I hope you fired who ever was responsible for that mistake. The ScottJund Brand cannot allow such mistakes. 😅
@pistolmoth41986 ай бұрын
HE WAS INTHE CAN FOR 20 FUCKIN YEARS
@SzpanerPL16 ай бұрын
10 YEARS IN THE JOINT MADE YOU A FUCKI-
@pizzabeast24986 ай бұрын
hey scottjund what would you say are hillbillys good addons
@kurt79376 ай бұрын
@@pizzabeast2498probably two of them, I’ve tried variations of 1 and 2 sometimes zero. I found 0 addons and 2 to be equally stronger than 1. 3 still needs more testing. Good luck!
@101Fisan6 ай бұрын
Mikaela on the ground while Scott goes through a detailed analysis: 💀
@nickholas22336 ай бұрын
Good thing she's just a bot so war crimes are legal
@ScottJund6 ай бұрын
the bot will have a strongly worded response soon
@15waystosayspaghetti506 ай бұрын
@@ScottJundso hillbilly pre nerf was better than spirit, would you call him S- tier now?
@vividwizard61666 ай бұрын
Basekit killer buffs like faster M1 recovery and faster pallet break speed have affected Spirit highly yet still don't matter to Billy. Billy also has counterplay, and spirit does not, and with how bad map design is, against billy you are going to have so many ways to loop him. Its possible he might be A, but no higher than that.@@15waystosayspaghetti50
@mckookie29676 ай бұрын
Def better than Chucky @@15waystosayspaghetti50
@limpyleg15706 ай бұрын
don't let them to deceive you, 4-5 updates ago they tried to slip a straight nerf to billy.
@gimpy9986 ай бұрын
Can't believe Vile Scott wants Hillbilly nerfed
@bunanimates6 ай бұрын
real...
@minersheep82856 ай бұрын
Vile Scott is back at it again
@russrtspooling77026 ай бұрын
He is a behavior troll… take what Scott says with a grain of salt he lives to bash killers and get them nerfed.
@callofduty25516 ай бұрын
@@russrtspooling7702 Dog that's not even 100 percent true. This is the same shit people say about Otz and any other person that wants to give criticism.
@vincenzokarolflagiello91456 ай бұрын
@@callofduty2551 r/wooosh
@Peachrocks56 ай бұрын
Bold of you to assume Scott that they actually remember what they've done and believe they know what they are doing and the consequences of their decisions. Their logic they display in some of their posts kinda make it clear that they just turn random knobs and see what happens. This time they've just happened to turn knobs in a direction they've turned them previously.
@misteral90456 ай бұрын
This is how it's playing out: Quote from a dev stream shortly after the overheat mechanic introduced: "...so that's not how the world works, a lot of people put time and effort into this, so they're not just gonna scrap it. What we'll most likely do is go back later and try to improve it." And so now they've finally gone back and "improved it", while the add on nerfs long ago were more than enough, but yeah like you said they're just turning knobs. The overheat mechanic is still a problem, just in different ways.
@beh2566 ай бұрын
@@misteral9045God I remember they said the same thing with the first time they changed the hud like 1to1 lmao how is behavior this successful with this mindset
@Peachrocks56 ай бұрын
@@beh256They are successful because there is no real competition that is properly invested in. The others that have tried either made a fatal mistake, had devs that were more immature then the ones at BHVR (which is an impressive feat) and/or tried to get too greedy. Which again is impressive considering BHVR's greed. 'We don't want FOMO', BHVR: Here have lots of FOMO. :|. If anybody remotely competent took a serious attempt at the asymmetrical horror genre or even just asymmetrical genre, there would be a lot of money to be made without being remotely greedy. That's why everyone gets so excited when games like Evil Dead and Texas Chainsaw come around because they WANT something else to invest their time, money and mental energy into. Unfortunately everything thus far has failed miserably because most of them tried to cut corners. BHVR gets away with it cus licenses and the fact the base concept of chasing is excellent but so much gets in the way of that.
@Evalora6 ай бұрын
@@beh256 accidental success, nobody there or in the games scene expected goofy horror hide and seek was going to be 'the thing' and explode so massively but it did combine with a generally incompetent developer that expanded immensely off of it and only got even more clueless as quantity != quality and the result is on full display the players are the enablers, people love this game, they *worship* this game - they put 5-digit fucking hours into this game somehow, despite what they get in return
@Trident_Gaming036 ай бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I said on the ptb, it is was crazy no one was talking about it His cooldown movement speed is gonna make him annoying in the same way Chucky and old Xeno are
@Mike-lz7rg6 ай бұрын
If your bad at the game and don't know how to play survivor then it will be lol
@Pablo-pr4vg6 ай бұрын
@@Mike-lz7rg As you're defending low penalty misses? Make it make sense.
@kidscast58426 ай бұрын
Billy billy has to at least charge his saw, unlike xeno who could just right click and launch another tail straight after
@abcabcfirebreath6 ай бұрын
gonna be honost, I feel like the defining feature of hillbilly is high penalty for misses. If they nerf billy in the future I hope they focus on increasing the miss penalty instead of trying to change overdrive/the chainsaw speed increase@@Mike-lz7rg
@mymop44226 ай бұрын
not saying i disagree but billy is much harder than xeno and chucky plus his power has a charge rate that can easily be reacted to (unless its tuned carburetor + overdrive, maybe even a charge speed after stun/blind). he is also very map dependent, arguably less so with new changes. i say arguably because its much harder to control the new speeds and PC has to use a mouse only now, which isnt as reliable as Q and E.
@rockyroland58086 ай бұрын
Seeing as how his overdrive already buffs the cooldown( and everything thing else) i would be fine with removing the cooldown add-ons, or as a compromise change the add-on to only affect cooldown during overcharge, thus making it more telegraphed and putting more importance on the overcharge itself.
@Borkomora6 ай бұрын
I remember when dbd had that dark lighting and ambience, loading into the map only to hear the relentless charge of what you already knew was a god tier crack billy. What a time to be alive
@WaifuEndMyLaifu6 ай бұрын
I miss Skybilly
@lja19936 ай бұрын
The worst nerf :/
@vellycanelly74296 ай бұрын
I think this is a small trend with killers lately. Here and there, they have some fancy short cooldown on misses and hits and it feels unfair. Chucky, pre-nerf Xeno, and now Billy with his cooldown addons have this particular issue. I hope this isn’t super prevalent in the long run because it’ll just make the game overall less fun to play on survivor.
@daskanguru35156 ай бұрын
From what I've gathered by playing at least ten games of Billy today was that the cooldown changes and add-ons are indeed the most impactful, in a way that doesn't feel particularly engaging on either side. Getting a chainsaw hit doesn't feel particularly earned when you're not punished at least a bit for missing in the first place. That being said, if they tweak his cooldowns a bit, I'd say he'd be pretty much perfect, this version of Billy is the most fun I've had in years with this game. I actually think the changes to the collision zone of the chainsaw are at the top of the things they did right, it feels buttery smooth to slide off certain tiles and objects now.
@cookiecreep92046 ай бұрын
I'm just glad that billy finally won't be an instant reroll on dailies cause i can't be bothered to learn him to just barely once per game hit a chainsaw
@xIronwafflexx6 ай бұрын
It's almost like I said all of this back when they announced the Billy changes.
@suneelkumar5556 ай бұрын
I played against him today, i agree his miss cooldown recovery time is very fast
@-snek.6 ай бұрын
God, I hope all they do is nerf his sprint cancel recovery time. Somehow I just KNOW they're going to walk back several of the buffs that made him finally feel good to play instead of just the one thing that makes his power oppressive.
@AvenFallen6 ай бұрын
I played Billy A LOT before the Nerfs (or to be more precise, his FoV-Changes when they changed his animations were more impactful for not playing that much Billy anymore). And Cooldown-Add Ons were always a big Bullshit. And IMO it is wrong that they brought them back and I hope they will nerf them again. Billy should neither have Chargetime- or Cooldown Add Ons. The rest of the changes are great though. I did not play Billy on Live Servers, but he felt so smooth on the PTB, it was really enjoyable.
@dodang_91476 ай бұрын
I only play billy with tuned carburettor+cooldown add-on.
@Phantom-kc9ly6 ай бұрын
Well this is certainly a wrong opinion
@tsunekofuwakage6 ай бұрын
it's just funny the stark contrast between billy and sadako on the same update.
@Katana3146 ай бұрын
Could they perhaps give Billy a significant "walking" cooldown after a saw - but still allow players to start a second saw without penalty? I get the sense for quality of life, letting people saw repeatedly is a big requirement. But it also makes sense to provide some kind of weighty punishment to let survivors take a short moment to react to each hit and reposition themselves. That's easier to handle if the Billy's next action is a slowly-charged saw, rather than a W+M1.
@AppleJackSix6 ай бұрын
You and everyone else complained about Xenonorph for this exact same reason (power cooldown is low and you move fast during it) until they nerfed her to where she isn’t fun to play as. Now you’re asking for Billy to not change and saying it’s just “interesting” that he plays this way. What a wild double standard. Either demand he be nerfed like Xeno or that Xeno be go back to even better than she was.
@BenAnderson486 ай бұрын
I’ve played one match against Billy since the changes went live. He was a Chad who got 8 hooks and then let us escape, but he could have won at 4 gens left. This was the first thing I noticed was that his cooldown was almost nonexistent. He’s ready to bring the chainsaw back up almost immediately after missing and that feels bad as survivor when you actually juke the chainsaw only to immediately be back under pressure from it. Part of skill expression is having some reward for using it. If I avoid a chainsaw sprint, I should have some reward for it- likewise, if he misses, he should have some penalty. Right now in the open, Billy has no penalty for missing the chainsaw. Other than that he’s a lot of fun to play against.
@kitanat99446 ай бұрын
Honestly I get the hesitation to talk about nerfs already, but I genuinely think that with all the buffs, this particular part is something that didn’t need to come back and I’d imagine it gets changed at some point as well. Let’s remember that there are only 2 killers with a direct, essentially on-demand insta-down. Leatherface can eat through pallets, but distance is meaningful. Billy can already catch up to you much faster than before and can also eat through pallets. This makes him a zone god when he legitimately doesn’t even need it. Just how I feel though.
@Notwedsquid6 ай бұрын
Why shouldn’t have it come back the reason people never played billy was cause you were punished for missing your saw and mostly all of his cooldowns were stupid long your average billy i can guarantee will not hit a saw in the open even up close cause one turn slight turn from a survivor you miss you force an m1 even better for the survivor.
@kitanat99446 ай бұрын
@@Notwedsquid I completely disagree, the reasons people stopped playing Billy was the overheat mechanic, general add-on nerfs, and Blight or Wesker just being a replacement for skilled players. Zoning into backrevving is super boring.
@Notwedsquid6 ай бұрын
@@kitanat9944 ok your completely wrong about the first part of billy cause literally i can almost guarantee no one played him cause he was to punishing and he just to difficult to learn and overheat rarely ever happened you would know if you played him and if it did happen it was always best to overheat instead of letting the entire bar go down it self
@ImmaculateOtter6 ай бұрын
“He’s been suffering for seven months…” My guy, he’s been suffering for 3 years, 5 months, and 23 days.
@Phantom-kc9ly6 ай бұрын
And I'm gonna give it a good year before I reinstall DBD to see what the nerfs will be like.
@Mister_Doodles6 ай бұрын
I think they should make the chainsaw cooldown add ons either not stack, or maybe just lower them on missed and keep the cooldown on hit
@playergc72526 ай бұрын
It has a lot to do with balance perception, like when people said that insta huntress was OP and some time after we got deathslinger that was basically it: very strong but not to the point to be overpowered. Spirit "being weak" on the ptb even though she is stronger than the version we have now. Demogorgon having one of the best mobility in the game to having a mediocre one.
@rileyp15066 ай бұрын
its so much harder and something to get used to, but you dont get punished for using your power! the timings are so fast its insane
@misteral90456 ай бұрын
The harder execution is the punishment. Before they gatekept hillbilly with the overheat, now they're still using the mechanic but the gate is player skill. Which is better, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but at the same time Hillbilly has always been compared to Bubba as the chainsaw killer who has to work a lot harder to use the chainsaw, and for good reason.
@rileyp15066 ай бұрын
@misteral9045 yeah my first 3 games this morning it took a while just to get used to the base charge speeds and then overdrive on top of it. Billy is the most rewarding killer to play imo
@misteral90456 ай бұрын
@@rileyp1506 Haha yeah on the killer side I agree Hillbilly is finally balanced in terms of how much effort for how much reward, but now unfortunately the survivors are paying for it.
@rileyp15066 ай бұрын
@misteral9045 and honestly I didn't mind it, having 2 seconds to react fucking sucks so I'm sticking to sprint burst for the next month. going down to a curve billy going mach 10 doesn't even feel that bad
@misteral90456 ай бұрын
@@rileyp1506 Yeah but it felt better going down to a curve Billy going mach 4 because it was still skillful on their part but you could also react, which is even more skill on their part and some of your skill.
@ElRinconDeLaPapa6 ай бұрын
What you missed Scott is the fact that the BHVR employees who were there when BIlly got nerfed already left, and the employees at BHVR right now never saw that change when it took place.
@MrSleepyhead326 ай бұрын
I always thought cooldown add-ons were more impactful than charge speed on pre-nerf Billy. I've been maining him since 2019. One of Billy's main strengths is closing distance on a survivor and also preventing edge map W gaming because of the instadown. However without cooldown or particular map design suited for Billy, he could lose distance on a survivor. The cooldown reduction and movement speed, base engraving, and the faster than double engraving without a charge speed penalty built in with overdrive makes him better than old Billy for sure. Then all the add on variety he can use buffs him more. Iridescent Engraving, Lopro, Turning, Stealth, Cooldown. The Iridescent Charge Speed ain't even bad with that move speed penalty with all his other numbers buffed.
@remseler13136 ай бұрын
They took away movement while bump. I think they need to bring it back but not with the same speed that was on ptb, but less, like 0,8-1 m/s for example
@Ouroboros6196 ай бұрын
Another thing to note is that Hillbilly has now become the only Killer who, barring some special circumstances on the survivors' end, can always threaten an insta down at a hooked survivor with just his basekit. With the removal of his Overheat mechanic, there's no downside to just keeping your chainsaw revved at an occupied hook. Myers will eventually run out of his power (and he needs add ons to circumvent this) Bubba will go into a Tantrum if he keeps revving without attacking, at which point there's a cooldown/wind up for survivors to attempt an unhook Any other killer require add ons or certain conditions to be met Hillbilly doesn't need any perks or add ons to do this. The survivors just have to hope he misses, is occupied with something else, or have Mettle of Man charged, otherwise there's nothing they can do to prevent a down. Of course, this can only happen in Endgame.
@russrtspooling77026 ай бұрын
It’s official Scott definitely rides the behavior deek
@Obama_Hunter6 ай бұрын
If I get on a bad map with too many deadzones I probably am gonna end up KMS on hook, I don't think it'll always be a problem but if you get bad map generation that just gets free instadowns it's simply not worth playing the match
@lIjamesIl6 ай бұрын
if it does prove to be too strong id say just rework greased throttle and may bring back Thompson's Moonshine just with a new effect since spiked boots was Thompson's Moonshine i just dont know what the new effect could be
@spoonounga4985 ай бұрын
The movement speed boost after a miss is a revert from a shadow nerf from last year IIRC. Thompson's + CD Buff feels strong tho i agree.
@tavinprice23106 ай бұрын
Shhhhhh this is still better than what we had before so lets just keep this
@Vasiliy9hells6 ай бұрын
Isn't that unbalanced? How do you counter a killer with both an on-demand insta down and unlimited map mobility?
@Vasiliy9hells6 ай бұрын
I know this is sarcasm, but this basically summarizes what a majority of killer players are saying during this update:) @@Efnol
@ryannem12166 ай бұрын
On specific maps, he is horrible on many maps still.
@shadowofsecracy6 ай бұрын
Not with the Billy mafia around.
@Phantom-kc9ly6 ай бұрын
It's not unbalanced. End of story.
@Vasiliy9hells6 ай бұрын
"Earth is flat. End of story" by the creators of "God exists. Trust me bro"@@Phantom-kc9ly
@OMGWTFROFLCOPTERBBQ6 ай бұрын
Seven months? Try almost four years when he got Overheat added.
@russellfitzgerald29576 ай бұрын
Seems like LT walls are gonna be really strong against billy still, or almost anything safe with a vault tbh
@mase5986 ай бұрын
I won't lie I haven't played PTB (Or DbD since like Alien released) But with that said, I don't want Hillbilly OP if that's where he's leaning, I would love to see he's strong but not like top 5 type strong. It's not even just because "yuck OP killer" it's largely that Hillbilly is one of, if not the most fun killer to play against. A good Hillbilly can already stomp but it can still be fun, I'm worried if he's just OP it won't be fun. It was like the one thing that was "good" about Hillbilly being awful, is that he's rare to see and so it was consistently a really fun game.
@BunnychanFarabee6 ай бұрын
Honestly I think the smaller hitbox offsets this buff quite a bit. It's way harder now to get long-range hits, as survivors can now more easily juke the saw.
@voltagespark73416 ай бұрын
These new changes are going to be blessed for those dealing with lag playing with friends from across the world
@renarenacat6 ай бұрын
one thing to consider is that alot of maps have more tiles close to each others these days.
@bigbrainonimain92266 ай бұрын
I think something to remember is that maps are much different. Old maps were more open with less but stronger loops. There's more pallets these days which means it's a lot harder to zone people.
@misteral90456 ай бұрын
Old maps also had lots of pallets too, which is one of the original reasons people liked playing old hillbilly.
@bigbrainonimain92266 ай бұрын
@@misteral9045 that's really old maps. I'm basically talking about around when Billy got nerfed. Maps like autohaven had many pallets removed and if you look at clips from around that time you'll see there actually wasn't a whole lot of pallets and the maps were super clean with very little clutter
@misteral90456 ай бұрын
@@bigbrainonimain9226 Yeah there have been pallet spawn changes, but in the grand perspective of Hillbilly, not to mention the whole game itself, it's actually about the same as it was.
@NinjapowerMS6 ай бұрын
Eh its easier. A decent chunk of pallets is unsafe so unless you're constantly trying to flex with your Saw its should be easy to down with M1. Also I just don't think Survivors are well equipped now to deal with this kind of strong killer pressure. This kind of billy is used against the four meta perks of the apocalypse where items were similarly busted and healing wasn't neutered as well.
@bigbrainonimain92266 ай бұрын
@@misteral9045 I still don't agree. Newer maps such as toba or nostromo have many pallets and never have dead zones. And to go back to autohaven which by the way is hillbilly's most favourable realm imo. You can see that bhvr have added a bunch of decent pallets around the edges of the maps as well as many more window oriented tiles where back in the day the edges would be massive dead zones and most tiles were only pallets or a jungle gym with one window.
@SadToffee6 ай бұрын
the more I think about it, they probably only buffed billy because the AOT license sold well and he fits a chainsaw man skin very well,
@thehulkyman6 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing this out scott. Following this realization we will be nerfing twins
@paraboxboland29136 ай бұрын
i cant believe he wants Billy nerfed already... I hope he doesnt call me out in the first 3 seconds.
@Notwedsquid6 ай бұрын
Your done buddy you’re about to get called out
@alphyy31076 ай бұрын
rip paraboxland2913
@Phantom-kc9ly6 ай бұрын
That's what the video is unironically about though
@bjorksnase6 ай бұрын
Old cooldown was 2.1s with thompson mix + tuning guide but it also had a 30% faster charge speed which was nuts, and even then with double cooldown you could get 36% faster cooldown (1.92s) and have faster charge (12% faster) so while technically you can get it faster in one reguard its not an everything and the kitchen sink like it used to be
@lordaizensama88526 ай бұрын
Yep. And it was the charge time that made him complained about not the cooldown
@lordaizensama88526 ай бұрын
Yep. And it was the charge time that made him complained about not the cooldown
@lordaizensama88526 ай бұрын
Yep. And it was the charge time that made him complained about not the cooldown
@lordaizensama88526 ай бұрын
Yep. And it was the charge time that made him complained about not the cooldown
@lordaizensama88526 ай бұрын
Yep. And it was the charge time that made him complained about not the cooldown
@johnc83836 ай бұрын
Im 3 seconds into the video and and so far scott has said "hey guys Scott here and today I wanna talk about the new hillbilly" Cant believe you want billy nerfed
@goofywannabegamers50056 ай бұрын
I thought part of the overheat nerf was to stop billy from infinitely revving up his saw for camping, can't he do that now that overheat isn't a thing?
@Zain.44206 ай бұрын
The solution is honestly very simple with cooldown add ons. Simply put, their synergy with other addons (specifically lopro chains and double cooldown) are way too strong. All they have to do is remove the ability to stack thompson's mix and greased throttle. And then Change how lopro pallet breaks work with tmix/greased throttle. personally I would increase Billy's cooldown time when he breaks a pallet with lopro chains so he can't zone as effortlessly. I think nerfing the percentages of cooldown addons themselves isn't a good idea because they're honestly pretty balanced, but the potential synergy they have is too much.
@isabutreal6 ай бұрын
great video Scott
@Krispe6 ай бұрын
Great Scott video
@jackmyers71416 ай бұрын
Video Scott great
@mrshm3l0906 ай бұрын
great video Scott
@exetone6 ай бұрын
Gonna be honest i dont think i like billy all that much anymore. Very obnoxious to go against
@TheNateCast6 ай бұрын
I don't think they should care because double cooldown blight can do the same thing with less punishment for messing up. It's not even good on Blight either because his power is so good already, that you should use it for more than catching up. All Billys are based.
@sebysebyt126 ай бұрын
They didn't fix chainsaw hit feels soo wierd vs old billy where his chainsaw made collision whit survivor
@aidanspradley95336 ай бұрын
This was my ONLY concern with the Hillbilly PTB. Thompsons mix is just so annoyingly good for catching up and snowballing. Mix+Lopro, Mix+Engravings, Mix+Lubricator, theyre all soooo good.
@xvoidxhunter21296 ай бұрын
Everybody talking about Hillbilly but nobody talking about Blight getting the actual most broken add on in the game with Iridescent Tag
@Mercer5266 ай бұрын
And at the same time, nerfed sadako and made one of her iri addons a meme. The devs are wild
@xvoidxhunter21296 ай бұрын
@@Mercer526 Sadako deserved it, her previous kit was so BM, it just incentivised slugging and it was the most casual free mori's in the game without any add ons required. She deserved to be reworked cause Condemnation was a problem. The devs are still incredibly wild for making Blight stronger.
@verygayowl41996 ай бұрын
@@xvoidxhunter2129 The rework was definitely a good change, but the post-ptb nerfs were not. In trying to make her tunneling potential weaker, they instead incentivized it even more by making her condemn lock-in a non-threat. It was the one thing that made condemn useful for game slowdown, but now if you're not trying to condemn them as soon as they're unhooked, you've wasted more time raising their condemn then they'll waste cleansing it. The condemn cooldown on the other hand was an okay idea, but it needs to come with a compensation buff to help with spreading pressure in the first place. Doing something like making the new Ring Drawing basekit would be perfect for that, since it'll further reward interacting with survivors through hooking instead of just through teleports.
@Mercer5266 ай бұрын
@@xvoidxhunter2129 I'm not saying the rework was unjustified, but the nerfs from ptb to life were uncalled for.
@xvoidxhunter21296 ай бұрын
@@Mercer526 Honestly idrgaf about Sadako. Youll deadass never see her in a Survivor match anymore since itll just be Chucky, Blight, Alien and Hillbilly. Nobody plays anyone else and they have no reason to unless its to proxy camp as Bubba and Knight or to sweat even harder as Nurse. The other 28 killers in the game might as well not even exist at this point cause everyones just playing Meta and BMing. Im not joking when i say they need to have a restricted killer function cause nothing makes me wanna uninstall the game faster than running into the same 3 killers every match every week. I want to play against someone different and if the only way people are gonna play someone else is to Restrict Blight for a week im completely fine with that
@cringe14626 ай бұрын
Im a billy main, and i really dislike that they made overcharge a thing. Buffing basekit numbers and making actually useful addons would be way more than enough to satisfy 99% of billy mains, and overcharge just lays the ground for some overpowered combination that would lead to a nerf :(
@anitoancognita70606 ай бұрын
Hillbilly: 😋🥰😎💪 Sadako: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@EmoGirlfriendHaver6 ай бұрын
so basically, the best of the best players, will be even more uncounterable with their quick curves and cut off iq, whilst at the same time, the worst of the worst, will now be able to employ even better versions, of previously nerfed out content to attain ez as fuck downs, yknow what, based I missed old billy
@jacobcoates79876 ай бұрын
Pour one out for the flick billy mains who quit the game before this buff. 😢
@majrgaming26336 ай бұрын
I’m surprised nobody has said anything about how on the hook upstairs in Ormond, if the killer doesn’t break any breakable walls there’s only one doorway available to get to the hook
@bigbrainonimain92266 ай бұрын
Anticamp mechanic stops that from being an issue
@majrgaming26336 ай бұрын
@@bigbrainonimain9226 Not really cuz trap killers exist, if a Trapper places traps in that area and stands there i mean what do u do even if u unhook urself, they just need to remove one breakable wall it’s not a huge deal
@majrgaming26336 ай бұрын
@@Efnol Dawg it’s not that deep, just cuz I bring up a survivor issue doesn’t mean I fall under this weird mindset of thinking devs ignore survivor issues entirely
@bigbrainonimain92266 ай бұрын
@@majrgaming2633 true. But to be fair I'm sure there's many place in the game where trapper can block one or two exits and make unhooks difficult. Eg: haddonfield, Thompson's house, badham and basically any basement
@justusgrimm21276 ай бұрын
Can you go on a tangent? @@Efnol
@DanielRodriguez-zj5il6 ай бұрын
I am a killer main but even I think that cooldown is too fast. If I dodge an instadown move, you bet I want to be rewarded for it.
@TristanLaurens6 ай бұрын
It's seriously annoying that for every good change, they add an ugly fucking annoying problem. New Hillbilly is really cool, but this speed+cooldown will just make Billy feel uncounterable and it's gonna make him despised. Chucky is fun, oh hey, scamper is too fast! Xeno is fun, oh hey, let's buff the recovery on whiff (they changed it, thank god), like... It's getting old.
@impulsivexr21845 ай бұрын
Billy for sure is gonna be a noob stomper
@blake8366 ай бұрын
Vile Scott strikes again trying to put Billy in dump, can't believe it
@xandernander78126 ай бұрын
RIP Pighouse gloves + big buckle add-on combo. You will not be missed
@swiftynova90286 ай бұрын
I wish people realized this is why a lot of games are so infuriating like in certain games like ow junkrat might be “balanced” but he is still super unhealthy and unfun
@jesusnajera35276 ай бұрын
Billy’s biggest weakness is looping windows, while new Billy is still crazy strong in many ways he can still be abused, will have to see how looping him evolves
@ALetterP6 ай бұрын
which is exactly why he needed cooldown add ons. yet the crying ensues.
@Kantrul6 ай бұрын
@@ALetterP No. It's the same problem the cannibal has, windows counter chainsaws. If you want to solve that problem or not play around it, just equip bamboozle
@3mangaming1856 ай бұрын
I am not gonna say if new billy is balanced or whatever but just gonna throw my opinion out, pLaying against Billy now is such a boring and frustrating experince, it is not that I find it impossible to win against him but god dam rn I prefer going against almost every killer in game instead of billy maybe not nurse but still that is saying somehing.
@thatfishguy49916 ай бұрын
Yay new zoning killer
@thatfishguy49916 ай бұрын
@larsliamvilhelm Idk about that. Before his longer cooldown when he misses made it a lot easier to actually get yourself into an area where you might be safe. The only good thing is that theres hardly any dead zones on any maps besides like haddonfield since the reworks.
@GBHD74146 ай бұрын
The adding things back add old dh tf
@pom28536 ай бұрын
I've been playing double engraving billy as pretty much the only killer i play for the past year and it feels like that playstyle just doesn't exist anymore which makes me really sad I tried to give feedback that giving thompson mix and greased throttle miss cooldown would be a bad change but it still happened, I hate it cause it's such a more boring playstyle for both sides imo
@RandomPerson-yq1qk6 ай бұрын
I don't see why that playstyle doesn't exist anymore? With current engravings you have pretty comparable speed to old doubles without overdrive. In overdrive with or without engravings you are faster. The exact speed varying mid-match will definitely need some getting used to, but it shouldn't make it unplayable.
@slavajuri6 ай бұрын
Yeah I'd be curious to know why you think it doesn't exist, too.
@pom28536 ай бұрын
saying it doesn't exist is definitely an over exaggeration from me, but keeping track of your rev and overdrive at the same time is a lot, on top of engraving + overdrive speed messing with timing and making smaller loops basically impossible to curve because you turn a lot wider
@IVova62606 ай бұрын
I'm praying for bhvr to not nerf Billy's movement speed.
@raredivine6 ай бұрын
Surely not right..? If they made him 110 that would suck
@IVova62606 ай бұрын
@@raredivine I'm talking about his chainsaw sprint😑
@garrettlauderbaugh3126 ай бұрын
If the release of xeno has taught us anything, it’s that short cooldowns are extremely strong. I’ll be surprised if this doesn’t get nerfed at some point
@ryannem12166 ай бұрын
And nobody plays xeno as a result
@garrettlauderbaugh3126 ай бұрын
Yeah, like when billy got nerfed nobody played him @@ryannem1216
@garrettlauderbaugh3126 ай бұрын
Billy can on shot which xeno can't do. Also flame turrets exist@larsliamvilhelm
@garrettlauderbaugh3126 ай бұрын
That's not true at all@larsliamvilhelm
@danielmikula13756 ай бұрын
Nerf Pig, message received.
@alejandroruiz84346 ай бұрын
Well its not the first time that devs shows that they dont even play the game. Pretty sure they're gonna nerf it back to the ground in a couple of weeks.
@kok68856 ай бұрын
imagine doing math for the devs
@johnnysixstring6 ай бұрын
wow i cant believe Scott wants Billy to get hard nerfed vilescott strikes again
@MythicTF26 ай бұрын
While these changes are certainly the strongest, I think there's also a huge difference between modern DBD & 2016 DBD, survivor skill level and meta. DBD was a much different game back then and survivors were much much worse at the game overall than survivors these days are. I think that makes a huge difference as well.
@buckmills41596 ай бұрын
The cd needs to be bumped up or the recovery speed needs to be lengthened with less mobility. Because of fairness…you know…instead of “this was bad for years so now it deserves to be overturned because of reparations style stuffs lol”.
@buckmills41596 ай бұрын
That said I don’t want to see crazy nerds. It’s nice to see Billy getting played.
@SweetLeavesXbox16 ай бұрын
Billy feels OP at average MMR. Hes basically a sprinting instant down with no draw backs. His only counter is to force billy to curve on safe loops. Perks like Lethal Pursuer is somewhat OP on billy. Forcing downs faster then the Huntress. About 20 seconds 😂 His silent build also dont help survivor counter his chainsaw sprint. I would be disappointed if Billy was nerfed again, but i would understand why 😂
@Smazzish6 ай бұрын
let him cook
@ryanlutes98336 ай бұрын
I think it's important to note that insta saw isn't quite as lethal as it used to be due to the numerous ways there are to get endurance in modern DBD.
@ScottJund6 ай бұрын
almost all of those methods require you to be injured though
@alphyy31076 ай бұрын
And also you say that as if survivors will have endurance like every other second therefore it's totally fine if something is a little unfair or feels bad.
@xxprototypexx50566 ай бұрын
But if you get sawed the first time, you are then injured for the rest of the match@@ScottJund
@ryanlutes98336 ай бұрын
@alphyy3107 I wasn't aware I said it "as if" anything. just that you can't really compare old billy numbers to new billy 1:1 because the game is much different.
@Technature75676 ай бұрын
As someone who immediately pauses every video before it can play at all, I find it disturbing that Scott just stared at me for such an uncomfortably long amount of time. STOP STARING INTO MY SOUL SCOTT!
@VincentVanHalen556 ай бұрын
Well, I've watched the whole 29 seconds and I think it's time to give my opinion on Scott's video
@Kringerel6 ай бұрын
here comes the bleeder
@freddiemedley55805 ай бұрын
Seven months? You mean three years right
@jilujoilujiut21656 ай бұрын
Yeah . Hill billy over buffed . Grim embrace plus dead mans switch . This patch is freaking miserable for survivors . Love it when a character can spam there insta down miss it repeatedly and have basically no punishment for those misses
@Idontknowwhat2type6 ай бұрын
Un nerf dead hard to where you can get it without needing to hook. Leave the other nerfs but that’s the only way I think I’ll survive a billy match now lol
@FrankieFrak-Frakityfranker6 ай бұрын
Make dead hard token based on your own hook states and unhooked survivors
@Idontknowwhat2type6 ай бұрын
@@FrankieFrak-Frakityfranker I could get behind that actually. That’s a good idea
@user-mg6bk2yy1g6 ай бұрын
Wow Scott wants Billy nerfed!! Only watched 2 seconds though but hey you're crazy
@s66s466 ай бұрын
Quiet, now they will nerf him heavily again
@itzKidDope556 ай бұрын
Aren’t these different devs? They see killers like Nemesis, Chucky, Xenomorph, Pyramid Head, etc. who basically can get easy hits so they figure to do the same. I love Hillbilly. Maybe just nerf the new cooldown add ons and that’s it
@WarProfiteer.5 ай бұрын
And 3 weeks later it's removed lmao
@MrVIrginiaLUV6 ай бұрын
They're gonna nerf him again once the optimisation starts. 😂😂😂
@akbossk53176 ай бұрын
With how unfun so much stuff is I really don’t care how strong billy is because it’s still billy
@kok68856 ай бұрын
scott you know they're going to sell/die
@thehulkyman6 ай бұрын
The bottom right of the screen looks like a ai generated mess... maybe a guitar
@andrewmcnally50136 ай бұрын
Ah, great. One of my worst nightmares has been realised! I have versed SO MANY Insta-Saw Billies when it was prevalent that I nearly quit the game, since it eas 95% of my matches. It was so bad that I freely admit that I hate Hillbilly. I hate going against him, and I hate that his power is literally everything in one button. I hate that his chainsaw is such an easy crutch for people instead of actually chasing. This isn't a practice or skill issue thing, it's the same thing we all complain about with Nurse or Tombstone Myers. Just take a good portion of the game, and throw it out.
@dakota98216 ай бұрын
It's a skill issue brother.
@andrewmcnally50136 ай бұрын
@@dakota9821 it's a skill issue if you count a no-life Nurse blinking on top of you all the time as a skill issue. Sometimes there is just no winning.
@nathangothan6016 ай бұрын
Knight, SM, Singularity, and Xeno were such dog 💩 that people are excited to be ass blasted by Billy again. He’s gonna get a nerf, because it’s too strong.
@isoliro6 ай бұрын
I think the same thing happens with blight and nurse, no punishment for missing their power
@ScottJund6 ай бұрын
i mean even blight and nurse have a recovery period before they can use their power again.
@ssjkakarotttv26766 ай бұрын
Imma say this. I think this Version of Billy is in his best state he will ever be, and I am all for it. Billy has been a pretty mediocre killer for so long he deserves sometime to shine.
@shro0mpy7916 ай бұрын
Something else to note, Overheat also served to stop facecamping. With that being gone he is now one of the best face campers and possibly the best during endgame. Luckily though feathering like that doesnt build towards Overdrive, it actually decreases it.