I know it was rigged

@@Pro32458what the hell did lachie do whole year.

No Petracca didn’t deserve any votes he wasn’t worthy of one in those games

He had 4 clearances 1 tackle and 14 contested possessions

Errol Gulden not polling 3 was a joke tho

and well done to JHF getting more votes then butters and rozee for a few rounds

Gazza Jr got overtaken in 2014 in the last round and he got injured in round 16

I put $100 on Errol at the start of the season at 81/1 and if he had of got the 3 he deserved in the final game and Neale didn’t get votes he didn’t deserve, I was getting a nice little payday … 😅

I had no doubt that Anderson and Gulden would feature. They were clearly the standout player for both of their teams.

Yeh that is true

Yeah. Everybody agrees that Neale is outstanding, but when the coaches ranked 4 other players higher than him for the season, it’s odd. Lachie himself wasn’t expecting the win.

Plus he was not even in the all Australian team

Not sure how he didn’t make the all Australian

@@MrCat73 He should've though

cripps didn't win it AFLPA last year, bont carried his team to a loss against the eagles

carried what.. couldnt even carry his team into finals.

@@tiguanr4960 his shoulders and back were sore by Rd 24

@@messi4brownlow and the 18 AFL coaches still had Bont the 2nd best player of the year, and if you converted the coaches votes to a 3-2-1 system, Bont would have won that too

plus didn't make all australian, AFL is a joke

Exactly !

Didn't get any coaches votes for that game. "Josh Kelly (41 disposals) and Stephen Coniglio (38 and nine clearances) also had big games as Neale was overlooked entirely by the coaches, but grabbed three from the umpires." - AFL. Kelly got 7 coaches vote, Charlie Cameron 10

I remember Chris Judd getting 3 votes . None at all from any media votes that round. Outplayed by his direct opponent. More disposals at a much higher efficiency. His opponent gets 1 vote.

The umpires can’t even make holding the ball decisions, so what do we expect … 😅

@@ma3stro681 Master statement. So true.

Daicos was injured for the last 4 rounds and Neale didn't deserve the 3 votes against Collingwood or giants, he had 20 disposals and no goals against the giants while kelly and cogs had 41 and 38. rigged

mate your spelling is a joke

not everything is about disposals and fantasy points@@anthonychief1365

It's terrible, soo many votes were way off to what every other person who watched AFL would've said. After the last few years I think the coaches award is more accurate to best player of a season. Neale didn't win any other award or even radio show awards for best player of the year. It's ridiculous now

Neale deserved 3 votes for a round that neither Fages or the oppo coach gave him a single coaches vote for? He got 3 Brownlow votes.

I am a lions fan and agree

I choked. Neale did not get All Australian. No ump votes.

​@@craigk2644Same as Matt Priddis back in 2014.

@@taliamason7986 So this been going for yrs ?

Ha Ha what a Joke this was Rigged Bont should of Won it Fair & Square

@@josnova68 There will be no investigation at all into the bogus votes for Neale and a few other players. The medal is a farce. AFL glamour night is a name of shame.

Umpires don't look at stats

Umpires can't just focus on star players if they did There would be no umpires. They have the pressure of fans to umpire correctly and efficently and they don't have access to watch the game again or look at the statistics of the players nonetheless why it is a midfield award because they make the umpires see them.

Umps are not blind. Are on the take. There is going to be zero investigation into the blatant rorting of the votes.

@@andrewkerr5296 Yes, but surely they should remember a lot of the times that Gulden got the ball and kicked the 2nd most goals for the game.

​@@andrewkerr5296they can and often do look at the stats. They have even admitted to that on Roaming Brian 😂

yes and he only got 7 kicks for whole game. cameron kicked 7 goals and josh kelly 41 disposals and stephen conigilo 38 disposals in same game. not too sure if the umpires were corrupt or what.

He also didnt get votes againts west coast when he should've had 2-3 and only got 1 againts st kilda in round 15 where he should've polled 2-3

I find it hard to believe there were many games a Bulldog played better than him, he was the stand out player even in losses.

@@TheEnvelopeOZ it was in the wins, similar to viney polling heaps and taking a bunch from Trac. This conversation comes up every year for the brownlow, bont won the players MVP which is a far better award

@@TheEnvelopeOZlibba adam stranded out a lot especially libba

and Lachie neale 20 disposals ik he had a good game and all but not deserving of BOG it should of been Charlie Cameron 7 goals or Josh Kelly and Coniglo which both had 41 disposals and 38 disposals respectively. but he was unlucky in round 15 against St kilda where he got 29 disposals 9 clearances 141 ranking points

I'm reading now about that game. Rd 14: "Perhaps the most surprising three-vote game came via Jason Horne-Francis in round 14. With 13 disposals at 53.8 per cent efficiency and two clearances, the Port Adelaide midfielder somehow secured maximum Brownlow votes in a win over the Cats. Dan Houston (31 disposals and six clearances) got the nod from the coaches but missed out on Brownlow votes altogether, while Connor Rozee (25 disposals) was also overlooked by the umps" - AFL

ong the stupidity of some ppl

pretty sure he's on extended 44 man list

@@messi4brownlow Not the final team.

I mean Neale had 31 votes and didn’t make the cut

@@ethandavies8989 Mind boggling lol

Who are you leaving out for Viney? Neale would’ve been in before him for starters. You’ll struggle to make All Australian when you are in the bottom 10% for kicking efficiency.

he opens it to read it?

Neale is in the top stats

@@imalwaysright yeah but I'm more referring to individual games

You don't have to the best in the afl you just need to be consistent and be the best throughout the season

I Got Women’s High Heel Shoes In My Dreams From The 2023 AFL Brownlow Medal.

Umpires don't look at stats & don't count players possessions

I Know, They go into a room after the game and don’t have access to there phones. It’s still pretty shocking though, especially cause im a dogs fan and was rooting for the bont SO MUCH.

@@FootyFrenzyAFL Umpires are stupid they don't play Footy

I actually think the real problem is most umps these days aren’t real footy fans or ex players, so their true understanding of the game is limited. They do it as a profession and don’t genuinely follow the sport, and this goes for local footy as well. Even then some things are clear as day and can’t understand Neale winning 🤷🏼‍♂️

Still had most clearances for the team and had a huge impact with his work around stoppages without getting huge numbers. He also frequently goes to most dangerous opponent and curtails them.

Me to

Daicos had it in the bag if not for the injury, but bont deserved it.

he wasn't robbed, his team mates took votes off of him. do you know how brownlow voting even works

Overrated

@@ethandavies8989who are you?

Haha😂

@@drasticturnip358 get mad

Who tf is Nile and Botempelly? 🤣

That spelling of their names is amazing 😂

it should’ve been Daicos, bro got not no votes for 4 rounds.

​@@joelsmartNile is one of the famous rivers in the world. Couldn't really tell you what the other one is.

@@taliamason7986😂😂😂

your forgetting that daicos was pretty quiet even leading up to his injury

and bont was red hot and he was polling vote after vote in the second half of the season he could have won if there were more rounds

He would have won because his last name is Daicos.

He had 20 possessions (7 kicks 13 handballs) but you were close! 😂😂😂

@@SteveSmith-ot9vk that's my husband's fault lol he told me 7 but that was just kicks

casual

Gulden > Daicos

oh look its another "bont carries his team" fan, bont carried his team to a loss against the eagles

@@messi4brownlowok tell me what the hell lachie Neale did all year

​@@messi4brownlowBont robbed in clear daylight

@@FalseBavariaKing at the very least a spot in the finals

@@messi4brownlow that’s a team achievement lmao

All Australian is done by Vic media people ofc he didn't make it, he had a better year than serong and merrett only didn't make it because of how good his standards are

@@Moz111 Also sheed single handedly kept them in it for 3 quarters, its all about what the umpires notice. The brownlow has never been perfect

Daicos getting cheap touches great player doesn’t deserve right now

@@drasticturnip358 Neale is a great player no doubt!, Daicos picked up 38 and 41 touches in games he didn't even get 1 vote, Neale gets 20 touches and gets 3 votes same day Charlie Cameron kicks 7 goals for 2 votes.🤷‍♂️

rd 7: jaicos, dawson, laird, mitchell all had better stats and more impact, fine decision rd 8: daicos had 25 touches (less than a lot of players) and 0 clearances, 0 scores, and 1 score involvement, mihocek had 5 goals and pendles was the bog rd 9: 41 touches 23 handballs, probably deserved one vote but again no clearances, no tackles, no scores, 1 involvement. he can get the ball given to him but degoey and mitchell doing most of the work in the midfield plus cox playing ruck with 19 touches 24 hitouts and 2 goals is fairly deserving of votes rd 10: 27 touches was not bog, 3 tackles but 0 marks. polls went to mitchell who had most clearances on ground and 26 touches, moore had 25 touches 11 marks holding ur backline and mihocek w 4 goals, if anyone got robbed it was docharty with 34 touches 25 of those kicks 3rd most clearances but this is just looking at stats. umps do not see the stats they only go off what they remember and who they think had the biggest impact on ground

Brisbane have won the last 1 of 14 at the MCG. 😂 but yeh “use the pies as a punching bag”

Neale Norm Smith incoming

Dusty 2017 lol@@noahh1870

@@seanhil5801 brisbane have also won the last 5 games against the pies, 2 at the g, 2 at gabba and 1 at marvel

​@@seanhil58012 actually.

@@Moz111yes he was

He's been so close so many times but he gets robbed every time. Happened again in 2021 not as bad tho

how about he lay a tackle? (he got 3, Viney 12) Neale also top clearance player for Bris that game which usually gets you noticed.

@@djbrak1434 viney? Wrong game champ. I'm referring to round 6 vs gws 7 kicks 20 possies

Viney I'm referring to was in last game of year where Trac needed votes. and Neale did get most clearances in Rd 6 @@Clownage69

@@djbrak1434Fages didn’t notice - didnt award him a single coaches vote. Cogs had the highest clearances of the game, Kelly highest contested possessions. Josh Kelly got 7 coaches votes, behind Charlie Cameron, who got perfect 10

he doesnt, he said multiple times he doesnt think hell win it and put bont above him, he wouldve ofc been happy to receive it as would anyone but he isnt full of it mate

@@papleylivesrentfreeinurhead he had some interview this morning where he thought that the votes during the rounds “evened out” this was in response to his 20 touch 3 vote robbery, he was also complaining about not receiving votes last year.

I know, like what the hell did Neal do this whole year? And I’m not a dogs fan.

That’s alright, everyone already knows how much better bontempelli is than Neale

​@@Ididtheaskedthe thing is Neale is the only one getting votes for the lions that's why

stop the cap

@@Ididtheasked he deserved it so much more🙄😭

bont maybe

Josh, Nick or Peter?

they have multiple medals prepared for the different locations or case there is a tie. That's not a riddle.

Yeah a real mystery…😂😂😂

Jamie Cripps kicked 5 and had 20 touches 😜

u know the umps do ya? i think neale has competition with naicos theyre both clean posession getters, neale more contested naicos more possesions. important to note that umpires dont get to see anything when they vote, no stats, no outside info nothing. as for bont: against sydney he was bog shouldve had him for 3 and errol 2 however errol was bog for dees game and he got 1. against gws there were multiple players who played well on both sides, many players couldve polled but since the giants won and toby kicked 20 and 5 he gets the 3. against essendon he shouldve gotten 3, 27 and 2 plus 12 clearances shouldve been an easy 3. but this is the brownlow, weird votes happen all the time and as i said the umps dont see the stats they see the game from their vision

And that’s the problem. You look at 20 and 5 and assume that Cripps must have been BOG. Meanwhile I actually watched the game and could see that the influence Kelly and Bontempelli exerted over the game was by far the most.

it lost credibility back in 2012

@@messi4brownlow true that

​@@messi4brownlow Or even 2008.

Everyone knows how it works mate… everyone just agrees it’s a joke

@@FootyLife227 if its a joke why do you care so much? haha cry more

It’s not his fault

@@messi4brownlow just accept it mate Neale stole the brownlow

@@FootyLife227 stole from who exactly?

AGREED

why do you watch it mate

yea but yall lost

It shouldn’t be about who lost it should be who played the best

@@natemurphy267 it's not tho

Let’s be real smith was not best on ground. He was being fed the ball A LOT since it was his last game and missed shot after shot on goal. Stats say one thing, but if you actually watched the game his overall effectiveness wasn’t too great. Bont won the game for the dogs and carried his team on his shoulders like he does every week

​@@curtis6618exactly