Please please please..you guys gotta react to Andor. It's the best Star Wars series out there now...

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He reminds me so much of Sokka dying at his own jokes

It kinda does tbh. Especially if its a dialog heavy scene and he just laughing loudly so the others miss it aswell. Then we have another dune 2 situation

@@charliecederblad8900 Wasn't gonna say it but, yeah. I'm glad he got it out of his system quickly here haha

@@TheJerbolwhat’s the Dune 2 situation 😅

A lot of people don't remember the "Heaven's Gate" cult that offed themselves in San Diego, California in the 90s without an "imminent" (even if unbelievable) threat...the start of this episode is NOT that far off from reality.

This is right here. I don't understand why people feel that because they were working with aliens, that means that their lives don't matter that killing them was for the greater good. I find Auggie's feelings valid, I mean, a tech I envisaged and built to help people was then used as a weapon to murder people, including innocent kids. Hell no, I'd be done with them too.

oh even the beginning of book 2! they are doing the whole story mostly chronologically then

@@marcobiotic Yes, chronological storytelling. They don't want to confuse people.

Definitely, since the books go back and forth

Many people hate this because this ss so different from the book, but all i see is their dedication to make more ss

is that what they did for the Chinese version. Or did they jump around like the book?

I like that she knew what she was doing, because she was taking revenge for the death of her friend, but regretted it as soon as she understood the price of bloodlust.

Yeah, it’s better than when something traumatic happens to a character and then they are back to normal quickly like nothing ever happened.

Fuck her lol I'm glad she's gone for couple episodes, my least favorite character ngl

Also there’s the usual bullshit of people throwing money at big wars and drama and not, you know, feeding the poor.

I cant find it annoying actually. her emotions and reactions are so real. If Jin was there to witness it firsthand I'm pretty sure her stance will waver too.

If you know where that's going...bruh.

It's about to be 💧☄️🌏🚀🛶☂️▫️🌌 I CAN'T WAIIIITTTT 🤤

Of course it would have been funny if the San-Ti said 400 years, and they showed up in 100 like "surprise, we figured out how to lie too"

@@Wouldyoukindly4545or they just keep improving their tech on the ship , and they still cant lie so they send messages like “200. 88. We’re coming in 22 years now!😄”

@@Wouldyoukindly4545👀

That and cults have been known to mass unalive themselves at the drop of a hat. Like when comets come by. I'm not surprised if the ones who hanged themselves on the lamposts are members of a cult.

Very true

I think the opposite, she makes the same argument as those who do not believe in climate change in the sense that if humanity cannot change the climate why worry about those who are yet to come. Same thing about Hiroshima and weapons, she tries to distance herself from everything and for me she ends up being a hypocrite, without the San-ti her research would continue and would inevitably be used as a weapon just like with the combustion engine and plastic, the The irony is that when she published the research on the Internet, someone somewhere would use it for purposes contrary to hers, in other words, it went around in a circle and ended up in the same place.

I don't understand how people can find her annoying. Her technology sliced kids up into pieces. That's not something you can just shrug off

She's extremely annoying, she was annoying from the beginning. It all started with "are you with someone??"

@@JustJeff777 Yeah, like are you in a relationship with him or not? Stop sighing and sulking when he's with other people. She kept acting like he shouldn't do anything but cater to her whenever she just calls him out of the blue

exactly I mean this series shows examples of realistic reactions from different people. You can’t have a person that has trauma and guilt because it’s their own fault that they killed innocent people/children get over it the next day.

I read that last week. If you remember the ending, it does relate to how this story ends up.

Meh all the episodes dragged where they tried to focus the story on the sick friend. Ruined most of the last couple of episodes for me.

Sounds like someone who would punk out and sell out to the aliens.

@@CuidightheachODuinn Expressing grievances about the death of chidlren makes you a traitor? If the world shared your moral code, the aliens would be right in invading us.

​@@CuidightheachODuinneveryone's gangsta when it comes to fiction please sit down 😂

She CHOSE to kill whoever was on the boat. She's still annoying. Those people on the boat are the same as the lady who killed Jack. She was apart of that group since she was a kid.

​@@JustJeff777even Oppenheimer grieved after his bomb killed thousands, even when they were in a state of war.

You get it!

Yeah, I agree. In the book, they planned to destroy us right from the start, and it was the reason Wien-Tie invited them even despite the warning. Destruction of human race was what she wanted.

I have a feeling it wouldn’t change a lot their minds at all.

@@jaredf6205 Just like any real math, some will, some won't. Note that I said "hardcore religious" so that leaves out a lot of non-hardcore people who are probably more resilient against this reality.

Some religious people. But most believers are basically like "If God created humans then he could make other things" so its not the earth shaking thing that it would have been like 100 years ago or more.

​@@Caedus696Yup.

@@jaredf6205 I mean Dinosaur fossils and basic logic hasn’t, why would Aliens change their minds, lol

man i wouldve been like nope after seeing that im good for the day not above my pay grade lol

Auggie annoyed me too when I first watched it and still does, and my problem isn't that she's a character with different opinions, that's fine too set up a character to be annoying and antagonistic. My problem is that a vocal minority of people AGREE with her who watch the show. Like... what? On my list of priorites the survival of the human race as well as the earth is a couple billion echelons above, the nutter cultists who sold out the human race and are factually worse than nazis in the total amount of destruction theyll cause.

"Any number of those kids could've grown up to just help the aliens, or wanting revenge for their parents" So you advocate for punishing people for the crimes they could commit rather than crimes that they have committed. They're children. They're malleable. They're futures are not set in stone. "When it's a battle for the continuation of our species, anything goes" Anything goes? Really? Do you have any idea what kind of heinous sht you can get away with with that kinda logic? It's easy talking about sacrificing kids when they're not your own. If you're on the side that can easily shrug off the death of innocent children (and they were objectively innocent), how tf are you not the villains in this story?

The lady who killed Jack is a perfect example. She's been apart of their cult since she was a child.

​@@pintolerance785none of that means she isn't allowed to grieve about how her invention was used to killed children too.

I don’t think Jin Cheng will be a 1:1 parallel to Cheng Xin. I honestly think Auggie is more inline with that character. I don’t know how they are going to handle it, but the fact that people already hate Auggie for similar reasons to why people hate Cheng Xin. And specially with Jin answering “Someone who fought back”, I mean I’m sure you know very well that’s not Cheng Xin, unless this is supposed to be a VERY ironic line. And regarding the “who gave you the right to decide for all of us”, every time I see that part, I always think of the same answer: No one gave me the right. No one will ever have that right. I had the power to do it and I took it. I don’t agree with Ye Wenjie, of course, but that question just bugs me.

​@jon_odinson yea boi I really don't understand why so many people (especially western audience) couldn't emptlathize with Ye wenjie situation and strongly sided on Jin on the "I I I who gave you the right".

@@jon_odinson well.. in the games.. Jin Cheng cares so much about the kid.. i think this is already parallel to Cheng Xin.. San-ti know her and her actions very well.. not Auggie.

@@DTan-sz3we Jin does have a lot of Cheng Xin elements, but she’s also very different. She sees herself as “someone who fought back”

@@jon_odinsoni think auggie and jin will both be like cheng xin in different ways.

That would be a great series for them to cover, but at 62 episodes, it's a heavy lift.

Cuz like San Ti said they don’t know how to lie so i totally took that as their common sense is to just tell their intentions to the enemy unlike us humans

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@@knaditya8228 Except they do know how to lie by omission. That's why they're able to create these false representations of themselves in the "game." Clearly they're capable of some level of keeping secrets as well, since the San Ti that received Ye Wenjie's message implied that Earth could remain hidden as long as they didn't send another message. It may not be lying per se, but the San Ti are clearly able to just not say things.

I’m not a soldier either but I know what’s more important she’s just being selfish

I wouldn't mind Auggie's reaction, but the fact that she has to prove herself correct by demonizing Wade & Raj really bothers me. I mean it's ok that you don't have a stomach for such violence, and it's even impressive that you have a line that you don't want to cross, but Raj wasn't incorrect either. Sitting behind a computer thinking you're above the violence will not mitigate the fact that someone has to go to the mud and get their hands dirty.

​@@n1nja_x_assault864You want reaction, didn't you?

​@@n1nja_x_assault864knowing and feeling are not the same thing. You're this old and don't know something so obvious.

She built nanotechnology razer wires that can cut through literally anything like butter, and she never thought it was going to be used against people. 😐 I don't care what her Twitter validating intentions were it's obvious that technology was going to be used in that way. And btw if aliens are coming to CONQUER THE WORLD I think that the deaths of some complete and total nutters who sold out the entire not just human race but every single thing on the planet, yeah they don't matter in the grand scheme of things. You people who defend the deaths of these crazies are the same people who go on Twitter and are like, "Yeah if I saw a nazi I would errm punch them and break their neck." Drinks soylent. These people are 100x worse than fascists.

lmao right? Her reaction is completely valid, I don't get why they don't get that????

Disclaimer, I ofc never was in a situation where I had to choose somebody to live and somebody to die, but I like to think that I would be able to see beyond the scope of my own person when the entire planet is in danger and the people who lost their lives were actively trying to mass murder our entire species. Which is why I imagine people find her decisions annoying, to not be able to let that go and see that she would be saving more than she is dooming.

@@gervoh validated opinion. but thing is, not everyone is built the same. auggie, throughout the show, wears her heart on her sleeve. she's very sensitive despite her tough exterior

@@gervoh i also would like to think of it that way, but i also realise that if i found out a bunch of those people that were slaughtered by the invention i made were *children* who didn;t do anything wrong, yeah i would quite literally never recover from that and would just not talk with anybody for a good few months.

i mean, she KNEW what she was doing, she doesnt get to play the victim afterwards. she is just as guilty as mr wade

its not about "helping us" its about humans needing a 3rd party to judge them for their actions when they wont themselves, not a stretch when she watched her society lynch her father in front of her and then literally strip a forest barren

@@sangun123 that still wouldn't make sense, the alien she spoke with first made it clear the members of their species that would come to our planet wouldn't be peaceful. So there would be no "judging", they would be worse than the people that killed her father and in fact do use similar methods because like the communists the aliens also want to kill our science

I hate her character. She's so selfish. She thinks the world revolves around her. A lot of ppl in the world have gone through bad shit but it didn't turn them into genocidal maniacs. There's no reason she can give that will make it OK to do what she did. And right now she's sitting on a high pedestal blaming everyone but herself. You'd think being an old woman now, she'd be wiser but nope. She's even more stupid and self centerd as ever. She annoys me so much.

I hate her character. She's so selfish. She thinks the world revolves around her. A lot of ppl in the world have gone through bad shit but it didn't turn them into genocidal maniacs. There's no reason she can give that will make it OK to do what she did. And right now she's sitting on a high pedestal blaming everyone but herself. You'd think being an old woman now, she'd be wiser but nope. She's even more stupid and self centerd as ever. She annoys me so much.

​@@sangun123 imagine for a second that instead of Ye Wenjie the Physicist, you were talking about Ye Wenjie the Pastor/Priest. Sounds kind of what a fanatic would say about their God, doesn't it?

We’re they reacting to it ?

@@93queenv I'm confused too. I remember them reacting to it, even season 2 but now it's all gone. But their acc got hacked so I guess they still haven't got it all back...

It's even on patreon

@@JustSomeLunaticW.OAMustache ohhhh probably

its also ironic that they are making fun of the people at the beginning for reacting that way for something that will happen 400 years in the future but when Auggie says don't worry about it cause its far away they call her an L character.

@@SarumanTheStinky Because killing yourself over something that wont happen in your lifetime vs diverting critical efforts and solutions for deterring a more advanced civilization on their way to enslave/kill your species are two different thing.

Even if being so irrational and hot-headed for an allegedly top scientist makes sense, doesnt cancel the fact that the character is annoying ah

​@@srakotanishe1945 only if you have a severe deficiency of empathy.

@@calvintyler9281 and i can tell you possess a high emotional intelligence by you making assumptions about other peoples personalities just because they have different opinion on a fictional character😭😭

No because I don’t have the mental maturity of a 5 yr old. If one person does me wrong, I will hate that person forever but not everybody

@@slimerewoods5766 easy for you to say without being in Ye's shoes, without living her life, her experience. Ye certainly didn't have the mind of a 5 year old. and it isnt as simple as hating one person. She saw her father brutally murdered on stage for some stupid belief, she was betrayed by two people who she thought she could trust. she saw the stupidity of her fellow people believing in non-scientific religious belief and how it gets people killed and gets in the way of scientific process. How selfish humans are to kill the planet for their personal greedy gain. I can understand why in her position she lost faith in humanity and honestly probably wanted revenge mostly.

I think I know why there are a vocal minority of people who agree with a defend Auggie, it's because she parrots the ideas that these Twitter folks have, how the big men upstairs in things like the government who are realistically trying to do the best they can for their citizens but either make mistakes due to being human or due to systemic things that need to happen like keeping allies happy that we don't like but need. It's so much easier for these people to not use their brains and instead say that they're all fascists and evil. She squawks about things like world peace, giving potable water to people who don't have it Yada Yada it's just an example of utopian ideals that people parade around on the internet for easy likes from others but in reality aren't realistically plausible.

You can't do that though, enter somebody's life after being diagnosed with cancer and for sure dying and asking for their love, because it's unfair to that person, it's the same as when someone proposes to someone who they don't actually have a big connection to in front of a crowd of people, because they can't say no and it's unfair to them. Sure it would be good to talk to her about how he had feelings for her, maybe knock boots with her for a night but you can't just force yourself into someone's life, knowing that you're gonna leave them.

I think people are way too harsh on the character

@@jeffbachman2949I don’t think so she’s being selfish

Technically… soldiers still have to follow rules of war and killing innocent children in war is still a grievous crime. Getting cut by her wires is also a really bad way to go, realistically if you are unlucky you’d stay alive for minutes after being three pieces.

​@@n1nja_x_assault864She being humane.

⁠@@GewalfofWivia Yeah, true, but in war many innocents die; children included despite the Geneva convention. Not saying killing children is right: but when the survival of our species is at stake: it was bound to happen, sadly. These guys obviously aren’t normal soldiers operating under strict laws. They’re approved to do whatever it takes by most governments of Earth. It’s either kill everyone on the Judgement Day or not have the data to know what we’re up against to prepare and become extinct in 400 years. It’s a fucked up situation all around. I don’t blame Auggie, she has a conscious and that’s good but in a galactic war where the survival of our species it as stake; you need SOLDIERS who will do whatever it takes. That’s just the way war is; it’s never pretty: following a convention or not. A good example of this is how the Northern Vietnamese soldiers held back the U.S. (a far more advanced and uniformed army). They were brutal and they did whatever it took in the war. If you want to defeat someone better than you; you can’t play by “rules”.