The Truth About English Only IT Jobs In Japan

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DevIppo

DevIppo

Күн бұрын

I talk about the truth on English only IT jobs in Japan ESPECIALLY APPLY FROM ABORAD!
I'm sick of trash advice being fed from western English only speakers in Japan,
and I'm sick of people telling me they couldn't get an english only IT job in Japan.
These guys are giving the worst advice...
I dare them to talk to honestly have a discussion with me.
00:00 Intro
00:59 Devs can't get ENGLISH IT jobs from abroad
01:31 How foreign IT workers are actually in Japan?
02:45 Let's find English only IT jobs in Japan
04:05 One Job on multiple websites & applicants. COMPETITION!
04:28 MAJORITY REQUIRE JAPANESE! N2
05:38 Reposting the same job. CV collecting...
06:10 Most jobs require at least N3 Or need to be in Japan
06:43 Be careful who you get your advice from
07:08 Why I give advice
07:45 Every foreign dev I know is Bilingual
08:00 Foreign devs in Japan get first dibs
08:35 Tokyo Recruiter explains the risk of hiring from abroad
09:22 bootcamp grads & ex english teachers get JR dev jobs
10:21 Western IT Market is down
12:25 I can't tell you it's going to get better
13:16 200 applicants for 1 frontend job
14:14 Some Hope & Solutions
17:41 The pie is small for English speaking IT jobs in Japan
18:08 Bilingual devs are of more value to Japan
19:01 3 pieces of advice
- Be careful who you get advice from
- Lower your hype
- Get yourself to Japan
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@aru_cha
@aru_cha 8 күн бұрын
I'm Bangladeshi, born and raised in Japan, so I have had the unique experience of being fully native in Japanese as well as knowing English to be able to communicate with foreigners. In the six years I have been working as an engineer, over three different companies (one multinational megacorp, one startup, and one large local company), there were only TWO DAYS where I had to use English for work, and that was to communicate with a team in Paris about an internal project. Everything else is 100% Japanese. Documentation is in Japanese, comments in code are in Japanese, git commit messages are in Japanese, everything. Even if you are working at an international or multinational company, they are stationed in Japan to serve the Japanese market, so you will have to communicate with Japanese people, in Japanese. Noone is going to adapt to you, and it is your responsibility to adapt. Knowing English in Japan is practically useless outside of working with foreign clients and reading English documentation for whatever library you're working with (which generally has Japanese documentation anyway, generally easier to understand than in English, so when you're talking to coworkers you will have to be familiar with the Japanese terms regardless). Personally, with the awful pay, terrible exchange rates, and increasing pension year by year (that IIRC foreigners have to pay into as well), and declining healthcare services, I have no idea why anyone would even consider moving here. Just my two cents, good luck everyone.
@devippo
@devippo 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing with us your experience! I ask every American that is working IT in japan. One guy told me that if he want to go back home he can just go back. This will be the same for me too, I can just go back to NZ or Australia. One American said if yen goes to like 200 yen to $1 then he will go back.
@deepdarksecretful
@deepdarksecretful 7 күн бұрын
with your experience and skills, are you intending to convert to PR? Am not sure if the benefits may improve (or worsen) if such were to happen. Thank you for sharing too! 😊
@aru_cha
@aru_cha 7 күн бұрын
@@deepdarksecretful I had a PR since I was born, so I can't tell you the difference between non-PR and PR, sorry!
@narsplace
@narsplace 9 күн бұрын
No Japanese mostly means no Japanese in day to day work task. Japanese may be needed with co workers, HR, upper bosses, social groups and many other areas.
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
Some people are closed in small circles and don't want to.
@szymonsteczek2180
@szymonsteczek2180 9 күн бұрын
Let me put on my two cents' worth with regards to language 😅. I work with polish native team in my company. But recently new person who doesn't speak English joined us. During the work time ( no meetings 😆 ) we use polish. When it comes to planning, refinement, etc. we switch to english in order to properly convey our thoughts and understand each other. This happens as it was mentioned that "in IT we use English mostly". But we need to remember that this "IT culture" came to us from US directly and we have adopted it as it was easier for us to do it. Japan on the other hand because it's ethically and culturally a monolith adopted IT with their culture in mind. Maybe that's why people either can't or won't understand why japanese is needed in Japan to do work. Also - if you move abroad you should at least have some willingness to learn new language 😁😁
@devippo
@devippo 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for your two cents (Hope that's USD cents...) Computers and IT is great and all but at the end of the day we are working with humans with different cultures and languages. I try my best to be culturally sensitive with people. I might joke around but it's never in bad spirits.
@MeikaiBry
@MeikaiBry 9 күн бұрын
One of my favorite learning tools is a JS basics book in Japanese. Helped me get familiar with the software concepts I already learned in English. Double whammy
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
That's a great way to learn Japanese! 一石二鳥
@qngdt
@qngdt 9 күн бұрын
Can you name the book? Thanks
@bjni
@bjni 9 күн бұрын
thankfully I speak Japanese, before I start working I will grind all the tech words out, shouldnt be that hard. Also trying to get the english speaking only software engineer jobs here is just as hard as trying to get a job in software engineering in the west. the only labor shortage of tech/software engineering in Japan is in the local market. obviously you need to be fully fluent in those.
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
Awesome! Good luck on the tech part!
@dogecl
@dogecl 8 күн бұрын
"It worked for me, why don't you try the same?" is the best advice ever. It's science! Seriously, it reduces your chances, increases competition, and probably will mean fewer possibilities for a promotion if you even make it. How can you hope to make decisions, manage a team, and have meetings with other stakeholders if you don't speak the local language? Sure, the developers might be more exposed to English, and you could also have foreign co-workers. But outside of that bubble, everyone else will prefer speaking their native language. Personally, my minimum is getting N2 and a decent speaking level before applying. But language is not everything, there will also be some cultural differences, and being prepared is never a wasted effort.
@devippo
@devippo 8 күн бұрын
You go it man. I may have bursted some bubbles but it's got to be said.
@majibento
@majibento 9 күн бұрын
Important topic, and a nice live demo, thanks for the vid. By the way, do you recommend any scouting sites? I was scouted on an IT site for my current job (in Germany) but not sure if there’s as much stuff like that in Japan
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
Guten Tag! Things might be a little different here not too sure. In Tokyo there are more recruiters than there are jobs so they are always looking for talent. There are also many IT job sites / services where they can approach you. IF you come from abroad and have zero or little Japanese, the English only jobs can hire you but you really need to stand out as the competition is high. Ideally you should remove as many middle men as possible.
@majibento
@majibento 9 күн бұрын
@@devippo Guten Tag 😃 Thanks
@geraldkan3483
@geraldkan3483 9 күн бұрын
Knowing Japanese is a big plus.
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
So many more doors open up!
@stackz115
@stackz115 9 күн бұрын
Great Video. I totally agree with needing to speak the local language not only for having access to more jobs but to also integrate into the society. I will say though I have been contacted by multiple recruiters for Cloud/Infrastructure jobs and they've told me there are plenty of english jobs for my skillset and I have conducted a few interviews where the company reiterated they're english only.
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. First problem here 1. You trusted Recruiters 2. You had a few interviews, (Rakuten? Mecrari?) now may mislead other people that there are PLENTY. Seriously now, how many is Plenty? Did you get a job? Are you already in Japan?
@stackz115
@stackz115 9 күн бұрын
@@devippo Thanks for the questions. Admittedly I do not have much experience in this space compared to you so take what I say with a grain of salt. 1. What's the issue with recruiters? So far they've been helpful and I haven't had a bad experience. 2. The companies you listed were not the ones I've interviewed with. 3. well I don't know the exact number, the recruiters have said that companies currently are in need of people so much so that they are now reaching out to candidates overseas to meet the demand. Now could they be lying? sure. 4. yes. 5. no.
@noseboop4354
@noseboop4354 9 күн бұрын
Would you mind sharing which recruiters are hiring for these jobs?
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
​@@stackz115 I never take the word of a salesman especially when you are the product. Plenty is just something your recruiter said to you. Just saying. So you got a Job from a Japanese company but not in Japan? Is it a remote job?
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
@@noseboop4354 Maybe you guys can connect and share the company. I'm hearing a different story fromTokyo recruiters I know...
@bluasterisk
@bluasterisk 9 күн бұрын
Yessir, if you don't have any Japanese you better have the skills and experience to make up for that. There is very much a balance of skill and Japanese language that is considered. Also the job market in Japan is very much handled with recruitment agencies, most of these jobs listed hide the company names and other details because of their competitors. So my advice is to interact with the recruiters who will disclose these details to you. There may be some companies who are also willing to work with your lack of Japanese, but you need to show that you are willing to learn the language, you should also expect to prove that you are serious about living in Japan long term as well. Every single casual call or interview will raise this question of longevity.
@devippo
@devippo 8 күн бұрын
100% correct. The Top 5% of skilled devs have no problem wherever they go. Middle man business model is something we see in all industries in Japan. I think this one of the most important cultural business practices that they will have to change as the working population declines. More important than any AI or robotics grift. Thanks for your input!
@Escape_The_Mundane
@Escape_The_Mundane 7 күн бұрын
Learning Chinese, German, Russian, Greek, French, Dutch, Italian, Hebrew, Arabic, Hindi, Spanish, urdu. Many great languages all around the world. If your willing to learn other languages, why not all places. Not as hard as people think.
@devippo
@devippo 7 күн бұрын
Cool man
@sebastienzarate9408
@sebastienzarate9408 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for the information in regard to the reality of the IT job market in Japan. I'm considering the option of going to a language school first; could you please give me the name of that school you mentioned on minute 14:44. Would really appreciate the info. Cheers!
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
Welcome. Google search "sjec" Shizuoka Japanese Education Center. It's 594,800 円 for the year. Ideal to get N3 at your home country first then attend for N2 in 1 year. I think it's one of the cheapest. Others go from 700,000 per year.
@sebastienzarate9408
@sebastienzarate9408 9 күн бұрын
@@devippo Wow, thank you so much for the reply. 594,800 円 for the year is a bargain, considering you get to stay for a year with the language studies visa. (I mean bargain from a western perspective). I agree, I plan to study Japanese for at least 2 years in my home country and get to N3 and only then would I pursue going to Japan to study for my N2 and N1. I mean it when I say that there aren't many youtubers who portray the reality of the Japanese job market with both pros and cons like you do. Thanks for the help and the reality check. 😎
@ultracapitalistutopia3550
@ultracapitalistutopia3550 8 күн бұрын
Just to let you know from my fresh grad friend's experience that even foreign students who have passed N1 and can speak really fluent Japanese have very difficult time to land a job in Japan's IT company except for some contractors which only offer very poor wage.
@mrcheezits1
@mrcheezits1 9 күн бұрын
Good to mention that if you are still a student to sign up for a study abroad program at your school or take a gap year and go to a language school.Also if you can find a desk job where you can get away with checking Facebook the whole time and use that time to code/japanese instead.
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
You are right. You got to try whatever it takes to get here. Not easy (trust me i get messages everyday from from people), but there is a path one can take.
@thaneshwardhimal6357
@thaneshwardhimal6357 3 күн бұрын
I am currently in japan and i have n2 Japanese and basic it skills whats the chance of getting in it company?
@devippo
@devippo 2 күн бұрын
You still need IT skills. Life is not handed to you so easily.
@realcirno1750
@realcirno1750 9 күн бұрын
why would anyone even want to go to japan just to speak english all the time, what happened to trying to assimilate lol
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
This is a small group of people. Most likely spouse visa or highly skilled dev from a western large city. They get so defensive when this topic comes up. But this people can't give foreign devs who want to come here good advice.
@jabransaeed6155
@jabransaeed6155 9 күн бұрын
I'm too old. Does it makes sense for a 37 year old guy to start on JLPT? My tech skills are stellar though and my CV has big names
@srihari_g
@srihari_g 9 күн бұрын
Yes, it is good to learn any language
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
If your skills are up there then I recommend trying the English speaking positions that you see on Japan dev or Tokyo dev. If you are from the US I recommend remote work while you nomad in Japan. Study Japanese and work online. Never too late to learn.
@JonasFairfield
@JonasFairfield 9 күн бұрын
I moved to Japan at 37 to go to a language school. So yeah, go for it. Plenty of resources to begin with.
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
Congrats Jonas, You did it!
@dogecl
@dogecl 8 күн бұрын
Why not? It's never too late, but in your case, it is in the middle of your life (probably). I will move to JPN to study (similar age), but I already started on my own to skip a few levels and it shows that the blockers are in our minds (or wallets).
@21Kikoshi
@21Kikoshi 9 күн бұрын
How did you transition from Teaching to IT? I'm trying to do the same - I'm in Japan
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
Worked my ass off for 1 year making my own product, then applied to wantedly jobs. Not easy but if you are here and put your mind to it you can get it.
@21Kikoshi
@21Kikoshi 9 күн бұрын
@@devippo thanks
@DominatorDomeTakedownTV
@DominatorDomeTakedownTV 9 күн бұрын
What is the best way to pass ITPEC exam as a beginner?
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
There are ITPEC books you can buy, but if you are a beginner it will take you a long time to understand. I recomened you take a year or so learning the basics of IT. It's the cheapest way but also not the easiest as it's designed for people with tech knowledge.
@DominatorDomeTakedownTV
@DominatorDomeTakedownTV 9 күн бұрын
@@devippo ok thank you, I found FE texy book on lightboat, what do you think of that site to learn online?
@UnimportantAcc
@UnimportantAcc 7 күн бұрын
​@@devippo as someone with no computer sci knowledge, but wanting to change career at age 23, I thought I could just brute force the itpec questions by studying w the previous exams. This would work for part A of the exam, but part B is all based around coding - which I've heard requires around 12 months of coding knowledge to pass. I'm in two minds whether to self-study everything I need to pass ITPEC, or to take on £20k in student loans here in the UK to study a computer science degree (networking modules include CCNA syllabus) over 3 yrs. Study from home, so it's cheaper than the usual cost here. Would you recommend one route over the other? My end game target is just to be able to receive a Japanese visa 😭 Worth noting I'd also have to continue my Japanese studies during this time, as I'm only around N3 level. Sorry for the long ranting comment, but I thought it'd be worth asking someone's who's experienced in the subject!
@tombath366
@tombath366 8 күн бұрын
Great video, insightful and matches my experience trying to find Japanese tech positions. N3 + a in-demand language (C++) hasnt been enough to land a job while in the UK So I have the money saved up to study, and I am also able to get a spouse visa. However, my wife is concerned that me "quitting my job and moving to Japan without a job" would make job hunting more difficult because of japans "culture of not hiring unemployed people". Could you share the light on how true this is? Will Japanese employers not hire someone who hasn't worked for a whole year even if that year was spent at language school? Cheers Tom
@devippo
@devippo 8 күн бұрын
Hi Tom, Thanks for asking. First of congrats on N3 and already being employed in the UK. if you have money saved and ok with a spouse visa you have very little to worry about. Let's say you study for a year at a school and get your N2. While you study for N2 you can still apply to companies, English only jobs too. I wouldn't be worried if I were you. If you need more assurance jump on discord as ask the devs in Japan, there they will say a similar thing.
@tombath366
@tombath366 8 күн бұрын
Hi Devippo, I tried your discord link on your channel but it has expired 😢 Would love to get more insights from people who've taken this route! I am trying to convince my partner that me living in Okayama and studying for a year (with the intent to get to N2 and then find work) is a good Idea, but she is convinced it's career suicide 😂 I'm going to send her this video so hopefully she can understand my dilemma! Your way of explaining it is very clear and highlights why me being in the UK is making hunting for jobs in Japan so difficult! Cheers Tom
@devippo
@devippo 8 күн бұрын
@@tombath366 Yeah, got to get the misses on board before coming. I updated the link in the description of this video. There is a guy from UK who has been here 8 years lead dev who went to a language school first. Maybe we can ask him in discord.
@ultracapitalistutopia3550
@ultracapitalistutopia3550 8 күн бұрын
About that hunting job while jobless, I think this would not have any impact on your chance. I have a Japanese friend who was hunting for new job for few months, after he had resigned from a big Tokyo game company due to overwork. The permanent employment is no longer a thing in Japan, thus the said stigma is no longer true, at least not in the more progressive industry like IT. The stress for getting employed did take a toll on his mental health, even though he succeeded eventually.
@devippo
@devippo 7 күн бұрын
@@ultracapitalistutopia3550 Nice anecdotal story.
@huzayfasyed5488
@huzayfasyed5488 14 сағат бұрын
Make a video on how you find freelance work pls 🙏
@devippo
@devippo 14 сағат бұрын
Will do!
@ultracapitalistutopia3550
@ultracapitalistutopia3550 9 күн бұрын
As a foreigner currently working in the digital industry in Japan, I can firmly verify that the employment market in Japan IT industry is getting harsher even for the local applicants, let alone foreigners who may not be able to speak fluent Japanese. Or you will need to accept a crippling wage when yen is so weak currently. Oh and ghosting is also a thing in Japan. Some Japanese can speak pretty good English, but they are the absolute minority. You cannot get away without speaking/writing Japanese while working in a Japanese company. Yes. I also heard about big Japanese corps like Toshiba undergo mass layoff, or push early retirement for some senior executives to cut cost. Square-Enix is currently in a very bad shape either which has kinda frozen employment of developers (you may still find them posting jobs online but expect fat chance of ghosting.)
@devippo
@devippo 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your realistic take! I follow bandai-namco as i'm a massive Tekken fan and it seems they are having financial losses, maybe not related but these news pieces are increasing these days. Either way I'll be here in Tokyo. Till the wheels fall off? Not sure. let's see. I can always go back to NZ/AUS I guess.
@ultracapitalistutopia3550
@ultracapitalistutopia3550 8 күн бұрын
@@devippo Speaking of Bandai-Namco, I checked its job listing but the most insulting condition is that it guarantees NO bonus at all. The best performing game companies post-pandemic like Nintendo, Capcom and FromSoftware all requires proper Japanese communication skill. Monolith Soft (Xeno series) even requires N1 or equivalent.
@devippo
@devippo 8 күн бұрын
I see... I saw Kojima is hiring English only positions, but as you can guess the requirements are quite high. 3D RENDERING PROGRAMMER / EFFECTS PROGRAMMER - Experience with 1 or more successful game development - Thorough knowledge of mathematics - Capable of creating a system that can effectively use multi-core - Have an interest in game engine design and creation for next generation hardware You know Kojima doesn't play around with his games.
@ultracapitalistutopia3550
@ultracapitalistutopia3550 8 күн бұрын
@@devippo Yes, Kojima Production is the very few game studios in Japan which would absolutely not require any Japanese proficiency. I see its job opening on Linkedin regularly but indeed the requirement can be quite steep. These positions are definitely for Death Stranding 2 but one can safely assume its development is in some kind of troubles. The other "famous" studio of this kind is Unseen (founded by the former director of Tokyo Ghostwire, Ikumi Nakamura) for a majority of foreign developers in their team, but Unseen doesn't seem to have any active job opening currently. (The "career" page in its official site is likely just for show, but you may still give it a shot.)
@devippo
@devippo 8 күн бұрын
There must be someone keeping tabs on the Game industry in Japan. I saw SNK hires but only Japanese (saw Chinese too) but I think Saudi own a large portion of it. I wonder if they will pour money in for more foreign talent. Japan has a massive impact (or at least as a Japanese game enjoyer) on gaming might be good for some foreign talent to jump in and help out or come up with some cool ideas. Oh wait don't do that... We already see what is happening...
@klausklausi7484
@klausklausi7484 6 күн бұрын
I would rather try to get a position in a foreign company
@devippo
@devippo 6 күн бұрын
Good luck. Every man and his dog is applying.
@JarvisJapanLab
@JarvisJapanLab 9 күн бұрын
I had an English speaking IT job in japan but first I had to have Japanese IT experience and appled on wantedly in Japanese lol 😅
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
Good on you Jarvis! Thanks for sharing your experience. Wantedly is great but yeah you need Japanese. My first jobs was from wantedly, interview was in Japanese but team spoke English... I also already had a work visa.
@JonasFairfield
@JonasFairfield 9 күн бұрын
VC Money is drying up and AI's already starting to come into hurdles; Financial and Regulatory bodies have already said they're not interested, certainly not to the level it needs to be what it's being sold as. And there's nothing else in the pipeline. Yeah, get your Japanese down. Just don't take it personally if you REALLY have to prove yourself with the language barrier, they're starting you at "This guy doesn't speak a word of Japanese."
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
Yup, no more free tendies. Thanks for the comment!
@James-yl3kk
@James-yl3kk 6 күн бұрын
sounds like a train wreck over there
@devippo
@devippo 6 күн бұрын
For english only positions it could be.
@James-yl3kk
@James-yl3kk 6 күн бұрын
@@devippo I'm a dev in the UK and I can get a spouse visa, but I don't have the Japanese, so I guess if have to teach English
@devippo
@devippo 6 күн бұрын
@@James-yl3kk You can dev In Japan no problem. Having a spouse visa is a cheat code.
@illuminatedtiger
@illuminatedtiger 9 күн бұрын
Even people who work at Woven struggle to get people they know jobs there 🙁
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
Do you mean Woven devs are trying to bring in a friend? Neverly every devs I know in Tokyo tried to apply for woven Toyota. I'm pretty sure they over hired and over paid a bunch of foreign devs. To be honest I have no idea what they do. I wasn't the right fit. So maybe they are looking for absolute master coders or some unique personality.
@illuminatedtiger
@illuminatedtiger 8 күн бұрын
@devippo just lamenting the fact that nobody gets in these days even if you've got someone on the inside vouching for you. Whether they overpay, I'm not one to comment.
@hannesRSA
@hannesRSA 9 күн бұрын
Nice video bro, very considerate to your girlfriend to speak softly.. but not sure she'd take kindly to being called "the dog".
@devippo
@devippo 9 күн бұрын
I have a dog. He was sleeping and if I speak loudly at night he gets annoyed.
@adriantepes-qu8wm
@adriantepes-qu8wm 8 күн бұрын
why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why do you keep appearing in my feed... be gone
@devippo
@devippo 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for commenting! See you next time!
@adriantepes-qu8wm
@adriantepes-qu8wm 8 күн бұрын
@@devippo ill send a ninja to steal your laptop
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