Zombies started as 4 people trying to survive the apocalypse. Moving from place to place. And now its something about monsters and demons traveling through dimensions... what has this become...

Yeah the story didn't start in the 1300's or at the Tungasken event. The story actually started when I became a sucker for medieval castles

I love zombies but BO3 has made it way to complicated to play. I miss the easy days of Kino der toten

The beginning was waw imo. When Samantha went back after buried she started the cycle in origins.

I still refuse to believe the demons and Lovecraft stuff. Everything past Buried is just a fever dream that Richthofen haves about saving the world

Revelations=Heaven Theory- 1. Revelations= last book of the Bible. 2. There is said to be no sun in heaven, but still light. In the opening cutscene there is no sun. 3. Everyone is said to be young in heaven. Thus the children and your reverse age thing with Maxis. "Monty is old though" I hear you asking. 4. Monty was said to be the devil by the shadow man. So he may be immune to this whole everyone being young thing. 5. I'm sure there's more evidence, let see what you think below.

I honestly didn't like the Origins-Bo3 timeline. I liked the Waw-Bo2 timeline more.

they really need to make a movie

It all depends... Jason: Up the ass crack of 'WW1' Jimmy: Everything going wrong one night, just by creating a Hellhound...

2:35 he sounds like palpatine. Coincidence? I think not

Johny, I think that it should all start in Der Riese. This is when Dr. Richthofen 1.0 teleports Samantha and Maxis. When Maxis is Killed He tells Samantha to "Kill Them, KILL THEM ALL!" so then Samantha set's Zombie's unto the world and she may have known that Richthofen would end up surviving with none other than, Tank Dempsey. So as by knowing this She sends the zombies to Verrückt in order to kill Dempsey so Richthofen can not work with him so Eddie cannot gain control of the Eather and we know that it inevitably fails but that, in my opinion, is the start of the Zombie storyline. If you read this I am having trouble connecting this theory to the 2.0 Storyline so if you can explain that in your next episode that would be Awesome! Thanks for reading this if you did!

I'm glad this video was put out on my birthday. The perfect question I've always wanted to know just happened to be answered on my birthday.

It's only been half a year and I already miss zombies.

John I love your videos keep up the great work

I have never looked at it from that point of view, cool thinking and nice job

Ok I have been watching this dude for a while and I don't know how he hasn't hit one million he has all these theory's and stuff that are mind blowing and clever

You talked about a circle and how it is so hard to find the beginning of that. Though, you have to start doing the circle at some point, otherwise there is no circle.

great Scott!!

love ur vids 🤘

Maybe when the origins crew are born again they start to remember stuff from the cycle and they end up beating doctor Monty?

Thank you for actually distinguishing a difference from a Marine and a Soldier 💙

damn..i was thinking he was just gonna be like "origin. s'why it's called origin. done." but no I got like a AU science test

this video makes lots of since I'm so amazed

Zombies started from "The Big Bang". The plot thickens.

The story starts on world at war with Nocht after alot of people in the community start their own zombie theories of the story they thought was there when there really wasnt one at all. People thought one sound was the zombies saying "SAM!", and that's when the storyline started. Ofcourse we had additional lore created by the community with verrukt but that's how it went.

Is it possible that when we brrak the cycle on MOTD it affects the whole storyline ?

monty sounds like micheal rosen

I feel like Primis was the start because that's when the 4 characters were the ancients and everything really jus kicked off from there, plus that's where Monty put them to start over in this forever cycle, so it would make sense for primis to be the start

Cool vid

what are the crawlers in revelation and love your vids keep it up

I just realized that the mound from origins is in the background of the Revelations ending cutscene. Perhaps they are supposed to be in origins or in a different place with a mound like origins.

The cutscene at the end of Revelations o was like : Plot Twist and now it makes since

I wish it wasn't over :(

earliest video I've ever been to

My man!

I did research about the real life element 115 and it is actually the heaviest metal!😀

Good channel

I believe time is like a string. When there is a loop or for an example a knot in the string, the string is in circular formation, but can be undone. Just find the origin of the knot and untie. It's not as simple as it sounds, but it does simplify things. It could even be proof that there might be more to the story when treyarch will be releasing their next game. Than again, it might not. Some people thought the ending of zombies wasn't a good one, but the more I think about it, the ending is a loop, right? It never ends, that's basically the point of the gamemode, it never ends. Just hordes upon hordes of zombies. Interesting how the two have in common. Just a penny for your thoughts.

Whats the significance in the loading screen on bo3(the forest)

Zombies starts at battlefield 1

A circle does have a beginning, but you just can't tell where (or in this case, when) it began.

I think the zombie's storyline really got too carried away with itself. It was interesting and mysterious from World at War to Black Ops, subtle and had an occult vibe which was out there but just enough to still be believeable. By Black Ops 2, the story started to become a bit more core to the game and it wasnt awful but then orgins comes along and i think took things too far. Now black ops 3.. Jesus christ. The story became so convoluted and really got taken way too far. The rituals, apothicons and multiple dimensions. It was too much. I feel like they just kept expanding on the story trying to make it as far out and ridiculous as possible just creating more questions than it could answer for, too many plot holes to count. Ofcourse the story has to develop and be fresh as time goes on. But atleast tie some things up. Don't reach too far. The old story telling was much more interesting and exciting than what it has become. I think something not just the zombies storyline needs to realise, but pretty much all game franchises these days is; All things must come to an end. Rather end on a high note than keep churning out garbage until theres nothing left to be made of it. But thats right... It's only money that speaks to the Video Game developers now.... Sad times...

On nacht der untoten, Dempsey was there. He was able to make it out and eventually got captured by Richtofen while he was still at Group 935.

Look at the Zombies Chronicles cinematic trailer. It shows the real order of each zombies map. It starts with Verruckt and claims to end with Ascension in ZC

"Let go, and the beginning will become the end."

Here's a question since we know primis with the gate keepers and wolf king fought and defeated the apothicans. Does that history only happen in the origins crew universe? Or does it happen also in the 1.0 crew versions universe where instead of events in BO3 taken place we see the events of WAW/BO1 take place and eventually BO2? Also if Sam from the 1.0 crews universe never got transported from Aether in BO1 to the origins crew universe. Would the Origins crew go down the path the 1.0 crew did i.e. Richtofen brain washing Tank, Takeo, Nick and using them to get control of the zombies from sam and lead to the events of BO2? Great video and keep up the good work.

Okay john the earliest time are characters work with element 115 is when they are in the "primis" form. The staffs work by charging and harnessing the power off weaponized 115.

I have a question. how were the 2.0 of everybody but ricktofen in the world already?

In the WaW campaign missions there are zombie easter eggs ive found acouple

well if we're looking to find the beginning we should chose the universe that wasn't supposed to have 115, if I'm not mistaken that's either the origins crew or the waw crew. as for the beginning of a circle, there is one, it just doesn't exist forever. from an outside view(that view being M) starting a circle one would have to make a completed loop, from start to finish. once that happens the beginning becomes near impossible to find unless you were there from the start.

hey john do you think that the origins crew remembers all that they have been through in bo3. hence how there were different scenes in takeos memories. good job on the videos and keep it up

How do you get into a round about? You simply... begin

On November 16, 2015 you had said that when a dimension is destroyed that it will leak into another dimension such as your example with mob of the dead leaking into "The Giant" when the mob of the dead plane is on the roof. "If the mob of the dead dimension leaked into the giant then where are the mob of the dead characters?"

The voice on the TV sounds a bit like the leader of the enclave from fallout 3

i think that after the war ended the zombies started roaming peleliu island (nacht opening) to find out that four soldiers that were thought to be dead after supposedly being knocked out for a long time

Dr. Monty sounds like president Eden from Fallout 3

Guys it starts of at Der Riese thats when Samantha was sent to the moon by force and then she wanted revenge on the crew.

Literally every theory video now has this background music

Perhaps the corruption of the keepers into apothecons? That seems like the source of all the conflict

I think it was when the guy dies from the fire in a see through box when mason tries to save him in black ops 1 campaign. But it has nothing to do with the 115,915,935

Jason Blundell should write an article or make a video that completely explains everything about the zombies storyline from WaW to BO3

Is it just me or does he play five alot

one of the marines in nacht is Dempsey with a diffrent voice actor

It started on nacht der untoten but maxis and richtofen were experimenting with all of it and it became into monsters amd demons

one thing you missed was when Dr Monty CREATED Element 115.

my one and only question in the zombies storyline is how is element 115 in every zombie universe we know of so far?

The electric zombies from origins are wearing the same suit as them.

Johny do you think there is going to be a dlc 5 adn if so do you think the new map would be when they back to the crusades?

4:41 Me every time I play

1:29 1943 that looks like a crazy place portal and there's the numbers from black ops 1

Hmmm interesting

Seems that the story line has the Bootstrap Paradox somewhere in it

In W@W haven’t you noticed in the campaign level black cat you get shot down and the level ends there and in zombies you wake up and see a crashed burning plane🤔

Jon why do you think doctor monty samantha and a keeper are in the new loading screen at the end of the second comic

people said that in nacht der untoten that the plane that crashed is carrying element 115 and it crashed of course and the element 115 over the whole area but i think maybe its origin

What if it is pulling a flash season 3, one large thing sets off the whole entire story changing it as it is. So if you find the loop, or the major change and change it, it will set off a million different possibilities

could it be that Tunguska is the glowing object in the forest and that they are waiting in a Pine Forest in Siberia near the site of the meteor?

the beginning is origins where group 935 mined a new element i.e. element 115 mined that unleashed a ancient evil i.e. the zombies but the survivors of the massacre tried to fight back and when they did they got teleported. and take a look at the energy sucking zombies, they are wearing the armor that is similar to the primis photo, how they have the staffs is there were 4 original heros and it makes sense that they buried it with there coffins, i.e. the primis statues you see in the staff room. now i know its a stretch but the primis statues are the original heros coffins and the staffs were a srine to them and they got separated by element 115, so in origins they are at there youngest and origins is the beginning

Question: Jonny in shadows of evil why are there writings on the doors of the portals

Mabie the four soldiers were the group that went to verdict and Dempsey was one of them and were tested on by group 935

God damn so many plot twists

There's a beginning because what demo taus saying is that teleport era were invented in the original 115 universe and my guess is that the teleporters can teleport things from universe to universe and the same thing happened with element 115

Hey john one question I have is who's really controlling the zombies in shadows of evil luv your vids A++

The begging is the end of the zombies story line FOR EVER! It has to be

Okay so interesting and well made point but consider this: if the group are in an infinite loop, something must have caused that loop to occur so my question is what was the cause that made the effect (the loop) happen? Was it Origins? If so this then suggests that if Origins had not happened there would be no infinite loop, therefore no zombies storyline. Can we therefore say that the original "pen to paper" as I like to call it (in this idea Monty creates the circle) therefore the start of the circle is Origins? I would say this conclusion is the most likely.

this video was posted on my birthday🎉🎊

A circle has to have a centre point without that there's no circle there for there is one point in the loop that every thing is set in motion by

115 is a song, msde by elaina seigman, does group 115 relate to elaina siegman, or her relatives?

But technically since maxis was hearing sam’s voice from the original story before meddling with 115 even origins isn’t really the start because the sam maxis hears is the same sam whom maxis tried to reunite with in BO2 so I really say shi no numa was the start

What about the start of when they get into the loop of zombies

its sad to see all the ogs quit...

the beginning is where the circle starts to be drawn

Maybe Mob will be where the crew learns to "Break the Cycle"

in der reise it says "where it all started"??? o. 0

Early hi you are the best

If there stuck in a loop the story would most logically begin when there born because there actions as kids would effect there actions as adults and so cause the whole story to unfold

It’s scary that element 115 is a real thing

Anyone notice Dr. Monty in Ascension? hmm? he's there.

So how did did all character met and worked with each other what's they story line? Like only time we saw them met was in orgins

Wait a minute you forgot one thing how did the element get to there dimension? It must've started off in a totally different dimension and they happened to send it off to a different dimension because maybe there universe had an outbreak from the element