erosion deposits 'source' rocks in different patterns - presumably along the 'ghost' rivers. I do remember one You Tube where Nick was kicking Mt St. Helens ash deposits in Ellensburg - it might be interesting to see a map of those deposits now and how they are now concentrated in particular places from an initial roughly even coverage. Interesting stuff as always from Prof Zentner.
@foghornleghorn
@foghornleghorn 2 жыл бұрын
Looks very nice there cool geo. all so
@bagoquarks
@bagoquarks 2 жыл бұрын
"Ancient Rivers of the Pacific Northwest" would be my recommendation for new Nick Zentner viewers.
@skalmelid
@skalmelid 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, that's the first video I saw a couple of years ago and I've been hooked ever since :-)
@rayschoch5882
@rayschoch5882 2 жыл бұрын
Intriguing idea - I hope you can flesh it out a bit more in a future presentation. In the meantime, I always enjoy the vistas. I live on the flats at 837 feet in Minneapolis, and have to drive a couple hours southeast to the "driftless area" and the bluffs along the Mississippi to get a similar grand view.
@larrygrimaldi1400
@larrygrimaldi1400 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care about the science, just like the scenery on a clear sunny day.
@loslaynes
@loslaynes 2 жыл бұрын
So the Old Snake is the present day Clark Fork, more or less. I can understand the with the the eastward bound Yellowstone hotspot that that can drastically change the flow of rivers. There is more to this for us to see. The Missouri, the Yellowstone. How does this effect the potential flow of the Paleo Bell River system (potential paleo Hudson Bay drainage)?
@katiejo9585
@katiejo9585 2 жыл бұрын
Have you visited lower crab creek? Town closest is Smyrna. It is somewhere you might be interested in. Not far from where you are now.
@stevew5212
@stevew5212 2 жыл бұрын
Well how about that. Great work Lydia.
@todrobinson3733
@todrobinson3733 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick!
@moderndimension9632
@moderndimension9632 2 жыл бұрын
Standing by for a Saddle Mountain pop up…
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick! Many things to ponder here. I appreciate your thoughts and insights as always. I've been through this area many times over the years and never thought about the fact that the Snake River once came through here. Also, I've never climbed up top to the ridge you're on, so thanks for that too! Awesome views!
@lindataylor1127
@lindataylor1127 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Nick
@pelagicwanderer5216
@pelagicwanderer5216 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I love Saddle Mountain this time of the year. I was just out there Saturday through Sunday morning camping and taking photos. I might have seen your car on my way out. I’ll send you a photo or two by email.
@kayakangler7683
@kayakangler7683 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff, Professor. Do you have a more detailed map with the ancient route of the Snake River overlaying a modern map, especially in regards to the Idaho, Montana, Washington pathway?
@bagoquarks
@bagoquarks 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient Rivers of the Pacific Northwest, a presentation by Nick Zentner on KZfaq.
@daviddunn29
@daviddunn29 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks nick love your stuff
@faithijn8338
@faithijn8338 2 жыл бұрын
Another very interesting video and on another area of Washington and Idaho that's always been near and dear to my heart the Snake River Country, including Hell's Canyon. Look forward to more on this discovery of the path of the Snake. Now I mention to you that I followed the link in your lecture on the Ice Burg Erractics to Bruce Bjornstad's paper on Ice-Rafted Erratics and I am sad to say it is German! I speak a little but do not read German. I commented to him in the comment thread of that lecture asking about it in English but did not get a reply. Any suggestions are appreciated!
@natashagarrison9403
@natashagarrison9403 2 жыл бұрын
He means happy Mother’s Day.
@johnnash5118
@johnnash5118 2 жыл бұрын
What was the driving mechanism that uplifted Saddle Mtn? It’s GCC correct? Was there a Miocene “Hells Canyon” through the Bitterroot Range that eventually uplifted faster than erosion?
@Champstarrable
@Champstarrable 2 жыл бұрын
Another great place for me to explore when I visit central WA in two weeks. Speaking of that, any pop-up geology events possible between between 05-22 and 05-28 while I'm town?
@willcollins3045
@willcollins3045 2 жыл бұрын
Not every one can afford an expensive high quality muffler. Muffler boy is a perfect example of someone that just can't.
@barrym4079
@barrym4079 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, most of them pay big money to get one that makes the car much louder.
@hiker1658
@hiker1658 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Staisch's lecture on the Snake River: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMlogtKKtrCceqc.html
@jayhershey7525
@jayhershey7525 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when the Snake River ran through Central Washington. (I was but a lad at the time.)
@skalmelid
@skalmelid 2 жыл бұрын
What a great way to talk about this topic on location! Does anyone know what he white areas down by the river are?
@Anne5440_
@Anne5440_ 2 жыл бұрын
OK, there are sand dunes at Mattawa creek south of Wanapum dam. Is that sand from the Snake R. Or from the Columbia R.?
@micmclane
@micmclane 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like you had some beautiful weather today. Upriver it was not as nice (Ancient Lake). Some weird weather!
@SusanS588
@SusanS588 2 жыл бұрын
I was able to pull up the paper by doing a Google search on the author’s name and Snake River, but the URL for the link was enormous.
@SusanS588
@SusanS588 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDanEdwards I don’t know what a DOI is. I had no problem retrieving and saving the paper; it was just too long an addy to put in the comments.
@davidpnewton
@davidpnewton 2 жыл бұрын
@@SusanS588 DOI=Digital Object Identifier. It's a way of identifying things in a computer system in a persistent fashion. Links to websites suffer from something called link rot. In other words they stop working as things about the internet change. Since academics like a persistent method of citing and finding material someone came up with DOI as a standard.
@SusanS588
@SusanS588 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidpnewton THX!
@bevinbrush4822
@bevinbrush4822 2 жыл бұрын
Did Basin and Range cause the different paths of the Snake River? Did the Snake River have any interaction with the Salmon River or Clark River in Montana?
@Bitterrootbackroads
@Bitterrootbackroads 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not up on the time scale of mountain range uplifting. What was the proposed Snake River route going north from southern Idaho, into Montana, then back across Idaho to get to Washington? Seems there would be traces of it along the way, if one knew what to look for? Was it thought to be in areas currently east of continental divide?
@willbradley7450
@willbradley7450 2 жыл бұрын
Curious about sediment transport rates; HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR SAND TO TRAVEL FROM SOURCE TO SEA IN A FREE-FLOWING RIVER? roughly....
@MalFunktion1
@MalFunktion1 2 жыл бұрын
A new and interesting twist... Thanks! Is there a connection between Lydia's samples and that big pocket of sand at the base of Saddle Mtn (upstream face) next to the highway? I've always took it for granted that was loess.
@Rocket39Smoke14
@Rocket39Smoke14 2 жыл бұрын
Did the Bonneville Floods have anything to do with the Snake river running so far north?
@harryhadyou9364
@harryhadyou9364 2 жыл бұрын
So the sand down by vantage bridge along the river that blows up along the wall?
@usingerinamoapensis180
@usingerinamoapensis180 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be around Moses Lake area at the end of this week. Beetle hunt.
@annekennychapman2490
@annekennychapman2490 2 жыл бұрын
What type of beetles?
@usingerinamoapensis180
@usingerinamoapensis180 2 жыл бұрын
@@annekennychapman2490 Tiger Beetles
@larryscaduto
@larryscaduto 2 жыл бұрын
Nick- what is the camera and gizmo you are using to video? Thanks
@jeffbybee5207
@jeffbybee5207 2 жыл бұрын
What are the white and green fields acrost the river?
@kc7brj
@kc7brj 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, living in the Tri-cities I know this area. My question is, Is there any evidence that the Columbia and Snake rivers are still migrating? I know its a slow process over time but can it be detected now?
@georgeemeny6123
@georgeemeny6123 2 жыл бұрын
Does ash fall out from Mt St. Helens contaminant or confuse any evidence involving sand?
@jadefinchscene5644
@jadefinchscene5644 2 жыл бұрын
Nick do you know any geologists working (currently or previously) in northern Utah? almost Idaho, not far from where lake Bonneville drained. i live here and would like to know more about what is surrounding me, similar to what you are teaching about Washington.
@7inrain
@7inrain Жыл бұрын
Shawn Willsey. He is on YT too.
@johnjunge6989
@johnjunge6989 2 жыл бұрын
Can limestone be dated, like the sand? Or does it have to have zercons? I assume only fossils would be dateable in limestone?
@KOOLBadger
@KOOLBadger 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been to Snake River Canyon. My brother tried to kill me there. I was only three..
@shlby69m
@shlby69m 2 жыл бұрын
We are but ants, on a leaf, floating down a river. Going where? Only time will tell.
@nitro13333
@nitro13333 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Nick. Would the gap the Columbia flows through at this location be of similar origin to, say, the Wallula Gap, i.e the ice-age floods helped to carve through the higher elevations. Or is the ridge you are on recently uplifted and the Columbia has maintained its position?
@nitro13333
@nitro13333 2 жыл бұрын
I believe your pop-up at Sentinal Gap has answered this exquisitely!
@brianlhughes
@brianlhughes 2 жыл бұрын
Spokane river?
@hiker1658
@hiker1658 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Staisch also recently presented on the Yakima Fold Belt: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hM5_Z6hevqzbloU.html
@mattwhalen892
@mattwhalen892 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever gotten lost while walking and talking
@snarky_user
@snarky_user 2 жыл бұрын
Not MY passenger car.
@haroldtanner9600
@haroldtanner9600 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you carried out someone else’s beer can.
@denniscarver3668
@denniscarver3668 2 жыл бұрын
That's not Wanapum Dam, it's Rocky Reach dam. Wanapum is down river, near Vantage
@Enos3325
@Enos3325 2 жыл бұрын
Nick has it right. Rocky Reach is way up by Wenatchee. Vantage is upriver from Saddle Mountain, at the second bridge you can see beyond the dam.
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