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The Trade: Ricky Williams to the Saints

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The usual outcome of a well-discussed trade is a completely lopsided outcome. Take the Herschel Walker Trade, for example: We all know that the Cowboys won that deal in a landslide. But what about the trades where there was no winner? One of the more infamous deals where this is easily true is the Ricky Williams Trade. One team desperate to get the running back they felt would take them to greater heights. Another team simply cashing in on a mammoth haul.
What went wrong? This video will explain (although it might be obvious considering the teams involved).

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@austinemms9772
@austinemms9772 Жыл бұрын
This needs to be done a lot more often. This has potential to become a great series.
@jclips2098
@jclips2098 Жыл бұрын
I think the james shields for tatis trade would be a good one. Especially since it’s kinda been shitty for both sides, with tatis popping and all.
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Жыл бұрын
Mariners fan here, and the 96 trade we made (Dave Hollins for a prospect David Ortiz) should be in this series.
@qshot9848
@qshot9848 Жыл бұрын
Archer Trade or countless Rays Trades should be a great one. Especially the Archer Trade with how it set back the team at least 3 years
@guitarheromorello
@guitarheromorello Жыл бұрын
Rangers trade Mark Texiera to the Braves to get two AL Pennants and launch the careers of various players.
@raineob4996
@raineob4996 Жыл бұрын
The Gretzky trade would be a gem.
@sherwood750
@sherwood750 Жыл бұрын
I swear he’s starting this series so he can talk about the Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson trades next year.
@Mr___f
@Mr___f Жыл бұрын
Such awful trades for the Broncos and Browns. It is going to be interesting to see which one ends up being worse this year.
@sawyertuide7636
@sawyertuide7636 Жыл бұрын
I think the Watson and Wilson trades should wait until 2030 because we don’t know the full extent of what those picks really resulted in when it comes to team success It won’t be known if the Texans mismanaged the deal or if the Seahawks built a dynasty by next year
@ronnickels5193
@ronnickels5193 Жыл бұрын
​@@sawyertuide7636 gonna have to agree with this, at least for Wilson. We still don't know if Geno has really developed and we haven't seen the result of the pick.
@nicominckler3030
@nicominckler3030 Жыл бұрын
​@@sawyertuide7636 MN m- n
@kurtpunchesthings2411
@kurtpunchesthings2411 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr___f oh dude the Seahawks must have been laughing so hard when the Broncos took that Trade it will not surprise me if the Seahawks win their second ring by the end of the 20s
@hymmz360
@hymmz360 Жыл бұрын
As someone who’s only been paying attention to the NFL for a few years, this is a really cool series to help get new people educated about past NFL history.
@chazztreat8317
@chazztreat8317 Жыл бұрын
Are you shitting me!!! WE COULD"VE HAD MCNABB?!!?!
@HaydenU
@HaydenU Жыл бұрын
@@chazztreat8317 "The Browns is the Browns" -- Juju
@themachine9290
@themachine9290 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Almost all of my nfl history knowledge is from tree and clickbait
@pokehybridtrainer
@pokehybridtrainer Жыл бұрын
Exactly this.
@crowtservo
@crowtservo Жыл бұрын
@@themachine9290 You’re probably more knowledgeable than anyone who watches ESPN Classic.
@LordLowe
@LordLowe Жыл бұрын
You’re probably wondering why the Deadskins didn’t become a dynasty or at least Super Bowl Contenders because of this Trade Two words Dan Snyder
@gamera5160
@gamera5160 Жыл бұрын
That was exactly my feeling. I was like "this seems like a suspiciously good deal for a Snyder-run team" and then I connected the dots on the date and realized that '99 was the year Snyder bought the team. What a miserable two-and-a-half decades it's been for Washington football...
@MazeDaGr8
@MazeDaGr8 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, Even if you have a bunch of picks you have to know what to do with them
@karenwang313
@karenwang313 Жыл бұрын
Washington? Bro y'all's have had it pretty good considering how good the Seahawks have been for the last decade.
@dkth3inkmachine698
@dkth3inkmachine698 Жыл бұрын
​@@karenwang313 3 words. Legion. Of. Boom.
@crazyluigi6664
@crazyluigi6664 Жыл бұрын
@@MazeDaGr8 Even the idea of knowing what to do isn't enough. Ask the Phoenix Suns during the 2010's on that... specifically in 2016 & 2017.
@GlobalNomadPete
@GlobalNomadPete Жыл бұрын
I met Ricky Williams in a hostel in Melbourne, Australia. Never knew who the guy was. Just an absolute unit of a human that mostly kept to himself. Later found out and see why he left the hostel the moment 2 young Americans arrived.
@patrickb33339
@patrickb33339 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a video about the Jared Goff-Matt Stafford trade in a few years.
@tleoipl37
@tleoipl37 Жыл бұрын
As rams fan I agree. He should do the rg3 rams too
@bmac4
@bmac4 Жыл бұрын
Honestly though? It's so far worked out. Goff looks better than he's ever been, Stafford won a ring.
@canoncoriell9105
@canoncoriell9105 Жыл бұрын
It’s actually a good trade, it worked out for both teams thus far
@daverobb8311
@daverobb8311 Жыл бұрын
​@@tleoipl37 Commanders fans don't acknowledge THAT Redskins trade. 😂😂
@Ravens_Den
@Ravens_Den Жыл бұрын
It’s been pretty good for both teams so far.
@jacobvanveldhuizen4365
@jacobvanveldhuizen4365 Жыл бұрын
Cincinnatti rejecting that offer AND THEN drafting Akili Smith might be the worst day of decisions for any GM in any sport in world history.
@jharp08
@jharp08 7 ай бұрын
You know Mike Brown wasn't trying to spend money
@kevintrice2444
@kevintrice2444 3 ай бұрын
Seriously, how do you reject that offer?
@TheRoseBoy11
@TheRoseBoy11 Жыл бұрын
That Ricky Williams wedding photo will forever be the most cursed image in NFL history
@epicchk4319
@epicchk4319 Жыл бұрын
New York Giants Boat Picture
@manzac112
@manzac112 Жыл бұрын
Edgerrin James would end up becoming a key piece to the Colts being Super Bowl contenders with Peyton Manning, was rewarded for his efforts by receiving a Super Bowl 41 ring, was a key leader in the Cardinals' 2008-09 Super Bowl run, and a Hall of Famer.
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Жыл бұрын
Edge technically was traded before 2006, but he was given a ring by the team.
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 Жыл бұрын
Edge was also picked 4rd Overall, right before Ricky. If you saw Ricky at Texas...you'd know why Ditka did this....so they never had the chance for Edge.
@manzac112
@manzac112 Жыл бұрын
@@fortynights1513 I forgot about that. Thanks.
@High5748
@High5748 Жыл бұрын
The Edge was definitely a key piece in Manning development just it does make an interesting what if scenario had they taken the trade. That Superbowl mostly had to do with the Booger McFarland trade, Adam Viniteri and Bob Sanders healthy playoff run. Gotta remember the Colts had a historically bad run defense in that Super bowl season. The Colts could have had more Super Bowls if they had a better defense which is why I think that trade is an interesting what if.
@PADRII
@PADRII Жыл бұрын
​@@fortynights1513 Left in FA, not traded.
@lisgod3
@lisgod3 Жыл бұрын
I'm loving this mini series on big trades.
@goldensteeltv8546
@goldensteeltv8546 Жыл бұрын
You should do the Jerome Bettis trade. Like the Herschel Walker trade, the Bettis trade is one of the most lopsided in NFL history. The Steelers had their best running back since Franco Harris, whereas Bettis’ replacement was Lawrence Phillips, whose draft bust story is sad and tragic. At least the Rams made up for it by trading for Marshall Faulk, so at least they got their happy ending.
@UrinatingTree
@UrinatingTree Жыл бұрын
And the sad part is that the Steelers would've never traded for Jerome Bettis if Bam Morris was never arrested for drugs.
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 Жыл бұрын
@@UrinatingTree - Dude was a true trafficker, eventually losing his NFL career completely to prison.
@aroperdope
@aroperdope Жыл бұрын
I had no idea that happened to Bam...
@Fireyninjadog
@Fireyninjadog Жыл бұрын
Barry foster
@RatedRMario21
@RatedRMario21 Жыл бұрын
In Ricky's defense, he smoked pot in India in 2004 because Dave "As Good As Anyone" Wannstedt literally ran him into the ground to the tune of 872 combined touches (775 carries) in 2002 and 2003
@hitek9too255
@hitek9too255 5 ай бұрын
Yea he took a pounding on the Dolphins.
@hailmendoza6106
@hailmendoza6106 Жыл бұрын
Makes me so blessed to have lived through the Payton-Brees era.
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Жыл бұрын
New Orleans was pretty darn good for a decade and change. The best stretch before that was probably Dome Patrol in the late 80’s and early 90’s. Other than that, most of the rest of their history before then, the Saints sucked. In particular in their first 11 seasons from 1967-1977, they had a .253 winning percentage (imagine how bad they could’ve been if they had a bad quarterback, and the supporting cast they surrounded Archie Manning with).
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia Жыл бұрын
@@fortynights1513 Going 4-12 for a decade does not sound like fun
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Жыл бұрын
@@warlordofbritannia The best seasons they had were 5-9 in that stretch, then they were 7-9 and 8-8 in 1978 and 79, the latter saw them have five pro bowlers in a very watered down season for the NFC.
@LNReallyLikeThat
@LNReallyLikeThat Жыл бұрын
As someone who started watching football this year, I never knew what this was like
@kurtpunchesthings2411
@kurtpunchesthings2411 Жыл бұрын
yea i know the Saints only got 1 Ring with Brees but they had an insane period of consistency in 15 seasons they won 7 Division Titles 1 Superbowl and made the playoffs 9 times
@BlackFlagsMatter
@BlackFlagsMatter Жыл бұрын
Washington had the bigger L. How you have all those picks and not win a championship?
@tecnolog2000
@tecnolog2000 Жыл бұрын
Two words Dan Snyder
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if this many picks were given to a team in the 1983 draft and a team hit on those picks. Could have set up a perennial contender.
@nengehtardzer2839
@nengehtardzer2839 Жыл бұрын
It's Washington
@vaulthuntershawn260
@vaulthuntershawn260 Жыл бұрын
As a Washington fan, I ask myself the same thing
@andrewgrove1691
@andrewgrove1691 Жыл бұрын
@@tecnolog2000 yup
@OscarNunezFilms
@OscarNunezFilms Жыл бұрын
I could see this being VERY nostalgic to older Football fans, but as someone born in 97, this is vastly educational towards a period before my time. Super interesting! Thanks Tree!
@tehbeernerd
@tehbeernerd Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the Taylor Hall trade. Not the one you’re thinking of, but the one that sent him to Arizona for Kevin Bahl, a pick that became Dawson Mercer, and a pick that became a trade for Jonas Siegenthaler.
@josephnajarian2038
@josephnajarian2038 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, New Jersey literally maximized his value. Got him for absolutely nothing, got an MVP season and a playoff appearance from him, and traded him for draft picks used on integral players to their current success.
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
Wish he had a ring
@BondandBourne
@BondandBourne Жыл бұрын
@@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza very good chance taylor hall can get his ring during this nhl playoffs
@dfp_01
@dfp_01 Жыл бұрын
@@BondandBourne Two words. Well, one and a number. Lightning 2019
@UrinatingTree
@UrinatingTree Жыл бұрын
And the funny part was that I felt it was a bulk return for Hall at the time. Guess that's what happens when you replace GM's and steer a failing rebuild in the right direction.
@charlesbarkley223
@charlesbarkley223 Жыл бұрын
The style of your story telling combined with highlights and the graphics to elaborate really brings the football history to life
@MarquisdeSuave
@MarquisdeSuave Жыл бұрын
I always felt bad for Williams. On top of being overburdened by expectations he also signed what was one of the absolute WORST rookie contracts of all-time. EVERYTHING was incentive based but the incentives were nearly impossible for Williams to achieve. Hr would almost have to surpass Eric Dickerson's rushing numbers in his first 2 years (1808 and 2105yds) to make 1/2 of what was offered on his contract.
@aroperdope
@aroperdope Жыл бұрын
I still remember him in the Miami Dolphins Wildcat packages...
@roboninja3194
@roboninja3194 10 ай бұрын
That's what happens when you hire Master P as your agent 🤣
@RobdaVegasMailman
@RobdaVegasMailman Жыл бұрын
I lived in New Orleans at the time. I'll never forget laughing hysterically while listening to the Saints' radio network during the draft. "We just got our feature back for the next 10 years and he's gonna make it worthwhile." In retrospect, I think that I know where Rickey used to get his stash in New Orleans...
@jonsmith1956
@jonsmith1956 Жыл бұрын
If you do one on the RG3 trade, I just want to make a note on something: Yes the Rams failed the 2014 #2 pick they got on giant bust Greg Robinson BUT if it weren't for having that pick, Rams never would've gotten Aaron Donald and would've drafted OL at #13 instead.
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
Pitt sends its regards
@FIFODavid
@FIFODavid Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a feature of the '99-present Browns drafting QB's. Trading down for teams to draft QB's all while failing to draft successful QB's themselves.
@edgaroni_vi1117
@edgaroni_vi1117 Жыл бұрын
Just as the "legacy of failure" and lolcow videos were (and still are) extremely entertaining to watch, I have a feeling this is gonna be another favorite chapter for me in the course of this underrated channel. Keep up the great work, man!
@austinreed5805
@austinreed5805 Жыл бұрын
An idea of another The Trade video is one about Ted Stepien. A man who’s deals permanently changed the NBA.
@Jame5man
@Jame5man Жыл бұрын
You could do one on the Lindros trade to Philly. Or the Gretzky trade
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 Жыл бұрын
Dangle has already done those to Death. Hockey Trade Trees are all Steve Dangle has, why would you try to take that from him? Seriously though, leave the NHL ones to Dangle, Tree can do every other Sport.
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
...Alex Rodriguez?
@AlanNadeauIII
@AlanNadeauIII Жыл бұрын
I did a trade tree video on this deal a while back. Obviously it's pretty big considering how many picks NOLA gave up, but what makes it more insane is some the players that pop up in it, both on the side of the picks traded and on Ricky's side of the tree when NOLA moved him later on
@daverobb8311
@daverobb8311 Жыл бұрын
Was it Chris Samuels or LaVar Arrington who Washington took with that #2 pick in 2000. I remember they both got drafted to Washington in back to back picks but I don't remember who was drafted first the LB or LT (who should be in the HOF).
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 Жыл бұрын
LaVar was that pick...but he got injured constantly. Was great on the field but injuries Destroyed his career. Chris Samuels had nothing to do with the Trade. LaVar and Desmond Clark are the only picks that panned out.
@daverobb8311
@daverobb8311 Жыл бұрын
@@justinlast2lastharder749 yeah I know Washington got the 3rd overall pick in a different trade. I think with San Francisco but I really don't remember. I just remember Washington took Arrington and Samuels back to back in the first 3 picks. And Courtney Brown went 1st overall to the Browns
@AlanNadeauIII
@AlanNadeauIII Жыл бұрын
@@justinlast2lastharder749 Buddy, I'd suggest watching the video I mentioned. I promise, you'd be surprised who you find in it
@AlanNadeauIII
@AlanNadeauIII Жыл бұрын
@@daverobb8311 Arrington was the 2000 1st rounder
@Younima4
@Younima4 Жыл бұрын
You need to cover the Roy Williams trade. It's massively underlooked compared to the Hershel Walker and Ricky Williams trades.
@DIO-ey4nx
@DIO-ey4nx Жыл бұрын
Another trade that nobody benefited from lol
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 Жыл бұрын
He fell off a Cliff once he went to a team that didn't exclusively play in Garbage Time.
@SyndicateSuperman
@SyndicateSuperman Жыл бұрын
Roy Williams and a 7th from DET for a 1st, 3rd and 6th via DAL was bad but that was a nut kick for only one season. Nowhere close to how much the Vikes got bent over and forced to like it.
@leetphelps2516
@leetphelps2516 Жыл бұрын
The first football team I was a fan of was the longhorns. Ricky was basically my first favorite football player. I basically became a fan of the Saints because he was drafted there and am still a fan of the team to this day.
@dougmhd2006
@dougmhd2006 Жыл бұрын
The most frustrating thing about studying history? Watching others forget or ignore history and screwing things up beyond all recognition by repeating the mistakes of the past. Over and over again. I look forward to upcoming sports-ball history vids. Keep up the excellent work.
@jessepaiz6356
@jessepaiz6356 Жыл бұрын
You should do the Eli for Rivers trade, because of how bizarrely it played it for both teams. The Chargers got the better qb, an elite LB, and a 3 year starting olineman, and would have probably been better off not making the trade. In hindsight the move was to reach on Fitgerald. The trade is the definitive sign that the Chargers are cursed.
@kurtpunchesthings2411
@kurtpunchesthings2411 Жыл бұрын
i mean that season they had the Number 1 Offense Number 1 Defense but their Special Teams was so Historically bad to the point that somehow they still missed the post season they truly are cursed Jesse
@dipribriggs2920
@dipribriggs2920 Жыл бұрын
Ya I agree you put Phillip rivers on those giants team they going off. With that defense etc.
@aceassn716
@aceassn716 Жыл бұрын
@Kurt Punches Things Wanna say that was the 2010 season for the Chargers
@iamhungey12345
@iamhungey12345 Жыл бұрын
@@dipribriggs2920 Not really, the Chargers had more talents than the Giants during those times.
@EspiIsHere
@EspiIsHere Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see The Trade episode about Eli Manning, that whole situation was a mess
@lostinthegrave7462
@lostinthegrave7462 Жыл бұрын
That'd be a good one. Maybe a rare example where it worked out for all teams involved.
@baxatakbaxatak2014
@baxatakbaxatak2014 Жыл бұрын
How the hell did it work out for the Chargers? Zero rings to show for it!
@eastmidwest11700
@eastmidwest11700 Жыл бұрын
Yes! He has to
@iamhungey12345
@iamhungey12345 Жыл бұрын
I remember the expectations and the hate he got at the same time. How the Giants had to make the most of their few remaining picks in the following year should be mentioned as well, it doesn't look like they'd have a good draft at first. I had fun looking up on some initial draft grades because of this, lol.
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
Then do a double with John Elway
@Chimidway88
@Chimidway88 Жыл бұрын
Please make this a series Tree!!! These videos are amazing!!!! Keep up the great work! 😀
@KatarHero72
@KatarHero72 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for your review of the 2018 draft tree! Always a highlight when i see that content!
@thegreatestever11
@thegreatestever11 Жыл бұрын
I'll always remember McNabb getting booed by a group of fans who were there to boo whoever the Eagles took 2nd if it wasn't Ricky because a local sports radio guy made a big stink about it and encouraged them to do so. The fact that McNabb would be accused of having a persecution complex whenever he referenced this incident offhand was ridiculous, but I can't say it surprised me.
@saj8
@saj8 Жыл бұрын
That's the type of disrespect that Donovan gets on a daily basis.
@satiricalzero
@satiricalzero Жыл бұрын
Those idiots on WIP are never happy. I'm glad Angelo finally retired, that dude was a cancer.
@mtosc9845
@mtosc9845 Жыл бұрын
I’m loving this “The Trade” series. Keep them coming.
@joelnelson4770
@joelnelson4770 Жыл бұрын
I hope that this becomes a regular series! I think a great idea for a potential future episode would be the Pirates trading with the Rays for Chris Archer in exchange for Glasnow, Meadows and Baz
@dfp_01
@dfp_01 Жыл бұрын
The other one for the Bucs is Gerrit Cole
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
IF either wins a World Series, definitely
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
​@@dfp_01oh, that one is brilliant
@ethantinklenberg6607
@ethantinklenberg6607 Жыл бұрын
The entire 1999 draft?????? Cincy why did you turn this down my lord
@roshango125ab
@roshango125ab Жыл бұрын
I know Tree doesn't do many basketball videos but the Peirce Garrett to the Nets trade was made for this series
@UrinatingTree
@UrinatingTree Жыл бұрын
I mentioned that deal in passing in the Nets vid I did a while ago, but good lord was that a bad one.
@carlosux
@carlosux Жыл бұрын
dude i remember this being one of the first times that i payed attention to the off season. all of this is a nostalgia bomb. i remember that heisman season. damn love these throwbacks. great job tree
@Maggot-ml3vz
@Maggot-ml3vz Жыл бұрын
I think it’s worse we didn’t build a dynasty off that Ricky Williams trade. Thanks Dan.
@neugey
@neugey Жыл бұрын
My irrational loyalty to this channel has paid off in getting new content regarding my Saints!
@nightmare348
@nightmare348 Жыл бұрын
I'd say Washington won solely because they used some of the picks to trade up with Chicago to get Champ Bailey, a HoF Cornerback. Other than that, not much really happened on either side with this trade.
@ReeceHope90
@ReeceHope90 Жыл бұрын
Legit, this needs to be made into a series. You have such a mastery with knowledge and that dry humour. I feel it would be a big hit for your channel
@johnliberty3647
@johnliberty3647 Жыл бұрын
Redskins got Bailey and Arrington, and Jansen was not a bad selection either who was dominate before that foot injury. Snyder chased away Bailey and Arrington was a great talent that did not fit in Greg Williams defense years later. But it was an overall positive deal for the Redskins.
@BadMovieRealm
@BadMovieRealm Жыл бұрын
It's been almost 25 years and as a Bengals fan, I'm still salty that Mike Brown turned down that pile of pics when the Bengals desparately needed help at damn near every position (outside of running back, ironically. Corey DIllon was the only thing worth watching on those teams for several years) to draft Akili Smith. AKILI...F'N...SMITH!? For those who aren't fully aware, here's Aklii's career stats: 3 Wins 14, Losses, 5 TDS, 13 INTS, 2212 yds. Take it from someone who suffered through every single game, he was even worse than those stats would indicate. The poor guy looked absolutely lost without a clue out there. You know it's bad when you're a fan thinking, "Please, for the love of football, put Scott Mitchell in the game!" The only high point I can remember was a comeback win (in which he threw 2 of his 5 career TDs, and threw for 10% of his career total passing yards) against fellow rookie Tim Couch and the Browns. And honestly, Corey DIllon won that game with 168 rushing yards, but to Akili's credit, he didn't screw it up and did throw the winning TD in the final seconds. In the end, that's what they turned down all those picks for. A one-point win against Tim Couch and the expansion Browns...a quarter of a century later and it still hurts my head.
@Ravens_Den
@Ravens_Den Жыл бұрын
Agreed on that, still boggles my mind after all these years and I became a fan when Carson came here afterwards.
@rjhaney2614
@rjhaney2614 Жыл бұрын
If you're gonna make this into a series (I would be all for it) maybe the Doug Gilmour trade would be a good direction to go next.
@Ibelikemj
@Ibelikemj Жыл бұрын
Ron Francis to Pittsburgh would be a good one too, that trade killed the Whalers
@musyarofah1
@musyarofah1 Жыл бұрын
Or the Eric Lindros trade
@rjhaney2614
@rjhaney2614 Жыл бұрын
@@musyarofah1 Dangle is gonna have a monopoly on that one for a while though.
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
​@@Ibelikemjto think he then became a GM
@michaelhession2105
@michaelhession2105 Жыл бұрын
Here's an idea Tree: The Trade: Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Jason Terry to the Nets
@daveatkins3796
@daveatkins3796 Жыл бұрын
Off topic, I was at the game when the Saints won their very first playoff game in 2000. They were up 31-7, and the Rams sidelines looked like they’d given up. But I said, fasten your seat belts, this is far from over and in a blink of an eye, they were only up by 3. Then Az-Zahir Hakim muffed the punt. I felt bad for him and I wish it didn’t come down to that, but the feeling in that stadium was electric. Same goes for the entire city. It was incredible.
@NWOWCW4Life1
@NWOWCW4Life1 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this will be a new series but I’m loving it either way
@roshango125ab
@roshango125ab Жыл бұрын
The D-Hop trade would be a good one, not just for the bad trade but the mutiny that followed in the Texans locker room
@king_rich0088
@king_rich0088 6 ай бұрын
That ederian james selection ended up becoming absolutely perfection for the colts. A duel threat RB who can run and catch passes
@uranium54321
@uranium54321 Жыл бұрын
Waiting a couple years for the eventual video like this you make on the Tanner Jeannot trade to the Lightning lmao
@frankgonzalez7432
@frankgonzalez7432 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully we might see Hockey or other Sports? Kinda want to know more about the Brendan Shannahan trades when he was a player.
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Жыл бұрын
If the expansion Browns had made this trade, and asked for everything Washington did and then some, then Ricky Williams could have been the last running back taken first overall instead of Ki-Jana Carter. This may have been the last time a running back could have genuinely gone first, and this may have been a good trade for the expansion Browns instead of just taking Tim Couch. Maybe they could have built a line for a quarterback in a future draft (and there were a couple good quarterbacks in the early 2000’s drafts).
@notoriouscam69
@notoriouscam69 Жыл бұрын
I would love if you did this in the NBA especially with the Dwight Howard trade
@henok8191
@henok8191 Жыл бұрын
As an Orlando Magic fan, please no
@franzraber273
@franzraber273 Жыл бұрын
New Orleans was the picture of ineptitude for years on end. Payton and Brees pulled them out of the abyss and for that I'm grateful. When the Saints won the Super Bowl, the NFL dream of parity had been achieved.
@jok3r906
@jok3r906 Жыл бұрын
Looking back some of the insane trades from NFL history... More please 🥺
@gigaj2368
@gigaj2368 Жыл бұрын
This is a pretty good series that could work for the other leagues as well. Would love to see a future vid on the Miguel Cabrera trade, or even the trade of Chris Paul to the Lakers that got killed by the Commish
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 Жыл бұрын
Also, the Lakers’ trade for Pau Gasol. In terms of where both teams got equal value in a major trade…what about the Phil Esposito-Brad Park trade?
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
Or do the one that send him to the other LA team
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
​@@AEMoreira81involving his brother?
@moopert86
@moopert86 Жыл бұрын
Still amazed Cincy passed on the king's ransom offered by the Saints. Granted the team would have completely pissed away those picks. But passing on 3 first round picks to draft Akili Smith? Truly the low point of Mike Brown's running the team.
@MasterDrawer101
@MasterDrawer101 Жыл бұрын
Ricky Williams was a beast. What was his rushing avg? 5.8 yards per carry. Crazy. He just had personality difficulties.
@PADRII
@PADRII Жыл бұрын
RGIII trade needs to be next. Same as this one: no one won that trade.
@SuperSaiyanGuyver
@SuperSaiyanGuyver Жыл бұрын
This whole draft just kicks off my inner historian's "What if" sense. Those drafts could've built a solid team around Couch or even Smith, the Colts could've swindled Ditka and still gotten Edge, then been even more overpowered, the list goes on...
@KillerKlown318
@KillerKlown318 Жыл бұрын
I remember that trade. There were people coming to speak at my high school and one of them tried to hype us up about Ricky Williams. That was the first time I ever predicted The Saints to go to the Super Bowl.
@xeldronx
@xeldronx Жыл бұрын
As a Saints fan, I remember that day, I was so mad at Ditka. I was hoping he'd have quit just like Mora did.
@hornetguy9063
@hornetguy9063 Жыл бұрын
1999 was a different time. A time when general managers thought it would be a good idea to trade an entire draft, as well as a 1st and 3rd the next season, to go from 12 to 5 in order to select a running back. Good times. I’m sure New Orleans would’ve had no use for LaVar Arrington.
@chrisuncleahmad
@chrisuncleahmad Жыл бұрын
As bad as the Saints offenses were under Ditka in 1997/1998, it's honestly a miracle they managed to win 6 games twice.
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
Remember that the Bears offense wasn't much better, but they had a generational defense, NOLA didn't have it yet
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Жыл бұрын
@@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Aside from 85 when they were actually second in the league, that's pretty accurate.
@PhoenixLance13
@PhoenixLance13 Жыл бұрын
The only good thing the Ditka years in NO brought us was that one wacky weekend where the Panthers/Saints and Packers/Cardinals engaged in the most insane 4 hours of football ever to determine the point differential tiebreaker for the NFC playoffs. Ditka was going for 2 and demanding onside kicks down 30+ points just to send Carolina home lol.
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 Жыл бұрын
To be Fair. Ricky did have a Better Career than everybody that got drafted with those Picks COMBINED. LaVar Arrington was an Absolute Beast, but got injured if he even looked at the Field Wrong. Desmond Clark is the next most successful. The problem is that the Saints bungled keeping him, and Ricky couldn't stop smoking Weed. I don't consider Champ Bailey part of this trade. He wasn't picked with one of the Saints Picks. That was a Bears Pick the Redskins got. Almost all the Saints Picks turned out Worthless outside of Arrington and Clark. Even got the Bust Cade McNown.
@mountaineernews2
@mountaineernews2 Жыл бұрын
Honestly was Mike Ditka good at all in New Orleans I mean he was literally just waving his cigar around still acting like he’s the Super Bowl champion but as a Steelers fan that’s what Mike Tomlin does too
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Жыл бұрын
Tomlin’s ok, but a bit overrated by those who think of him as a consensus Hall of Famer or something like that. Fun fact about the Steelers: You may have heard that they have three head coaches since 1969, well technically since 1946 they’ve had fewer head coaches (10) than the expansion Browns, and that was with one vacancy caused by the coaches death.
@mountaineernews2
@mountaineernews2 Жыл бұрын
@@fortynights1513 I actually know that because I’ve been so much fun since they want in. This really shows how bad the expansion Browns are and if you ask a diehard Browns fan they say that the real Browns are in Baltimore talk about embarrassing
@DefendYoungstown
@DefendYoungstown Жыл бұрын
🎶SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY🎶 I'm surprised there's a whole video centered around Ricky and that music drop wasn't in it once.
@thepolarphantasm2319
@thepolarphantasm2319 Жыл бұрын
As a saints fan, I'd like to throw a shout-out to rookie Ricky Williams, who was legit shell shocked by going from being a stoner in college to face of an NFL franchise being pumped full of anti depressants because Mike ditka was insane
@TheDragonsPit
@TheDragonsPit Жыл бұрын
Yeah something this video doesn't highlight enough is how Ricky was just mishandled entirely by not just Ditka but the entire Saints Org and even the NFL entirely resulting in his career being absolutely ruined despite finding his onfield stride with Miami.
@Tyrunner0097
@Tyrunner0097 7 ай бұрын
Give Indy credit too for not jumping ahead of themselves and staying with Ed James as their RB of choice. They needed a better downfield pass-catching RB for their offense with Peyton, and James fit it to a T.
@Jedibob5
@Jedibob5 Жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that not only did New Orleans trade their entire draft and then some for a single player, they also had not just one, but *two* teams TURN THEM DOWN first. Like, I get that draft strategies and analytics might not have been as well-developed at the time, but Dallas had just won THREE Super Bowls earlier in the decade on the back of the Herschel Walker trade. I seriously cannot fathom what was running through the minds of Cincy's and Indy's GMs when they declined the Saints' offer. Did they think it was some kind of trick? Were they trying to goad the Saints into offering even more? Or did they genuinely believe that Akili Smith and Edgerrin James were each more valuable than an entire draft class? For Indy it's especially mind-boggling - everyone on the planet knew the Saints wanted Williams, so if the Colts had wanted Edgerrin that badly, why not just use a portion of the picks they would've got to move back up and get him anyway?
@Kid-Pink_88.
@Kid-Pink_88. Жыл бұрын
Hmm I wonder if Tree will a "Trade" video about 'The Great One' Wayne Gretzky.
@jlh4jc
@jlh4jc Жыл бұрын
Ricky was actually a fullback in his Freshman and Sophomore years. He blocked for Priest Holmes, who ended up with a solid career in Baltimore and KC. If Ricky had ended up in Indy getting handoffs from Manning, his career might have been better.
@Tyrunner0097
@Tyrunner0097 Ай бұрын
Ricky wasn't a fit for Indy's offense at the time. They needed more of a pass catcher out of the backfield, and Ricky wasn't made for that.
@moopert86
@moopert86 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine if the Colts had said to hell with Edgerrin and taken all those picks. James was great, but those extra picks may have actually put a defense around Manning to win more than 1 title in Indy.
@ColtsPacers1
@ColtsPacers1 Жыл бұрын
For all we know they may still have gotten Edge
@Shooopdawooooop
@Shooopdawooooop Жыл бұрын
I met Mike Ditka in HS, I’m from Louisiana and he apologized to all of us for this move. That’s how bad this trade was.
@bigk8210
@bigk8210 5 ай бұрын
Ditka won Suoer Bowl VI as a tight end with the Cowboys (scoring a TD [which Walter Payton did not get to...]), Super Bowl XII as the special teams coach with the Cowboys and Super Bowl XX as head coach of the Bears... All in New Orleans. No wonder he loved that city so much and wanted to come back! Fourth time was the bottom of despair...
@coreylineberry8557
@coreylineberry8557 Жыл бұрын
To think Carolina had the 5th overall pick and traded it to Washington for Sean Gilbert... Carolina could have built something incredible with it.
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
For the record, the first overall pick in 2000 was ALSO with the Browns
@bersl2
@bersl2 Жыл бұрын
The despair from hiring Ditka is what caused my father to drop the day-one season tickets he inherited from my grandfather. He could handle bad Saints football, but clownshow football was just too much of an ask.
@aaronman4772
@aaronman4772 Жыл бұрын
A fun chaos theory about this trade Most of the attention is on the two teams that were involved, but the Bengals turned down the huge haul of picks to draft Akili Smith. If they take the deal, they likely take Cade McNown. Now McNown still sucks, but after the picks shake out Bengals would have had an extra late first round pick in 2001, which means Bengals could have in that draft taken Drew Brees late in the first, since they were talking with him already, just didn't draft him at 4 with their original pick. But with a pick later in the draft but before the Chargers 2nd rounder, they likely take him. And if Brees ends up a Bengal, then there's a huge shakeup in the 2003 Draft. Bengals obviously wouldn't be at 1, Lions and Texans both drafted a first round QB in 2002 so they'd probably not take a QB, Jets had Chad Pennington so not likely QB (and mostly I want to extend the chaos to the most interesting point) So Carson Palmer likely goes to the first drafting QB needy team... The Cowboys Cowboys didn't draft a QB that year, their starter was a bad Quincy Carter, so they'd probably be willing to take Palmer. But the Cowboys DID pick up a QB that year. Some little known guy out of a small school named Antonio Ramiro Romo as a UDFA. So Romo likely ends up at a different team who pursued him as a UDFA, and goes to the team he said would have been the best chance for him to make a roster, the Broncos. Broncos that year had picked up Jake Plummer to be their starting QB who was good but got injured during the 2003 season, leading to them having to start Jarious Jackson, Steve Beuerlein, and Danny Kannell at different points due to injuries and ineffective play. While it's unlikely Romo would start in 2003, it's not impossible he could beat out at least Jackson to start one game, and then spend 04 and 05 as the backup to Plummer. Now it's still likely with Plummer declining that Broncos draft Jay Cutler in 2006 like they did IRL, but in the 2006 offseason IRL, Sean Payton (who had been OC for the Cowboys) tried to trade for Tony Romo for a third rounder to be the starting Saints QB. This may not happen in this scenario since Payton wouldn't have formed the bond with Romo like he did in Dallas, but assuming it did happen, the Broncos likely take the deal since they’d be planning for their heir apparent plan in Cutler. (Cowboys wanted at least a 2nd round pick for the deal to work which is why it was turned down). And at this point I think it's a good stopping point, where we have: - Bengals starting QB Drew Brees - Cowboys starting QB Carson Palmer - Broncos starting QB Jake Plummer into Jay Cutler - Saints Starting QB Tony Romo
@DaGenius99
@DaGenius99 Жыл бұрын
The Deadskins roast at the end to top off another quality video from UrinatingTree 😂🤟🏽.
@jman2050
@jman2050 Жыл бұрын
I’m actually impressed at the Colts taking Edge instead of Williams. Not that Williams couldn’t have been amazing with Peyton Manning but they saw someone else who would be a perfect fit for what they were building around Peyton and went for the ‘bigger picture’ play. And they were rewarded for it, what-ifs with Ricky aside.
@Tyrunner0097
@Tyrunner0097 7 ай бұрын
The pick for James was genius. He was multi-talented like Faulk, but a much better downfield pass catcher. He was a perfect fit next to Peyton.
@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly Жыл бұрын
The RG3 trade needs to be revisited-it too involved Washington and Dan Snyder.
@MasonCookMrFamous
@MasonCookMrFamous Жыл бұрын
I look forward to the inevitable episode on the RGIII trade. A couple of good ones to also consider for a series such as this are Forsberg for Erat and the Wall for Westbrook trades (the later is especially fascinating considering the absolute chaos it caused in the following years).
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
And the GM that did the former just won a Cup, what is logic?
@Metfan722
@Metfan722 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the RG3 trade as another one of these.
@VladusYinzer
@VladusYinzer Жыл бұрын
Awesome series, one trade that'd be cool to look into is John Hadl to the Packers. They gave up 2 first, 2 seconds, and a third for a 34 year old QB who was off the team after a year and a half.
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Жыл бұрын
Yep. If I’m not mistaken the Rams got Jackie Slater with one of those picks. Hadl had a very good 1973 (first team all pro and one of the highest passer ratings in the game that year), but unfortunately didn’t do too much after that.
@ljessecusterl
@ljessecusterl Жыл бұрын
As a Saints fan since the late '80s, all I have to say is that trade was *painful* to watch unfold.
@andrejg4136
@andrejg4136 Жыл бұрын
Yeah like even as a kid that didn't make sense. "Why would you trade the whole draft for one dude?"
@JackCallSports
@JackCallSports Жыл бұрын
Mike Ditka should’ve never took the Saitns HC job
@Letterman0412
@Letterman0412 Жыл бұрын
Ricky’s numbers are just outside Hall of Fame territory in my opinion, pretty similar to Edgerrin James’ numbers, and that’s after missing multiple seasons of his prime due to the NFL’s hardline policy against marijuana. He’d easily be in the Hall of Fame if those seasons hadn’t been taken away from him. That said, there’s something special about Ricky barely playing over a 4 year stretch and coming back and barely missing a step. Even his last year at 34 as a backup on the Ravens he was still very effective. He probably could have played a few more years. He’s easily the most talented RB I’ve ever watch suit up for the Dolphins and is probably the biggest reason I fell in love with the game.
@michaelhession2105
@michaelhession2105 Жыл бұрын
I will say the Colts were wise to take Edgerin James. The reasoning was that he was an excellent fit for the scheme that they had assembled. And Bill Pollian was right. Although I still can't believe that the Bungles didn't take the haul from the Saints. THATS EMBARRASING!
@Ravens_Den
@Ravens_Den Жыл бұрын
Yep. Having a potential dynasty, only to get Achilles Smith. Mike Brown’s “genius” in a nutshell.
@michaelhession2105
@michaelhession2105 Жыл бұрын
@@Ravens_Den I may be a fan of a rival of the Bungles, but all I can say is this, THEY BETTER NOT RUIN JOE BURROW! He's the best QB they've had since probably Ken Anderson if we're basing this just on organizational impact.
@fionandunne248
@fionandunne248 Жыл бұрын
As an Australian, loving these 'great' historical trades
@NOT_Brian
@NOT_Brian Жыл бұрын
Great series so far Tree! I can't believe some of these trades you highlighted.. has there ever been a huge trade like this or the walker trade that actually worked out?
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 Жыл бұрын
I'm always kinda sad my Bengals didn't jump at the Saints' offer. But then again, we were still a complete dumpster fire for another 5 years and all those picks wouldn't have amounted to much under Bruce Coslett and Mike Brown anyway.
@snow_blind_08
@snow_blind_08 Жыл бұрын
Love this new series. I would like to see ones that were less lopsided too. Or At least ones that were win-win.
@clipobserver
@clipobserver Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if the Colts accepted that trade? They could have had another Super Bowl title or two. Or the Colts drafting Ricky Williams themselves? There would have been no near the pressure for Ricky like in New Orleans because most of the pressure would have been on Peyton.
@ntgr87
@ntgr87 Жыл бұрын
just wanna say, Tagliabue announced the 4th pick all wrong. You know Rozelle would've gone "...running back" [8 second pause] "Edgerrin James..."
@atrholiday2889
@atrholiday2889 Жыл бұрын
WOW! I never knew the Bengals turned down that insane haul to ensure they’d get Akili Smith 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@youreverydayhellknight4257
@youreverydayhellknight4257 Жыл бұрын
As a Saints fan, I’ve learned better than to be optimistic about our seasons.
@crowtservo
@crowtservo Жыл бұрын
That same year, the Rams traded a 2nd and 5th round pick to the Colts for Marshall Faulk. Faulk was demanding a new extension and the Colts were interested in Edgerrin James. James rushed for 1500+ yards and helped turned the Colts from a 3-13 team in 1998 to a 13-3 playoff team in 1999. The Rams with the help of Marshall Faulk and his 1300 yards rushing were able to turn it around too going from 4-12 to 13-3 and won the Super Bowl. Meanwhile the Saints got the biggest name in this draft and went from going 6-10 to 3-13. I was 19 in 1999 and I was shocked at how far Ricky Williams fell in that draft but by seasons end I had learned that no matter how big of a name a guy is and no matter how much everyone loves a player, there’s no guarantee that he will do anything big in the NFL or will turn around a team by himself. It’s what made me laugh at Skip Bayless demanding that Johnny Manziel go first overall in 2014. Some people never learn that big names in college might not mean shit in the NFL.
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Жыл бұрын
And Jerry himself almost drafted Manziel, but the FO stopped him, so the Browns Browned again
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