soobeanie_ idol Insider about how their social media is managed. For example when do they can have own accounts, what are they allowed to post and what happens to their social media they had before being a trainee ?

Are they allowed to have there phones?? 🤔

Okay real talk I have some serious questions about a specific topic: cash monies $$ cha-ching! Nothing personal though, only technical questions about how it works. I always wondered how salary works. Like for an indie rock band for example, the members will split the profit, or agree to make a bank account for the group and pick from that to buy things directly related to the group like buying a van for touring or better equipment for recording, etc. Idol groups obviously work very differently, but I can't see the mathematical logic between these 2 examples: Group A has 4 members, Group B has 8 members. Both groups have the same kind of popularity, they bring in the same profit per year. Does each member of Group A get paid more from the split? Or is there a fixed salary per contract which means members of Group A and Group B are paid the same. If they are all paid the same it means there is extra money floating from the Group A since less total money is given to members, where does that money go? It just seems to me like there is not really a "fair" case either way. Are all members paid the exact same? For example is the leader paid more or a member who does a lot of extra stuff for the company would they be paid more or is that just considered "part of their job" on the contract? If a member has obviously more lines or is the center, are they paid more? Groups who hire a choreographer obviously have to paid this person, but if a member of the group makes the choreography, is that member getting paid the same? If a main dancer has extra task of teaching the dance to other members, are they getting paid for this? If a marketing company wants to hire an idol to make a CF or advertisement, do they have to go through the company and does the idol get all the profit or does the company take a cut, by virtue of "owning the idol", without even participating in this project? Are members salary based on % of profit? Is it a fixed number? Can that number change every year to reflect the growth of the group? Is it possible to get a raise? Or the opposite, would a bad year mean getting paid less for that year? Does the amount of work in a year affect total yearly salary at all? Does yearly profit affect that? Or does salary stays the same until an "official revision" or something like that? I'm aware of the "debt" idols have to repay to their company but if the company takes every profit for that, considering a group that takes a while to become profitable, all that time it takes to become big enough there's more stuff to pay every month, is it just adding up to the total debt, making it even longer to pay off? Are idols getting paid a little while paying off the debt or are they extremely dependent on their company? What if a group never becomes profitable? Is it just the company losing their gamble or do idols have to pay something on top of already being broke from not even being able to pay off the debt? On the contract we often hear about what the idols have to do or what they are not allowed to do, are there things the company has to do? I've heard of problem with companies not fulfilling their contract like Minzy's recent issues. What happens at the end of a contract? If there was money saved up for some plans for the group, is that all spend on the last project/album or what? Realistically even after a group's contract is done, they can still sell albums, how is that money distributed? Do idols see any of this post-contract money or do they get a one time "contract done" bonus and whatever sells after that goes to the company? I know that's a lot, but that's been on my mind forever. If you could have Ashley weigh in on this like a duo idol insider that would be amazing since some of these questions are basically situations happening to her right now or have happened very recently. I love seeing you popping up in her vlogs lol. Bonus questions (because this wall of text is not big enough I know): In the cases of groups changing members, how does that work? Like CLC and Dreamcatcher adding 2 new members after a while, is it just the company taking the risk of adding more members and paying them the same, or is the "group pay" a big pool that is now split more ways meaning the original members are now paid less? If it's a fixed pay, are new members paid less than the original members kinda like in a "normal job" where years of experience mean higher salary? What about a case like BOL4, Jiyoon leaving, is Jiyoung now paid more, not just based on the "split" idea but also because she will most likely have to do more things by herself now. More work should mean more money, right?

i’m mostly curious about trainee life. what are their everyday schedules and limitations as trainees?

Idol insider about do trainees and idols go to therapist for their mental health ? And do kpop companies force idols to dye/bleach their hair eventually ?

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Omg I shouldn’t have laughed so hard. We blinks are in a drought 😂

despite the lack of comebacks, they're actually very active. do you know how many photoshoots and other stuff they have in a month?

@@elliez5342 maybe thats why on there videos they uploaded FROM COACHELLA LAST YEAR said "20 years in the desert" ;-;

@@abr4xas why the photoshoots if they won't have a comeback

I think it depends on the mangers/members just everything 🙏🙏🙏

Also twice and apink are close with both their male and female managers. It just depends if the members and the managers are sociable or not.(momo did couple of vlive with their managers teaching them yes or yes and fancy and it is so funny)

Dreamcatchers' managers are well known for trolling the girls.

SNSD are so close to their managers, to the point where the members bully them lol

Gfriend too. I think it’s great to see idols interact well with their managers

and thank you for making this video! it's really interesting

I agree They do a lot much respect!

Especially Super Junior's managers 😂

Sadly some dont see the boundaries :( anyway, its really nice that there are people like you who appreciate

I love good managers,

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soobeanie_ spill the tea sis

Vicky omg my exact thoughts

YG and his wife

Karolina Grela Yang Hyun- Suk and Lee Eun Ju

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@@soobeanie Can we get a story time on that too? (without slipping names of course) 👀

Girl did I miss something???

I think it happens with the group 14U

Kilian U which member??

it really depends for the dance, they could get a choreographer to create the dance for them whether its an outside company like 1M or Freemind or maybe within their own company they have their own choreographer (or some idols can actually take part in making it). The choreographer will receive the song in advance, when the choreo is made they'll send it to the company for approval, sometimes its a mix of different choreographers like RV - Psycho, or they could take the choreo as is like Mamamoo - Gogobebe. They usually have a few days - a week to learn it (Twice-Fancy took 3 days if I'm not wrong, Cherry Bullet-Hands up took 1 week I think). They could learn the dance from the actual choreographers, (Mamamoo learned Hip with Minny Park & Lia Kim at their company studio), or it's possible to learn the dance from the sample video and get approval and make changes as needed (sometimes the choreo is too intense to sing it at the same time). The dance practice is exactly what u said, it's meant to show a complete version of the choreo without any moving angles like in music shows.

I'd totally love a video on this too.

Yes the makeup is so pretty and fresh! It looks a little different from her usual to me?

Look at twices comebackkk , they film behind the scenes and like the mv filming ❤️❤️ especially with fancy

Mamamoo has a lot of behind the scenes videos (mmmtv). Check out the ones for hip, for example, they show progress over several days (mmmtv6 ep1-4). And Solar has several *an idols day" videos on her channel (solarsido). Also lots of behind the scenes from music shows.

yeahh its honestly so wholesome

PA as in physician assistant? Could you please share more details?

@@kingyongie5828 lol my mistake thank you!!

@@kasey2743 personal assistant - PA

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Mariyam Thuga Abdhulla lmao I changed it after a heated argument with my parents haha

@@marwakaddari5287 the DUH at the end is the best lol, its like talking to yourself about it and trying to calm down😂😂

Chai Zan exactly 😭😭

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@@soobeanie you really are 😍 what foundation are you using?

I was totally focused on her looks the first 5 min of the video.

Same!

It’s probably old taking into consideration that it’s a very active job, moving around etc.

30s pretty old to youngsters lol

@@aishafranki lmao so you think people in their 30s have problems with being active and moving around?

@@ayeyo5097 It just surprised me because she's in her mid 20s and would call someone "very old" who's in their 30s haha

Suho did what?

Yeah, Exo members each have a manager. Plus Exo’s Lay probably has a whole team working for him.

@@googleuser5831 he went to the army

Why? Whats the difference between sharing a room with a member and manager? I'm sure they've gotten close with some of the managers over the years, they spend almost every day together

I thinks its half half sometimes idols need their space too

@@afya7595 This is just personal preference and opinion. Everyone feels different about it. For me it would be like sharing a room with your sibling (member) or sharing a room with your dad (manager). Once again, everyone is different. I'm sure they have gotten close to their managers and spend every day together and maybe that's also a reason why some people might feel that they DON'T want to share a room with their manager.

@@soobeanie Agreed.

I could never share a room with a manager, no matter how close we are. At the end of the day, no amount of closeness can change the fact that they are your manager and their job is to watch what you're doing. Just knowing that would turn me off so bad ugh I want privacy in bed, I want it to be the time of day where I can fully relax with my members or alone. Not having to STILL be under the watch of my manager. What if I am dating and want to text my bf or wanting to talk to my members about something personal? In my opinion, managers shouldn't be able to sleep in the same room as members so they can have that privacy. On god, I'd go mad in that situation.

Yeah sometimes its scary

soobeanie_ I’m curious like does counterflowing legit happening especially when you guys are in a rush?

That only makes me think of Ladies Code

Too many accidents. Companies should not schedule idols in such a way that managers drive crazy trying to make it.

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soobeanie_ aww 🥺 you welcome 💕

I guess with some of them 15/16 it'd be oldish 😂

Tbh it really isn’t that old to be 30 and be a manager since the majority of managers tend to be in their 40s to 50s so around that pre retirement age.

She said older not old

@@raygin6581 she did say some tend to be same age or older, but then she said "there are a lot of old managers too, I would say like 30s and some even late 30s, 40s..."

Haha exactly! People in 30s and 40s have wisdom ok!

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oooooooo yess that's such an interesting topic!!!

Thank you!! Yes she is🥺

He was G-dragons manager, and he just came back from military

hes not nice at all, he just stole a billion money to lisa since debut but the money is not really the big deal, its all about the trust that lisa gave to him, im really disappointed to that manager, hays:(((

@@ygjunghwaaan1207 Yes, wow, I was just reading about that on twitter. Poor Lisa, she must have felt so shocked and hurt. He was like her Korean big brother and he betrayed her trust like that. It's horrible.

@@junpi8562 yeah:((( hope she gets fully better soon as possible with her struggling in fear and anxiety.❤

Bannie Sanchez why what happened????

i think maybe some of them are allowed to have like free time or something, tho that is quite interesting i hope she answers this maybe

Yeah it depends on the setting too

But like you mean on the festival? Or just the streets of Seoul? Which ones did you see?!🤗💞

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soobeanie_ uuhhh....lol

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idols don't get mobbed everywhere they go, it happens at airports though when people know ahead of time

people gotta live their own lives, right? They can't be chasing idols all the time lol For real, though, I think idols will probably pick quieter, smaller, areas to film in when there's not too much traffic. Or, like I said, their fans are busy doing their own thing like running errands, going to school, going to work, etc. I'm not an idol, though, so I can be wrong.

I honestly feel like mangers stop anyone approaching them and tell em no pictures sorry

@민지 true!!

@민지 wow thanks for commenting! I was actually starting to believe that idols dont really go out or take walks around the streets😂😂😂 im glad they can go outside without being disrupted or followed/stalked.

me lol. I mean i think ppl only find it fun because theyre often thinking about it being a party everyday while youre able to be close to their fav idols. But i see it as a job where you need to take care of someone who might be a dick, and not having much social life cuz youre a phone call away from ending that date or whatever youre doing to go look after the group or the artist.

Same... being a manager sounds like a really tiresome and soul sucking job where you can get burnt out easily because your life is your work.

I know it's just like being a nanny for the idol. You take care of literally making sure they're on schedule, they not lost, plan their time just so much

me too..

Me too. Actually, the word "manager" is exhausting in itself.

No one is ever going to know that unless the people in question say so

I’m sure that there are some relationships in groups, but most of it is probably fan service. Also everyone is different, I have friends who are really affectionate so that could be the case for some idols too.

Hmm make sense. I also wondering if they watched their pairing edits on youtube. Like are they just gonna okay with that or felt disgusted or uncomfortable with their pairs. Haha I'm so curious

@jeonghan x yoongi Groping isn't actually a big deal though and I don't think its fan service. I've seen korean boys grab e/o's butts in a joking manner.

that's so difficult to do since managing your own agency takes a business mind, and most artists are creative minded. those skills are as different to each other as math is to dancing. they'd have to find an incredible team, as the schedule of a working artist doesn't allow them to do all that managerial work at the same time. massive props to jay park and psy for establishing their own labels

@@tillycomedy2194 kang daniel and ravi as well

Awww thank! Enjoy the video!

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Who is Jennie manager? Can you give me link?

Ramesh Uprety her ex bodyguard is this guy on suit, but now he’s working with twice kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hriRdamlrc_Ylmw.html

Because he stole a billion to Lisa. Like, its so sad that Lisa trusted him

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No problem!!!

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Awwwww always good to see you here!

I tried🙏😊

@@soobeanie You nailed it *\(^o^)/*

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😂😂😂 I know I try my best to make them shorter but there was a lot of questions

Long is GOOOD

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I think it's because each member has a stylist (I'm pretty sure it's the case with SM's groups, SJ for sure, but they have a lot of solo activities so that may be why) or there at least more than 1 stylist for a group, I've heard several idols from different groups refer to "my stylist" when talking with another member.

I wouldn't call it bad rather "not your taste"

@Liv L I agree coz it's just not us but everyone can see the difference in their outfits. Some seems so expensive while some look cheap . It's just idols who are able to rock in them

@@leighanneisagoddess4421 i get what you are saying, but im really into fashion and lemme tell you... sometimes stylists really do them dirty😂😂😂 like you can see how much thought they put into some members outfit compared to others.

@@chaizan9733 True...data exactly what I'm talking about☹

Hey!! Good seeing you hereee

In a way but also telling them what they have to do that day and taking them around the place

I noticed that. They aren’t actually managers by western definitions. Maybe chauffeur/personal assistant. I’m still trying to figure this one out. Sounds like an overinflated job title 😂.

They also have to make sure their idol maintains their image on camera, meets schedules, interacts with broadcasting companies for them, accompany them in public settings, you know M A N A G E them. It’s a combination of your work manager and a personal assistant, and every company and group has different ways their managers take part in their lives. Some are far more strict and others are like family.

Reyanna Corf Almost more Handler/Wrangler, depending on how intense the company’s scrutiny and expectations.

BigBrutal BassBeer yeah it’s pretty much an all in one position

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Maybe for overseas promotions

soobeanie_ adding on to that, I’ve noticed that if a kpop group is signed to an American label they usually have managers assigned to them from that label (not their korean ones) cuz I know nct 127 has an American manager from capitol records. So I think only for overseas promotions like she said

@민지 oh God no that's not what I'm saying. I actually have an interest in managerial type jobs and if I were to be one it would not be for the purpose of getting close to idols that idea scares me. I purely asked out of plain curiosity please don't get the wrong idea.

@민지 Thank you for the insight and I'll keep that all in mind!!

@민지 then how about crews? Those that work on designing concepts/outfits or just production for short? Im taking production design which I have to work with celebrities. Is it same for being a manager?

Awwwww thanks 😊

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Probably their manager 🤷

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That was a really bad rumour going around like a year ago which sadly most people still believe, but that's not the case. Although the managers get a lot of hate they are doing their job and the members like them too! :)

@@vaishnavinistala8312 yea i also watched few videos where theyre close with their managers im pretty sure they are close to each other.

SM is known to have more than 3 managers for their groups. (Exo members even have their own manager each) so the same goes for NCT. I think there is/are certain managers that are too strict or not close to the members though that's why there are inconsistent videos. (Ex: the vid where the manager telling RJ to stop talking, but there is a vid where Chen and Jae troll their manager and even call him hyung.) The managers also change from time to time.

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