The True Price Of Concussion In Rugby | Beyond 80 | Sports Documentary

The True Price Of Concussion In Rugby | Beyond 80 | Sports Documentary | RugbyPass

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4 жыл бұрын

In a new RugbyPass series, ‘Beyond 80’ takes an unflinching look at the reality of concussion in rugby. ‘Knocked’ sees a cast of players, referees, medical experts and stakeholders from the sport, give a unique insight into the condition and what’s being done to raise awareness in the game.
Filmed across Europe over a four-month period, Knocked features several former and current internationals including Jamie Cudmore (Canada), Sam Underhill & Kat Merchant (England) Kevin McLaughlin & Lynne Cantwell (Ireland), Adam Hughes & Ben John (Wales) and Dan Leo (Samoa), who discuss their experiences with concussion.
Knocked also features interviews with RFU Medical Services Director Dr. Simon Kemp and neuropathologist Professor Michael Farrell, as well as lawyer Tim O’Connor and journalist Sam Peters. The world’s top referee Nigel Owens adds his thoughts to the debate, while concussion awareness advocate Peter Robinson speaks about the deadly effects of concussion and the need to drip feed constant information to the public to avoid more tragedies. #RugbyPassOriginals
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@danielhurst4744 4 жыл бұрын

I hope that this gets to be seen by as many fans and players of the sport as possible - education is paramount in this field if the game is to continue in a manner close to how we love it.....

@simonfrankish7404 4 жыл бұрын

Such a good video. Why don't we refer to these as 'brain injuries' and not 'head injuries'. Less palatable but more accurate.

@robertpearce8262 3 жыл бұрын

This happened in the Nations Cup recently in the Wales vs Georgia match - the commentator commented on Justin Tipuric's "brain injury" after he was knocked out. A step in the right direction for sure

@LM-dd9fe 2 жыл бұрын

This documentary should be mandatory to be seen by everyone involved in rugby: players, coaches, parents, fans...

@jaybone8617 3 жыл бұрын

Just watched this video and it hit home, hard. Had numerous concussions before, but got knocked out 20 mins into a club game 6 years ago. When I regained consciousness, I couldn't say my own name, what day it was, or where I was; In fact, I couldn't speak at all for a few minutes. No one took responsibility for me and took me off the pitch. I played the full 80 mins and have had post-concussion syndrome ever since. A player, in the situation I was in, cannot make an informed decision about their own well-being; that responsibility belongs to the ref, AR, coaches, medics, and physios. Those 60 mins have cost me 6 years so far. If only a person in a position of authority made a decision that was in my best interest that day. If you're involved in the sport, then be that person. Be the person that makes a decision in the best interest of rugby player who can't make a decision for themselves.

@glstone1966 4 жыл бұрын

A very proud and brave parent His last statement from a man who lost his son People will always want to play rugby The biggest risk in rugby isn’t concussion it’s the miss management of it Respect and Love

@mollers92 3 жыл бұрын

No, I'm pretty sure it's still the concussion

@jep1912 2 жыл бұрын

Wrong.... it's simply all about the in-game collision count... and it's massive. Once it's happened, the aftercare is absolutely irrelevant.

@glstone1966 2 жыл бұрын

We’re not going to stop the collision in our sport, with new laws and tackle safety Paramount let’s all hope the risks of concussions falls .How do we stop the collisions ?. Just stop playing,,,,.every sports has a risk of injury,,, should we stop all sport. Better coaching and better prevention with new laws and regulations and also better awareness is the only way to reduce the chance of concussion

@callumsmaile8815 4 жыл бұрын

The increase in the size of players is a major contributing factor. Since Rugby became professional the average weight of a player has increased massively. More weight means more force and acceleration, it’s only going to end one way

@tanderson596 4 жыл бұрын

Wow. Peter Robinson's words at the end really hit me. "The biggest risk in rugby isn't concussion, it's the mismanagement of it." Rugby is blessed to have him share his son's story with us to educate people. This documentary needs to be seen by as many rugby players, supporters, parents and coaches, at all levels of the game, as possible.

@bentheboyo05 2 жыл бұрын

I played hooker for approx 20yrs from being 9yrs old. I was so proud to play at county level for the last 4yrs of my amateur career and loved every second of it. Fast forward a few years post retirement from the game and I’ve had two knee replacements, suffer with chronic back pain, riddled with arthritis and waiting for shoulder surgery as I type this. However the biggest problem I have is my memory. I struggle so much to remember really daft things and it drives me crazy. I’m scared, I’m aware of what’s happening and there’s nothing I can do to stop it. I just wish I knew then what I know now and unfortunately I feel that I’m on my own to deal with this as the sport I love and gave my life to doesn’t seem to offer any support for ex amateur players like myself. My son has naturally followed in my footsteps and is playing as well now, he’s only 12yrs old but I’m so fearful of him being affected the way I am but equally I’d never deny him the privilege of playing the greatest sport in the world and making the strong bonds that rugby offers us. Given the chance I’d play again tomorrow, unfortunately I’m in agony physically and mentally on a daily basis and it does terrify me thinking what state I will be in 5-10yrs time. Please please look after yourselves when playing and know when to back out, this isn’t a test run, we only get one chance at life.

@sheldonboshoff6441 Жыл бұрын

This was a remarkable documentary about concussions in rugby. I agree that the main focus should not be placed on changing rugby to reduce concussions. It should be placed on increasing the level of awareness regarding the seriousness of concussions and it is our moral duty of spreading the word to stop/prevent incidents like Benjamin's in the world of rugby.

@jamesnield 4 жыл бұрын

As a junior rugby coach, I am well aware of the head case initiative, but documentaries such as this really hammer home how important it is.

@snowyrichmond5445 4 жыл бұрын

The collision that sticks in my mind the most was during the Lions Tour of Oz, Richie Hibbard and George Smiths head on Head. The impact was stunning, George was out cold for a bit, could barely walk off the field, 5 mins later he comes back on and the commentator said “he so tough etc etc” We need to draw that line between toughness and safety where head injuries are concerned. He should never have been allowed back on the pitch. Are the HIA assessing medical team part of the players teams medical staff, as for me this is a conflict of interests and it should all be done by an independent doctor who can make an assessment without the pressure of being part of the same club and wanting success.

@cag221 4 жыл бұрын

This is what they do in the NFL. IF there is any sign of a head collision an independent medical official evaluates the player. He then makes the decision if the player can continue or if he has a failed his assessment. which is tough when you lose a starting QB but the players safety must come first.

@secondchance4498 4 жыл бұрын

It is done by an independent doctor/medic (as well as team doctor/medic) that also reviews impacts via TMO should he/she have doubt post seeing it live.

@alistairclifton1286 4 жыл бұрын

CJ Stander on Pat Lambie....essentially ended Lambie's career kzfaq.info/get/bejne/et2SidarxJ-Zppc.html

@alistairclifton1286 4 жыл бұрын

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@girth3850 3 жыл бұрын

People really act like helmets make the head injuries go away, but they actually made it worse. The helmet only prevents skull injuries, it doesn’t do a thing to protect concussions. I’ve had a few big concussions, and they always happened when I used my head as a weapon. I always thought that since I had the helmet the hits I took weren’t a big deal. Finding out all of this is scary Considering I’ve taken hits like this all my life

@snowyrichmond5445 4 жыл бұрын

I’m impressed with the use of Jamie Cudmore in this video. He is the type of player you don’t want to play against at all. “ Nicknamed 'Cuddles' by his teammates, he has a less than exemplary disciplinary record. Between 2005 and 2011 he accumulated 21 yellow cards and 3 red cards. That doesn't include citings and suspensions. ” But from a man who used to be an enforcer for drug dealers, he obviously realised rugby would change his life and admits it, I’m impressed, he speaks so well and calmly.

@aaronkeane2336 4 жыл бұрын

I think his case highlights why education for anyone playing is important not just for their own safety but their prospective opposition's safety. Cudmore has dished out a lot of nasty hits during his career. It sounds like he has only recently become properly educated on the issue of concussion after experiencing the effects himself. I wonder if he had been aware of this from the start of his playing days would he have the same disciplinary record. Some of these guys are incredibly powerful and need to be aware of the potential harm they can cause if they don't act responsibly on the pitch. It's good to see that he is now doing his bit to try to promote awareness of the issue.

@tommulders 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic content. Very impressive. I was lucky that my short term memory came back (as far as I can tell..), but it took 4 years. Played Hooker for years, and always stuck my head into every ruck and mail, with lots of enthusiasm.

@n-knights9321 4 жыл бұрын

I used to show off about the concussions that I had and how I got them. I felt it was a bit of a badge of honour for what I had done for my team/school. I'm definitely not proud anymore.

@royesiku6236 3 жыл бұрын

I understood this on so many levels..

@webdesigngc 3 жыл бұрын

Dear Mr Robinson, your story has been passed to my son (15yr old Welsh-Maori living in Australia). As a budding young Rugby player, I hope that he will take the warnings you, et al have passed on to the next generation. This will mean that Ben's accident was not in vain. As a father, I cannot begin to imagine what you went through and am deeply sorry for your loss sir. rip Ben.

@dominicredfern5090 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant documentary. "Ben's story isn't a positive story but it could be.....He is one of our own." What amazing magnanimity from Ben Robertson's dad. His son's legacy could be no less than safeguarding the future of the game. Rugby is truly blessed to have people with this kind of heart and generosity in its family.

@duckiflyerz8637 4 жыл бұрын

Some sports are tough like rugby, cricket, motoracing, boxing etc it’s been that way for many a year. You can make them safer though you’ll never make them totally safe without losing what makes them so appealing the danger

@malteofit 4 жыл бұрын

the documentary took so much pressure of my shoulders. I broke my shoulder and got a concussion while tackling a tackle shield and I was to proud to admit it. I tried to get back on the field for 2 years and since then never really recovered I feel dizzy sometimes and got way more emotional than I used to. But im doing Grappling now and starting to get more flexible again and in all my body starts do loose up. I never loved anything more than playing rugby but concussions are something you can't fight with hard work.

@tanderson596 4 жыл бұрын

Wishing you all the best with your recovery.

@aidankearney493 4 ай бұрын

It is so important that all of us who have a vested interest and involvement in the game see this video. Mismanagement is the issue.

@timd1809 4 жыл бұрын

Quality content again, thanks!

@michaelharrison5564 4 жыл бұрын

Really interesting and eye opening stuff, thanks rugby pass

@gerryrowe6389 4 жыл бұрын

Great content, very revealing,scary and poignant,must watch for people,fans and players alike

@simonsmith9363 4 жыл бұрын

Different types of concussion rings a personal bell; Waking up on the pitch and not knowing who or where you are is scary, I had to look at my strip to see who I was playing for. Then being wobbly after contact with no loss of consciousness and the final one for me was the headache after heavy head contact in the front row. Fascinating video! Forgot to say, my experiences are from the 1980's.

@Sig4ty 4 жыл бұрын

Such Films are probably more important than every other Sport educational Movies out there. Safety First... everything else second. Like Nigel said, your life is a one-timer. Great content Guys!

@arianahelvie5033 4 жыл бұрын

This is why contact with the head is a red card offence.

@cre2763 4 жыл бұрын

Traumatic brain injury/concussion can still occur without head contact though. It certainly helps to have this rule but it doesn't prevent many TBI's.

@jordannangwala4608 4 жыл бұрын

True cause a concussion happens when the brain hits the inner skull

@lliamq12 4 жыл бұрын

The only times I've ever been concussed was from tackling low, knee height. Now I'm not disagreeing with you that head contact should (and is) a red card offence, but the lowering of tackles to hip height will simply not work.

@DJ-ce3hq 4 жыл бұрын

CRE yes, but the rate of concussions has gone down with this rule

@DJ-ce3hq 4 жыл бұрын

Lliam Quarm yes it will, it already has partly worked, hasn’t stopped all concussions. But, stops more than would happen

@peteradams8500 4 жыл бұрын

Please share - an important subject for all sports, not just rugby. The overriding message of awareness leading to the right course of action is something we can all contribute to as players, coaches, refs and spectators at any level, adult or kids. Thank you for producing this. I’ve seen the Headcase leaflets, dealt with concussions for others and myself but this really brought it home. Not from a fear and awe perspective, but from the practical contribution I can make to ensuring that we do the right thing whilst continuing to enjoy the activities we love. Now have a few messages to get out there with this link.

@sevensevenalways7995 4 жыл бұрын

Took a head knock yesterday tackling in an amateur game. No symptoms at the time so I played on. Today I've had a mild headache all day. This is making me question if I'm good for next weekend...

@toniocartonio572 4 жыл бұрын

The protocol says that you should wait at least 12-14 days and come back gradually to daily activities

@sevensevenalways7995 4 жыл бұрын

@Tonio Cartonio I know what the protocol is. What I'm trying to express is the difficulty in knowing whether I was actually concussed, or if my headache is unrelated. It just highlights the fact that we don't have adequate technology to evaluate minor brain injuries at this time.

@heniemess 4 жыл бұрын

@@sevensevenalways7995 Should be fine.

@heniemess 4 жыл бұрын

@@toniocartonio572 The protocol is 14 days rest for U19 and 7 for adults

@snowyrichmond5445 4 жыл бұрын

Question 1, how many pints did you have after the game? If more than 4, I’m going with that, but why take the risk for 1 game?!?!?

@ciarancosgrave 3 жыл бұрын

There needs to be a shift away from size and power and brute force in favour of a move towards flair, speed and evasion.

@jep1912 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder what the true extent is, of playing rugby at school as boys, returning to haunt as concussion-based early onset dementia in later life? Couple that with the huge alcohol culture of players, could it be more damaging in terms of overall nationwide numbers than first thought?

@meninbike1602 4 жыл бұрын

Great content, need to be spread

@jojaham 4 жыл бұрын

This video is so eye opening. I'm a second year sport psychology student and because of this documentary and a film called concussion, I am keen to do my dissertation next year on the mental health and long term impacts of concussions. I hope this topic gets more awareness in rugby and all sports

@lewisthornton3 Жыл бұрын

How did it go ?

@kevinbaxter7390 3 жыл бұрын

As a player for 40yrs this is a close to my heart Off course the power’s that be need to study all the reports regarding brain injuries But I certainly don’t know what can be done to make this sport any safer Its envolved players are more powerful stronger and fitter.

@TJC-ob4hy 4 жыл бұрын

Should have gotten Pat Lambie on this

@alexgilchrist4666 4 жыл бұрын

Really good documentary

@Scott101ish101 3 жыл бұрын

I would have liked to have heard whether any of the ex-rugby players in the video who mentioned that they had knocks to the head and concussions during their career had any long term negative effects on their brain function as a result. I don’t think that was mentioned.

@seamusconlan9673 Жыл бұрын

The human body is not a machine it's time to reimagine the modern game of rugby for future generations.

@garfieldbraithwaite8590 3 жыл бұрын

Jamie Cudmore’s story is chilling

@DigitalB11 3 жыл бұрын

Such a good documentary. Surely the doctor who told Jamie Cudmore to go back on against Wasps should be struck-off?! Presumably this was a Claremont Auvergne doc. No way he should be telling a player who’s failed a HIA test to go back on. 😡 Also, the PE teachers involved in the Benjamin Robinson match should be looking at manslaughter or gross negligence charges! 😡

@pauloliver1842 4 жыл бұрын

i suffered many concussions as a youth player .. and i do feel this affected me as a adult ... please tweet this out

@ben-jam-in6941 Жыл бұрын

I’ve had far too many concussions myself from American football, wakeboarding (yes water will knock you out and I think is my worst), and at least 2 bad run ins with cattle working for my family business. The strangest was during spring training for high school football. I got hit twice almost at the same time and both were hard helmet to helmet impacts. The second player tackling me knocked me into slow motion both visually and all sounds. It lasted about 5 min or so before time came back at full speed. The coaches just said good job and get back in the next training exercise. That was around the year 2000 so things have changed since then. It’s scary just thinking about the future. Time will tell.

@michaeldavies5840 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant documentary & I would recommend anyone to watch it. I sustained a concussion 12 months ago and still suffer from the side effects. And it’s all because I’ve had so many “minor” ones over the years. That me out from playing for good now at 28 (27 at the time)

@A-Wa 3 жыл бұрын

I had a car accident with a concussion and still suffer after 2 years. I cant imagine how it is with rugbys repetitive concussions

@archington1851 2 жыл бұрын

What are the Symptoms that you still have ?

@michaeldavies5840 2 жыл бұрын

@@archington1851 headaches lasted 18months. It’s been 3 years and I still struggle when there’s lots of noise/lights. For example last night with work we went bowling, really struggled. Concentration span isn’t the best, stress boil over point appears quicker. Mainly a lot of personality traits seem to suffer in the long term

@YTho-ev1ej 4 жыл бұрын

I hate the way WR regulates the game to prevent concussions. They keep changing the rules to punish the tackler when in actual fact tackling and cleaning our rucks is by far the worst for head and neck. I play grade club rugby and concussions are by far most common to tacklers. I rarely ever see ball carriers get concussed

@bribri5458 4 жыл бұрын

Ten years ago playing age grade rugby it was almost seemed as a symbol of commitment that you received a head knock. Putting your body on the line and taking one for the team was seen as doing well. Obviously back then the information about head injuries wasn’t as wide spread in the amateur game and coaches and parents had no idea of the potential consequences. It’s definitely something that makes me question whether I should keep on playing the game now in my mid 20’s because of a history of concussion. The benefit of all of the information being more accessible these days is that if it is seen on the pitch the attitude now is to take the player off without question (which is a big step forward to begin with). Only problem is as players are getting bigger, stronger and faster it seems as if these injuries may become more severe. Sounds radical but maybe the game needs to drop the number of players on the pitch to say 12 instead of 15? Thus creating more space on the field, placing more emphasis on cardiovascular fitness and less need for size and strength to have as much influence on the game as it does. As the game has changed so much over the professional years maybe it’s time certain rules are put in place to facilitate the future of the sport.

@shandyrew9593 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve had 4-6 concussions and I’m only 15, 3 of them severe. Still playing rugby and still going strong. Make sure to follow the return to play protocol accordingly and correctly. Don’t let one knock stop you, keep pushing. Stay resilient and stay strong

@Mad_Intalect 4 жыл бұрын

Good luck in your 30's lol,

@A-Wa 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry to say this but your brain doesn’t recover like muscles. It doesnt matter if you stop for 3 weeks or 3 months. A damage is a damage.

@shandyrew9593 3 жыл бұрын

I’m now 16 and still feeling fine , gone a year w out any concussions and feel no different. Damage is damage yes but everything gets better, u can recover from anything

@shandyrew9593 3 жыл бұрын

@@solofaces7255 I haven’t played rugby in ages due to covid and kind of low-key falling out of love for the sport, I’ve remained uninjured since commenting 1 year ago and I’m healthy , I have been to numerous hospital appointments and have asked about the long term affects and they have told me not to worry about it and it’s okay for me to continue to play, they say to not do boxing which was what I wanted to do for a period of time but didn’t because I listen to my gps. I am reassured that there will be no long terms affects and that I can continue to play

@stevenmcalister826 3 жыл бұрын

You’ll be feeling the results of those concussions when you’re older.

@134BrothersMusic 3 жыл бұрын

Rugby doesn't like Ben's story, but he's one of their own. MATE. FUCKING MATE. That hits home. R.I.P Ben, you sounded like a very tenacious rugby player. You may save hundreds of lives from this information and your dad sharing your story. PS. Anyone who saw this video should look at the way Melbourne storm handled Harry Grant in last rounds match against the Sydney Roosters in the Australian NATIONAL RUGBY LEAGUE (NRL) Harry Grant was knocked completely unconscious, stiff and they let him play. PATHETIC.

@big-papa-jimmysavillekiddy2181 4 жыл бұрын

From self experience getting concussion in rugby is awful but it’s a contact sport and people need to realise that it’s not all rainbows and sunshine there will and should always be pain in such a sport , I do think there should be HIA but no element of contact should be removed.

@tomdillon579 4 жыл бұрын

that’s a young sam underhill!

@JustinRSoles 4 жыл бұрын

This isn't an old video though..

@daikayll1897 4 жыл бұрын

Typical rugby dad. Brave , measured and intelligent. Sorry about your lad. Thinking of you.

@leightongalvin1845 3 жыл бұрын

Yep definitely paying the price for playing the game I love, shit load of concussions or knock outs had to stop for 1 year coz my head would spin just from lying down, don't think I've ever been my normal self since 30 years later

@patrickmccutcheon9361 2 жыл бұрын

Watching this two years on, I take my hat off for referees who have the courage to red card players who continue to hit opponents on the head when tackling or hitting rucks. Unfortunately there are still pundits who think this is part of the game and criticise the referees for enforcing the rules.

@hblazza 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting documentary, but why not show the clips of the incidents the players are explaining? Would be so much better to have some clips to break up the talking.

@andrewboot6331 4 жыл бұрын

The 15 pints of Guiness they down afterwards probably don't help either.

@gregj7916 4 жыл бұрын

always wondered what happened to the ivory coast player who became paralyzed at the 95 world cup.....

@markwillies4330 3 жыл бұрын

I read in one of the online rugby mags a commented attributed to Warburton the ex Welsh captain and playing. Apparently he said he didnt know that one could be concussed without getting knocked unconscious. This is nonsense as a schoolboy in Durban, South Africa in 1977 I suffered a wack to my pip.The Doc said there was a hairline fracture plus i had suffered concussion.I was never knocked out.I knew this 40 years ago as a boy. What rugby players are suffering from now is a more insidious phenomenon along the lines of the movie with Will Smith in Concussion re American Football. Professionalism in rugby has just rocketed this to an almost vertical problem as depicted on a graph.

@rem6363 4 жыл бұрын

Oh no I can’t watch this too devastating...

@jep1912 4 жыл бұрын

Precisely why you 'should' watch it.

@YTho-ev1ej 4 жыл бұрын

WR continues to lower the tackling height. This has the opposite effect as for tacklers get concussed as their head is placed in a vulnerable position. Concussions happen FAR MORE when tackling, not get tackled. WR is not only ruining the game, but making it more dangerous

@olliewills1227 4 жыл бұрын

i think the stats on injury rates would argue otherwise.

@patrickmccutcheon9361 2 жыл бұрын

Lowering the tackle height whereby you have to tackle below the shoulders would make it easier for players to offload in the tackle. Tacklers can get hurt if their technique is not right but the players being tackled are spared the hits to the head that are the main issue.

@miguelangel3254 3 жыл бұрын

29:10 that's a man, that's having balls, almost everyone blaming someone else

@cricketpunisher6082 4 жыл бұрын

Extremely hard to watch, great doco

@opwoyajesse4910 4 жыл бұрын

in school concussions were a thing to brag about especially if it was after taking a massive hit and stopping a bigger man i remember losing vision for 4 hours one time

@Waywind420 3 жыл бұрын

12:58 reece hodge ? :o

@samturnau6086 3 жыл бұрын

I played rugby for years . Had multiple concussions and injuries . I suffer dearly from my concussions

@danielprose5878 7 ай бұрын

Also mood and psych Problems?

@yoe91 3 жыл бұрын

Medic: Alright that's it for you today, off we go, come on. Player: Pfff whaaaaat ? I'm fine, get outta here ! Medic: John, I'm holding your head in a plastic bag. We've really got to get off the pitch. Player: Pffffffff whatever...

@guillaumelecam6257 2 жыл бұрын

The green t shirt Guy is absolutely massive

@jep1912 4 жыл бұрын

Just take a look at Doddie Weir or Rob Burrows... and no further explanation is needed.

@rdcanyon 4 жыл бұрын

Bingo - the link between mnd and CTE isn't made clear esp the media

@daikayll1897 4 жыл бұрын

Longer grass on ALL pitches. Better cushioning on body and head. Also will slow players down as the game goes on. Then stop the rediculous miss use of substitutes. Way way too many. Then come the last 20 mins the game will change again in teams managing fatigue. Instead of just chucking 7 or 8 subs on after an hour !

@deficator750 3 жыл бұрын

They should also check out pointy noses

@mechanickiwi4116 2 жыл бұрын

I think I will chase a ball around a field smashing into other people, because that's what I like to do, but if I get a brain injury I will plead ignorance and blame everyone else.

@andrewturner5449 3 жыл бұрын

When a 200mph formular 1 one car crashed and burst into flames and the driver walked away with minor injuries and a rugby player tackles a man and dies through head injury .Rugby needs to wake up and take care of its players and players need to take care of themselves.All thia macho bullshit will just get you hurt and that wiill hurt the people that love you.

@julianalderson6996 4 жыл бұрын

i agree" its a risk' but ya gota do what ya love doin to" but yer its not good for ya'

@johnfletcher9907 4 жыл бұрын

Fuck me this is brilliant

@leelee6000 4 жыл бұрын

Fuck yeah it is

@ricardosauer1925 4 жыл бұрын

How many rugbiers have cte? In argentina nowbody talk about cte and rugby. I dont know, maybe rugby is not so dangerous like american football. I dont know.

@agt155 4 жыл бұрын

Trying to push this notion that as long as you're taken off and rested following a concussion everything will be fine is delusional. Take some lessons from boxing - licenses, brainscans and forced retirements.

@rdcanyon 4 жыл бұрын

They all genuinely think a bit of rest and the brain recovers 100%. This is just plain wrong. Only way to protect the player is not to play.

@onionerror4042 4 жыл бұрын

Ryan Sharp that’s why I took 3 months off

@papaluskask999 3 жыл бұрын

Concussion need to be taken more seriously , brain injuries in boxing has been long known. What are precautions of concussion that are taking boxing, that can be implemented in rugby? UFC stop fighters that are dazed not KO'D, players with suspicion of concussion should be removed from field?

@NZAnimeManga 4 жыл бұрын

Horrific story... Poor Ben...

@julianalderson6996 4 жыл бұрын

specially if ya a dad' cos they need ya

@alphalunamare 4 жыл бұрын

43:44 Here is a classic example of for why Coaches should think twice about letting a concussed player play on : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j5dybJCZxp24gGQ.html

@julianalderson6996 3 жыл бұрын

good call" mental healths the same, considered weak" f..k that rugbys great game an dont wana c players strugglin from brain injuries specially as they get older"

@bythedog 3 жыл бұрын

15:45

@rossfionadevlin8878 3 жыл бұрын

Public health issue! Awesome

@thomascurtil9087 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I have made 2 big concussion in rugby it’s not funny. When I see somebody like dan biggar during the last World Cup who was in the quarter final after 2 massive ko something isn’t normal the Welsh staff are completely irresponsible.

@Chronicheartbeat 3 жыл бұрын

Well its all kicked off now.

@beatonthedonis 4 жыл бұрын

The Wales management and medical team are very bad on this.

@davidrobertthomas1515 4 жыл бұрын

It will be interesting whether Dan Bigger will be allowed to play next Saturday.

@sage6336 4 жыл бұрын

can rugby just carry on without changing anything?

@ObnoxiousOtter8 4 жыл бұрын

What are you asking here? Do you mean ‘is it possible for rugby to carry on without changing anything’ or ‘can rugby please carry on without changing anything’

@benbatty4934 4 жыл бұрын

You try getting injured so much that you can’t hold your 3 year old daughter

@carwyngriffiths 4 жыл бұрын

ben batty the players know the risk and yet they still decide to play

@whereasthepeople27 3 жыл бұрын

Ben was let down by his training staff. Appalling

@NoName-hg6cc 8 ай бұрын

What can we do? What are the options? Ban rugby? Making concussed players forcibly take 3 to 5 days off?

@GhostCyro 3 ай бұрын

Doesn't matter if you take 5 days off from concussion,Damage is damage

@NoName-hg6cc 3 ай бұрын

@@GhostCyro Damage heal, concussion doesn't mean brain damage but it could lead to it if not careful

@Mersty. 4 жыл бұрын

I hate to mention it but George North needs to retire. Now.

@lungabiyela9081 4 жыл бұрын

One way to combat the issue of head injuries is to force everyone to wear scrumcaps. Remember years ago when helmets were optional in cricket, then someone realised, "hey, if a ball hits you on the head, it's tickets." Someone in rugby should realise that a knock on the head could be tickets. Make scrumcaps compulsory for every player. It's time to end this "macho man" crap where players who want to be safe are ridiculed and called pansies. Seriously. The wellbeing of players should come first and not their fragile masculinity.

@patreardon8048 3 жыл бұрын

Not convinced scrum hats combat concussion. The brain shuddering inside the skull on impact isn't reduced by a thin layer of foam.

@A-Wa 3 жыл бұрын

Curly Watts you are right. Thats why american football players still suffer concussion and cte

@stevenmcalister826 3 жыл бұрын

Scrum caps do nothing to help prevent brain injuries.

@lungabiyela9081 3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenmcalister826 Yeah, seat belts don't always prevent death either.

@stevenmcalister826 3 жыл бұрын

@@lungabiyela9081 Not comparable, scrum caps were never designed to prevent concussions. They only try and prevent or lessen effects of cuts to the head. Or prevent cauliflower ears.

@TheInnovationShow 4 жыл бұрын

This is covered on The Innovation Show with Daniel Amen here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rZecdbxm2dayZqs.html

@iamnutty8471 Жыл бұрын

as sad as it is, player recognized it was a contact sport, did they all wear the headgear that was available ? probably not , is it fair to sue world rugby probably not!

@tazwildcat7 4 жыл бұрын

so now what do muslce athletes do. lewis moody, corry, haskell, richie mccaw, ray lewis luke kluckly mike singltary, jions gangs, be generals. i myself want to be general or cia james bond and start armgedon i want war, 2 reasons. im as good linbacker de and rugby flanker as anyone now they cant play. 2nd china islanders yakuyza took away my chance i want war w them. so now we all die as now 1/2 of nfl and rugby players have no dream. why would a flanker want play ruygby or forward. same w nfl no linbackers just slow safeties. were all going to die. true china war we all die. veitnam was china we all die 99pct of us

@chrisrichards-edwards6523 3 жыл бұрын

Rugby has gone soft. Minimal of these HI’s stem from supposed high/dangerous tackles. Handing out cards just ruins the game for everyone and does nothing to protect the players.

@stevenmcalister826 3 жыл бұрын

It prevents players from being reckless as they will learn the consequences for it are harsh.