The 'Haymarket' roundabout near melbourne uni and the royal melbourne hospital, where Flemington Road meets Elizabeth St, has to be the worst/ most confusing intersection. Every time I go through there, multiple cars don't know what lane to be in and try cut across all 3 lanes in the middle of each cycle resulting in near misses and way less cars getting through per light cycle. Every entry point into the intersection has the issues, mainly due to the trams and the lanes of traffic being separated by garden bed mediums so you need to be in the correct lane some distance before you get to the intersection. Love your videos Phillip.

Another vote for the Haymarket Roundabout, it’s bad enough already but the trams through the middle of it add a lot of extra spice.

Check out the 5 ways roundabout system in Mooroolbark, 3 roundabouts all together.

The worst = the mega-section at Montague & Lorimer, and the adjacent/agglomerated Westgate Freeway interchange. That is truly a gigantic monster of a mega-section that extends around 300m north-south, and at it's widest is effectively 13 - yes THIRTEEN - lanes wide. A pedestrian trip from the NE side outside DFO South Wharf Shopping Centre, to the SW side at Brady/Johnston St, Port Melbourne is over 360m and crosses 29 separate lanes of traffic, across 13 separate crossing sections. Part of the mega-section includes on/off ramps to the WG Freeway from 10 different directions. Oh and in addition, while not directly interacting with the intersection, there are 13 further freeway lanes flying over the top of it.

After watching so many American-centric videos on KZfaq, it's refreshing to see something so local and so well researched. Liked and Subscribed! This video answers questions I never knew I had!

Please check out the junction in North Essendon - Mount Alexander / Keillor / Bulla / Lincoln Roads - with the 59 tram going through it.

The biggest crime is that the Funereal Home on the corner of Police road Springy went up for sale a few years ago and the government didnt buy the land. Would have been a crucial piece of land for fixing the intersection. Now it just has cheap houses on it

When I was at high school in the late 70's, we had an exam task to fix some of Melbourne's road intersections. I chose the Springvale junction to work on. I used to go there to study the traffic patterns and for me it became obvious that both Springvale rd and Police/Center rds needed to become a double elevated bridge roads that would have off and on ramps to each other and Princess hwy. I wish I kept it as it gave me 100% marks in year 5 and the design was really good.

My mum was involved in a t bone crash at this intersection in the early 90s, nearly losing her right leg and completely writing off her car, i drive through there regularly now and still get confused by all the different turning lanes and lights and everything, very overwhelming for someone who’s never been through there before!

I’ve been stuck at the Springvale junction when the lights weren’t working. Absolutely terrifying.

So incredibly pleased to see this done! The existence of this intersection says a lot about the mess that is the initial planning of Springvale, Clayton and Oakleigh.

Bulla Rd and Keilor Rd in Essendon. Pascoe Vale and Mt Alexander in Moone Ponds. And Spring and High Street in Reservoir

Excellent video. I can remember when spaghetti junction only had lights on Princes highway west and eastbound. The rest of the feeder turns had stop signs. It was a nightmare and this was AFTER they realignment of Springvale road. A roundabout would be useless and frustrating and also just as dangerous. An overpass from the slight hill (at the intersection which turns into the Coles shopping centre) back over the Princes highway would mean Springvale road would be continuous at that point and the underlying road network would be easier to navigate. It will probably never happen in my lifetime as it would be expensive and make the local shop owners angry. The other thing is that the government is making an absolute killing with the newly installed speed and red light cameras at the junction. The green sequence can vary considerably at different times of the day catching drivers out and the 3 to 4 second yellow sequence is a joke because the intersection is so wide you will never clear it in time. Licence to print money for our cash-strapped government!

For me the Pascoe Vale Road, Mount Alexander Road and Ascot Vale Road intersection in Moonee Ponds is the most confusing especially when there’s a bus stop right in the centre of it all plus looking out for trams as well

Philip, outstanding research and documentary as we have come to expect. Many thanks !

P turns were all the rage at the time. Cranbourne road Frankston got one to help with traffic between Eastlinks construction and the opening of Peninsula Link, but it doesn’t do much these days since its opposing turn lane is still active.

I second the motion on that Moorolbark 5 ways cluster FUK !!! I have actually looked at some old pics of this intersection and it was a collection of old goat tracks that never was re-routed.

Interesting to see that John Allison Monkhouse Funeral directors were once on the northeastern corner of the junction and replaced a row of houses previously there. In recent years the funeral home was demolished to be itself replaced with a row of apartments seen at 4:12, all facing west and overlooking the intersection - couldn't be too pleasant a place to live!

The intersection that most spooked me in my first months in Melbourne was Somerville Rd heading east trying to cross Geelong Road. Not expecting that merely crossing a major road to carry on straight to be difficult I think we drove down Roberts St by mistake. In the years since then I've never needed to repeat that exact crossing so I expect it's a rare path to want to follow.

Great research. In the early 60s on a Sunday mum and dad took us to visit people who lived off Police road. Coming from the city on Princess Hwy. was always a treat. I would ride with my friend from his house to the intersection to watch the car crashes. Never failed. I think it didnt have traffic lights on all the roads. Not sure but was a hectic place to cross. There were far less lanes then ,too. Thanks for your efforts and brilliant research. Kororoit Ck Rd in Altona used to cross Geelong Rd near where the Laverton speedway was located . Imagine 60mph speed limit on Geelong Rd and a flat uncontrolled crossing. More Sunday fun.Quite a few deaths from memory. Not to mention Fitzgerald Rd crossing both Dohertys and Boundary Rds Laverton Nth still unsigned in the early 70s. Lots of deadly crashes there.

I was speechless when they built up the Coles / Spotlight / Supercheap shopping centre in the early 2000's. Now they've made more horrid housing on the old John Allison Monkhouse site. It's unbelievable to think they never made Princess Hwy as an overpass. It would solve so many of the issues. Cheers Phil ✌️

Hi Phil, I grew up in Springvale, I already knew about the huge problem with Spaghetti Junction, they will never get it right, and just recently they have installed red light cameras that just seem to go off at a drop of a hat, I don't know how fly overs would have worked. I wonder how the traffic would have been if a road way had of gone though many many years ago, that road way was Withworth Avenue, it was supposed to go through from Springvale Road to Westall Road, how I know about this was my parents bought a block of land in the mid 1950's on East State named Glendale Estate and the subdivision map showed that Withworth Avenue was to go from Springvale Road to Westall Road, just thought I'd give a bit of local history.

Being a from Melbourne I love your content. I have learnt so much from your videos. I have spent a lot of time waiting for those lights to change. Come to think of it I'm still waiting 😅

Thank you Philip great information and video.

You're doing a great service here Phillip! I've really enjoyed watching your videos, looking forward to future vids! The Springy Rd / Dandy Rd intersection is a nightmare, I was actually just driving through it today, doing a right turn from Springvale Rd South, onto Princes Hwy going towards Dandenong. Painful and really confusing. St Kilda (Fitzroy St) has always confused me, it might be good to do a vid about that difference in grade roughly where the Espy is. Or St Kilda Junction. Mooroolbark's famous "5 Ways Roundabout" is another VERY confusing one. And quite a dangerous one - Mt Alexander Rd in Essendon, beside The Linc. A couple of suggestions of possible future vids: - the origins of the CBD hook turns - the history of some of our universities or the Botanical Gardens - more railway history from wider Victoria, that stuff is fun 😊

Good video. Thanks for providing links to resources, that's great.

great video as always Philip!

The waterway that caused the discontinuity of Springvale Road is the eastern tributary of Mile Creek with the upper catchment in the retarding basin between the Monash Freeway and Mazenod College. The western tributary continues northwest towards the Clayton North area passing under Wellington Road near Monash University. They meet west of Springvale as a channelised waterway through there and Noble Park except for the dammed area in Sandown Racecourse before reverting to a semi natural state to Dandenong Creek. The channelisation of it was to deal with the flooding the area was notorious for in the early days.

I remember driving through the intersection on Springvale Road from the late 1960s. There were always tow trucks lined up in anticipation at night, especially Fridays and Saturdays.

This is a sweet video! Would love a look at the triple roundabout setup in Moorolbark 😊😊

I cannot image how a round about would work here.

Nice video :D This junction always has a lot of traffic during peaks (even off-peaks), and I've found that a lot of the cause of it are the short traffic cycles. For example, in 1 cycle, Centre Rd gets a green for a really short amount of time, before switching red again, so much so that most of the time cars are jammed up to halfway between Westall Rd and Springvale Junction; at that point you might as well take Princes Hwy.

I actually lived near and traveled through that for 5 of the years mentioned it having so many fatalities. It is a bit of a mess trying to go certain directions if you haven't done it before, and then the other obstacle of other poor buggers who haven't. Its worth checking out 5 ways in Mooroolbark, that's a bit of a mess but at least I find you can sort of see from a distance the route you need to take. Thats the biggest issue with this intersection - if you aren't starting/finishing on Princes or Springvale you often can't see from the start point where you need to be to get where you want to go 🤣 The hazard at 5 ways is crossing 3 bloody roundabouts and sometimes not realising you need to give way 3 separate times in a short space.

Try the roundabout / traffic light concoction at the end of the Mornington Peninsula Freeway at Rosebud with the freeway extension! Even after community consultation about poor foot traffic movement and confusing lane changes in the roundabouts supposedly corrected it still is a s...show. Alos there is a lot of history for the Nepean Highway, Jetty Rd and Eastbourne Rd areas that you could explore!

The best thing is I go through all Essendon junction, Haymarket and Springvale junction on the same day twice a week. You get the hang of it. Ding ding, tram!

If you're maintaining direction, the Springvale intersection is reasonably straight forward, turning right is always an issue. There's actually a worse intersection 1.5km's north east from this one, the unnecessary Blackburn Rd into Westall Rd scramble.

I always enjoy your videos Phil, well done. The Springvale Rd intersection has always been a problem. It’s main purpose is being the perfect example of what shouldn’t be done. The roundabout option is not practicable, given the traffic volumes using this intersection. I believe the only realistic solution is the underpass and overpass solution. - Dandenong Road being the dominant thoroughfare should remain at grade. - Springvale Road should become an overpass. - Centre Road should become an underpass. The turning lanes will become ramps. Some right turn options may need to be omitted to help minimise footprint. Upstream or downstream P-turns can be added to compromise. The links to the minor roads need to be shifted away from the intersection to create space. This approach could be progressively implemented of several stages to keep the intersection open. It is all do-able and utilises many of the innovative technologies developed under the rail crossing removal project.

I live in Moonee Ponds, and aside from the infamous Moonee Ponds Junction, I just feel the northwest (from North Melbourne up past Essendon) is full of weird intersections, roundabouts etc.

Interesting video. I have never had any problems with the intersection.

The round about with trams setup in Essendon north is a doozy too

You could have also mentioned Frankston's P-turn as well. I had heard Springvale was Spring Vale, much like Lang Warrin. Although Langwarrin actually started out in Pearcedale, which is why Langwarrin Creek runs through Pearcedale, but not through Langwarrin. Happy to explain that whole saga to you if you like or lend you some books and point you in the right direction.

Have a friend rear ended at the Springvale junction but also know somebody who had an accident at the Haymarket roundabout. There may be newer issues but you’ve got to give it to one of these two simply for the longevity of their problems.

Your videos are the best!

Would love a video on the old Hume highway (Victoria section). Thank you! Great vids

Well you talked about Kew Juncition before... I think Moonee Ponds Junction is quite fascinating, but not as confusing... I remember how the junction with city link and Flemington rd was a problem which could have been (IMO), with just alternating traffic, but opted with more complicated option, by adding a bridge/sliplane and still alternating traffic... Not an intersection but the exit of Bell st from Tullamarine is a mess... Anyhow enjoyed your videos as usual...

Punt Rd/Swan St. Possibly the worst road redevelopment I've ever encountered - likely due to the limited space/options, but it is exponentially more confusing than it was prior to being 'fixed'.

Please have a look at Camberwell Junction. It's equally complex.

Im surprised this wasnt covered in the video..... The OLD name for this junction in the 1970s & 80s was "Blanchard's corner" because there used to be a huge Holden dealership at the intersection called Blanchards motors, they were there until early 2000s I believe(?)....google has links to their photos & history.🙏🤟

I used to commute through this junction driving NW on PH from Dandenong, then taking Centre Road to go W. Unless you are used to it, a new driver at the intersection would be very confused, if they don't understand the road layout, lanes and signs. No wonder they keep crashing to this day.

I’ve always found it easy to navigate only those who don’t pay attention end up in accidents at Springvale Junction. The best change they made was to remove one set of lights and increased the area of the intersection.

Thanks Phil. My brother lives in Mulgrave and only last week had the classic crash of a car coming from Centre Rd, wanting to turn right into Springvale Rd. My brother was on Springvale Rd, heading West to go onto Police Rd and got the green light. Instant T Bone at 15km's hr., thankfully no injuries. Seems the other driver jumped the orange/red light on Centre road and was in no mans land when they connected. Fair to say no mans land seems to covers about 2000m2 at this blackspot🙃 Sad thing is, the insurance companies will determine who's premium will go up. I wonder what their algorithm, based on stats, will show who was at fault?? Wait and see. Keep up the great work! Luv your channel👍

I did an epic burnout there once, in my Torana.

St Kilda junction has been tamed. But I can remember the old woodblocked junction with trams added to make it interesting. Eight roads met at this point approximately. Making it an absolute terror. Using grade separation and making the Nepean Highway take a different route from the Princes Highway on the approaches have made it easier to navigate WITHIN the intersection but planning must be done to avoid being trapped on a road you don't want to take. Nelson St, Wellington St, Barkly St, Fitzroy st, Albert St, st Kilda Road north and south, Punt road, Queens Road and the princes highway. Speeds were lower but it make the springvale road intersection seem like child's play.

Oh gosh! I sometimes go through here to try and get to Police Road! This is definitely the most confusing junction. I would have also chosen the old rounadabouts along Williamsons Road and Porter Street and Fitzsimons Lane and Main Road as also very confusing and dangerous. It is a whole lot better now with traffic lights.

i drive through it often and always think it's too developed now to rebuild this and also i think how did it get this way!? great vid. maybe they should look into a combination of some of those improvements.

Reservoir Junction (High St/Spring St/Cheddar Rd/Broadway) for my least favourite junction to drive through. Especially back before they replaced the level crossing for the South Morang train line with sky rail.

I'm living in Melbourne but haven't always done so. And it's bizarre to me how everyday/matter-of-fact the people here seem to treat these things. I'm sure there's horrible challenges with developing public infrastructure as city expands, I've got sympathy for that. But this intersection is one of many many places that seemingly haven't been thought out in the slightest. If other forms of public infrastructure were as badly designed as to have that level of danger, they'd be closed until they were rectified. Browsing the comments and it's all just so normalised for everyone, it's really wacky. Having said all that, I really appreciate the vid, the research and the images. Not only a fan of local histories but this helps shed some light on how situations like this evolve in the first place. It's good work :)

I think turning one of the roads into a bridge that goes over the others would help significantly and open up other options for fixing the intersection.

It's a shocker. I had to stay at the hotel on the NW wedge, I gave up trying to get across to the food strip on the SE corner for dinner.

A couple of times I've been on Center Rd heading eastbound and accidentally ended up on the Princes Hwy heading towards Dandenong.

I live near here. Go through there most days. Once coming from Centre Rd and turning across into Princes Hwy heading east some 4WD bloke was blowing his horn because I was waiting for the oncoming traffic from Police Rd to pass.

You mentioned it - Swan St and Punt road would have to be one of the more confusing, mostly due to a lack of signage.

Intersection at Flemington Bridge is a nightmare, or really the three intersections around the triangle block: Citylink/Flemington Rd, Elliot Ave/Flemington Rd, Boundary Rd/Racecourse Rd. Add to that trying to cross Flemington Rd from Church St, and the 59/57 trams turning through there too! Lots of no right turn/no u-turn sections, but if you miss the spot then it’s a five minute drive up the road to the next spot so I see people turn all the time anyway (particularly trying to turn right from racecourse rd to boundary rd, they’ll cross the intersection and then do a u-turn over the tram tracks). Also lots of left turn slip lanes, from racecourse rd to boundary rd even has crossing lights for pedestrians to cross the slip lane! It’s all built to quickly get people from the Eastern Freeway to Citylink, despite also trying to stop them doing that because of complaints they get about the traffic through Elliot Ave, etc. So if you’re local traffic, or pedestrian/bike rider/pt user then it’s almost impossible to get around. Particularly frustrating because it’s a major pt interchange with the Upfield line, and a bike thoroughfare. Some of the tram stops have also been moved or changed in the past, usually in the name of speeding up the trip or pedestrian safety. The trams don’t have priority at intersections though, so the trip isn’t really faster than when it was first built (despite faster trams and less stops). Pedestrian safety barriers have been put in at the tram stops, but they just mean that cars don’t have to stop when the tram stops, so people have to sprint across several lanes of traffic if their tram is about to arrive (and it’s 10-30 minutes until the next tram). The bike ride from there to Melbourne Uni is faster than anything (including driving) but it takes at least five minutes to cross the intersection to start, and the entire route is unsafe. There also aren’t any good crossings from the Capital City Trail to Flemington Rd to ride into the city. All the pedestrian crossings are on a timed loop, often only every second cycle and with really short crossing times. As a mostly able-bodied person, I still barely make it across in time. I do have sensory sensitivities, so trying to cross these roads often prevents me from leaving the house as I need to cross to once to get the train or 59 tram, and up to three times to the 57 tram or walk in Royal Park. The intersection at Elliot Ave is the worst, because there’s no protection from the sound/light/heat. Only some of crossings have TGSIs, the buttons aren’t always loud enough to hear over the road, and the footpath slopes often have issues which make them hard to use (such as the drainage design not working, so water pools in the slope instead into the street drain next to it, and the car wash next to it lets their water runoff into the gutter every day). Many only let you cross half the road before you have to wait at the crossing island for the next cycle, so I often see people walking up the concrete median strip to the tram stop. The footpaths and pt stops are always covered in rubbish, usually from 7Eleven as there’s one on two corners of those intersections, and there aren’t any bins at the tram stops. The roads are cleaned every night be street sweepers, but the footpaths and tram stops aren’t unless you put a complaint in to the council. Living next to this intersection is what got me interested in urban planning, because I wanted to figure out what went wrong over the years to cause this car-centric hellhole in the middle of Melbourne. It’s obvious the council wants to make some improvements, but they’re arterial roads so VicRoads/DOT has control. Just a couple blocks away there are some lovely, but run-down, mixed-use urban areas. There are lots of proposals to build apartment towers around this intersection because it’s close to transport, but it’s not easy to actually use that transport as a local! Some have already been built, but a friend who considered moving in told me it was so noisy that it was just infeasible. My house is completely boarded up and I can still constantly hear the traffic noise. Just because there’s a housing crisis, that doesn’t mean we need to force people to live in awful areas that don’t consider actual people because they used to be industrial zones. State Gov is also planning to knock down all the public housing around the corner, which is a real shame because it’s the only area with a real community around, even if it’s completely under-resourced. It’s not all negative though, there’s a great kebab place on Racecourse Rd, they do a tasty HSP!

Only suburb I really remember getting lost and frustrated was either Essendon or Strathmore. Do not remember having any issue at this Springvale Junction but do not drive through it very often. Overall the signs for Melbourne roads are fairly good and even if it a busy intersection there usually lots of signs leading up to it to have some idea how to navigate through it to get to the next destination. In comparison I literally hate the signs in Brisbane. It is like there is minimal signs to anything on their roads. If you see a sign to get off at some turn it usually occurs as you need to make the turn, rather than as you approach. So it very easy to miss so many turns off there. I hate the road planning in Queensland.

I've been a volunteer with the CFA for 8 years (3 of which I was assigned too Springvale CFA) and I can say the number of callouts we had (often both Brandon Park MFB and Springvale CFA both responded to major incidents here as it falls without both jurisdictions) was ridiculous. I would agree that this is probably the highest incident intersection in Victoria (possibly Australia) With fatal/major road collusions put aside, the number of minor crashes that happens is crazy. Some days we would have 2 or 3 callouts to separate crashes here. However, in low visibility and wet conditions it turns into a nightmare.

Would be awesome if you could do a video, for the that old building near Springvale station. I believe it was called the emptor distillation plant. Growing up in Springvale, would always walk past this ancient building !

Never found this intersection to be a problem - until the first time I tried turning right from Police Road into Princes Highway (city bound), nearly having a head-on with traffic turning right from Centre Road into Princes Highway. It looks like the part of the road they use is for you to use...

The interchange for the Monash and Eastlink can be confusing if you don’t drive it regularly. It isn’t helped by the proximity of Police Road forcing the interchange to have extra flyovers and confusing lane structure, also not aided by the Jackson’ Road on and off ramps being crammed in nearby. Navigation apps always seem to have an aneurysm here.

At last weeks Labor party meeting a Over Pass was mentioned

Cheddar Rd in Reservoir would be a good candidate for a video. Perhaps more so before the level crossing got removed, but I still think it'll be good to look at.

I've personally had an accident there a few years ago,, thankfully not serious. Would love a better solution, traffic is a pain, and people often speed up the service road outbound on Princes then jam in back on the main road (VIPs apparently) then fly into the set of shops on Springvale Rd so they can cut the corner.

Absolutely great video. Im a geologist at Monash university and i would love to know where you got this data from!

I'm old enough to have heard this junction described as "Spaghetti Junction" as a child and the name stuck with me, but this is the first time I've heard it from someone else in years. I've driven through this intersection pretty regularly for a while now as it's on my usual route to work, (I typically park and ride from Clayton Station) but have also had reason to both enter and leave this intersection in all directions at some time or another (though I'm sure I haven't experienced every combination of entry and exit point) Notable to my mind is that it's actually 3 separate intersections each with its own set of lights, though of course it's all co-ordinated in terms of the overall lights sequence. If there's one thing I think is most pressing to fix it's probably the approach along Police Rd. The right hand turning lane is too short, and I'd love to know who had the bright idea of having a bus route that stops in the left lane within 150 meters of the junction then have to cross a lane of already heavy traffic (during the morning peak) to said right hand turning lane within that same distance.

A fly-over of Dandenong Road across the intersection would ease congestion I reckon. Have to deal with the grumbles of local businesses and the new apartments though.

I think building a 4 lane underpass pass for the Princes Hwy with an SPUI at the top or more spaced apart. Because if it was spaced out it would slowly add traffic in/through it or if it was all together it would have less tiny waiting parts. I hope that made sense.

1915 when police paddocks road was built was the same year Dandenong got a water supply from the new aqua duct that came from what now is Churchill National Park. It’s a little off the trail but I found the pond that had stone work and hand made bolts.

The Plenty Rd Intersection at the M80 Ring Rd interchange in Bundoora was named the most dangerous crash hot spot in Australia for six consecutive years last year .

that intersection under the Reservoir rail line is so confusing. Its new but worth having a look at.

It's bad enough for local residents and still throws up dangerous and tricky situations I could only imagine an American or French tourist who are used to left hand drive and their roads being the opposite driving a hire car on holidays would be most likely terrified trying to negotiate this intersection

AGREE. It's a shocker . . .

Another one which is confusing is the mess that is Montague St where it meets Lorimer St and the West Gate Fwy

The Spagooter. Right turn onto Dandy from Centre rd is a death trap. Centre/Police Rd connect the M1, Dandy rd, East Link and Westall Rd, police rd has way to many heavy-combination vehicles for road with two schools on it.

Video suggestion: when when travelling north along Eastlink (M3) or the South Gippsland Fwy (M420) is there no way to turn east onto the Hallam Bypass (M1) without detouring on the Princes Hwy.

When i was on my P plates back in the late 90s early 00s... for me it was so confusing that i somehow could never end up where i want to be when trying to make a right turn at that junction. With the sat nav becoming better and widely available it has made this junction somewhat bearable.

I go through here every day

A Princes Highway overpass is the only solution here. Can't see why they'd need to buy up properties either, as there is enough space. The cost issue is laughable, considering blowouts on other road projects in the state.

This intersection should utilise different coloured line/lane markings with road signs aligning to show you what lane to follow to go in what direction

The Eastern end of the Westgate bridge. Easy if you know where you are going and are in the correct lane before you cross the bridge. Be in the wrong lane and be ready for a detour. Even more fun, getting on the bridge from South Melbourne

really! i think its like any other roads. i used to go pass there when i used to work around mulgrave. just follow the lights and your all good.

i think where hoddle street crosses the eastern freeway is pretty confusing, especially northbound. north is the right two lanes. east is the middle three. and west is the left lane. and just after that is the heildberg road ramp, where west is the first exit on the left and east is the second exit on the left. and you've also got the train station next to that - which is on the opposite side of hoddle street than the main clifton hill shops on queens paraade (not to mention all the trams at cliftion hill interchange tell you to use that station when the rushall station is both closer and you don't have to cross hoddle street.) actually, most of hoddle street's intersections are confusing

Surley a underpass and a roundabout above is a better set up?

I suspect the reason no-one wants to fix this is that the good options (such as grade separating the Princess Highway) are expensive and require land acquisitions (which means they would likely be unpopular) and the cheap options (like banning certain movements or closing certain roads) are also likely to be unpopular because they will force people to travel a different way to get where they are going.

Just going through it now

I don't usually find Springvale intersection too hard. I will add one i would like to know abiut the concept of is the changes at Punt Road /swan st intersection..they are Weird...and hella confusing when you actually drive in between lanes of opposing traffic, but the number of cars that get through on each volley of lights is amazing...big tick for the change.

Great video I live locally to here It needs some serious work to fix it On a side note, what is the story with all the weeds and rubbish on Melbournes Roads It seems every council has stopped maintaining them Might be a story to cover ??

The speeds cameras frequently malfunctioning and turning into strobe lights are a plus

I wonder if there are accurate statistics for the percentage of accidents per day per vehicle per day using the intersection. Has it decreased or increased over say every 5 year intervals. Is the increase or decreases and is that percentage consistent with other intersections.

I work in Moonee Ponds and deal with the junction daily. There's so many near misses here.between cars, trams and pedestrians. Thankfully, traffic us relatively sliw.

The only problem I have with Springy junction is the cars that come down the service road going away from the city and then expecting to be let in. there is nothing really wrong with design (apart from for pedestrians) its the drivers that are the problem. I think the best way to fix it would be to have an elevated road for Princes Highway through traffic.

Love it. Fix an issue with too many roads by building more roads lol