Yeh drug dealers who are adults and entirely responsible for their own actions. The kids were punished and work was done to rehabilitate them and give them a better life to help normalise the warped mindset caused to them by the extreme neglect and abuse they suffered. They didn’t deserve any longer.

@@countryboy3589 you can't rehabilitate anything that does what they did. At least one is a pedophile. 10 year olds know what they are up to. You probably think just because they are white,they deserve a chance at rehabilitation. I bet you believe in rehabilitating child rapers too,huh?

hello world child rapers and the mind set of two ten years are two different category’s to rehabilitate

Yeah, I saw one thing of a drug dealer got 19 years of prison and a child rapist got 9. 😐😐

@@countryboy3589 fucking weirdo

Nayeons foot probably because you aren’t a psychopath

Accidentally ran into my older brother with a shopping trolley when I was ten. He didn’t cry, but I did because I felt horrible. At the age of 10 we should know the difference between right and wrong.

@@Jess-wk5oh We know the difference but we still can be vicious, especially when young. My brother tried throwing the bed over me, and I beat his ass, he stabbed me with a knitting needle right through my arm and I put his head through the door. Later I put him through my others glass table, lucky for me the bigass shards never pierced his neck or a vital artery. In my defence, there was an incident with a bread knife. This was all before we I went to secondary school, that was at 11.

Jame Gumb I know, but surely you knew what you did was wrong right? They say that one of the boys showed no remorse until he saw the other one crying and so he then started crying too

Lauren Watts I’m looking at this comment section, and y’all are scaredy-cats. Next thing you tell me is that you never stole from the book fair 🤠

They where ten years old. As much as im against protecting killers ect, one thing you cannot argue with is their thinking. How horrible is it that ten year old boys did this? Why did they even know what to do? you know what i mean? but also, none of the children discussed had their rights protected in this case. Jamie: A Right to Life. The Killers: The right to be tried in an adolescent court, for crimes committed as adolescents. Ethically, screw the killers, they killed a 2 YEAR OLD, but legally, they have the same rights to a fair trial, in the correct court, as you and i do.

Murdered, actually I think.

@@p1gst3p79 Pretty much. He used those words to hammer home how gruesome the crime was, to really show he was against the sympathy others had for the two boys

the way that the body was when they found it, i understand *why* theyd have trauma from it..

Is a seek village then, without education

That's so incredibly sad. That would really affect anyone, let alone a small child coming across something like that. He didn't stand a chance. I really hope that he gets the therapy and help that he needs to truly heal from it (edit: just read the above comment about how 3/4 of the boys' lives turned out; my comment applies to them all)

he commited suicide a few days ago

@@vikireedus608who did?

Sakai Mefu one of them has and the mother of the child does not know

Marion James well I hope that he loves them

I think one of them is married and has settled down and may possibly have a child however the mother would be unaware as the two boys were given anoninimity so a whole new name and backstory etc... However, one of them I belileve no longer deserves his anoninimity as he has been caught and imprisoned a few times for posession of child pornography - but the courts won't allow it. I can't remember how old I first heard of the case but have since had to study it when I did Forensic Science in college and it never gets any easier. It changed how old you had to be to be tried as an adult in court, I believe. (not 100% sure if that's correct just going off of memory). But I do agree, ten is more than old enough to know right from wrong. At the age of 5 max, I knew what was right and what was wrong and knew that doing something wrong would have consequences.

They should go to prison for life no matter how old and the first part of your comment is so funny

@@broganmoorhouse7158 Thompson is gay I think and has been in a relationship since the mid 2000s. He has never re-offended and made use of his time in prison to gain qualifications. Venables has since returned to prison due to illicit images of children and a manual on how to have sex with little girls.

Katiecakes L the police were confused people had to be 12 to be arrested but they were 10 they treated them differently and were uncertain how people would react if they punished them to severely but i agree they should have punished them more

It seems to me like the punishment of their every day lives leading up to the murder is what caused them to behave the way they did so I’m genuinely confused as to why people think even more punishment would do anything to reshape them into better people. They did something terribly unspeakable, yes, obviously, but that doesn’t mean they weren’t also victims themselves. I’d imagine that they felt they were being punished just for existing every single day of their lives and further punishment would do nothing but make them worse. I can understand why people think locking them away and tossing the key would be a solution for people who are fearful of potentially being effected by any future actions, but in my opinion everyone who is capable of rehabilitation should be given the opportunity for recovery. What I can’t understand is how people can be aware of how badly they had both suffered prior to this act, which was clearly a result of how deeply broken they were and as devastating as it is that James and his family has to suffer so much as a result, but ultimately that will never change the fact that both boys were severely neglected and had slipped through the cracks of society which left them in a position to inflict such harm in the first place. This is a situation where it’s clear why they may have thought what they did was reasonable up until the part they realized that it wasn’t and they thought they’d be in even more trouble if they didn’t dispose of the body, which is a result of their age and lack of awareness. They weren’t blatant monsters as can be easily suggested for many other cases; they were disturbed and prone to hostile situations based on their upbringing and all the violence they’ve witnessed and had inflicted upon them. I want to reiterate that none of this excuses what they did by any means, but I still believe it needs to be taken into account and I can’t help but suggest it’s possible that what they physically did to James is what those two boys were internally experiencing emotionally. The justice system definitely failed these boys, only it wasn’t any decisions after the murder and trial that facilitated the reason for this failure, instead it was the fact they were left in a situation that’s unfit and unsafe for a child, allowing them to experience such injustice in their daily lives, and culminated in the mental deterioration that provoked them to act out on their frustrations by taking that anger out on poor, innocent, sweet James. May he Rest In Peace. I hope those boys (men) are able to continue getting the appropriate help they so clearly need, otherwise, yes, there is always the likelihood that they could continue to pursue immoral choices as an outlet. The harsher they’re punished can never bring James back and change what happened, but it’s still an opportunity for them to have been removed from the destructive lives they were forced into as children and finally allow them a chance to grow up and do something positive with their lives. It may be too late to have helped them before they caused harm, but because the privilege of having a healthy childhood had been robbed from them so early in life at no fault of their own, it’s not too late to restore their right to an environment that allows them to grow into the best people they can be despite the circumstances, which maybe will someday bring more good to this world if they’re able to be a positive advocate for other children who are currently experiencing such conditions right now as I write this, and any other future children forced to try their best to thrive in similarly unjust circumstances.

*Please ignore any grammatical mistakes and typos: I spent way too much time writing this and would rather not put further effort into going back and fixing them. I apologize for my laziness

this case literally makes me physically ill. i have brothers that age and it just makes me sick. this poor poor boy.

@@imbuffysummers i have to agree with you, especially for Thompson. He would obviously become a sociopath.

In her book she said that when she saw that it was kids who abducted the baby she had hope that he would be fine, I can't imagine how much pain she must have felt when they found him, it's such a heartbeaking story :(

@@lizzy4827 in the video there’s a clip of the mom saying when she heard it was two kids that took him, she had hope like u said, and said she hoped that they just wanted a little brother of their own or something and were hiding him in a shed, “feeding him sweets” i’m literally crying ugh i wish the world was a better place

Did you just say you wouldn't wish PTSD on anyone then immediately wish PTSD on someone?

@@Dr-Pip yeah because the boys are the exception.

@@Dr-Pip because they were Murderers that weren’t correctly punished and not made to understand their crimes and were then practically coddled and rewarded for the heinous crimes they committed. That’s why dingus?

@@Dr-Pip some people deserve the worst wished upon them, up to those who’ve suffered whatever fate to wish it. In their mind those who’ve tortured a baby deserve the PTSD they created for themselves

@@Dr-Pip there’s a difference between PTSD created by someone and PTSD you inflict on yourself. They deserve is whereas the person who commented doesn’t

Phoebe L makes you wish the baby would’ve just stayed down, maybe they would’ve stopped... my heart hurts for this baby and every baby/child who has had their life taken way too early

He was very brave

Phoebe Livingstone that was the bit that made me stop what I was doing... unbelievable

Rip 🥺

I made it 2.2k likes and yes it’s acc sad ;c

Megan Smith it depends on the age of the killers and because there so young they can’t be in for that long

@@Scarlett-rp8ud Sure they can, if you murder anyone, especially a child, you can be in there for life. Look at Eric Smith, he killed a four year old. Yeah, he was a bit older than these two boys, but he still will never be released and that's how it's done in America. We don't play when it comes to child murderers, England wants to just hid and forgot this baby, try to fix people that don't deserve it. The parents of the murdered child should have been able to decide if these sickos got out. These poor are lucky they are from prissy little England, that treatment wouldn't slide in America and for good reason. Yeah, I do believe people should get the chance a rehabilitation, but not murderers, rapists, child molesters, or/and child murderers. These boys def didn't deserve new identities and if it is true about Robert having a wife or family, they are sickos and just as evil as him.

Mrs.Bubbles lal Megan Smith I agree they should’ve but life in the uk can mean up to 15 years then parole, given the fact that these people were seen as minors they would’ve never gotten life as such, if they had been adults as such they could’ve been tried for life but the max life that’s been given is 40 years with parole so either this poor little boy will never get justice

@@molly1111 Thats why they need to have the death penalty and make life, actually mean life with no possibility of parole. That have that here in America. Y'all just need to start shipping people like these sickos over here, we will take care of them for you

Mrs.bubbles Prissy little England is better then stupid fucking America

I'm not sure if you're uk based or not, but every so often a photo is released in the press over here of one or both of them in their "new lives". They are disputed, but the likeness is uncanny. I'm not for vigilanties. There has already been, like Eleanor said, people being witch hunted. But I think people have a right to know if they're in their town. They didn't "just" take jamie. What they did, makes Venebles and Thompson devils.

@@charlottewilliams574 Vigilantism is the big issue for me, especially since vigilantes usually get the wrong man anyway.

@@charlottewilliams574 okay but there's no way to release their identities AND prevent vigilantism, you get that right? And from a legal perspective protecting the identities of adults who committed crimes as kids is important and should be upheld. I understand people's anger, but there is no way to a. Release their identities without risking vigilantism and b. Release their identities without undermining the ability of adults to move on from crimes committed in childhood. Things are complicated man

@@NoCommonSense9 i get that in the case of the other boy now man but venebles was found with so much cp including children being sodomized so for his case is it really crimes committed in childhood? or repeated behavior from one of them carrying on into adulthood and being protected by the country

@@charlottewilliams574 Vigilantism is rarely good, you're right on that (although sometimes, when they get the right people, it can be satisfying, in a twisted way). I would feel bad for someone getting attacked if they were just mistaken for being one of them. On the flip side, if I came across them, or one of them, and there was no doubt it is him, God forgive me for what goes down, because it will be a bloodbath. People need to be aware, and if some vigilante attacked me in a case of istaken identity, I think I could forgive them, as they were emotionally driven and I get that. So considering that scenario, I am for the revealing of their identities. Some criminals should get new ones, but they don't deserve that protection, they stooped too low.

and they still sit there and say he's rehabilitated

He needs to stay in prison for life just for the child porn

Thompson is doing alright though, but Venables is just an absolute mess. Protecting him is just a waste of taxpayer money

I only have one question.... Why is there such a manual? I mean if something doesn't need a manual, it is this. No one needs to learn how to do that!!

​@@alexisyorke2918 It's really sickening.

He was 2. He was a baby

He was a baby he was 2 nearly 3.

They even called him a baby the killers if you watch the new doc

I mean... isn't a 2 year old a baby?

@@garethharding8035 new doc? What’s it called??

one is a drug dealer in jail rn

THANK YOU

Not Adam how do you know

@@Boopandfriends found it when I looked it up shouldn't be hard to find

@@Boopandfriends it's true, well known in Liverpool.

They were 10. They shouldn't be trialed as adults

@@karimtemri1664 It doesn't matter how old they were, look what they did? Do you think that baby cared how old they were? They torchoured that baby to death. If I was that baby's father I would have beheaded both of them, then the law could punish me..

@@karimtemri1664 If they commit a crime this serious, yes, they should be. Children aren't always as oblivious, stupid and innocent as people think. They knew exactly what they were doing, just like an adult would.

@@revortexed448 if you open this door then we must admit children can give consent because they know what they are doing. Do you know what I mean

@@karimtemri1664 At ten years old you can somewhat grasp what’s right and wrong.

I've never been able to bring myself to read it

When I read it years ago, I sobbed and wasn’t the same for weeks. I had dreams where I encountered the boys walking with James and I saved him, took him to the police and reunited him with his mom. Then wake up to find it was only a dream. I can’t imagine the mother’s pain and to know the killers were getting every advantage because of their crimes. It’s sick.

@Daisyxo no, that's where people are wrong. unfortunately, many don't feel that or are incapable. you're assuming they're neurologically and socially like you/others, but this case proves otherwise. maybe the one who was more of an accomplice, but I doubt it. when people ask "how can people like that sleep at night?" it's because they do not experience empathy or remorse. they do not have that reaction and so it's not a problem. it can be emulated for social interaction, but that response is not actually going on in their brain. and the fact that they were, as OP said, practically rewarded and safeguarded after committing such an awful crime would further allow for them to NOT harbor negative feelings towards their actions - in general and to a growing brain that could've been somewhat impacted by proper rehab and therapy if they weren't too far gone.

Robbert said he had a better up bringing in the unit than he ever did at home to the parol board its on google he was safeguarded his arse kissed both them a great life inside unlike before the killing both were rewarded not punished

I agree!

I disagree,personally,I think that since they were “rewarded”,they can be better people than be tortured like James,if they were tortured then it wouldn’t change them at all and makes them do it again.

they were neglected 10 y/o’s.

It’s disgusting. a broken system protecting little boys

maybe because they were 10 years old with a horrific childhood? why does no one even try to put themselves in the boys shoes? as for the crime itself I don't think they were fully aware of what they were doing

@Abby Thomas they were mentally ill ten year olds. if they grew up properly they would have never commited a crime, do you know how much influence parents have over their children's personalis and behaviour

Abby Thomas preach

diminie mental illness will NEVER excuse such a terrible crime. there is no justification for this. 🤦🏾‍♀️

There was a mouse living in our new house and I insisted he'd be removed humanely. We named him Barry. Baz for short. We eventually trapped him and released him back into the wild.

This case certainly made all our parents keep a tighter hold of us.. So sad 💔

Yes he would have been what pissed me off those boys were getting rewarded instead of real punishment!! Bastards who laughs in court room!!

@@dominicchester0328 same. Actually only just learned about this case and I can’t believe these kids who tortured and killed a baby are getting rewarded

@@hykeii2896 I get how you feel tbh who would go their with there children or even a kid after that happened

I JUST REALIZED THAT IM BEEN OVER THE RAILWAY WHERE HIS FUCKING BODY WAS FOUND

Maddison Wade they knew it was wrong, that’s why they didn’t want the police to find out

Maddison Wade 10 is old enough that you should be taught right or wrong.

Maddison Wade 10 is old enough that you know right or wrong

It is irrelevant if they knew right from wrong. They where 10 years old.

Exactly. They had planned this before with a different boy and they're saying that 8 years is enough. Kmt.

tell me about it. they deserve 2 get their asses kicked just the way they kicked his :( my brother & i r twins & this happened the year b4 we were born :(

T_T

Same why would i have a 10 year old killer and torturer in my house,i would have to kick him out even if there 10 or whatever

@Queen Volt sometimes it isn't the parents but it's the other children that they are influenced by, you really should watch ur children huh

@@griselgriselda2901 you can't take care of them when they're getting bullied at school that's teachers responsibility

I'm not even a parent lol I'm 13

Queen Volt this wasn’t the parents fault most likely. kids are most influenced by the people they are surrounded with in school. and bullying is a big problem that most kids won’t tell their parents about. also your friends affect you. so ya don’t blame the parents

He could’ve have found the cure for cancer but that would never happen because 2 cruel boys wanted to have fun, sacrificing a boy who has a bright future ahead of him.

I dont get how 10 year olds can do such things. When I was ten I hit my brother with a shopping trolly and bought him a ice cream. I wouldn't even be able to kill anyone whilst I'm older. These kids have been doing incredibly bad things for years but they continue to get new identities. These children think they could do whatever they wanted because of the lack of proper punishment. If you just put someone in jail for a little while even if the crime is awful they will do it again. The poor kids who found the bodies need therapy because of the horror of seeing a child's dismembered body. James was such a good little boy and had such a bright future, unfortunately these boys took that all away. The poor mother who lost her baby must be heartbroken. Losing a baby must be one of the most terrible feelings ever. The poor kids who found the body now are grown up and have physiological issues after being traumatized by seeing a poor toddlers body that was split in two. The two kids had PTSD because of the body and coped with drugs and they have been in prison several times.

@@rubim.9201 it discusts me that they got only 8 years in prison, AND still got to change their names after they killed a little boy , whatever childhood they had does NOT influence killing a little boy. they deserved death penalty , i agree with you.

@@allyssa1523 There are cures for cancer, it's the biggest scam making people believe other wise.

@@eifionphillips3004 ooh this seems interesting

No, it was lowered to 10 in 1963 in England and Wales, this case happened in 1993, 30 years later

Tiktok sent me

not to mention the fact that he was left on a traintrack to be cut in half..

And left him on the train tracks to later be run over and his body cut in two..omg..😭😭😵😵

Aidan Carmody the uk doesn’t have the death penalty, but I do agree that as he has been given many chances to reintegrate into normal life and has disregarded the law each time a life sentence should be enforced.

Which one was Jon? The one with a lot of sibling or the one with 2 siblings

•møønlight• I think he was the one with two siblings

Ciara Robertson ohh

I think he's had enough time to sort himself out and now needs the key throwing away.

ChloeLee Xo that just shows how flawed the system is.

Actually ridiculous. The justice system is an actual joke

The boys only got 8 years ??

Aimz_ 07 makes it worse really, doesn’t it ;/

@@Jess-wk5oh yea but I watched the full video as I was only half way through and their sentence was extended by two years

I hope those kids grew up okay, and lived decent lives

@@jeanmichellelaurent Unfortunately they didn't, they had PTSD which was never treated and they fell into drugs to cope with it and have been in trouble pretty much most of their life.

one of the children who found him commited suicide a few months back and a lot of them fell intro drugs

Sister Sarah why not?

Sister Sarah it’s disgusting. People should be able to avoid them. They can’t do that with new identities

imagine getting involved somehow with one of these men and never knowing that they did something like this

Olivia Roberts exactly

Isabelle Bowen they murdered a little boy, the last thing they deserve is a new identity

@@jackwatson3944 so you are on the monsters ' side. Speaks tons about you

Down Town are you serious you sound like your defending those MONSTERS

Down Town ok here’s a question do you feel any remorse for the child who lost his life in a horrible way? or do you feel pity for the kids who found him and will be traumatized and be affected for the rest of there life’s from it? Or do you wish that the mother will recover from that horrible day? Or will you just continue to insult people who talk about what horrible human beings those children are and how they deserve more punishment?

Down Town I agree they deserve more punishment but you are attacking someone for “making a comment to get likes” when in no point did any of are comments ask for likes and it was just people talking on the internet. The fact in your mind you automatically assume people are begging for likes is sad. You decide that what makes you happy is starting fights on the internet instead of agreeing on how horrible this is and letting people share there thoughts on a disgusting homicide, and I guess it’s your option to share to anyone that sees this that you feel no remorse for any of the people involved in this

Down Town it shows all you care about as a person is likes on the internet a false form to make somebody feel good

Kate Hollywood he would’ve been 29 in 2019

Math is off he would’ve been 29 this year. I know this because he would be 5 years older than me

*29 but ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Kate Hollywood tip fly high angel 👼

I have always been against the death penalty, but for these little scumbags I'd make an exception

@other wise except it didnt because one of them has been found in posession of child pornography and was incarcerated in austrailia i believe

@other wise you are disgusting

ik.

@other wise The baby had nothing to do with the abuse and parenting. You are defending the 2 ten year old boys over a baby that didn't even get to fully grow up.

Actually true. I was inpatient therapy, I got a shit education. I got handed an algebra book and paper and told figure it out not a damn tutor. I didn't have a computer or TV in my room. We had one TV between 20 other girls on the unit, and we got it once a week if that. The fully decorated room they got, I had a metal bed with a one inch padded mattress, a pillow that 100s had used before me, and a paper thin hospital blanket. We were allowed maybe 7 outfits. I've never physically hurt a single person in my life, let alone a child and seem to have had way less privileges then they had and opportunities to help me become a better, mentally healthy person.

there is no such thing as rehabilitation, especially in prison. We are led to believe that offenders ans prisoners receive psychological help and rehab when doing their service, but in reality its all a myth. Prisoners are tormented even more once they are locked up. By other prisoners and often by the officers too. Once they are released, they are literally let into the real world with nothing. No support, no tools for making a decent living, no purpose, no care. In many cases offenders re-offend because they WANT to be locked up again, because that is the only life they know. In an ideal world, all offenders would be rehabilitated and rewired, but sadly the funds and resources arent there

@@hallefranklin2646 To say there is "no such thing as rehabilitation" is not true. I agree that the funds and resources we want to have available for folks are often not there but that doesn't mean there is no help or support. There's certainly not nearly enough support available currently (especially in the US which is much more punishment focused than rehabilitation focused). You're right, in many ways society works against our positive intentions which just results in a revolving door of prison convictions because if nothing else prison does give you structure, regular meals, and a dry place to sleep.

the main issue i think is they didnt serve long enough . they murdered a 2 yr old , i personally think thats irredeamable , but then again they were 10 . its so conflicting . i think they shoukda served at least 15 - 20 years

well yes rehabilitation is very important but what part of video games, football games, getting posters of their favorite football teams, designer clothes, etc a part of rehabilitation?

Exactly, if they do the crime, that is the only true way that they will ever pay for it. Giving a new identity only gives them a new chance to murder.

Yeah but at the same time if their identities were exposed people would harass them all the time which they deserve. But they would just get so angry and do stupid shit again. It would have just been best if they just got to prison

@Ashlee Harvey are you sure? If they revealed their names that’d be illegal

@@strangeodd1552 it’s illegal but that doesn’t stop people

@@Olivia-tz8rl they still do like I believe one of them has been found with child pornography multiple times already and getting in trouble with the law

I agree 100%

they don't deserve just jail. they deserve to be locked in solitary confinement. it drives people insane, no touch, no talking to anyone, no contact. with nothing to do. nothing but to think of what horrific things they've done.

nah that's letting them off. like ngl, if you were to be killed you don't face what you did mentally. if i did that to Baby James, it would drive me insane to be locked up and have nothing but staring at a wall all day, until i died. that's what i think anyway because the guilt just sinks in but if you were killed by the government yeah, you don't eve face it properly because they let u off so much.

@@karmstrong6566 They still wouldn't feel empathy, they are psychopaths. You can lock them up as long as you like, they'll never feel geniune human remorse-- they simply are not capable of such a thing.

@@vhs_peep7384 Same thing I just said ^^ they don't feel empathy, doesn't matter what you do.

if my younger sibling ever did anything even half as bad as this I would never look at them again

They wouldn't even be a brother to me anymore. I'd have to be kept far away from them for fear of someone else murdering another child.

I wouldn't consider my brother as *my brother* any more I'd tell my mom to get him some therapy though, probobly wouldn't talk to him

For me it’s a switcheroo, my older brother was abusive (choking my little siblings (they were 3-6 years old at the time), kicking us, and slamming our heads onto walls (he even made dents)) He was, I think, 16. Maybe, I don’t remember. Ok so like, back on track here, it wouldn’t be a surprise if he killed a kid. I forgot to mention that he stopped ever since he was 19. I’m also going to be one of those comments that never replied back again so don’t expect me to respond, sorry

I’d rather my brother kill an adult over than a little baby. I could forgive him for the adult. But never for murdering a baby, because they are helpless and can’t do much to defend themselves.

I do not know how much more of this video I can watch, but most people reading this would do almost anything to avoid harming a child. I am the type of person if I see a child getting hurt in a movie, I will cry. I just cannot comprehend why two young boys would do this. It is beyond evil. Also, my heart goes out to the children who found James on the railway tracks.

this is so true both of these boys should be in jail still

My sister is two years old and the thought of someone doing this to her actually just made me threw up and cry

@@L1v1ngD3adGirI The fact that those two monsters are still out there outrages me and they were treated so well in prison. I cannot imagine what his mother has been going through - God bless that woman. It made me cry too, Purple. I am crying just thinking about it.

@@L1v1ngD3adGirI I have a 4 year old brother and same... If someone done this to him I would not let them get away with such a short sentence. Imagine if it was an adult doing it, they would get likely life in prison (probably a chance of parole)

I will never stop saying this. When children as young as 10 commit crimes it's OUR fault, not theirs.

@@HamelinSong no their fault. More children have traumatic backstories than them but I don't see them killing children

Maybe their parents didn't raise right?

@@HamelinSongThat doesn't change the fact that they are permanently broken individuals and should be kept away from society. But I agree on the point that there is definitely more that can be done to prevent things like this from happening in other cases

@@MsYolost since kids with crappier parents than these usually don't kill people, and kids with wonderful parents sometimes kill people anyway, my guess is these boys would have done cruel things regardless.

Bridget Sheridan at least he’s back in jail. He was found possessing indecent images of children.

Robert started crying when he saw Jon cry But there is definitely something wrong with them

Fucc Wit exactly why he should’ve done life, the while treating them with “normal” rooms with games and stuff in the unit they should’ve taken jail as it is, not as a fun place

They said crocadile tears which is one of the biggest signs of a phycopath or someone with aspd

Sociopaths follow others emotions as they don’t have their own

Same! I have 4 siblings and we all had our spots on the cart, I was in the front because I was the youngest. It got to the point where my dad had to take some time off work to watch me and my siblings because my mother was so paranoid! It went on like that until we were all at school, but it’s happening again because my parents recently adopted a 5-year-old, when I babysit I always make sure she’s in sight, it’s so scary. I’m appalled at what happened to him!

When I was 3 my people had a monkey back with a rope so I don't get kidnapped if I get kids I will never let go of there hands because I'm so scared of this case

My mom* sorry I said it wrong

Do you know the timestamp? This case is a lot for me to handle. I hate re-hearing about it.

sounded like he was reading it. fucking psychopath

I KNOW RIGHT

yeah it is

Daniel Daniar he sounded so robotic, it was horrific

Yes me too let's murder them

val yes, for british people, it comes out of their money when they pay taxes. I’m british and i just hate this

The fact that I have the same last name of one of those boys makes me angry

But its the 🌈 kind ☺️ thing to do. Brought to you by bleeding heart liberals in the land where holding people responsible is offensive

@@aspenhunter9322 nobody likes you

Helen Manser I have so much respect for her being so strong. I’m ganna have to admit, if something happened to my baby boy I would flat out kill myself. I wouldn’t survive it

If my child died I'd try to be strong because you don't want there memory to be a sad one like if one time you were playing ball now all you can think that it was your falt you'd think I didn't spend enough time with him even though it wasn't your falt

i live just across the river and we looked into this last year in re, she really is an inspirational woman 💕

Helen Manser nice lie 👌

Ponygirl AJ fuckin shut up. I was born and bred in Bootle two minutes away from the shopping center he was took from I work there now and grew up going there. U haven’t got a clue Liverpool is a small city and I’ve seen Denise loads of times . Fucking shut up have some respect “ ponygirl “

Limeade L you know what’s scary, the fact that one of them could live on your street and you wouldn’t know :(

They are free men though

8 years they spent their childhood there but they're in the prime of their life now they are free men probably married with kids doing more crimes its sick

Avaxx Msp I forgot which one but one of the murders was aided with £260,000

Avaxx Msp they’re rich now, with stocks and passive incomes probably traveling the world

Well I am not trying to defend them or something but they did suffer from PTSD later.

@@wukap7435 Venables has been arrested on CP-related charges numerous times since then so whatever amount of guilt he's feeling is *definitely* not enough.

@@wukap7435 thats their own fault

@@wukap7435 how about you don't say anything to defend them? like a decent person?

It's even sad knowing the chilling details of his murder this sweet little boy suffered a gruesome death

Eiken amen

im pretty sure he was in possession of child pornography photos

@Emily Barclay You have no sympathy. What he did was sick, but he was *a child* and was *abused in his household, helpless.* Now he has grown from that, he isn't abused and is responsible for his actions.

God... Please help these people

@@stephy2598 I mean he chose to kill the kid. They didn’t force him

Kailyn Risher you need to understand the age and upbringing of these boys they should have got longer but life no.

@@AD-tu1qg life yes! If they are capable with taking a kid out of a mall, walking all that way and having that mentality to KILL and little baby! THEY DESERVE LIFE!

I was raised in a family of 11kids. My dad was no polar. He beat the shit out of our mother and us kids. We were poor as hell. I can't explain the poverty. It was hell. Not one of us killed,molested,beat anyone. Your upbringing is no excuse to do harm,let alone beat a child to death. Then the Bastard get out and are into child pornography. Monsters evil monsters. If it was my kid they killed,I would hunt down the Bastard and kill them.

Bipolar

@@AD-tu1qg excuse me? A TEN YEAR OLD knows better. Theyre almost teens! THEY DESERVE LIFE FOR DESTROYING THAT LIL BOYS LIFE . who the hell makes excuses for a murderer no matter what age?

Justice is a completely different matter than this

@@reinhartaltavillaferrara3546 there was NO justice for that little one.

@@GenXfrom75 exactly. And it drives me insane and furious

The right thing would have been giving them the opportunity for safe upbringing and lots of therapy, ideally payed with depth they would be asked to pay when adults. Then as they've grown up and can actually understand serious punishment, they should have had to go to actual prison. A child can't understand punishment like that, and they shouldn't have to. They clearly had problems with their family, and some serious problems with their psyche. It's a clear lack of responsibility from the side of society to leave children capable of these kind of actions without help they need.

@@AammaK Uh, yeah. But that's not a fucking excuse for this shit. Get real. Do you know HOW MANY kids suffer and don't go on to do this kind of shit? Yeah, there were SERIOUS problems in the families. Just like hundreds, thousands, of other families. It's not right, it's not fair, but they were by no means unique in their upbringing. So they KILL, TORTURE another human and then their government gives them a whole new life like it never happened.

What grave yard is it? Xx

@@catherinehughes837 I believe it’s the kirkdale cemetery

I’m really sorry about your cousin

@@astronomicallybased545 correct x

Just wanted to say thankyou those who have given condolences to me over my cousin x I didn't expect a reply but it touched my heart. My cousin Michael died just as he turned 4 from neuroblastoma, but as he is buried so close to James, I've always left a kiss and a tear on little James grave.

Same

They are not capable of having flashbacks/nightmares... They aren't human.

There’s no way they actually have PTSD, they’re liars. They probably just said that to get some kind of sympathy.

I often feel bad for a lot of people but I simply can not say I will ever feel any simpothy for these people who was so so horrible to that poor boy I just can't

@@RedFoxSkull you do realize PROFESSIONALS would have had to diagnose them right? and you're literally just insulting the professionals that diagnosed them?

Actually!!! And even though these boys were just 10 I believe they should have been sentenced for life imprisonment! Like so what if they are 10? They did kill a baby, they committed a crime, if can do so then they should also be punished accordingly

@@xyz-bl6ii COMMIT ADULT CRIMES, FACE ADULT PUNISHMENT

@@0rangeeige199 exactly!!!!!

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I agree. The innocent boy and his family should of gotten more protection and help from the police then the murderes who killed this sweet adorable baby.

It’s just me, Leena they should rot in jail forever

I understand what they did and stuff but i think thats to far and what they have done to James is AWFUL but no one should go through that no matter who they are you may hate me for saying all this but really my heart shattered after i heard about this about 10 months or 1 year ago.

Gabs Randoms I respect your opinion but I think if you kill someone out of spite you should be locked away for the rest of your life.

@@Fun4u5678123 Yes i completely agree with you when you said that i thought you meant for them to be sentenced to death. I apologize i completely agree with you 8 years wasn't enough.

Gabs Randoms I don’t believe the death sentence is useful because death is the easy way out. They should not be able to live their lives normally ever again and stay in prison and live with what they did. Also, some people are innocent and get the death sentence.

Kindle. wwe 🙏🏼🙏🏼

Amen RIP little baby

Sleep tight James 👼🏻

Spill The tea I nearly cried when she said that those two boys were so sadistic

Venables seems to be beyond redemption for me. Child porn...yuck. And, like the coward he is, he tried to destroy the hard drive before the police got him. Committed atrocities and was too chicken to own up to his crimes. I'd have nothing but contempt for him even if he didn't murder James Burger back then.

@@DellaStreet123 not to mention in the recording of his interrogation, he kept blaming Thompson even thought it seems very apparent that venebles manipulated him as venebles was the only one to REOFFEND, not once, BUT TWICE. Absolutely disgusting. A monster like that doesn’t deserve to be protected. That little boy did. Not venebles.

@Poika There were very likely sexual elements to the initial crime the two committed, so it's unlikely him having csem is just cos of 'the years that were robbed from him'. (And let's be honest, heir time locked up was hardly lacking...) But really, it's no excuse for not only being in possession of csem, but redistributing it as well... That's got nothing to do with any potential loss of sexual exploration. The dude is deeply fucked up and it's ridiculous he hasn't been locked up for good.

Venables molested bulger, I know the degenerate would have done it

@Poika what an odd thing to comment.

According to the boys, James did cry for his mom as he was being tortured. Just disgusting that this poor little boy was in such pain & these psychopaths just kept hitting him with bricks and then wanted a train to bisect James 😔

I can’t help but cry thinking about it. 😭

children don't develop the ability to feel actual remorse until they're in their early teens.

If it wasn’t against the law I would do the same but worse.

@@TakenByStormEquestrian why do you feel the need to make edgy comments about such a serious topic

Hardly luxurious

@@Waveripper36 they were allowed tvs in their cell and much more and got given new identities and a new life after they brutally took one

@@Waveripper36 are you full quid????!! Better situation than they had at HOME!!!! Imagine. A little baby boy is taken from his mother, tortured and murdered..... misses out on his entire life, never mind the sheer terror and pain he was in and had no idea what was happening and where his mummy was. There is certainly something wrong with your “brain” if you don’t think these kids were severely horrifically insufficiently punished.

@@Waveripper36 shut up dumb ass

@@Waveripper36 wtf is wrong with you

Yes..I heard that that happened too..in Merseyside..

it’s honestly so sad

It’s heart breaking that the poor little boy was showing affection like that. the poor baby :( I held my sleeping 3 year olds hand watching this. Someone could have stopped them! This has hurt my heart. R.I.P James 💙

They was most likely doing that so they could lure him out there cause he trusted them and then killed him ❤️ May u rest in price James

Who said he was showing affection what if he was raping him while doing this im so confused he still helped dont feel bad he's a monster!

@@kenny_plays_fortnite1812 you really didn't pay attention did you

Ikr i bet he thought that he was helping him but no he died im so sorry for the family

DAMN....I am heart broken too!

I agree with you R.i.P baby James's xx.

Amen I am crying I actually almost am

I think it’s a little late for prayer

I ain’t prayin for no one but rip

Hopefully his next life is better, praying to gaia sending luck spells your way

Poor little man, didn't deserve that at all, whole life ahead of him 😭🖤🙏🏻🙏🏻💔

They deserve to go to hell!why are they being protected!?

I don’t care because I’m 12 so fuck they ugly asses

Me too 😬

He’s CEO of saying We never or as it sounded we neva

Amy Lynch stfu

@@Amy21650 it's the accent and this isn't really a joking matter 😬

Willow Trump-Torres such a standard thing for people to say in Liverpool but in context 🥶

Catty Clearcloud yea it’s def a tough situation I see the argument from both sides

Calleigh Vincent I don't ,please explain how please .....(idiots)

I didnt even have that growing up. It is disgusting.

Calleigh Vincent I totally agree , they didn’t suffer enough .i feel as if they had lots of luxuries than they would of had possibly at home

Calleigh Vincent that’s so true one of my old friend she didn’t kill anyone but did a cocaine prank and she got 5 years of probation even when it was confirmed it wasn’t cocaine but baking powder

They should be given the death penalty....who cares that they were kids. If I was the baby's mother I would of came after those piece of shit kids.

This.

I agree !!!! Xx

Annie Banany what the hell is wrong with you? This case is horrifying, and I have all the sympathy for the mother, but they were ten years old and clearly disturbed. There should be no room for personal vendetta within our court system.

@@user-me6jl9ht2m They also took a THREE YEAR OLD BOYS LIFE. Because they took his, they shouldn't get theirs.