The Truth About Cheap Motorcycle Levers | Sportbike Track Gear
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5 жыл бұрынThe Truth About Cheap Motorcycle Levers
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There are many places to save money on your track bike but levers, and any of your controls in general, are not one of those places. There's a couple of things on this motorcycle that if they let you down, if they fail, if they're a poor quality or poor design and there's an issue with it, you could have a really big problem that could cause serious injury or worse.
This all started when one of our good customers purchased a set of Spiegler brake lines for his 2017 Yamaha R6. He watched my kick-ass install video and installed the brake lines on his bike, went for a ride, and the brakes locked up on him. He left a comment on the install video for help on fixing the problem. After reaching out to him, we were eventually able to determine the cause of the problem, which were the cheap aftermarket levers he installed on the bike. He agreed to send the levers over to us so we could get a look at them.
This video isn't an ad for CRG, we just want to point out some of the differences in a quality name brand lever versus a cheap no-name lever that you find on eBay or Amazon. Let us know what you think. Tell us what kind of levers you use, and if you've had any experience with any of these cheep levers.
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@mikefandango3343 5 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndN_idOlqb23gHk.html this shows what happens, thanks for the info great video .
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you crashed man. Thank you for taking the time to share the video, this will help others (well at least the ones smart enough to understand we a just trying to educate them) from having a similar experience. - Van
@mikefandango3343 5 жыл бұрын
Sportbike Track Gear Sorry I don’t want to mislead you, it wasn’t me in the Video. It belongs to someone called Cory. He put up such a good description of what caused the crash and it’s basically what you are stating! His and your video has stopped me buying cheap aftermarket levers.There is also a crash of someone on a track day, in the UK going flat Out, the front wheel locks and he totals the bike but walks away.If it had been on the streets I’m sure he would be dead.
@ryanzepp9185 4 жыл бұрын
Lol that dude just grabbed the front brake riding one handed
@surronzak8154 3 жыл бұрын
@@sportbiketrackgear So must this thing move or not, the guy in the vid says he crashed because it was moving ..
@bobbymalta73 2 жыл бұрын
Thks For Sharing mate!
@blue03r6 5 жыл бұрын
your shirt must have high quality buttons
@frankgonzales7923 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@declanmoran1894 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣
@tomdickharryjane 3 жыл бұрын
HAHA!!!
@maximusmax4557 3 жыл бұрын
Don't sneeze.
@queenbee7074 3 жыл бұрын
Bahahhaha stop it
@BustahNutt 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve never had 1 single issue from the eBay levers and I’ve bought like 3 sets for my R6. The only downside is that the black fades into this gold-ish color. I won’t be suckered into spending $100+ for some levers. They shouldn’t cost that much. Everyone has different experiences and opinions about the “good stuff”. I’ll stick with my eBay levers and spend the $80-$90 I saved by not buying ASV levers on something else.
@user-cg9vp9bf5d 5 жыл бұрын
yea, something else like your hospital bills once the lever suddenly stops functioning
@BustahNutt 5 жыл бұрын
Xta-C Dummy. They work fine and will continue to do so.
@user-cg9vp9bf5d 5 жыл бұрын
And that was the last thing RAD Chili ever said before he ran through a busy intersection and got trampled by a semi. According to authorities, cause of fatality was traced down to brake failure.
@robzillagarage 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-cg9vp9bf5d I'll just tag in.. I have these exact levers in the video and unless theres a new design they dont have this problem his speaking of.. no binding the pin lock thing his talking about is free an loose...
@Csikter 5 жыл бұрын
@@robzillagarage but now we know what problems could arise from the Chinese levers. Only thing that needs to be done is test it out and see if it binds or not. If it does, tell the seller it's crap and you get your money back (if you buy it on aliexpress). No harm done. You can do this until you get a fully functioning one. That's it.
@bretgin 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting this out there. My front wheel almost locked up after installing a set of these cheap levers. There are videos on KZfaq of crashes caused by these levers. Not worth it. Brian is spot on.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and thanks for watching! - Van
@christopherdonlick9119 2 жыл бұрын
if your brakes locked up after you installed aftermarket levers, its probably because you installed them incorrectly.
@adriantroalic9298 2 жыл бұрын
I've installed cnc levers from China on my gen 1 fazer 1000, not an ounce of problems at all, and as to the allowed movement of the pin on the end of the clutch and brake cables, I've messed around with bike ones, they don't move, they're not supposed to move, why would you want them to move??? That's just gives another strain point on the cable, it needs to be rigid
@alejandrotobienne8220 Жыл бұрын
Your a moroon You have to grease these period you also have to tighten the Allen and bolt to desired tension.
@alejandrotobienne8220 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherdonlick9119thank you these morons
@waterhouse235 5 жыл бұрын
Never had a problem with cheap levers, had them on about 6 different bikes! And will continue to buy them
@thepanman8 5 жыл бұрын
Me too dude. I actually just bought a set of the mzs that he discusses first, and i love em
@tooljunkie555 2 ай бұрын
I bought the blk& red "ride it" levers and outta the box the blind hole for the pin was "loosey goosey" there was SOME play all I did was tighten the nut on bottom a little and slapped a little grease on it good to go and the shorty size was a little longer than rc2.but other than that they been good to go for 6yrs now.
@thelikeablerider8800 5 жыл бұрын
Great that you let people know this issue! Makes you think twice and spend a bit more for quality
@rayromero6891 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, this video helped me heaps. Love the channel and always learn something new. My brakes locked up as you have described and after tons of money spent and time looking for the boogie man, it was the new lever i had installed. All the best!
@sportbiketrackgear 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear this helped you sort out the problem. This is the reason we made this video when we helped one of our customers solve his brake locking issue. - Van
@evildead5843 5 жыл бұрын
I have MZS levers on my bike and had them on my previous bike. You do have to check that bearing on these cheap-os. Thank you for spreading awareness of a major safety issue. Having never been exposed to the higher end product I never knew what that extra money was buying. I will keep a closer eye on my MZS levers and add better parts to my Christmas list.
@phantombigballs8165 Жыл бұрын
Remove them immediately had this happen to me on shit levers
@swatz22 5 жыл бұрын
I respect as a businessman for actually caring for your customers and looking up someone on KZfaq that ordered something from your website and you were able to reach out to him and resolve his issue!
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that! - Van
@del80y 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about wearing the correct sized clothing :D
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
I am giving you a great example right here man, you're welcome!
@vladbpootin3122 5 жыл бұрын
That's a race fit shirt, nothing wrong here 😂
@baldilocks1914 4 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@rutvijsonawane8597 4 жыл бұрын
@@sportbiketrackgear 🤣🤣🤣🤣 duuuude
@leandrocintrao67 3 жыл бұрын
hater idiot
@bootz0409 2 жыл бұрын
I'm rushing out to check my aftermarket levers. This vid has put chills up my spine. I am usually extremely safety conscience yet how could I have allowed myself to be so trusting with the quality of so critical a product. Your vid is a wake-up call for me. And potentially a lifesaver! Thankyou.
@sportbiketrackgear 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
@barrywood8838 Ай бұрын
Dont be a pussy
@xdepredatex 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I watched this, and as always, great content from you guys. I bought a ‘16 R3 which had adjustable levers on it already and today I noticed the adjustable part had just disappeared. Time to upgrade!
@sportbiketrackgear 4 жыл бұрын
Never go with cheap controls. - Van
@TofuProductionCinema 5 жыл бұрын
You always provide phenomenal customer service and produce quality content as well. Keep up the great work, Van - hope your son will follow your footsteps one day!
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words for sure. There is a very good chance Max Van will take over some day and take STG farther than I ever could. - Van
@ahole5407 2 ай бұрын
Quit sitting on his D begging for freebies 😂 the guy is a lowlife scumbag selling ChiNa garbage with huge markups. Don't be a fool
@ahole5407 2 ай бұрын
@sportbiketrackgear you just appreciate taking people's money. You are pathetic. A loser. My bet is you will be homeless in a year or two with all the sharks after you for tge money you still owe
@ChefStevenDiaz 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a clear & concise explanation. I'm so glad I came across this video just as my ebay purchases were almost complete! Needless to say, saving up my money for a much better lever set, like you suggested 👍
@sportbiketrackgear 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
@77teahupoo 5 жыл бұрын
Man I’m glad I watched this , just so happens I ordered the crg black with blue clickers for my 2018 cbr 1000rr. I was glad u said these are good
@jeffblair1063 5 жыл бұрын
Hey mate your vids are great and very helpful I stayed well clear of the cheap levers and went and got some pazzo levers great advice thanks from Australia 👍👍 I think it’s great that you put the time in to help other people...
@R1Ammar 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you taking the time out to do this and looking out for fellow riders!!!
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! - Van
@728yamaha 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video guys. On my R6 race bike I run CRG carbon fiber levers with the remote brake adjust. On my supermoto I'm running ASV. You get what you pay for, and levers are certainly a no compromise part, they have to perform every time. Better to spend $100 per lever than have to pay $1,000 or more to fix your bike when you crash because of crappy cheap levers.
@sportbiketrackgear 2 жыл бұрын
We are 100% on the same page. - Van
@MasterGuil 5 жыл бұрын
What I like about this channel is not only they give you advises, they also show you why. Thanks!
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and we appreciate your support! - Van
@MrBlackem1 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I've been watching these videos for years and never been steered wrong. I use crg or asv levers personally and confident they'll work everytime.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words and for watching my friend. - Brian Van
@defiantdeity5855 5 жыл бұрын
Brian's install videos and his love of motorcycling along with taking his personal time to respond to comments is why I now buy all my stuff from STG. I actually just bought some Spiegler brake lines and the cleaning kit. I am glad I have ASV levers on my 17 R6, just wish I knew about STG sooner instead of my money going to other companies before.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, leaving this comment and your support! Reading comments like this feels pretty damn good! - Brian Van
@12GKing12 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I watched your video because i bought these levers and when i tested them I almost crashed due to the front brake locking up on me due to that cross pin being in that fixed position with no flex in it. Good thing I was going slow when it happened. I don't have an issue with it now since it has probably "adjusted" are my near miss. The clutch actually sticks a bit and is slow to return to the normal position thus not engaging the engine fully. I will be taking this shyt off and going with your recommendations. Thanks!
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Brian Van
@brandonpearce9631 5 жыл бұрын
I almost bought a set of this pos's ! Thanks for the heads up. I'm ordering Crg's now! I'll be placing a order with you guys soon!
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the support, you will love the CRG levers. - Van
@mikeMcoa 3 жыл бұрын
@@sportbiketrackgear same here
@lnaesll 5 жыл бұрын
i'm going to share this with a friend of mine. he just had this same issue. i told him after the fact to never buy bike parts on ebay and amazon. luckily he didn't get hurt but he absolutely could have! thanks for putting out quality content!
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thanks for watching! - Van
@chickmagnet6004 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! You have amazing videos with such detail & common sense, it’s fantastic! Best motorcycle channel hands down. Thanks for all the great info! Subscribed!
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words and for watching! - Van
@patrickscycleshop 5 жыл бұрын
I believe 95 percent of the headaches I have had in my business ( 35 years) have been caused by inferior aftermarket parts. I have had countless issues with lever fitment. I support your videos making the public aware of these poor fitting parts. Keep up the good work. If ONLY 1% of the levers sold were bad, how many people would that account for? Your body sliding across the ground isn't worth saving a buck...
@kx501 4 жыл бұрын
Your a motorcycle mechanic? if you watch the video of the guy coming down at the 10 sec mark just before he goes down the motor soars in revs, whats that got to do with the front brake locking up? sounds like he grabbed a handful of clutch and lost control. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndN_idOlqb23gHk.html
@patrickscycleshop 4 жыл бұрын
@@kx501 my comment stands.
@sekou3758 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickscycleshop It still stands? Without even addressing what @Bike Modder said?
@patrickscycleshop Жыл бұрын
@@sekou3758 irregardless of how this guy crashed his bike. My comment still stands about the poor quality of aftermarket parts manufacturing. I remove a lot of these levers from bikes that cause the brake Pistons to stick in causing brake drag, brake light switches to stick in or in general poor fit. I've seen quite a few of these levers break without ever having contacted the ground. As I said my comment stands about the poor quality of aftermarket parts.
@patrickscycleshop Жыл бұрын
@@sekou3758 he may well be right about the clutch grab, not going to deny that but as I said, my low opinion of inferior aftermarket parts still stands.
@Midwesthookset Жыл бұрын
First of all I want to say great safety information in this video! You had me worried since I found this video right after installing the Amazon Chinese levers on my grom and z125. I watched this video 3 or 4 times trying to understand how such a simple lever could fail like you talk about. Secondly, I wish you would've talked about the difference between axial and radial brake masters. It took me a while to realize that the grom and z125 levers are axial and don't have that cross pin bearing and that there is literally no way for those to fail, in that manner. Aside from a little up and down play (really no worse than stock) I am resting easy now lol. Thank goodness, there was no way I would've spent $200 on levers for either of those bikes.😄
@sportbiketrackgear Жыл бұрын
You will not have the problem described in this video with your Z. - Van
@kaiul2967 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this info. I just bought a used bike with cheap Chinese levers and I will be swapping them out with CRGs immediately!
@colbyclark2479 Жыл бұрын
Wow, great video. I was going 110 MPH on my gsxr 750 on the highway and had CoreMoto brake lines on, first 5 miles with these levers my front tire RAPIDLY locked up and by some miracle I didnt wash out or fly over my bars. I stopped so fast form 100+MPH that i didnt even have time to merge onto the left shoulder while i was in the far most left lane! I was half sticking out in traffic. A cop and pedestrian pulled over to help me lift the front of my bike and roll the bike out of hazard. BEST BELIEVE I am spending $120 on a brake lever now!
@sportbiketrackgear Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear you did not crash. - Van
@AntaresSQ01 5 жыл бұрын
Got a pair of foldable, extendable lever for 25 quid on amazon, I've bought like 4 sets on all my different bikes, absolutely good quality, simple and robust design, nothing to fail on there, on the other hand, my XT600 had a set of ASV levers on it (they are like 80 quid EACH if i'm not mistaken), one time the bike fell off the kickstand and landed on the bars, i pick it back up, nothing special, about 20 mins later when i go to leave at the 3rd or so redlight trying to stop, going to pull the clutch in, lever snaps off and made my bike almost jump into the intersection... I've dropped, hit and clipped my bike dozens of times with these amazon levers on, they never failed or shown any signs of failure.
@kawasjt 4 жыл бұрын
@Thgt Ggyh so you don't drop your bike when offroading? You are the perfect rider in that case... The XT600 is a dual sport, pretty sure the falls are from offroad riding
@kawasjt 4 жыл бұрын
@Thgt Ggyh that's because the clutch lever broke and the bike launched forward you knobhead... and in no way it is because of his riding. learn to read but mostly understand
@anglerforlife7538 5 жыл бұрын
True shouldn't risk your life just to get cheap and bad quality product.. life is priceless
@AustinCProductions 5 жыл бұрын
My wife got the MZS levers on her 300 and it was a disaster. ( she got them second hand, and had her friend install them ) I didn't know about it but it was a complete disaster. awesome video, thank you for making this video, the world needs to know about top shelf quality levers for not only their safety, but the safety of others around them.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! We just turned this video on a couple hours back and there are already multiple comments regarding issues with these levers. One comment noted the front brake locking as well. Let's see how many more are posted after this video has been up a little longer. - Brian Van
@BrookStockton Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video. I bought a set of very high quality levers and because of this video ended up realizing a mistake I made installing them. I had sloppily applied thread lock to the front brake actuator pin and it dripped into the rotating bushing locking it into a single position. Went back to check it because of this video and realized the issue.
@sportbiketrackgear Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear this was helpful! - Van
@danielfitzgerald9008 4 жыл бұрын
Mine moves smooth Thank you for pointing that out Youre a great dude
@Guzzoogle 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks :). At first, I was skeptical - "Oh great, another retailer trying to convince me to buy expensive stuff" - but what you said made total sense! Also, it was awesome that you were very respectful and made it clear you had no ill will against China, but these motorcycle levers are just dangerous. Before watching this, I was completely unaware of the axial master cylinder/lever setup, having ridden mostly dirt bikes. That being said, I believe there is room for some clarification. For this axial master cylinder/lever setup, the Chinese quality control makes these levers DANGEROUS. Even with modification and maintenance to make it smooth and tight, I am not sure how the materials would wear. HOWEVER, for simpler levers, like those on dirt bikes, without the axial design, Chinese levers should be totally fine IF you check them out to make sure they are structurally sound and don't bind at the pivot point in the master cylinder or perch. Sure, they will have more slop and be generally less refined, but they should work fine. Thanks for the great video! Cheers
@sportbiketrackgear 3 жыл бұрын
If you lose your brake lever on a road bike you are in some deep shit. Is saving literally a couple of bucks worth risking yourself and your machine? - Van
@adriantroalic9298 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, but there's a HUGE gap in pricing between the 'better' ones and the ones that come from China, like, £120 a set of Pazzos versus £14 from China, where they're being produced anyway!
@jnavonoD Жыл бұрын
Dirt bike rider here. It's a total waste of money buying the cheap Chinese levers, they rattle apart in no time and the tolerances are rubbish. Did it once, regretted it, now will only buy and install Zeta levers. They might cost more but they are worth every cent. Ride on!
@cadger10 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I’d seen this before I ordered some $25 levers off eBay!! I installed them and the brake lever wiggles like crazy, I instantly took them both off and ordered some driven halo levers from you guys!! Lesson learned!! You guys are the best!!
@sportbiketrackgear 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the order and for watching. When we come across something like this we like to share it. - Van
@cadger10 3 жыл бұрын
@@sportbiketrackgear Let me tell you, your videos have saved me and my buddies THOUSANDS in labor costs Van!! We love you guys at STG!!!!
@seans8184 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information. I just happened to find this video. One of my bikes had aftermarket levers on it when i bought it. I could not figure out why the front brake was so touchy, almost like it wanted to lock up. I put a set of Parts Unlimited Honda levers back on it, now it is perfect. Crazy stuff. Thanks again!
@sportbiketrackgear Жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
@huffingfarts 5 жыл бұрын
I'm gunna check my MZS levers Monday. I haven't had any problems the last 2 seasons. Thanks for the heads up.
@xenogears5177 5 жыл бұрын
I ended up taking off my $30 chinese levers and put the stock levers back on until I can afford a good set. My brake lever was bound up just like those cheap one's that Van had. I'd rather be on the safe side instead of crashing my 11k zx6r.. not worth it.
@krisreeves6242 3 жыл бұрын
Any update? Still use the mzs?
@huffingfarts 3 жыл бұрын
@@krisreeves6242 I actually switched back to my OEM levers, but NOT because the MZS levers failed in anyway. Honestly, I got tired of the embarrassment of stalling my bike at the beginning of every riding season. The MZS levers never got stuck, or hung up. I did lubricate the pivot pins with lithium grease. Hope this helps.
@krisreeves6242 3 жыл бұрын
@@huffingfarts hey thanks this is super helpful - I ordered these from whatever province in China they are coming from (not arrived yet) and haven’t installed them yet. It’s good to know there is a chance they will arrive mechanical sound...
@Dwit2EEs 3 жыл бұрын
@@krisreeves6242 I've had MZS levers for the past 3 years and no issues whatsoever. Just grease the pivot pin when you're installing them. I have a 06 cbr 600 and the levers don't have the pivot pin, so there's that
@apriliarider6072 5 жыл бұрын
I love STG but I also love my $30 eBay levers which are undoubtedly from China. I also know people who have had $700+ rearsets snap like toothpicks. Quality is important though and you must inspect any part that goes on your motorcycle putting safety above everything else! I think Brian does a great job of trying to educate riders and get people to focus on safety and that is never a bad thing!
@Bhg265 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It sounds like the story was 1 part cheap lever, 9 parts poor installation and poor testing.
@burneraccount6396 5 жыл бұрын
I think that's pretty cavalier, considering we're talking about something that could catastrophically fail at any moment. I'll save money by buying cheap chinese made knockoffs when it's a wallet or sunglasses, but when it's something that you need to depend on to keep you safe, buyer beware.
@Bhg265 5 жыл бұрын
You could apply that rationale to a great many parts on a motorcycle. Don't get me wrong, I think you absolutely SHOULD apply said rationale liberally, as motorcycles are inherently dangerous. But regardless, an aluminum bar is an aluminum bar. The line-bearing-housing interaction needs to be seated correctly, lubed, and obviously to fit with integrity. If that is the case, worry not. Either way, giving your money to STG is a good decision, so that's another plus to the expensive levers. STG takes good care of us all.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
The issue with this particular lever was not caused by improper installation IMO. The tolerance between the cross pin bushing and the lever body was too tight which caused it to bind. Said binding caused the brakes to lock. - Van
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Well said my man! If the $4 sunglasses shit the bed you just throw them in the trash and move on. - Van
@r6enit 5 жыл бұрын
Great video...I’ve always known not to buy cheap levers but not the problems or things to look for with them!
@itsmeericb 3 жыл бұрын
Wow... I just bought a 2017 R6 and these MRS lever already installed on it. I’ve only ridden the bike twice so far but I won’t be riding it again until I replace those lever! This video is a life saver! Going to pick up a set of CRG levers now.
@sportbiketrackgear 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help out. This is the kind of shit people need to know. Enjoy the new bike. - Van
@turboboy0 Жыл бұрын
ive never had any problems with "cheap" ebay billet levers and ive used them on most of my bikes since i started riding back in 1991. used them on my suzuki katanas, gsxr's, rf900 and now my kawasaki zx14r. love them. i make sure to use synthetic grease on all of the "friction points" to make sure they always operate smoothly and blue threadlock on the nut under the levers so it has no chance of vibrating off.
@sportbiketrackgear Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear you have had a good experience using these junk levers on your bikes. Personally I would not install them on a riding lawnmower. - Van
@MrRAW1968 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this valid lesson. I was looking for new levers, trying to get a cheap replacement. Ofcourse quality doesn’t come that cheap, so I’ll look into the CRC levers instead.
@sportbiketrackgear 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thanks for watching! - Van
@bikingwithgrantygrant779 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you. I am now going to check my levers I bought as I didn't realise these issues could occur. Thank you for researching this.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and thanks for watching! - Van
@goongtod 4 жыл бұрын
Same! I just got levers from Amazon, I’m going to return them and look into the CRG levers!
@faridb40 4 жыл бұрын
I have those same exact MZS levers installed on my new to me 16' R3, I dont even like the idea of aftermarket levers, and now that I have watched this vid i definitely know I will replace them back to stock. Thanks for sharing,
@sportbiketrackgear 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thanks for watching. - Van
@zcustdrum 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I used to have those exact levers on my bike but quickly replaced them with a pair of ASV levers. Would be interesting to show other comparisons between quality products and cheap knock offs (clip ons, rear sets etc)
@calcal2030 5 жыл бұрын
He did one for motorcycle stand and a lot of people with the cheap shit slammed him for it. sigh...cheap people is gonna be cheap.
@underworldringside 10 ай бұрын
All the Chinese levers are shit nothing to know
@dariodipaola8445 5 жыл бұрын
I use to stand by Chinese levers; they can definitely get the job done for the avg street rider. After converting my bike to track-only though, I was throwing the Chinese levers out by noon and putting the OEM ones back on! The play that you showed in this video is important if you're looking for the absolute most precise and smooth lever actuation. For me, with a quick-shifter, the up/down play in the (clutch) lever wasn't very bothering. My problems with the Chinese levers came when I started to heavily brake into the corners. There is SO much flex in the lever when you squeeze the piss out of it. It actually gave so much that I had to adjust my levers another 1-2 clicks, which was uncomfortable, but gave me enough stroke to not bottom out! It was crazy. I'm sticking with OEM from now on... I might do a shorty lever on the clutch side and I do I'm definitely going with a name-brand like Pazzo, CRG, etc.
@pommeybiker 5 жыл бұрын
I got vortex lever for brake and use Chinese for clutch. The vortex came with the same knuckle as the Chinese one
@solosportbikerider5734 5 жыл бұрын
I took good note's "THANK YOU" so much for the information you may have saved lives by putting this video out,now i will WISH for the best product,because you get what you pay for.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
@user-xf3sc6zf7j 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, glad I watched this. You probably just saved me from an upcoming crash! I'm around 3 years late to this video, not sure if you're gonna see this but I just wanna say thank you!
@sportbiketrackgear 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, happy to help out. - Van
@HeavyHaulinwBlue 4 жыл бұрын
you guys changed my mind!!!!! thx bro
@pinkstonterence 5 жыл бұрын
I had the same thing happen to my CBR 1000RR when I bought it. Bought some levers off eBay and went for a ride and only made it about 300 yards and my front brake lock up. Each time I squeeze the lever the more it lock. I actually had to Walk home and get my wrench and swap out the levers on side of the street to even ride the bike home. If I would have made it to the interstate which was about 3 miles away it would have been really bad. I pray that I never made it. But I will never buy Chinese eBay or Amazon levers again. NEVER..... So I agree with this video 100%. Saving a few bucks isn't worth crashing a 14000 bike or worse losing my life over it.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you sharing this man and happy to hear you did not crash your bike! Amazon has opened the door for poor quality products with crazy low prices. When you look at the listing the photos make the item look amazing, deal of the century. It leaves some people with the impression they are getting ripped off if they invest in a better quality product. Having the opportunity to compare CRG and MZS Levers side by side is not something most would ever get to do. I can tell you that there is a massive difference between them. - Van
@yteka99 5 жыл бұрын
I put some on my buddies 600rr and had the exact same thing happen. Day before a trackday so I told him go ride it to make sure it's good. He called me from the first stop sign he came to and I had to beat the pin out with a hammer and screwdriver lol
@nathandaniel6540 5 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me except I made it to the highway. Luckily I didn’t go down but I came to a complete stop right around a blind turn and there I was stuck in lane 2 with my bike trying to get drivers attention so me and the bike wouldn’t get hit. Shit went on for almost 10 minutes before someone finally pulled over to help. That shit was sketchy and I’m super blessed it wasn’t way way worse.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
@@yteka99 Thanks for sharing, already a ton of brake locking comments on this video. - Van
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
@@nathandaniel6540 Glad to hear you are ok. Tons of people have already posted comments about brakes locking in this video and it has only been up a couple days. - Brian Van
@adamjohnson9976 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video I was debating getting those mzs levers because I thought what could be the difference
@Brian-ie2un 5 жыл бұрын
Well I learned something here and now off to check my modified front brake set up. Thanks.
@kanand00 5 жыл бұрын
HI BRIAN, am going to change the stock break lever , clutch lever. thank you for the info Gosh. .
@doomsdayduck4479 4 жыл бұрын
The tolerances are so tight on the CRGs they give Brian's shirt a run for it's money! 😂 Joking aside I'm going to get some CRGs now
@sportbiketrackgear 4 жыл бұрын
Great comment! - Van
@ibizatotalconcept1236 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear this….just in time before installing. Thx for that, always go for safety. Keep up the good work, greetings from Amsterdam
@sportbiketrackgear 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, those cheap controls should be avoided. - Van
@id2050 5 жыл бұрын
Love your content. Life saving stuff!
@4doordriven 5 жыл бұрын
Are You able to remove the cross-pin from the lever on the "MZS"? If so, would you use a dremel or sandpaper to free up some space where the cross-pin goes, re-install it and have the play necessary to prevent brakes from locking up?
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
You should not have to do that, the lever should be good to go out of the box. - Van
@4doordriven 5 жыл бұрын
@@sportbiketrackgear I understand that 100%. I was shedding some light for the people that don't mind fiddling with their bike parts and would go the extra mile to make the levers work for them. But at sub $50 you should not expect the precision that's present in the premium levers
@clintknowlton4589 5 жыл бұрын
I deff want to trust my brakes to a home dremel job......
@4doordriven 5 жыл бұрын
@@clintknowlton4589 .......you're only putting trust in yourself. If you don't trust yourself then, easy, don't attempt it and go out and buy premium levers instead.
@echoconcrete8123 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! It's documented that this has happened to many riders, who knows how many riders have died because of cheap unregulated Chinese parts . If you had a crash and you suspect it was caused by Chinese levels...change your levers - BUT keep your levers and purchase receipt, packaging, etc (and document your damage) - we need some kind of legal action against these manufacturers, I'm looking into it, but this type of thing could take years. But please keep your receipts/documents (very important) for going forward with any type of lawsuit. I will be posting in videos like this one with updates and once things get going will setup a formal website.
@sportbiketrackgear 4 жыл бұрын
This is a bigger problem than most would believe. - Van
@douglas7260 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, but unfortunately there is no way to hold these Chinese companies accountable. So many Chinese companies steal intellectual properties and it is not like the Chinese government is going to enforce any kind of punishment or fine. Best thing to do is spread to word to everyone to not buy cheap knock offs. The reality is, most riders who buy the cheap stuff like this probably do not realize just how much they are gambling with their life. If they did, I doubt they would purchase the cheap knock off stuff.
@Fischize 5 жыл бұрын
STG - the same exact thing happened to me. I commented on this on this topic in one of your other videos. After my front brake locked up, I reinstalled the EOM levers later that day. As much as I would like to install aftermarket levers, that close-call experience is telling me to stay away and not roll the dice.
@antonio030562 5 жыл бұрын
same experience ...putting my original OEM levers back on also
@NotMeNaNaNa 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video Brian! While trying to get the cross-pin bushing out of my stock levers I came across this video. In it I saw the same levers I purchased. At first glance they look sufficient, boy was I wrong! Thanks to your review I saw the little details that go unseen by the untrained eye. As a result I did 2 things: 1) immediately ordered Vortex levers from you. 2) requested a refund from Amazon on the MZS levers. Since I do a lot of track riding your video possibly saved my life! Best part is I had STG Gear bucks from a previous order to offset some of the price difference and return to Amazon was accepted with no hassle 😎
@NotMeNaNaNa 4 жыл бұрын
Got my Vortex levers yesterday, installed today. Thanks again for the possible life saving video Brian! Now I’m ready to hit the track again(once it opens) 😉
@azariusshaw1890 5 жыл бұрын
I literally have the same exact levers on my cb919 and they have worked flawlessy since installed. I think I can speak for 95% of everyone watching this video and say that I'd choose a cheap $30 pair of levers over a $300 pair any day.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
A 5% failure rate on a brake lever is horrible. These MZS levers are so sloppy you are better off with the OEM levers on the bike. - Van
@xbladerunner 5 жыл бұрын
@@sportbiketrackgear I agree. I would never accept a 5% failure rate. I also would never gamble my life on a failure rate like that.
@marcomazariegos 4 жыл бұрын
I was about to buy this levers on amazon until I saw this video. With the video I understand what happens with the brake lever, but what would be the consecuences of the cheap levers on the clutch side only?? Thanks for the info.
@sportbiketrackgear 4 жыл бұрын
You should be good to go with the clutch side. Still not great quality, just won't really be risking your personal safety. - Van
@marcomazariegos 4 жыл бұрын
@@sportbiketrackgear thanks for the reply, suscribed!!👍
@bullockwagon5994 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome! Way to be ahead of the game in customer service! Keep it up guys and gals!
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that, we all work our asses off here at STG to be the best! - Brian Van
@saltyprocrastinator 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian, I actually have those exact MSZ levels on my MT09, and you've convinced me!
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. The MT 09 is a great bike, for sure worth investing is quality parts! - Van
@inthesPhila 5 жыл бұрын
At the annual BMW motorcycle weekend party in southern Germany, the German Police had a booth and they showed a rack of "aftermarket" stuff that is Illegal for use on German roads. Aftermarket "cheap" brake levers were on their rack. These kill riders in the Alps and elsewhere.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and taking the time to share this. IMO this is a real problem from hard parts to safety gear that needs to be sorted out. - Van
@davemartin9774 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you too bro, I believe 100% these are dangerous and SHOULD be OUTLAWED IN THE USA as well!
@hoomannili 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly how do the German Police identify "cheap" aftermarket levers?!
@ColtonBlumhagen 5 жыл бұрын
@@hoomannili My question too.
@plllot9713 5 жыл бұрын
dude. in germany, anything that is not factory fitted or doesn't have compliance certificate for the specific model is illegal, so even your beautiful $200 levers would be defined as 'Alpine riders' killers' xD
@vicenterr7 5 жыл бұрын
Got it. When i take it to the track I'll use OEM levers
@NickTheGREEK1216 5 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos I’ve seen you do. Great information, thanks. 👍🏻🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, appreciate it! - Van
@pnoyryder68 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome video and info! I've always doubted the quality of these cheaper levers just not sure where to properly check them. Sometimes you do get what you pay for
@sportbiketrackgear 3 жыл бұрын
In this case you 100% get what you pay for. - Van
@chrisjones7281 5 жыл бұрын
I don't doubt the level of Quality on a expensive line of levers is excellent. They have gorgeous products. Those are premium features that not even OEM levers have. OEM also tend to have a bit of play. I bought some nice Spiegler lines from you guys over a year ago May 2017 for my FZ1 with R1 front end fork conversion and I run them with Chinese lever and M/C. Zero problems. I also bought a used R1 that also had Chinese levers on them and they had been on the bike a long time with no issue. My brother has a 2015 R1 with them with out issues and my friend has a Triumph Street Triple that he picked used up from a shop with those type of levers already on it. All of them have seen track days and canyon/mountain rides without issue. Just by looking at the comments on here its like everyone thinks this happens all the time. If this is the cause then shouldn't it happen 100% of the time? Are those the actual levers on the customers bike? Were they tested to in fact prove this is the issue.? R&D is not done like that. And if they are truly dangerous levers why could you see them on an old clapped out bike? Dangerous is dangerous. If they are the true issue they shouldn't be on any bike. Cost of the bike is irrelevant to cost of life. Making statements like clip ons breaking under brake pressure? Support the products you sell . That's good business sense. You guys are a quality seller which is why I made a purchase from you after seeing your video also. But don't use hearsay and scare tactics and say I love Chinese people "BUT"..
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing in this video has been misrepresented, these levers caused the brakes to lock on the R6. I did not do this to scare people, I did it to share something I feel needs to be shared man. You are correct not all of them have issues. That said ask yourself if you want to be the guy who's brakes lock up and you fall because they did? It is also a fairly safe bet these products are not backed by any product liability insurance. While I do not know that for a fact I will say it would be very difficult to cover the expense of said insurance when you are selling a set of levers for $40. End of the day we should all do what we feel is right for us. - Van
@deathwish8339 5 жыл бұрын
It only has to happen once. Someone tells me a dog bites, I dont go pet it because he looks fine.
@chrisjones7281 5 жыл бұрын
@@deathwish8339 Porsche and Ferrari break down. We own BMW and Audi's in the family and have recalls. It happens. Nothing is perfect 100% of the time. I'm not saying the Premium Stuff isn't amazing. Ball Bearing in the adjuster is cool.But once you adjust the lever to your comfort do you ever change it? The factory OEM doesn't have that feature , so comparing it to another brand and saying its not as good because it doesnt have that feature is a bit silly. Now looking at the pivot bushing design that Brian Van pointed out IS different from the Brembo design on my R1 and the Brembo RCS design that is fairly common on many bikes. SO with the rotating bushing being tight as BV pointed out he may be right. But that is not every design .And I'm sure that you could free that bushing up fairly easy IF that was a common issue.Should you have to free a bushing? NO, but like any motorcycle maintenance it wouldn't hurt to check an make sure everything is smooth. As I looked at the comments I saw that there was a blanket response that everything NOT from a premium brand was unsafe. Should you support the premium brands since they put in the R&D that is often copied? Sure if you like. But Even the OEM copy each other as well. As far strength is concerned, all levers break in crashes regardless of make. Like I said, this not a knock to STG as I am a paying customer and follow their page.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjones7281 Thanks for taking the time to leave this! You could 100% free up that bushing if you had enough knowledge and experience to see the need to do so. The reality is most riders do not have said knowledge nor should they need to, the levers should simply me made to the correct tolerances. I am not saying only premium brands are safe, I am saying these MSZ levers have shit tolerances and have caused the front brake to lock on several bikes (multiple comments in this video already noting brake locking). I feel best practice when shopping for brake components, levers, handlebars, rearsets and drive line components is to stick with known brands that have proven themselves to perform. Taking it a step further I also believe we should all support brands to invest in the research and development that works towards making this sport better. The motorcycle industry is very unique when you compare it to others out there. You won't find many people who make their living in this industry living in a mansion or flying in a private jet. Sure you can make a decent living if you work your ass off, passion for riding is the real driving force. - Brian Van
@deathwish8339 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjones7281 Porsche and Ferrari do break down, as do all vehicles. They also bring a somewhat unique driving exerience with their crazy performance. You are paying for the outstanding performance and relatively high reliability. A better comparison is, would you buy a known brand like Mercedes or a knockoff clone of a Mercedes like a BYD (chinese manufacturer) for 1/3rd the price. Be honest now.
@nickh3809 5 жыл бұрын
MZS levers come with instructions strickly made for that bushing as well as common causes of problems etc if you install it wrong.. it also states you may need to use your OEM bushing (which i did) and it comes with washers to tighten up the clearances... granted i wont attempt to compare china brands to american brands.. but ive never had a problem with cheap aftermarket levers from multiple companies... the guy with the R6 was a f***n moron who shouldve taken his bike to a shop 😂. 3 sets of levers vs 1 single lever.. i mean its a no brainer, but from a marketing & profit stand point i see why you try so hard to push the more expensive brands, because they are HIGHER quality. If you can afford it, always get the better stuff, but if you cant, nothing wrong with a few cheapy parts ^_- (Im sure these people are super nice people) hahaha, im dead 😂💯
@joshhuoabski3278 5 жыл бұрын
how about when the damn float receiver for your brake actuator rattles loose and just right to apply your brakes all by themselves??? smart ass this shit is for real these levers are F****d and I am gathering as many of these MZS victims to go big on china resellers...Amazon types. and if you installed them so piss pout the brakes would be engaged or dragging a little. you would you know if you did it wrong while pushing it out of your driveway or whatever.
@G100666 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this. My (ancient but great fun) 2001 Yamaha 1000 Fazer recently had a similar issue on a regular road ride. Never even thought it could be a lever problem and had the calipers checked, cleaned and taken care of. Took it to a track the next week and, whilst it didn't lock up because I wasn't braking aggressively, it stayed on for a while and I had to stop by the side of the track for a while to let the calipers free up. I'll check the lever tomorrow. It's worked perfectly for years but maybe now either worn or dirty inside.
@sportbiketrackgear 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you get that sorted out. - Van
@lewontwo5883 5 жыл бұрын
I could not agree more. You made some really good points. Some things require a quality product and quality usually comes at a higher price. Reminds me of the old saying "pay now or pay later". Motorcycle parts, equipment, gear, and service require quality if you want to maximize the experience and live to ride another day.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave this comment. - Van
@evansolomon169 5 жыл бұрын
First off, great content on the STG videos. Brian, you obviously are a smart guy with years of experience which leads you to more informed opinions. I respect the things you say based on your intelligence and experience. However, Joe Blow with limited knowledge trying to install anything that he doesn't fully understand is an accident waiting to happen. That could be levers, pegs or even something as simple as adjusting chain slack. Motorcycles aren't dangerous, tackling a job that you're unqualified for is dangerous.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, appreciate the kind words. - Van
@joshhuoabski3278 5 жыл бұрын
ive been servicing 2 gsxr 750's from 0 Miles each. 2006 and 2017. guess what mashed my 2017. it wasnt my pair valve mod. wasnt my full exhaust i installed, or the PCM V i put in a had generic programmed myself. It was those damn levers. So joe blow cant know that his shit will vibrate loose and locked could he, or does everyone else have the ability to see in the future? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p5mqer2mybXbkps.html
@flip_moto 5 жыл бұрын
this video made me check the tolerances on the mzs levers... hadn't realized how sloppy they were. not going to risk it, I ordered the upgraded OEM shorty handles from Triumph before taking the street triple to a track day. thanks for the advice STG. I even found some that are only $42 for the set, $8 more expensive than the chinese knock offs. No Brainer to stick with OEM.
@alphaforce6998 5 жыл бұрын
He is not advising, he is selling...to gullible fools.
@JTrimble80 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I’ve come across and watched a few times over the past couple years. You seem to really like the CRG levers, how do they compare to the driven Halo levers? Would you definitely chose one over the other and why?
@sportbiketrackgear 2 жыл бұрын
Both the Driven and the CRG are excellent options. We have been using the CRG because we prefer the full length lever. The Driven Halo levers are a 3/4 length. - Van
@Leeh187 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, was just about to purchase those cheap levers and was looking for information on KZfaq. Im a new rider and after watching this Ill be spending a hell of lot more money on my levers. Thanks
@sportbiketrackgear Жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
@Doogleraia 5 жыл бұрын
Properly working brakes are more important than a working throttle or even engine. Sure, wear happens, but at the point where they don't brake anymore, you better pray you have good enough gear to take that coming impact unless you can engine brake enough to survive.
@MrTenzn 5 жыл бұрын
I been riding for more then 12 years I believe If I am meant to die , I will die now matter if I have Pazzos or CRG.
@SIMSPHERE 5 жыл бұрын
The end result of the video applies to ALL riders, regarding any new gear. (no matter who makes it) Inspect your new gear, BEFORE you install them, AFTER you install them, do a pre-ride check , and then an "in/on-ride" check. If it works properly 100 percent, include it into your weekly/monthly maintenance intervals. If it does not function the way it is advertised, RETURN THEM, immediately.
@firestorm996 Жыл бұрын
A great video and great advice that’s just as relevant 4 years later. A lot of folk get seduced by the low price point and funky anodising, but like you say there are certain parts on a motorcycle that you need to be able to rely on 100%. Front brake is perhaps the most important control on any bike, it makes sense to buy quality.
@sportbiketrackgear Жыл бұрын
Well said and thanks for watching! - Van
@ronnyc8251 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I seen this. I put a pair of these on my 600RR, but I'm gonna change them..
@kmason3610 5 жыл бұрын
I'm from China and I hate those made in China crap too. Good thing in the states is that they only priced $40,$50 each, so that way you know you are not buying any quality item. In China, they put big names on those crap and sell them at high rates. You can't really tell the differences cuz for most ppl we don't know what the authentic ones look or feel like. I hate to say this, but people can buy good things from China when those things don't require quality material or precision. Here in China, we have a motorcycle company tear a Honda cb500x apart, copied everything and changed the look a little and they say they made a new bike. Sad thing is that crap is having endless problems. It's really funny cuz it's just like a student copied No.1's homework and still failed class.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you sharing your perspective my friend. - Van
@paraj5582 5 жыл бұрын
国内没有市场 环境 说实话我觉得抄没有问题 但是久了也要拿出点自己的能拿出手的东西
@kmason3610 5 жыл бұрын
@@paraj5582 我没有反对抄，世界大厂都在抄，有厂商租一辆特斯拉全部拆下来抄，我反对的是，既然抄了，省去了所有研发费用，那么就应该抄抄好，把配置和材质提升一下。给用户一个更好也更廉价的选择。全部抄一遍下来还是没抄好，这不是来搞笑的吗
@paraj5582 5 жыл бұрын
孔目兴 just like what I said
@thephaniaraf8672 5 жыл бұрын
K Mason well said. Am from southAfrica but I live and work in China now! I have bought very many goods with big names but on delivery the goods are crap on quality! On the 5th of this month(5.4.2019) I bought a brand new sport bike. I think it’s called horizon am not sure of its proper name @$3400. (Us Dollars). As I talk now the thing can’t move. It’s at a repair shop now. I broke a valve in the engine coz I tried to race it a bit! Taking quick tight twisties Change gears up and down so fast. I only rode it for 160miles. Now I have to spend another $980 to get it back on the road .. but why do we have to suffer in the hands of these ruthless money minded suckers ?? They don’t care about product quality. But only want to make profit! And worst of all The dealership won’t cover the damage! Am so disappointed
@paddywestside3396 5 жыл бұрын
"I'm sensitive" 😂 As always, superb video!
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! - Brian Van
@ocelotemoto 5 жыл бұрын
I got two pairs of those chinese levers because I'm learning motogymkhana so I drop my bikes very often. I got the foldable ones and so far they work fine even after the occasional tip over but man you are right. What would you suggest if you knew you would be dropping your bike often? Nice brake lever guards and OEM levers? Nice foldable OEM levers?
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Hand guards do help to protect the bike in a tip over as do folding levers. That said having one of both does not guarantee the levers won't be damaged in a fall. IMO installing a set of these levers on your bike is a bad idea. Better to leave the OEM if you don't want to invest in a quality set of aftermarket levers. Another option for you to consider would be installing a shorty set of levers on the bike. They are far less likely to be damaged in a crash than a standard length lever. - Van
@jpmon-wd6xe Ай бұрын
I am a 60-year-old Canadian I've been riding since the age of 15 I truly enjoy your videos find them very educational keep up the good work thanks man
@Surpriseify 5 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%, people seem to think that they can pay 10% and get 100%. Not how it works! I treat the mods i make for my bike (cosmetics excluded) as if i were buying new tires, i'd not skimp out on those, so neither will i for a lever or rearset, or chain...
@AudriusN 5 жыл бұрын
@@Patrickisnt ha ha, example, my XJR1300 - front wheel OEM bearing (NSK) 20 Euros, go to any shop and the same bearing is 10, be it SKF, Koyo, NSK :D
@plllot9713 5 жыл бұрын
with expensive levers you pay 500% and still get 100% at the most ;)
@ash3sgaming812 5 жыл бұрын
My OEM levers dont even have those bushings
@JayPatel-cj3fk 3 жыл бұрын
Yup ordered one from Amazon. I was scared when I watched this video and never bought them until recently I pulled plug after many recommending for my motorcycle. By that time I remember the watching video but didnt remember the reason not to buy. Well my break levers are so fucking simple, just a simple lever that can is held by original nut and bolt. No other bearing and stuff. After watching the video, I am so glad I bought them and not wasted $200 on CRZ. They are worth it.
@fyuecd2 3 жыл бұрын
jay patel can you supply the link to the levers? Thanks
@thelifeofBrian8 3 жыл бұрын
@quadruple treble 1888 lol I mean if you life is worth saving a few pennies then good for you
@dontbsilly8104 Жыл бұрын
Man my mate woke me up out of bed as he had a accident his brakes locked up and his bike ended up under the car thank god his alright & the bike is not that bad considering it ended up under the car but thank god I’ve seen this video explaining this !! I always like to make sure and review things before I buy them & have told him also.. I really hope he does the same from now on. Thank you for this video God bless 🙏🏻
@sportbiketrackgear Жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
@ohmaigawshitsdavid Жыл бұрын
On my way to work this morning my brakes locked up on my recently bought ‘16 R1S. Very fortunately to have been able to slow down in time and get footing but the bike was too heavy due to the slope of the road so I had to lay her down. Go figure it was due to MZS levers I installed. Last time I buy cheap aftermarket parts. I had thought I just did a bad install. I know this video is old but you saved a life. OEM levers are going back on. Thank you Brian.
@LeaveYouOnRead 5 жыл бұрын
CycleCruza got them $20 Ebay levers on his CBR1000RR with no issue, I had a set on my Ninja 300 no problem. Still using a set of $20 Ebay levers on my new Fz07, so far so good, the pull fells amazing. I can say that 95% of levers on the market r prob made in China. Not paying for $120 for a single lever. LOL
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever tickles your pickle man. Over the years I have installed several different brands of levers on a wide range of bikes. My opinion is based on first hand experience and information learned over an extended period of time, not 1 set of levers on one bike. There are already several comments on this 2 day old video noting brakes locking up caused by the lever. Not worth the risk. Using these levers is about as smart as wrapping your junk with knock off condoms IMO. - Van
@WICKEDGIXXERL 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know thay made after market levers for Chinese scoootaasss
@sapalobo9723 5 жыл бұрын
You are taking advice from CycleCruza?😳 good luck.
@LeaveYouOnRead 5 жыл бұрын
should i taking advice from u? hahahaha@@sapalobo9723
@sapalobo9723 5 жыл бұрын
@@LeaveYouOnRead probably not, but I stand by this one.
@Roy_Godiksen 5 жыл бұрын
I have a general rule: NO cheap parts on a motorcycle. It's just not worth it.
@canturgan 3 жыл бұрын
I also have a general rule, don't crash.
@megarunhard 2 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a k4 gsxr750, i noticed my front brake needed alot of force to stop compared to my rear. Come to find out it had those exact cheap ebay brake lever, but it was missing that pin bushing!!!! Im glad i came across this video
@sportbiketrackgear 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear this was helpful! - Van
@thegavel628 Жыл бұрын
Thanks (from Melbourne Australia🌏 -2022) for this info. Neighbor had this exact prob on his ZX14. After watching this vid, You/ I diagnosed his problem......crappy levers (that I didn't know he'd installed). When I asked what he'd done since I'd changed his brake pads and bled them, he said "Nothing..... Except, Oh, I changed the levers". Put old lever back on and Problem solved. Thanks guys.
@sportbiketrackgear Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and happy to hear this was helpful. - Van
@sumgui6010 5 жыл бұрын
Love my MZS levers, spending 10% of my bikes total value on levers just seems foolish - not all cheap levers, not even all MZS levers will have this issue you're talking about. Mine don't even have that bushing - they have a spring. Work awesome and I would love to see a CRG take as much abuse as us dual sporters put onto our levers... lol. Bet you anything if I had something like those on my bike I'd have a broken perch and that's way worse than a lever breaking.
@thepanman8 5 жыл бұрын
Love my MZS, way more comfortable than stock levers
@sebg2086 2 жыл бұрын
i have a pair of asv on my bikes.....and cheap chinesse on my girlfriend bikes.....for probly 8x less the price.....theyre worth it....even if they fade every 6 month.....you still win
@Anthony-qh1xv 2 жыл бұрын
How are they holding up after this time? Are they still safe to use? I just put them on my bike
@sumgui6010 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anthony-qh1xv still fine!
@intergalacticbasketballdro7186 2 жыл бұрын
@@thepanman8 My OEM Levers work "Perfectly". Awesome comfort, too! I wouldn't trade them for any fancy looking aftermarket folding type of garbage lever. (Ever)
@TexasJack78 5 жыл бұрын
Bottom line, your customer installed a bad part, then he rode around on it. This is 100% resolved by anyone with just a little common sense on install. And it needs to be said, that ANYONE who does maintenance on a bike without thorough safe review of the work, should not be riding bikes to begin with. SMH
@sparticl3 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and what to look for. I just put some shorty levers on my 636. Actually took them off to verify their tolerance and action.
@sportbiketrackgear Жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thanks for watching! - Van
@klaus-juergenkessel3916 5 жыл бұрын
Top Info and you are absolutely right! A friend of mine had a life threatening problem with the cheap Chinese levers.! He could avoid a heavy accident because of his experience and was very lucky.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and taking the time to share this! - Brian Van
@Redrider2k2 5 жыл бұрын
Every brake locking/cheap lever problem I've seen so far has been with radial master cylinders. If you don't have a radial master, you'll most likely be fine. If you do have a radial master, there's a pretty good chance you'll still be fine but you have to take a long hard look at your set up and make sure it's working right.
@sportbiketrackgear 5 жыл бұрын
Radial masters are the common denominator for the locking brakes at this point for sure. That said not everyone knows the difference between radial and axial. Let's not forget the horrible tolerances these levers have. Better to leave the OEM levers on then install these MZS, they have better feel. - Van
@ehart34 5 жыл бұрын
My buddy ordered some super cheap levers and they litteraly fell apart while he was riding! I agree certain things you just shouldn't cheap out on! Nice video!
@rempel29 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thank you! I recently found your channel and I think I've watched close to everything lol. I'm looking at new levers for my bike, just wondering if you have ever heard of Raximo levers out of Germany?
@sportbiketrackgear 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I have not heard of nor seen that brand. Often times there are some really good brands that never get distributed outside of their country of origin. - Van
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