they are freedom fighters

​@@wakads921or in words of the government "terrorists"

​@@wakads921That was a great video game

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@@Aco2Draco 1:10:13 you're welcome

FMAB is amazing , it didn't get no.1 for long time for nothing

@@kingdoom5022 I mean, I watched it. Thought it was alright. A good 8/10. Don't understand why people rate it so highly though.

​@@gryphon4150The manga is better. Actually though. The manga has great pacing. The weakest part of Brotherhood, the first 13ish episodes are way better and expanded in the manga.

​@@nanoff815the manga is trash

@@gryphon4150 8/10 is a great score though, alright is more like a 6

By that logic K-On is a BECK clone. And BECK is just a Nirvana clone. And Nirvana is just a every other fucking band that ever existed clone.

the fact that he's the most in touch with music

I think Joey did Bocchi dirty when he said the music was mid 😢.

He has solid argument 😏 As a person involved a lot in music Compared to majority of bocchi fans that spoiled by anisong 24/7 🏃

Joey just has really bad taste. Bocchi music is way better than K-On.

NHK is so good

Yeah. A huge part of why Mushoku ended up being an isekai is because the author wanted to meet where a lot of the flawed were. The boom in isekai escapism was based on the central premise that they would be based chads if only they had the chance to be reincarnated into another world, and Mushoku tensei just straight up shows how, no, you'd still be the way you are but you have a chance to better by doing the same things that you can do in our own world here and now. This point flies over the heads of people like it's a stealth bomber.

To me it feels like such a non-argument to ask why it has to be in isekai form if the story is about a person bettering himself. It's just the packaging of the narrative. It doesn't reduce or subtract from the core narrative in any way and usually it's the people who just have a problem with MT for its more controversial moments who seem to have an issue with it being isekai.

@@OnchiBon Funny enough Conner has the same issue with Oshi No ko

Can someone try to explain to me why Welcome to the NHK is so good? It's SO bad, like incredibly frustrating bad. It isn't one guy making the hard decisions to better himself or having the discipline, it's jlthe world giving him second chances CONSTANTLY when he doesn't deserve any with the stupid trope of having a random cute savior girl follow you around because of this random convenient reason we thought of. ​@agustinbaigorria7032

Literally he is the meme,”If I speak I am in big trouble”, lmao

Same as joey while Connor and grant arguing about food

"They hated him(Joey) for telling the truth"

he's saying to himself this "Could anyone kill me right now"

Literally 😐

I don't think he hated it until the fanbase got on him for saying it was ok

I mean it’s just your average shonen. It’s hype but it’s tiring. It’s good, it’s not the greatest.

@@hankocpharung1383Gege has been making a super different and well written shounen for the longest time, but you guys read “shounen” and think it’s basic

@@hankocpharung1383 you can anything abt jujutsu kaisen but tiring lmao , yeah it is dumb shonen but its so goddamn entertaining

Joey : I think jujutsu kaisen is fine but not amazing jjk fans : omg Joey hates jjk !!

He picked made in abyss right at the start

Yall be like: Its new so its better coz people just wanna be unique by liking the old stuffs

unless it comes to anime girls

The true first trash taste tournament arc was the chess tournament.

Their first special was a tournament arc

Garnt loves tournament arcs

Garnt is infamously a tournament arc stan.

Garnt is tournament arc biggest fan

Calling bocchi song's mid just made him the enemies of bocchi fans

He made enemies out of both of the fanbase lmao

Fans are stupid

Joey: I'm a music connoisseur Also Joey: Bocchi soundtrack is mid The audacity

It's fine. They are too socially anxious to go after him

Give it a few years.

​@@Red-mg4ro That's depressing 🙂

@@V.F.D.DaleSalvador Mudan has excellent taste

He probably just googled "Bocchi the Rock bassist" and put the first result on screen.

Oh yeah, "Bocchi the rock has shit Soundtrack" ~ Joey ☠️

Yeah....sometimes i really do feel like "are these guys anime-snobs or am i just delusional" with their takes...

"No one has anxiety like that" -TheMangaLad.

@@kirtapk95 Garnt is the only one who really tries to understand the stories and give proper criticism. Connor and Joey just have opinions.

​@@newbie4789it doesnt have shit soundtrack but K-on is definitely better. The only joey take I agree instead of gigguk

Who?

​@@deathlydashi I think they're talking about Joey

If referring to the whole Bocchi the Rock thing, while I've not seen the anime, it seems she might be an introvert but more accurately, she has severe social anxiety and they're not the same. I am an introvert, I am happy with my own company and don't really yearn for the company of others, though maybe in the future I might like to try having friends. I'm not against socializing, but I'm very content to be by myself. Social anxiety is someone who wants to make friends or socialize but it brings on extreme panic. The two can have some over-lap and share a Vinn Diagram, but they're not the same thing. I say this because I'm admittedly quite tired of people mixing them up. Introversion is being seen the same as social anxiety and it's not. I kind of feel like I'm always on clean up duty when speaking to extroverts and having to course-correct because when I say I'm an introvert, the reaction is imemdiately negative. Forgive me, those with social anxiety, that will have to be your battle to speak on and explain since I've not walked in those shoes, but I'm going to at least try to set the record straight for us introverts 😅 I saw an animated short here on KZfaq not too long ago that I seriously wish I could find again because it explains it so perfectly, of a character living on their own in the woods, not because they hate people or people make them nervous or anxious, but because it's what brings them joy. The character is single and maybe one day they'll have a partner but likely no kids, and that's also not due to hating kids, it's just not what they want for their life. I felt like the animator got the "assignment" and did a beautiful job of representing "us".😂 There's plenty of content about social anxiety but not enough on just being an introvert. We're not as represented because we're always inaccurately depicted/labeled. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk 😂

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley"you "might like to try having friends" don't worry you will it will be tough you might get hurt in all honesty you probably will get hurt but you'll like it and it'll be worth it to have true friends

​@@deathlydashiThats if the most retarded take I've ever seen

That's my only problem with Joey's criticisms of Bocchi. Half his criticisms are that this thing that happens in Bocchi would never happen in real life when it happens all the time in real life. He's allowed to dislike or hate the show but I would rather he didn't discredit that people are different from him and have different experiences than him. My social anxiety has always affected me and I relate to pretty much everything in the show to a lesser extent, having said that I recognise my social anxiety has never been that bad compared to some others. so if my 'not that bad anxiety' can mostly relate to Bocchi, then someone whose anxiety is that bad would be as bad as Bocchi.

It’s also funny that he brings up Carlos Santana. One of his most famous and breakout performances was at Woodstock when he wasn’t even suppose to play. He took acid since he was told he wasn’t going to play but then the person who was playing backed out. He then had to get on stage tripping and incredibly nervous. He went up on stage and killed it, the rest is history

@@elmatador2139 tbf, joey in general is dismissive of experiences outside his own.

Joey has yet to hit 30 and is already becoming senile 💀

The takes "You expect me to believe that shit would actually happen though? and "K-ON is the development of all the characters coming together after their differences and trying to create a band. Is exactly the same. Except K-ON the characters aren't insufferable like Bocchi are" I really don't understand Joey at all. I'm in the same boat as Garnt here where to me K-ON didn't do it and Bocchi is the K-ON done right. Joey can dislike Bocchi but I can't understand how he likes K-ON and argues theses things on Bocchi. Characters in K-ON don't have differences they have to overcome in order to create a band, they are just brought to the club and just eat sweets and drink tea. They do that so much to the point where I wonder when they practice to even be able to perform. Specially when Yui is kinda just forced into it when she didn't even played an instrument. And characters not being insufferable I don't get it since K-ON has Yui, which calling her an air head is a complement since her head has vacuum of space on it. And worse she infects other characters with her lack of brain cells. "that would never happen" yeah Joey because people using the money from sold guitars to use for their music club would CLEARLY mean to use the money to buy a turtle as a kouhai and a new member of the club. Yes that happens... Like do you even remember K-ON??? The turtle thing made me completely drop the second season of K-ON since that reached my limited specially since the teacher ended being okay with it, not only that all the other members needed to approve such an a idea that Yui proposed. Sure Bocchi is the embodiment of all social anxiety and problems but we at least see improvement on it and the animation used to express such a thing is done in a unique and funny way.

Some of the takes are so bad I wish they went back

@@rumplstiltztinkersteinIs the podcast reflecting the name yet in your opinion?

they always talk about anime or at least japan related stuff. idk why they pretend its not an anime podcast

​@@rumplstiltztinkerstein i mean, its in the name 😂

@@SeargentChouChouit’s trash taste not trash TAKES

second and third one i would agree

He also Holds K-On to high of a regard.

Or he didn’t give it a chance and expected absolutely perfect

@@nintendofreak768 Yeah. No idea what Joey sees in K-On. I thought first season was mid and second was downright bad, because the mental age of the cast dropped to 5.

He also just isn't very familiar with the extent of social anxiety.

Joey Hold K-On to high of regard. So anything not outright praising it is slander in his eyes.

@@nintendofreak768 I love K-On too, it was one of the first 20 anime I’ve ever watched, but I don’t wear rose-tinted glasses. That show was a product of it’s time, and while it’s aged fine enough for the people who like those kinds of shows (slice of life,) it really is pretty standard.

He didn't watch the whole show. He's already said that he only watched the first three or four episodes.

@@Sharkofspace where does he come off even being that vitriolic without watching the whole thing? His opinions are built upon nothing.

@@Pimpgamer101 He hates things that are popular because he wants to be different. JJK, Bocchi, Arcane, ETC. He's even soured on anime as a whole now that it's become super mainstream. He more or less said so himself in his interview with Anthony Padilla. He also wants to distance himself from the image of annoying bocchi fans that he created in his own mind.

And right next to it, “do you know what’s better terrorism with friends “

We also need. Let’s colonize -cdawg

So One Piece

nelson mandela was on us list of terrorists, overall most progressive figures were viewd as terrorists by us gov

Connor: "They're terrorists... They call themselves Freedom Fighters" Britain in 1776: *Calls the 13 colonies "Terrorists"* Americans in the 1770's: *You've activated my patriotism. We're fighting against the tyranny of King George III*

Dude just wants some good and normal characters.

@@SeargentChouChouTTGL got second place and he would’ve had one piece win it all what are you on about lol

@@SeargentChouChou The comment you are replying to is literally comparing the hyper exaggeration of Gurren Lagann to Bocchi. Kamina is NOT "good and normal". He is same level of exaggeration in the extrovert scale to Bocchi in the introvert scale

@@Amaling like I said normal and good lol

@@Amaling unless it's dark and deep (edgy)

lol

Saaaame

Whoa- Someone does the same exact thing as me when a new episode comes out-

Washing dishes feel too short now

How many dishes that u have to wash for the span of 2 hours lol?

I watched k-on and although I enjoyed it I in fact do not remember a single song, actually I remember not liking them that much. Now Bocchi has some bangers

underrated comment

also, the fact that Joey "doesn't believe anyone has as much anxiety as Bocchi" or that he doesn't believe someone can go from pissing and crying with stage fright to breaking it down like a god once they're in their element, shows that Joey clearly has never talked to someone with anxiety. It took my gf like 3 years to get on a bus without having a hysteria attack. I mean sure it's exaggerated in Bocchi but it's almost like it's anime or something....

I love how Garnt was arguing against the stage-confidence being unrealistic since I 100% experience that effect as well

@@marcog.verbruggen674 Joey is so boyish, he doesn’t have empathy and sympathy

To be honest the soundtrack is the worst part of the anime

Joey exposed himself again. In one of the live shows, he said the Bocchi music was "stellar"

Tbh I disagree with Joey ALOT. And I also liked/didn’t hate Bocci. I’m also an introvert. But I actually agree with him here, I am musician my whole life and that’s my full time career (not that it makes a difference everyone is entitled to their opinion). But I say this more in that I am a music anime connoisseur. Tbh bocci was just ok for me, the music certainly wasn’t bad but I can’t remember a single song or melody nothing sticks. I just think you are lying if you say that you listen to Bocci soundtrack in your free time. I just wish ppl would admit that they fell in love with bocci’s character and it carried the show, but the music was just ok.

@@Qdawwg i do listen to the soundtrack in my free time. Its not that crazy.

@@Qdawwg It's been 1.5 years since Bocchi ended, I don't speak a lick of Japanese, but when I listen to the music (yes, I do it on my free time), I still remember the meaning of each line from way back when I read the translations not long after the show ended. It's that memorable to me

Yeah😂

Lmao

They didn't clarify but if he actually meant "Yorknew wasn't good" that dominates

feel like its just for the bait sake lol

I am always surprised that the Vs. Mahito Arc is overlooked from a story standpoint. The killing the transformed kids and Junpei getting morphed...the hit like a truck for me.

S2 jjk is such Garbo. Shibuya arc was joke fiesta after they seal Gojo (Mechamaru was also BS on another level). Most fight after that was just for sake of "dumb".

Shibuya Arc is also well written.

@@rockstar1103 shibuya arc would be good if there was more set up for it. As is it feels like if Naruto did the pain arc at the end of of Naruto instead of half way through shippudden.

@@rockstar1103 shibuya arc writting is so dumb... 90% deaths was skippable and added nothing. We already know Nanami was dead after Mahito arc and waited 1 season for it. Power scalling was so dumb and over the place. Nobara getting beat by no name was such bs and same idiot show up to kill megumin. Like this shit was so stupid. Ending was also such ass pull.

I feel like I've never seen this angle before haha

Connor was like: "I don't care for Bocchi, but these takes are making me nonchalant"

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ooof, ROASTED! Lmao

we got a funny bocchi fan over here

LMFAO. Great joke

HAHAHA!! Excellent piece of comedy right there. Sure showed him!

Tbh his takes in general, anime ones are just most famous ones lol

I genuinely believe he read the description and nothing more cuz the only thing they have in common is music fr

Joey tries to be a snobby contrarian because he realizes he doesn't have a redeeming quirk that the other boys have

No, he has watched them. He just hates on anything that’s recently come out because he has a biased for older anime. Early 2000-2015 anime

@@a_waff1es_0pinion76 Nah, I don't think so. If he's saying GBC is a K-On clone and K-On has better tracks than GBC, I don't think he even watch any of the short MV at all, let alone other recent anime that people talked about. He just refused to take off his nostalgia goggles and just consume manga that he likes and ignore latest anime catalogues except for the obvious ones he follows, like Monogatari.

It’s such a fascinating concept in stories for example itachi is a WIDELY beloved character in Naruto even though he committed genocide and heavily worsened his brothers life. You would think he would be hated but because it’s not a commonly relatable situation no one bats an eye.

I can't say anything about MHA But the reason I dislike the character of Rudi is that he is a 30 year old who get reborn and decides to become a pedophile. Thorfinn is a kid that grows up in war and hate, you can understand why he acts like that.

​@@c4ptaintuttle276 Rudeus doesn't decide to become a pedophile after he's reborn, he is a pedophile way before that in his previous life. After being bullied at school he shuts himself up into his room and becomes a hikikomori (a real issue in Japan where people can't socialise and end up as a human parasite). He spends decades coping with life using the internet, just like many people that watch anime today he copes using fantasy. As a result of this, his mental state is completely fucked and he is a complete bum of a human being. That is the setup for the character Rudeus. Does somebody like this deserve to live a happy life and redeem themself? Does he deserve a real place In the world? Just because he's a bad human does he deserve to die alone with no friends? Mushoku tensei is a redemption of the lowest of low human being into a man that protects, loves and provides for his family and makes a meaningful difference to the world. People that hate this anime are just projecting their own shortcomings onto rudeus, pointing out his flaws. But they are hypocrites since they also likely spend their real life coping with media and games. They are projecting their own issues with imperfection onto those around them. You are not perfect, nobody is perfect so don't judge others based on your ideals. These are the core ideas of Mushoku Tensei.

@@edward-34salamanca I can't remember that it was ever showed in the past that he was a pedophile. It was just suddenly after he was reincarnated , also he had a lot of time to reflect in a pretty decent environment. But after 13 years of time to think and 32 years of life experience before and he still didn't change and was a pedophile. Also the way minor girls are just sexually displayed for cheap Fan service is awful. I really liked the first season of mushuko tensei. Even with the problems I mentioned before.

@@edward-34salamanca My issue with the show comes down to presentation. Idk if this make sense, but the show treats his behavior as too normal. Like it lets him be a creep and kinda rewards it.

Nah. that was Jojo's bizarre adventure

Whoever made Steins;Gate and Attack on Titan face off in the first bracket is evil as well.

It upset me how they said "Mob is better in every category, but Guren is more hype so it moves on"

@@HaloGT1but I can’t argue is the most the most frustrating I’m not mad tho Gurren Lagann is just built different

​@@tristanderamos6455 it drills through the arguments.

I’m already laughing my ass off and feeling the absolute saltiness from any offended fan from this hot take

"K-On has better music than Bocchi the Rock" "K-On knew what they were doing but BTR didn't " Joey's whole Bocchi the rock conversation is worth it

Both have shit music imo ​@newbie4789

It's okay guys. Joey doesn't understand the themes and messages from K-on either lol

I literally don't remember any of the songs in k on except maybe the end , bocchi is much much better music wise lol

That isn't even an arc.

@@Christopher._M Apologies for mistyping, although it is a micro arc of sorts I meant to say section

@@Christopher._M The Yorknew city arc he meant

what's even more infuriating is he praised it in his hxh review video...

@@LymLevolveon No I didn't, Joey wasn't talking about the whole of Yorknew, he just said the part where they go to the auction to obtain Greed Island was. Which is also what I was referring to in the comment.

Uhhh....its tournament bracket of different anime. What were you expecting?

@@mistersureshot1749 I mean two of the three except Garnt should just stop talking about anime if they don't watch anime anymore, their takes are really stale and out of touch.

@@airtrack2010Then don’t watch 🤷‍♂️

@@airtrack2010 anime fans start touching grass challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

​@@airtrack2010 👀 this means you're working on a video yourself, yes? With actual takes that won't get you chased out of town with pitchforks? Ugh I'm so ready! Hurry up and edit it!

People like you look for controversy and drama in everything.

@@Osaaamaaa But he's not wrong though XD

that's show business

@@TheMudkipArmada He is. The only controversial one was Frieren vs FMA, because of the number 1 spot on MAL.

@@Sukenus lol what Gurren lagan vs Mob pyscho and H H vs GUrren seemed pretty heated to me

Especially GBC, for some reason he hates it with a passion

@@valhallakombi7239 Wait where did he actually talk about Girls Band Cry? I only remember him naming it in passing this episode

@@bidulus1 I think he mentioned it in passing in some second channel video that I watched, probably that Reddit top 500 video. He had same reaction, didn't understand why it was in top 500

@@valhallakombi7239 Oh yeah I remember that, he didn't really say anything about it though, I doubt he watched it. Which honestly maybe he should, from what he's been saying he would probably like it a lot more than Bocchi 🤣

Another thing imo that Joey said which was pretentious was giving One Punch Man anime a C tier ranking. Bruh...

Then every anime has pdf file content in it

It's about an introvert learning how to communicate through music you could remove the music and change it to something else and it still would hit similarly

@@michaeldavis8918it’s about an aspiring guitarist who is introverted. Literally everything about the show from the gear to the playing is way too detailed to claim that you could just throw it away.

@leastselfawarepotassium make her an artist or a V-tuber or some other role you can get famous online without needing to show your face then have her meet friends who help he become less introverted boom bocci the artist or bocchi the tuber or whatever the show doesn't need the music to tell its message it does use music really well but the purpose of the show isn't the music

@@michaeldavis8918that’s just ridiculous man. You could say that about literally any anime. Make Blue Lock about basketball and it’s the same.

@leastselfawarepotassium yeah sure I'm talking about the purpose of the story it's supposed to teach us about how to get our comfort zone, ofc the story won't be the same I'm just talking about the lessons the story is trying to teach us, they could have a basketball blue lock where they are trying to be the best point guard or something ofc the story won't be the same but the purpose of the story could still be the same

couldn't believe what I was hearing. as a fellow guitarist his take feels almost slanderous. ano bando goes unbelievably hard

@@loganmccurdy1328 best song in the album ngl, I also love Flashbacker

@@lenn_man hell yes

Definitlely, Joey´s take on BTR was absolutely unjustified. Him hating on the soundtrack is just rubbing a shit ton of salt into the wound

@@partinmalm honestly Joey really came for the Bocchi fans' heads with his take. It also just seemed like he won't regard the show's merits and why it was received so well by lots of people

Yeah, it's like ~Your illness is not real. Its literally all in your head, silly.~ Leave it to Joey to come up with majority of the braindead takes

he's true, there simply does not exist a human being that is actually that socially awkward, bocchi is far too exaggerated

​​​@@waveybooosimple counterpoint: I was. When I was a kid my social anxiety was a living hell. I couldnt talk to people. My voice would tremble even when talking to my own friends. I would literally being shaking just trying to meet peoples eyes. Every little social indiscretion I made was like torture for me. It would eat me up. To this day I have never any pain equal to the agony I felt then. And with all this and yet still to feel so irrepressibly lonely. I will never wish that hell on anyone. When people dismiss these experiences it feels like a slap in the face.

@@onijaanjonu3367 yep i completely agree with this. i’d like to add that joey *might* be confused(i’m not sure if he actually is) because of the way anxiety is portrayed through animation for comedic effect and *may* think that, that is how it feels like - as in EXACTLY feel like THAT. i do believe i have social anxiety, it got better, went completely downhill, might be getting better but if you condensed and animated it, it would probably feel like that. bocchi glitching out on the ground is just another way to say she’s shaking - a metaphor. or even the scenes where she’s hiding in a box, it can be interpreted as another way to say she’s super nervous to go up on stage, and when she is on stage she may be trying to hide (like when she performs whilst hiding in the box) or not be seen, she feels uncomfortable seeing all the people looking at her and may not want to be perceived. and honestly i’d rather perform hiding in the box.

​​@@waveybooo That's such a bald claim lmao Im worse than bocch Like it doesn't even make sense from a statistical stand point from how many people there are and the amount of massed up disorders that exist. Like bruh, schizophrenia is a thing.

how the hell didn't any other big anime get on the list.

Fkn Mudan bro

That's Roy

That’s pretty clear that they don’t watch their videos before uploading, and yeah, you shouldn’t do that

@ragnaricstudios5888 why would they, they pay an editor to do that. Mudan is usually right

@@n1gtwhisper158when you’re paying someone, they have to be on point, and letting stuff like that slip through makes them look misinformed

zero drinks will be had lol

I have really bad social anxiety, but I can sorta understand him because I've always been astounded by people who embarrass themselves infront of others because they have social anxiety. Like I've met people like Bocchi who freak out and stay quiet and are just super awkward and it always confuses the hell out of me because my anxiety makes me act normal because I would off myself if anyone thought I wasn't normal lmao (I also would never be able to perform in public of my own volition though) When I was a kid I actively disliked those types of kids because I always felt like they were faking it for attention because if I could pretend to be comfortable/normal despite having a panic attack then so could they (I don't think that anymore since I know it comes in all different forms and depends on different factors, I also thought it was embarrassing when other kids cried at that age, just saying I can understand where Joey is coming from)

@@solacee4327 Finally! Someone who tries to understand both sides instead of attacking Joey for the sake of attacking Joey.

@@solacee4327 Ah, I think this helps me understand a bit better what it is about Bocchi the Rock that made me dislike it. I couldn't really put my finger on why I found it violently unenjoyable, despite enjoying very similar shows such as K-On and Hitoribocchi no marumaru seikatsu (the latter of which is the better Bocchi and co), but it's probably smth similar to what you've explained.

@@solacee4327 Joey is saying that there are no people like Bocchi at all though. He has even said many times before that he cannot imagine a real person thinking or acting like Bocchi does. I don't understand how you agree with him when you yourself have encountered people like that in real life

More like "Maaan" because of his shi takes.

The

The Clothing Brand Man

Can we take it to "The old man"? His opinions are clouded by nostalgia

Nah, he's reasonable.

He's looking into your soul.

Looked dead inside LOL

It's has to be a meme

wtf is bro doing lmaoo

He's doing the Jim face

Connor can't absorb ideas too easily the way Garnt does, who appreciates the message that any piece of literature is expressing regardless of how it's done. He literally needs Garnt to explain it to him lol

Yeah. This is why I wish the anime didn't cut the convo in S2E23 the way they did. It cut out all of Rudeus's convo with Roxy about what a man who has lost his entire family, who has betrayed them, who now cannot go back to them to apologize or make amends can even do to remedy the situation. I feel like this part of the novel was this explicit because the author knew it had to be to get through some thick skulls and lo and behold when it's cut a lot of people don't get it. Regardless, the anime made a mistake on that particular aspect so I think that particular criticism is more valid than others.

fr bro 💀

Honestly Joey is the most unfun person to talk about out anime with

​@@ragnaricstudios5888 this guy talking like he's a friend of Joey who's discussed anime with him in person before 😂

@@nanashi7779he’s made it clear multiple times, are you blind? That’s his schtick throughout his KZfaq career

​@@Quinnsula5 saying is shit it's very difficult to say. Many song in the OST are just technically good and they have a really good production. Every instruments is clearly audible, the mixing is great. There are great riffs, [ カラカラ ] is awesome and technical... I fucking love K-On songs, but man... the studio version of Cagayake Girls seems like is mixed in a garage. Saying B t R song are shit is a long stretch.

"What do you mean someone with social anxiety doesn't morph through a bunch of art styles, to then become a terrible 3D model, and then be sent flying through the air to hit bowling balls? That's not realistic guys... So bad" Bro watched the show with his brain in rest mode.

As much as I appreciate Garnt for defending Bocchi, his defense is terrible. At least for me, I did not watch or enjoy Bocchi because it was "relatable." I watched and enjoyed it because of the character progression, jokes, and music alone. He's not selling the show at all everytime he tries to frame it as an anime "for introverts."

@@MNTNHMESMO Best thing is that Joey literally was prasing Bocchi when it was coming out, and only because of the whole drama with him saying that nobody is like bocchi he flipped his opinion to spite bocchi fans.

@@viciousoz4188 Yeah lol I agree. That was the most frustrating part for me regarding the whole segement, the person arguging in favor of the show is doing a poor job of explaining why people actually enjoy the show.

@@viciousoz4188 Also, it's a great feel good anime. With a character that tries her absolute hardest to get over a mental illness.

Vinland is Just 10 times better than Frieren mate. And to answer your Question Vinland is about to end in some time. So it will go down as the one of the Goats.

​@@roman8756 vinland is suck ass boring lmfao, frieren is so much more enjoyable

@@edwardseg finally, someone who agrees with me

They didn't say Frieren wasn't picked because it wasn't finished. They said it wasn't there because it was only one season. Not to mention they still had issues, though minor, with Frieren. Vinland Saga is two seasons in now and the quality has remained good if not improved to them. And honestly, at least in my opinion, Vinland Saga's season 1 story is a lot more self-contained than Frieren.

​@@edwardseg typically week shitty opinion. Vinland saga is a far more complex and interesting show than frieren, which was good until the basic ass chin exam arc

I completely agree and I've never seen either. I've had both on my list and from what little I've seen of each, that's how I felt while listening to this argument.

How? He just thinks JJK is serviceable while disliking Bocchi. Nothing crazy about that

@@vvverne Its just hist argument about disliking Bocchi is so dumb

@@ifightbears7609 He hates bocchi because he founds the MC insufferable, the music mid & the story boring. Those are pretty normal sounding opinions

​@@vvvernebut he doesn't say it like that

Yes, you're absolutely right, both can at least be just as blinding.

It's equally blinding. Also why I kinda prefer Garnt's opinion over Joey. Garnt still keeps his excitement for newer shows while Joey hates anything that is newer and better than his nostalgic pics. The whole argument about Bocchi the Rock was BRAIN ROT

​​@@newbie4789 Its not equally blinding , nostalgia bias is way stronger , there's so much animes i loved before that i wouldn't be able to watch them now

@@kingdoom5022 aint nobody tryna argue bleach and naruto as the best animes ever, quit yapping.

​@@kingmcclawson190 Old animes have really slow pacing , i liked them before , but now when you can finish 2 amazing 25 episodes anime before even finishing one arc of Naruto , i rather watch the 25 episodes animes lol

true true, Steins gate is much more well written than aot and especially factoring aot ending into the comparision I dont know how you can pick Aot over steins gate which has a goated ending.

​@samuraijosh1595 AoT ending is great in the anime and the only reason people don't like it is because they don't get understand it. Also, the hosts never put down or trashed Steins Gate, which is a great show. They just like AoT better which is a valid opinion. Stop crying

@@Omar_E11 I never said they put it down I just said that it's a shame they don't get into more detailed discussions about it since they don't remember it much. Also we can agree to disagree because I've analyzed the AoT ending for hours and I've come to the stance that it's one of the most disappointing endings in fiction, at least when you look at the discrepancy in quality between the ending and the rest of the show

@@zedith6045 There is no discrepancy in quality in the anime. The manga ending had flaws that were resolved in the adaptation.

@@Omar_E11 there were only minor changes made with the conversation between Eren and Armin but there are problems beyond just that. Even then the conversation between the two has its flaws

100% agree, Bocchi’s ost has a ton of streams on spotify

It's definitely not mid but is it really that good? I mean it fails to be the main attraction of the show, bocchi is more known for its comedy rather than it's songs.

​@@cracuss31n52 and still sons are good. It does everything it wants with full freedom. That why its great.

​@@cracuss31n52The songs were actually good I advice to listen to the albums instead of the short ones on the anime.

​@@cracuss31n52I mean the song is really popular that got million views and got in first take an anime not opening not ending just song they also did live concert of bocchi songs

Agree

As an introvert full time musician, I had panic attacks nearly everyday for most of my life lol. I would throw up right before going on stage, and I couldn’t eat at all the day of a show. Nowadays I am fine I learned through exposure therapy. That being said I actually agree w Joey that bocci music is just ok it’s really not up there for music anime for me. It’s carried by introverts not the actual music

as someone who use to play in a Orchestra i would hide behind my other mates in the section my conductor amazing guy very funny helped me out alot with social anxiety and stage fright u can play the song and practice the sheet for hours every day and play it perfect and then when u get on stage it's like being choked everyone can hear your mistakes everyone can see your bow movements ​@@Qdawwg

I swear Joey is baiting hard with that statement. Bro has interviewed many celebs who said the same thing regarding social anxiety

Bro never experienced anything close to that feeling, so of course it can't happen. Braindead takes all around.

He never actually have to deal with social anxiety, because he probably have a good progression from childhood. Unlike Garnt who have to actively try to have a social interaction in University when things felt a lot more concious. This is what bocchi was supposed to represent, what it feels like to have social anxiety, not what it looks like.

@@zoinksscoob6523 The problem is... it's a comedy show and the kind of Watamote esque show he just straight up doesn't like. If it was a serious show that tackled social issues I'm pretty sure this would not be a problem.

@@ShadowOfMassDestruction I think most people understand comedy is subjective and won't work on all people. Joey could have just said that he didn't like the comedy or characters but he had to make a braindead take on how there are no people like Bocchi. It makes it seem like it's not a comedy/serious issue for him, but just that he is unable to understand that people like that exist

@@adizcool2-655 Zamn welp I can't defend that lol

wdym not needed watching, SG Zero from my opinion is even better than the original

@@edwardseg by saying “not needed” I mean it has no impact or further of the original storyline that the original steins gate shows.

It’s kind of hard to compare a really good complete show to a show with only one season,

“I really want more of Denken, I want a good villain” oh they dont even KNOW

No he’s hating it because a large number of you bocchi fans are insufferable and the music was mid at best. It’s pretty simple dog.

I think so.

he is just faking a drama

This the same guy who farmed clicks for hating SAO just to hate

I mean tbf, it's not everyone's cup of tea. Sure, it appeals to the majority of the anime fan base, but I could see how Joey would find it as unrealistic because he doesn't relate to it. But you're right in that saying that he hates it rather than saying "it's just not for me" is for sure just hating

I mean I know they're comparing anime but Jojo's manga has both longer run and surprisingly bigger pagecount.

@@sharmelfattakhov5041 you literally just made my point. They’re debating the anime, not the manga.

@@Pimpgamer101to be fair, Connor remembered they were only talking about anime after he made that comment.

Clearly, they haven't seen it other than Garnt (who put it S tier in his seasonal review) GBC features a lot of drama and character development while K-On is just them sipping tea, and when they perform, they suddenly become good at music. I liked GBC for showing that they constantly practice and not just fucking around doing nothing. They actually are selling shit, hauling their gear, getting record deals etc. As much as I love K-On, the music aspect was lacking for me, and BtR and GBC rectified that

Yeah ... Some of the arguments he had were really not helping his case.

Right? I watched Bocchi and I wasn't in love with it compared to others, but I can easily see and appreciate what is good about it. I don't know exactly what about the anime could make you HATE it, even if it wasn't your cup of tea.

@@oomay1925 Joey is a contrarian asshole, it is just his default state of being.

It would make for a boring podcast if it were just a mature conversation tho, would it not?

You know why? He thinks it’s funny that way. Similar to the prankster mindset.

At least Connor has the decency to say that the show isn't for him, which he has said in the past. Also, there really needs to be a slice of life enjoyer for one of these episodes, I swear

Comedy was on point. Depiction of actual anxiety and social phobia was the best depiction ever put on any media ever made. Animation was perfect, no notes. Voice acting? Bro. Joey was absolutely spiting nonsense here.

i am so retarded that a lot of the times i wouldnt be terrified to respond to the cashier, when i dont see the 5 friends that i have for longer than 2-3 weeks i am scared to talk to them again, but bocchi was completely not relatable to me most ofthe time

no they're just right lol

​​​@@soapsatelliteYou know something... I actually think Connor might actually have a neutral opinion than Joey if he watch the show He is not that dense

Disagree

Joey is a massive bullshitter who just fakes his way through conversations about anime he barely knows at times to make himself look smarter. It is pretty blatant that he hasn't seen certain shows but tries to talk on them like an expert and will just say he forgot if anyone tries to press him on bringing up even a single actual point about the show.

Do you understand personal preference? He thinks they are mid. Music is extremely subjective.

jjk aint leagues better at all lmao. jjk is mid tropey shounen while bocchi in its own category is a great show

@@adamhercik581 I know that but is it wrong to go against someone's personal preference? Ofc not Even Garnt disagrees

@@OK-mv4ihRegardless of them being in different categories, in terms of enjoyability and length its much better

​@@OK-mv4ihthe problem is, only loud minority people agree with your take.