The Mortal Kombat way of punishing would solve all of these problems, they plug, they lose points, get an L and the opponent automatically wins.

if they plug in tekken 8 do this: main menu > community > players you’ve played with > report and then block them. eventually you will block most of the pluggers in your region and have a much better online experience. (i have like 30+ pluggers blocked and i rarely fight pluggers now)

I laughed at that one Fergus video where a Lars player uses the rage art in order to buy time to plug, Not only are pluggers more frequent now but they're more creative than ever when it comes to cheating, it's almost hilarious.

It's wild how often people refuse the rematch. The only times I ever refuse a rematch is if the connection was bad or if I have something urgent to get to, then I go online and every 3rd player just wants to 1 and done you.

The funny part about this is that there are people watching this video and actually plug on a daily basis 🤣

The funniest thing about it is that everyone has a 0.0% connection rate. I have yet to run in to anyone with a percentage higher than that, which is weird considering how often people rage quit. In a 3 hour session about 1-2 rage quits is expected.

There are hackers in Tekken 8 we should be more worried about them than people who quit their games , auto blockers , insta kill at beginning of the round, healing health over time etc. they need to ban them.

I have a 60% win rate with Reina, and I'm at destroyer rank, and it started getting a little bit difficult, and for some reason, I enjoy it even more now. I don't understand why people play a fighting game where you clearly need to play a lot and lose a lot to become good but get frustrated when it actually happens, like that's your oppurtunity to learn

You can block and punish Rage Art and Drives. Can't say the same about Rage Quits.

This video was sorely needed. The devs need to take this shit seriously.

Also noticed how most players do not rematch a close battle. Between orange and red where I am, I don’t find that many pluggers but dear lord they only wanna rematch when they stomped you.

I really miss the opportunity to death match, sure, people one and done'd in Tekken 7 also, but every 6th or 7th opponent you found someone who was willing to go the lenghth with you. It was the best feeling of playing Tekken and it not being available seriously hurts my enjoyment even if it is a great game overall.

LowTierGod. I'm lookin at you son 😂😂😂

Idk how a competitive game like tekken doesn't have a solution for this. I mean even MK has a disconnect penalty.

Game is more inclusive, means more players, more players means more noobs, more noobs means higher saturation of noob strats

I'm playing at LATAM, and curiously enough, here people do not plug or dodge as constantly. I remember getting plugged like twice in my 40 hour journey in ranked, and almost every opponent rematch, winning or losing. I hope this becomes less of a problem in other regions with time, and hope the devs take notice of it, we been crying for some sort of punishment for pluggers since 7 and still got nothin

not only rage quitters, but lag switchers too. ran into a Jin cheese lord and every time i launched him the game suddenly ran in 17fps

The plugging issue has infested orange and red and it makes it nearly impossible to rank up due to the not getting points for the opponent plugging it’s awesome

People play to win and not to compete, its the folly of all competive games. As you said, you just need to be hyped about learning new shit on how to deal with the match up.

TMM, I play Star Citizen and the devs addressed this exact issue. What they did is, when in ship combat, people would plug so not to lose their ship or rob you of a victory. The devs patched it so that when you plug, your ship would REAMIN in world for 30 seconds (or more I believe) allowing the other player to finish you off and get the credit. You would also get a warning if you try to plug or quit game during combat. I'm sure the T8 dev team can do something similar to this. Or make it where plugging grants you an instant loss and the opponent an isn't win.

Ive been getting knowldege checked at lower ranks and its no fun, however, learning the matchup and being able to develop counterplay overtime feels amazing. If you get demolished in ranked, see it as an opportunity to learn something new about your opponent's character and dont put so much importance in a virtual point system.

Apart from handing out losses to pluggers and a win to their opponents, which is the obvious thing to do, they should implement a pluggers queue where they match up against each other until they win 10 games or smth

Ive not had anyone plug against me until today. First plugger was a Dragunov, the second was a Victor. In other news, water is wet.

I am not really mad when somebody doesn’t wanna rematch me, I can live with that. But the plugging is absolutely disgusting, how is it possible that a competitive game like Tekken doesn’t have any penalty against pluggers? It’s a huge oversight tbh! I hope this will get resolved soon. I also hope that they do something about the FPS requirements in ranked, it’s simply not enjoyable if you play against someone who can’t achieve a steady 60fps during the match. Thanks for bringing awareness to this matter Mainman! But don’t get caught up in the negativity, the game is still fun and I am sure there will be changes!

Hits even more on promotion match 😭

I’m new to tekken only played 11 hours of seven and most of that was offline in practice mode. I have about 100 hours of 8 and got Yoshi to shinryu. I love learning the game and when I have close matches that’s the best feeling ever. Not getting bodied or bodying the other person, but a true back and forth battle of mind games. It’s so much damn fun these people are missing the point here

i cross my fingers and close my eyes when i land a rage art out of fear of them plugging

True dude, absolutely right. Two days ago i played your Yoshi with my kazuya and even its very demanding playing against yoshi i rematched because i need to learn better the matchup. Its a shame the majority of players dont do this anymore

Thank you for making this video TMM, yesterday i got like 7 rage quiters in row and luckily i got promoted to Kishin with Leo, Bandai Namco seriously need to do something about this its getting out of hand fr

When I get beat, I 100% rematch and try to learn.

This issue arises prominently in competitive gaming communities like those of Tekken or Street Fighter when they gain popularity beyond their traditional player base. While the success of these games is undoubtedly positive, ensuring their longevity and vitality, it also introduces a wave of newcomers unaccustomed to losing gracefully. Unlike some other fighting game series that shall remain unnamed, which may fade quickly, these games thrive and draw in fresh faces. However, many of these newcomers struggle to cope with defeat, viewing it as a personal failure rather than a natural part of the learning process. The inability to handle losses gracefully is a common trait among these newer players, often attributed to a lack of mental resilience. In the competitive world of fighting games, there's no scapegoat to blame when you're defeated; it's a direct confrontation with your own skills. While losing is undoubtedly frustrating, the lack of sportsmanship and refusal to acknowledge defeat with grace can be toxic to the community. It's my hope that those who exhibit this behavior either reconsider their approach to the game or depart from it entirely, recognizing that accepting defeat gracefully is a crucial step towards improvement and contributing positively to the community.

The rage quitting just started to get crazy. I’m stuck in tenryu right now. Purple ranks and higher are no joke lol I haven’t played tekken in years but I’m in the lab and working my way up

This is one of the bigger issues when competitive games like Tekken or SF get super popular with people outside of the usual community. Sure the game's success is great and it strengthens the game moving forward so it wont die in 1-2 years like some other fighting game series I won't mention however it also invites a bunch of people who are new to this scene and aren't used to losing, rather they cannot accept the very concept of it because it feels bad. A lot of the newer players just seem to be mentally weak and treat losing as some boogeyman which shouldn't be a surprise as with fighting games when you get your ass torn there's no one to blame but yourself with the usual advice being "just get good." Losing sucks ass it really does but the lack of dignity and disregard for taking your loss with honor is just straight poison for Tekken and I hope the people who do this constantly either drop the game entirely or learn accept a loss and become better for it.

Everyone does that man its worse in t8. I hope devs resolve this thing. Even a tekken god ranked pluged on me because he was about to lose 😂😂.

The sad part about plugging is that it gives me the impression that people come from job just to see a number goes up instead of having fun. Like... When i was i child, no matter if i lost a football match or won it, i had fun. And that was what moticated me to play, because eventually i was gonna head back home

I appreciate the logical approach you take, offering some supportive words to those who maybe have lost their way and aren’t having fun. With that said, I feel a lot of people are missing the competitive spirit part of their “soul” and only care about accolades. People who use cheats/wall hacks and people who pay for boosting or for high level accounts are in the same class of gamer and I feel they couldn’t give a shit less whether or not it was earned.

I cant believe we're at a point where there's more quitters than actual players willing to JUST PLAY the game. That's actually baffling to me, and it just further pushes the idea that we're at such a soft society that people can't handle a simple loss in a video game. This is just absurd. Also to add I can't understand how the devs miss again on these problems, since this has been a thing since T7.

Out of all the fighting games I've played, this definitely seems to be the game with the highest number of disconnects. And it's weird because out of all those games I've played, this one is like the only one that "has" a downside to quitting in that it is supposed to show you how often people disconnect. Too bad it doesn't seem to work since all disconnect rates I've seen are at 0%. Let's hope this can be fixed soon.

I stopped playing ranked 10 days ago 💀 the number of sales in my area low I have to sit for 20mins to find a single match and whenever I do, it's a rage quitter

The win streaks thing is such a good point. I was super late to start playing ranked because when the game dropped I was busy being a lab monster and playing local Vs with my bro. So when I finally did get on ranked for the first time I won my first 27 games straight, but my max win-streak stills shows 13 because of freaking pluggers

The only way I've learned tekken is by losing I always rematch unless I can't keep my eyes open cause I'm sleepy

Happening a lot even in quick matches. Some people have fragile ego.

I'm a garyu Claudio main, I'm bad at this game. this is my first Tekken ever and I get frustrated really easily. but I would never ever in my life quit mid game or a best of 3, I feel like I can't, it's not in my DNA. there is a saying in my country that goes like "beat the rusted nail (with a hammer) until it's not rusty anymore" what helps is that I know I'm bad + I know that my opponent is bad. the question is who is worst xd, that helps. and if my opponent is good, I don't get frustrated at all, he deserves the win and I will rematch even if he stomps me ( ITS A LEARNING GAME )

I'm not good at Tekken by a long shot. It took me years to build the confidence to even play online. But rematching was always gold in my eyes. I mained Steve in T7 and fought a Lee that was wiping the floor with me. Slowly I was learning, low parry here, side step this or that. It's a great feeling when you learn those match ups and skills to better your game play.

True I played for 2 hrs and experienced 7 rage quits and hate messages. Feels like a Call of Duty lobby, I LOVE IT THOUGH

I think this is generally an issue with people wanting instant gratification from winning, and fighting games aren't the genre for that. There's a learning curve, especially in a series like Tekken, so these players just play to win and not really get any better. I really hope they do something to mitigate this, like a temporary ban on repeated offenses at most or at least letting the player getting plugged to keep their win streak and the points they would have gotten from the quitter.

I’ve had plenty of sets where I lose the first match in dominate fashion, but I keep chugging along to the next match. I made the right adjustments and ended up winning the sets. That feels more rewarding than anything. If I lose 0-2, I go to replay mode and try to learn and improve. That’s what makes T8 great. Proud to say I’ve never rage quit. Any time a game ended early on my part was due to technical difficulties like crashing or server issues.

Bad connection is definitely a reason for me to not rematch. Or me deciding I've had enough for the day. But as a strategy, in the middle of my session, never... and not even remotely thinking of pluging on a fellow player.

I was playing my Main Dragunov and fighting against Jun We both won two rounds each, Jun used Her rage art and reduced my health to red I ran at her and used a double forward Triangle rush and won the game But she ragequitted when the "GREAT" was on my screen Causing my entire game to crash and me having to re load the game and lose my points I was not happy

I get the sentiment, I always hit rematch (except when the connection turns out to be unplayably bad).

literally an Asuka plugged as i was mid combo to deny her promo, and i see this video uploaded. Feels good to know people are bringing this up.

I have to agree with you about the rematch thing. Whether I win or lose I tend to rematch as well.

What a coincidence! Just played 5 matches and in 3 of them opponent plugged. Even fujins plug, seems like a report system is not working like it should.

For me, it's usually just King. I'll lose the first game in a pretty embarrassing way but by last round of the first game I generally start to tech their throws and properly defend the Jaguar Sprint nonsense. As soon as you show signs of adjusting, they leave. I always stay for the whole set (unless it's super laggy or their lag starts up at very suspicious times). I really feel like I get worse when I stomp on newer players so while I do get a bit tilted, I always rematch the losses because that really is the ONLY way to learn in Tekken. These people are not old enough to play online video games, and some of them might be in their 20s/30s. As for plugging, turn off crossplay immediately. As soon as you start queueing into console red ranks, first of all, they are most likely on outlet network adapters/wiring to a wireless router/switch/repeater and pretending to be wired, and second of all, THEY ALL PLUG. Since switching to only steam, it's been a lot better at higher ranks. SFVI has the perfect system. They don't care if you plug or disconnect legitimately, the game gives you a yellow card symbol. When you have a yellow card, you can only queue into other yellow cards. If you wait a day or play 10 games with no issues, it's removed. If you get more disconnects/plugs while you have a yellow card, you get a red card which still lets you play but only vs other red cards. I think red cards are a hardlocked timer and can't be removed before a certain time has passed. (Multiple days but I'm not sure) This system is literally perfect because if you unfortunately disconnect legitimately, you have a path to get out quickly but if you want to be a child and plug, it forces you to play with the other like-minded retards. Honestly though, if you are legitimately disconnecting frequently, you shouldn't be playing online games.

I met a really "spammy" Hwo back in orange rank and he absolutely destroyed me, but that didn't stop me from playing ranked. I kept playing and got red rank, then I met the same guy again (he was ruler rank) and he destroyed me again, 3-0'd twice. This time however, I went to the replays and actually studied Hwo. Just two days ago, I was in Battle Ruler and I met him again, this time he was Fujin. I lost the set, but I won a match against him and it really made my day. There I thought that watching replays really paid off and I would be (and already been) doing it again.

it absolutely mind boggling that this issue wasn't solved in tekken 7 its unforgivable that this isnt solved in tekken 8 its not like there arent plenty of solutions out there

as a new player who played alot of competetive games(dota in particular), i dont think there has been any other game that i had the same amount of fun when i loose or win which i have with tekken8. this game is so much fun either way its shocking to me that people are plugging

I feel like it's the wave of new players this game has attracted. A lot of them were likely not expecting to have such a hard time, or they're not rematching because they're not familiar with / don't care about fighting game etiquette. I swear it must be those damn first person shooter players 😂

I think something like this could work: if the opponent is losing, as in you have won more rounds up to that point or they have less hp than you and they plug / dc, it counts as your win and their loss, no questions asked. If the opponent is winning and they dc then neither gains nor loses any points.

I'm actually taking a break from ranked play till this is solved, I hit red ranks and I refuse to dip in any more cause there are just way way waaaay too many quitters.

I got a Victor plug on me... IN TEKKEN BALL!!! AT THE 1ST ROUND!!!

Have to take some points from BAMCO here. They waited a while before introducing the microtransactions, which explains the lackluster cosmetic options we currently have. They waited so that the game will be reviewed without them. AND still no solution for pluggers.

I don't plug, but I do get in my own head a lot when I lose. I think that I'm not being a good enough competitor to my friends and I start getting harsh on myself and my skill. I appreciate the discussion, even though I wasn't the core target of it TMM.

The dishonorable ragequitters robbed me 5 wins this weeknd. Its so frustrating...

Plugging is a problem, but if they implement a penalty then they better know when it’s a plug and when it’s a disconnect because the servers act up.

I don't even know how they let this be an issue since it isn't one in any other game out there since the leaver loses and the winner wins and that's just how it should work and for some reason they can't figure it out with their huge budget and teams especially with how well the game sold so far there is no excuse besides being lazy.

That Azucena WR punish is what I needed, I've just been crouching at range sometimes and hoping the first hit whiffs 😂

Honestly this made me so proud to be the guy that always rematches and yea there are some blue ranks that knowledge check me to death but when I hit rematch it’s because I love *playing* tekken, and that means blocking and learning how to counter your opponent’s pressure. They even give you your last 100 rematches for free with tips. Huge opportunity for me to get good at tekken and I hope to get to tekken king one day, GL to all us chads mashing rematch, and thank you for the recognition MainMan

What do you guys think could be a solution? What if it kept track of your DC's, and if you only get DC's near the end of matches it penalizes you in terms of points. Or if it banned you from playing online for an hour to 24 hours if you DC multiple times in a day? Anything? I guess those could possibly be exploited still. What if there was a separate game mode where you lock in to 3 sets? That could be for people who actually want to play. What if it actually tracked your DC and quit rate on which round and set, and showed it before entering a set, instead of always showing 0.00%. Anyone have any better ideas?

As a Tekken newbie, I found myself alt+f4 several times when I was too frustrated and didn't want to play anymore. I was sure that in this case I would get L, and my opponent W. Later I found out that my opponent did not get W and this reset the win streak. I don't do that anymore. Some things in Tekken are so weird. Why don't you get L when you exit the game? Why is there no button to leave match? Why do players have to agree to rematches in ranked matches (why not just do ft2)? Why can't you play more games than ft2 with your opponent in casual matches?

I got destroyed by someone then i rematched like a chad to make me feel that loosing is no big of a deal. Then he proceed to taunt me , ki charging me. It broke my soul. That’s the type thing that make people not ever rematching when they get stomp

Reminds me of Season 1 Tekken 7, that's when a lot of newcomers were playing and I couldn't remember anyone plugging in season 4 up until the end.

Yeah ranked is fucked. There was a session where when I got dragunov to my first ever mighty ruler (been playing him since last year in t7 when I started learning the game in general) . No shit, it took 30 min to get more than 2 matches completed, filled with guys ducking me in ranked constantly denying the matches, and then on promo, I get plugged, then I beat a Jin player for less points so I don’t get a promo, then he doesn’t rematch and the moment I get another match, I get plugged, and then finally get my ruler promo.

I miss Tekken 7 infinite rematch; loved getting stomped on by really good player and going what felt like an infinite rematch streak just to learn. Would always feel a mutual respect when they'd keep accepting again and again, though I'd be getting beat, and same the other way, when someone loses by a long shot, giving rematches and slowly seeing them come up in skill in that one session. Pluggers I feel like there are such easy solutions to discourage this that I can't believe Tekken 8 isn't resolving them yet

The rank points gain/loss doesn't help either. Going on a winstreak just to get 1 loss that's -400 points is really discouraging.

Back on Tekken 7, I would have fun with Armor King's Booker T scissor kicks. I was a Divine Ruler, but landing that move on Tekken Gods and blue ranks always made my day.

if someone disconnects from the game for any reason it should be an automatic win for the other party, is there a reason they havent implemented a system like this?

2 things would MASSIVELY improved rank. 1-Mandatory best of 3. No choice. 2-if you plug you lose, if you dont rematch you get an L. Easy as that.

Man! I wasn't sure how bad it was for everyone else, but plugging has been a major issue for me. I'm usually dealing with a rage quitter every 2 out of 10 matches on average. Sometimes more than that. No joke!! It's crazy smh.. I've had 5 rage quits in a row when dealing with a promo 🤦🏽‍♂️ I feel it got worse once i hit red ranks and ruler ranks. Ruler ranks are extremely bad at this. I really hope they implement consequences and losses for ppl doing this 💯 I hope they mention something about this on the Tekken Talk coming up on the 20th of this month

This is called Tekken Church; I love the sermon that you preached on plugging. So when it comes to plugging you have to really evaluate yourself as a person and ask , 'if im this way for a game how am I in just my everyday life?' Probably not someone anyone cares to be around, especially when it comes to anything competitive. When you lose just stop yourself for a second and say, 'ok this is really not a loss, I'm learning, what mistakes did I make?' And then learn from it, don't make the mistakes again, and consider it a different TYPE of win.

Most new players “why no win?”

Thank You 🙏🏻 For speaking on this predicament. You are the voice of the voiceless.

The only time I dont rematch is when the connection is terrible or if the opponent has no idea how to play

If you think about it, pluggers are probably super frustrated cause them plugging makes it so that they're probably ranked way higher than their skill level, which means they're facing people that mop the floor with them far more often. I (as an orange rank) got matched against a flame ruler a few days ago. Got absolutely blown up. It was mesmerizing.

you're right main man, because the battle was roughly interrupted by the plugger, the game doesn't record the replays or even register you played agains the plugger so you can't report/block. Im really tired of these scrubby rage quitters, also upset with bamco to not take action of this toxic behavior properlly. The only thing i can do is to record all the rage quits and public post it. Good video BTW sir! salutes from VENEZUELA

В Теккен 7 как были эти безнаказанные выходы из рангового матча, так в Теккен 8 и остались. Почему Харада не может ничего сделать с этим?

Necessary to talk about Tekken like this,thank you

I think some people plug because they do not like being damaged by a big combo or their opponent is on the verge of winning. This is getting really strange and I hope Harada and the Bandai Namco team can help alleviate this issue.

i honestly wish tekken was shifted in a way that didn't reward just assaulting the opponent, like ive seen some combos and it just gets ridiculous, like its super cool, but i do think its apart of the frustration is in how the game's built, you make one mistake and youre just waiting for half your health bar in the air, and next thing you know you get launched again the second youre allowed to play again so all you can do is have fun watching the pretty hit effects i guess so i definitely understand the anger, still doesn't excuse plugging but there's apart of me that sorta gets it, and wants to do the same sometimes

I havent met a plugger yet. But every 5 bar ethernet user on loading screen turns into a 1 bar powerpoint presentation. I literally have to spam against the new Reina players i hate it. If i shut my brain off. I win. If i dont. i get pressered. I win and it feels horrible.

I wonder if allowing more rematches than a best of 3 would help. Maybe people are getting frustrated that there's no way to learn the frustrating matchups because you're not allowed to rematch. When you do finally find someone that wants to play that you are having good matches with you only get 5 minutes. In Tekken 7 the, the long quick match sessions of 10 or 20 matches are the things I remember most. The best of 3 limit is kinda making me not want to play that much.

Haven't been able to get out of the Ruler ranks because of this.

I think this is more a problem with the game being new AND massively popular. In a few months (maybe a year idk) when only the players who actually like the game are left, it will be less of an issue.

I've definitely plugged on Dragunov, Devil Jin, and Alisa before just out of frustration. Mainly due to mental shit outside of the game. I reevaluated how I viewed the game and now I play ranked a lot less. If I start getting annoyed, I look at replays or do something else.

I do want to add that a fair few people have been experiencing network issues in general which forces a disconnect. I'm lucky to finish a match in online before I get a random disconnect.

I rematch basically everyone. I never had plugger... Till this day, my first win vs Yoshi MightyRuler I already won with RageArt and DC... My god that was annoying... This should be double the loss points.

As a king main im already used to getting raged quit on😑

The real issue is how rank is rewarded. The point system in place is inherently toxic and demonizes losing. Instead of what we have now, here is a suggestion: You lost, that's minus 800 points but: The opponent was higher rank (plus 5 points times the rank difference) You broke 70% of throws (plus 70 points) You block punished 40% of possible attacks (plus 40 points) Etc etc until you end up with a total of 100 points lost or maybe even some points won! Reward good play, give it a solid representation, and you give incentive to people to play better, practice more, finish their matches, rematch, have more fun and play more! How is nobody seeing this solution?

I just hope they have some way of finding the difference between a plug, game crashing or disconnecting because of something on the games side. I get kicked out of an online match nearly every day at around 11 to 12pm and its just a matter of clicking ranked match and the game logs me back in

Just getting the same as a loss when you plug would fix this issue, especially if you got a message saying you lost points when you boot the game up again.