I was made aware of a rather crucial oversight in the Blue Mage calculation: For both Ninja and Blue Mage, I used a 100 potency action to set a "baseline" of how much damage 100 potency is worth, approximately. For Ninja, as Ninja has NO passive damage bonuses (think Maim and Mend), this is trivially simple. But for Blue Mage, I forgot about Maim & Mend V, which actually boosts their damage by 50%. As such, because I included this bonus in my potency calculations, it is only fair to underline that the 100 potency action I used, Saintly Beam, should be considered a *150* potency action, and NOT 100 potency. Because of this, the results shown in the video for Blue Mage, in exact damage numbers, should be divided by 1.5, or in other words, the real maximum should actually only be 2/3rds of the number shown. Naturally, given the hilariously massive amount of damage Blue Mage actually is capable of doing, this changes nothing for the rankings, but, it is worth pointing out that the correct values are as follows: Blue Mage with all the raid buffs: 657817 / 1.5 = 438545 Blue Mage with Basic Instincts: 761886 /1.5 = 507924 A bonus tip is that Domukari in the comments highlighted, is that technically, if all the raid buffs and debuffs were set up, and the players applying them promptly ran off the arena, it would be possible for BLU to use Basic Instincts anyway (Basic Instincts is usable if all other players in the duty are incapacitated), allowing them to use Basic Instincts WITH all the raid buffs, hypothetically. This would mean that the Blue Mage with all the raid buffs situation could also get Basic Instincts added, which would mean that the new limit would potentially be: 438545 x 2 = 877090 An even further addition that multiple commenters mentioned is the fact that certain encounters offer a timeframe where the damage output of the players are doubled, either through a buff increasing their damage (example P8S phoenix buff), or the damage the boss takes is doubled (example Rathalos Extreme while it is downed). If it were somehow possible to bring BLU into such a situation, this number of 877090 could hypothetically be doubled again to 1754180. Alternatively, setting up this situation in an unsynced ARR encounter with the Epic Echo (+300%), could instead quadruple it. It was also suggested that you can build up further Echo up to 50%, although I am not 100% sure on this, but if we assume this is true, if we assume these two types of echo stack multiplicatively, this would allow us to multiply the number by 6, leading to 877090 x 6 = 5 262 540 (Five Million two hundred and sixtytwo thousand five hundred and forty).

I thought the biggest single damage done in the whole game was Yshtola"s "little sun" line to Magnai but this works as well!

White Mage's pocket nuke truly lives up to the "I'm a healer, but." meme.

I know this was done with only "standard" gameplay in mind, but I would highly recommend checking out Bozja and Eureka for even higher maximum hits. I've seen 2million stardiver hits in DRS for example so you could totally do a second follow up video going over that!

Not surprised about WHM being at #3 Was doing TEA with an fc mate the other day and he said that he's died multiple times in the past after Timestop because he's always top in aggro after using Afflatus Misery and the tanks don't always take back aggro fast enough

I got curious about the epic echo buff for this and decided to math it out. A level 90 job going into the lowest level unsynced content possible (sastasha) has an epic echo buff of +300%, or 4 times more damage. That means that a ninja with maximum buffs can do somewhere around 854,392 damage in a single hit, and the blue mage would do a theoretical maximum of around 2,631,268 damage in a single hit.

Glad to come back to a good ol' fashioned Cae Math Video™. Haven't watched the full thing but watching you apply math to FFXIV always brings the most joy! (Also more YT emotes, yay!)

there was no doubt in my mind that hyosho was the highest hit but in my naivete i forgot about the demonic abilities of blue mage. never again will i forget: its limited for a reason

It's kind of funny just how high up the list WHM's Misery is. Sure I know it hits hard, but didn't think it was quite THAT hard. Albiet, mostly because it just so rarely *FEELS* like it hits that hard. And of course that's always a subjective matter anyway.

I dunno how it measures up to what you've got here, but in Eureka some of the big wigs at the ABBA discord found an incredibly unreasonable way to push the damage of a Melee DPS to strong enough to force Absolute Virtue (sans Support fate) down 1hp, in forty seconds, for a total of 14 Million Damage. The way we accomplished this was by abusing a number of damage buffing Lost Actions, specifically Focus, Double Edge and possibly Rapid Recast, I remember just throwing up a second double edge. Then the Samurai (plural, about 40 something of them) hit AV Savage with Midares that were somewhere in the neighborhood of 48800 potency. I'm sweating just remembering it. I dunno how the Healers we had managed to not have a heart attack with the merry hell 40 seconds of Double Edgex16 damage was playing on our healthbars.

I love this, I've always been curious about this. It also helped me understand the raid buffs given by classes, that I don't play, as well!

Blue Mage and Ninja I totally expected. What I did not freaking expect was WHITE MAGE being third XD

Very interesting. Regarding some comments about SAM not being here, it makes sense given the limitation of strongest “single” hit. Though in practice Ogi Namikiri is always followed by Kaeshi: Namikiri and I think of them as one attack.

Haven't watched this yet, but my guess is a mega super crack stacked Blue Mage Final sting

Havent watched the Video yet, but buffed potency alone I would guess the Bozja action, "Lost Slash" with all its supporting dmg multiplier. Looking forward to your conclusion. Edit: Yes, BLU is just stupidly strong. And the strongest skill on a dummy is none of the mentioned. It would be Mortal Flame, due to it being infinitly long ticking. But that would also be a boring awnser. I gonna try how long it really lasts and keep it running for a hour or two.

Amazing video Caetsu! My two fav jobs are at the top so i'm happy as a hippo!

1) You can go into lv50 trials as blu and get epic echo for even more damage. I don't remember but it's in the millions. 2) In Baldesion Arsenal you can catastrophe L + other buff as a tank and get 999,999 damage. that is the damage cap. BA is down sync unlike out in hydatos. That makes it more impressive. 3) With how bozja works now, you can get damage in the millions with lost focus + etc + echo. going boom is my hobby.

ive not done the math to it, but for nonbluemage jobs eureka and bozja both beat the ninja. eureka wisdom of duelist (40%) double edge L 16*15% Focus L 16*30% echo inside eureka instance (60% as far as i know, but could be wrong here) ive seen midare with over 500k dmg (solo group, so no further buffs) same for bozja: those numbers would be hard to archieve since im not sure, if its actually possible to use all buffs before the first one runs out again, but in theory with further increase by the bozja specific party buffs like lost rend armor (target takes 10% more dmg), lost banish 3 on undead boss (target takes 25% dmg), lost bravery (5% more dmg) it would be for melees: lost focus 16*30% lost font of power 30% banner of noble ends 50% pure essence of duelist 60% banner of honorred sacrifice 55% drs duel buff 100% lost excellence/mimic: 65%

It would be interesting to see this stiff taken unsynced into rathalos EX (sure a 4 man party limitation) since the 'down' in the 2nd phase applies a vulnerability debuff to rathalos that doubles the damage it takes

I can't wait to see the level of BS the new Limited Job can get up to, if Blue Mage can do this kind of stuff.

You know, when you consider the whole FF1 thing (famously mentioned in Nuclear Power's 8-Bit Theater webcomic), White Mages in Final Fantasy have a history of being EXTREMELY powerful via the spell Holy. While FF14's WHM's Holy is much weaker due to being an AOE filler spell, Misery seems to be the spiritual successor to the single player FF game's Holy spell, the ultimate White Magic. "Coming out of no where" into 3rd place makes sense. NIN's Kassasu Ice Release also makes sense. And BLU...this is why BLU isn't allowed in normal content. XD

I'd love to have a reference point for scale. How much is NIN's 213k in relation to, let's say, the HP of Extreme Zeromus? You could also measure it by the HP of 4-man Ultima Weapon and find out how many of them Hyosho Ranryu would chew through :P

Mega math Time Very great, full Math approach Before the video my quick, half an hour calculation for a "normal" group composition was... ~340.000 damage. I used dancer's technical finish but later also realized that Nin would be better, but I didn't had numbers and.. didn't expect the difference to be aroun 33%. The additional buff I used was the Phoenix buff from p8s which doubles damage. And then I guess I made a mistake somewhere when I scaled up the damage from logs with abysos Gear to current gear and probably wrongly adding and removing buffs.

Red mage should be up there, right? Its resolution has approximately 1074.94 power with maim and mend, manafication, and embolden, putting it in 10th place. If it was about the "single strongest weaponskill" instead of strike, bard could have made it up there too, but alas, its barrage-boosted refulgent arrow is three hits in one weaponskill. Great video! I've always wanted to know this stuff - really surprised monk is up there being as fast as it is!

I haven’t watched it all the way through, but what are the strongest buff from Raids themselves? Would we be able to push things even further with P8S’s Phoenix buff?

So how about using it in the last phase of UCoB or P8S? Hehe, well, we do know what increase the damage will be of course, but that'd be quite the effort for a showcase. Or how about using it with capped elemental bonus in eureka versus a level 1 monster? I wonder if you may hit damage cap that way... Actually, I tested monk alone just now, and a normal critical (non direct-hit) in Eureka just gave me a hit of 350,033. I think Tornado Kick in eureka may still be stronger than blue mage. Edit, I also don't have those rare two elemental bonuses or elemental bonus gear on monk to do this with, let alone a party of people to buff me.

I never would've guessed that the clickiest job also had one of the strongest abilities.

Just for context, a quick look at fflogs tells me the fastest (and thus presumably best-geared) listed clears of P8S feature melee LB3s doing ~540k damage each. Since LBs don't benefit from almost any damage buffs, that's probably about as much as one could expect it to do, which is far better than anything Hyosho Ranryu can do, and just barely beats Final Sting with the corrected numbers from the pinned comment And also if looking at the highest *single* hit a blue mage can do (so not DoTs) *without killing themself* (so no final string or self-destruct) not including enemy HP scaling (so no Missile, Launcher, Tail Screw or Dimensional Shift), you'd use either Divine Cataract (Chelonian Gate re-activation) or Sea Shanty (in an instance with the proper weather, if one exists), either of which is 1000 water-aspected magic potency (so half base damage, with a ~17% penalty from having to use bristle instead of whistle, but possibly benefitting from another alliance's blue mage's Peculiar Light for +5%), which winds up being... just barely above the NIN numbers at ~192k I think?

I mean, the technical finish test seems pretty easy, cast tech finish solo 10 times, then get another dancer, get them to tech finish first, then you tech finish, see if the damage is higher?

Cae, you're gonna have to check Viper, Pictomancer and Beastmaster as well, when you get the chance.

Would have thought SAMs Ogi-Namikiri would rank pretty high, considering Party Buffs. Since Crit/DH Buffs pretty much directly increase the DMG of Autocrit skills and these Buffs sit at way higher Percentages Ogi Namikiris Potency should skyrocket. Havent done the Math yet, but in a Grp with AST, SCH, DRG, DNC and RDM this should hurt.

My personal best on my WHM was just under 100k for AM. My jaw almost hit the floor when that happened.

I’m surprised afflatus misery made it to 2nd place! and it’s a skill used roughly once a minute, so does that make whm more swingy than nin?

I cherish my screenshot from years ago in shadowbringers when my sam hit 150k then another 150k right after from the second midere back to back and I was so hyped lol never saw it again after the nerf and then endwalker Stat squish

Glad you pointed out Mortal Flame. There is a limit to it though, not an intended limit but a limit non the less. Mortal Flames debuff on the striking dummy would be removed when you inevitably are kicked from the server for maintenance. So in theory there is a number that could be calculated if you were determined enough. You would have to know which patch is going to be the longest. You would have to calculate how quickly a dedicated group could log in after that new patch, complete the setup, and apply mortal flame. Then calculate how many ticks the DOT would get before the server is shut down again for the next patch. As for damage from a single hit. I can't believe I'm saying this but I think you low balled BLU numbers. Missile does 50% of current HP, so if the boss is vulnerable to Missile, the damage from that is almost certainly higher than the number you calculated, and we didn't even have to do 90% of that math. TLDR of this entire video: BLU is busted in so many ways.

Assuming that all these conditions are met for both NIN and BLU, which bosses could that one shot?

Wouldn't it be a even bigger damage gain to not be wearing actual ninja BiS, but gear tailored towards full crit/DH, with no sks

can't you peak with raid buffs if everyone immediately walls for maximum basic instinct damage, or do raid buffs fall off when they die?

Can't wait to see the biggest heal !

Would the new Azeyma's Earring increase or decrease BLU potency I wonder?

Oh I know the answer! the biggest hit in this game is to my heart last night when I lost my sprout :(

If you want to see the biggest single number from a hit, you should look into Bozja’s many buffs and potions.

Great vid, though 13 mil dmg afflatus misera whm from bozja would like to have a talk 😂

As a RDM main, I am sad but understanding that we do not end up on the top 10 list. But considering we'd be stepping in with like, Scorch (680 and +20% from Manafication) or Resolution (750 and +15% from manafication), we're not there to be the big damage dealers; we're there to look good, offer buffs, and bring the big damage dealers back when they get splatted by mechanics.

yes but have you considered blue mage's flying sardine?

May wanna double check your SMN math. Ahk Morn is 1300 potency, where'd that 880 you used come from? I didn't see anything explaining it in the vid unless I'm just being dumb cus it's super late and I'm kinda tired. Also, what is with the 1/6 nerf for pets? In what way does that make any sense? They are still the players skill/spell being activated correct?

Is tanks dealing 20% less damage still a thing ? I mean, for example, Paladin had Shield Oath before getting Iron Will with ShB, and while activated, Shield Oath was indeed reducing damage by 20% at first, then 15% in patch 3.2 And now, Iron will is just an enmity buff so ... ?

4:25 U did the calc correct, but accidentally still put xenoglossy's base dmg for the main&mend calc

Dragoon leap off a platform. Hits harder than any boss and can't be mitigated. Is avoidable though.

My mind melted in the first couple minutes.

love video :) but where is dragoon?

what about machinist’s wildfire? it probably won’t beat hyosho ranryu but it would surely make it in the top 10 as it has a base potency of 1,440

potency + trait buffs

I'll admit there is a small part of me that wants to just sit and watch a training dummy burn under mortal flame... forever.

No wonder why blue mage is a limited job, its too powerful with that crazy final sting spell

Isn't the "20% Damage Reduction" for tanks just what the tank stance used to say back in SB and earlier? I don't believe there is a damage reduction for tanks anymore, and the lv1 tank mastery trait actually INCREASES damage dealt based on the Strength Stat. And the current tank stance now only "significantly increases enmity generation" instead of increasing enmity generation AND decreasing damage dealt. It was part of the whole "stance swap" thing that used to exist, the aggro stance and the damage dealing stance.

Go ninja, go ninja, go!

Basically I heard at the end “Fun fact this was all for nothing” and I think that’s beautiful.

I was hoping this would end up in Bozja with 1mil dmg WHM Misery or something, since theoretically its also possible and part of the game

Is xeno really affected by enochian ? I thought the unaspected part of it meant not affected by it

Out of curiosity, does anything in Bozja shake this up?

I feel like this really illustrates how bad it feels to get a regular hit.

You forgot the echo damage bonus

What about blue mage as support for ninja? Libra + off guard + peculiar light since mudra is magic, it counts as ice and off guard is generic.

Final sting is the highest Potency attack that you can only do once. So make it worth

What about Melee LB3?

Oh wait was Atherical Mimic DPS taken i to account for these calculations?

Now do Bozja buff stacking :)

LimitBreakers but for FFXIV

BLU's potency is rather misguided because the weapon provides no Intelligence stat. From my experience at lvl 70 as a free trial, BLU's 50% Maim and Mend makes it hit about as strong as a regular caster's Maim and Mend 30% for the same potency attack.

I get giving BLU the NIN buff for calculations but why didn't you give NIN the BLU buffs since NIN could also benefit from 2 BLU either in or out of the party applying off guard and peculiar light?

Wait so blue mage final sting isn’t the highest dps?

Samurai? was sure Sam was nr 1 xD..., without Bluemage

Oh right, final sting

Aaawww Sam lost the Top DPS :(((

RIP samurai's 1250 potency midare setsugekka, kaiten will be missed

Oh yassss my main doing the most damage hehe 🥷🏿

Ok but I do higher hit with final sting

LB3

Drg stays losing🎉🎉🎉

Now we need to know which job has the highest full combo damage, and also which job has the most DPS over a course of 120 seconds.