The TRUTH about Pre-emergent. What THEY DONT WNAT YOU TO KNOW.

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Жыл бұрын

Am I crazy to be telling people to stop applying pre-emergent on their lawns? Well the reality is, I'm not telling people to do that. I'm saying that certain people probably don't need to do it. In this video I'm going to explore multiple different pre-emergent options as people have done many times in the past. As we come in the spring time this becomes a very popular topic, and some people need reminding every year. I'm hoping that the people who watch my channel have pretty much got this dialed in.
Now, if you have stories about how you have not applied to Pre emergent and how it's gone poorly for you in the past or how you've had great success, why don't you let everybody know down in the comments below. You'll notice, I'm not asking anybody to subscribe or to make any comments to my videos anymore. You are all grown ass people and you can figure out how and when that's appropriate.
Pre-emergent is a wonderful crab grass preventer, you're pretty much still guaranteed to have some weeds as not everything can be controlled. However, doing an application will potentially save you some time in some money later on in the season. As for me, I'm going to continue on my 25+ year trend of not applying any pre-emergent to any lawn that I have ever owned.

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@johnheimel5594 Жыл бұрын

I’m in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and pre emergents are important here, especially if you have neighbors that don’t pay attention to weeds.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

I agree. If I had warm season turf I’d push them hard.

@timborski1210 Жыл бұрын

If I had your scenario 100%, unfortunately like most, my neighbors have weed fields and not grass.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

It happens. But remember, I’m literally surrounded by all manner of natural weeds. All sides are a war zone. So I created natural Buffers

@gerryhenning7337 Жыл бұрын

John your timing is spot on as usual, I was just on the phone with my brother and we were discussing pre-emergents. Him and I watch not only your channel but others like you in the constant battle to achieve greatness in our own turf? We believe that Mother Nature is an adverse opponent!

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

She can be a tricky B if you’re not playing the same game.

@chris_schenkel 11 ай бұрын

If mother nature is your opponent then you better get used to losing. Pitiful americans.

@brandonhyden9454 Жыл бұрын

Nicely said. Pre-e going down soon. Enjoy the videos. Thanks

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@davidhires7403 Жыл бұрын

Thank y so much for this. Everyone talks about get prodiamine down but nobody really talks about it not working for broadleaf. In western WA we don’t really have crabgrass so prodiamine is a waste. Thanks for enlightening me. Btw how do you have time for videos when you should be skiing EVERY SINGLE DAY with your snow cycle. What an epic year for you guys. I hope you’ve been enjoying it.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Just read the labels for target weed suppression and you’ll know the best choice to use.

@steved.5628 Жыл бұрын

As usual great info: can’t wait for pileahose videos 😅

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Coming soon!

@Aerialphotovito Жыл бұрын

good info John ! appreciate it

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@mwoody1958 Жыл бұрын

Great video John. I hand pick the weeds in my lawn here in upstate SC but I’m not brave enough to go pre-emergent free with a dormant Bermuda lawn

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

I wouldnt do it if I were you either. warm season turf has a different level of affliction in the winter especially.

@PacificNorthwestLawns Жыл бұрын

I'm debating skipping the preM myself this year and see what happens. Eventually you really don't need it every single year. Definitely skipping any video for it. Well done JP. 👊🏻

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

You’ll know real quick if it was a good idea

@PacificNorthwestLawns Жыл бұрын

@@Lawncology I may just to have to find out 🤔

@davet8602 Жыл бұрын

You ever win the Poa battle?

@daflea66 Жыл бұрын

I agree, no Pre-E 😀 I know I am a nutcase but I actually like to seed in the spring now, so pre-E options are obviously small. We have consistently wet spring but fall has been hot and dry for years now, and so I throw when I know it will rain.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

I reserve the right to change my mind in the future but for 20 years… no pre

@maltedbarley1 Жыл бұрын

We hear ya !! Lather rinse repeat. This area of turfgrass management has not changed in many years

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Pretty much. Already trying to figure out how I’ll change the front message of this without changing the vintage portion for next year

@bluegrassbuddhallc7542 Жыл бұрын

John, we talked about this last year. I haven't used a pre on my home lawn in 13 years. I've hand pulled a few crabgrass plants in all that time. I have many residential lawns I think I could skip.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

I agree

@reallmccoy9043 Жыл бұрын

As a fellow applicator I am just too damn nervous to find out that 90% of my lawns had crabgrass after not using it and the sheer time and materials needed to correct my mistake could be tragic!

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

@@reallmccoy9043 yes you’re right and I hope I made that clear in the video that as a pro, it’s a tool that can save you big time later. I spoke with a guy this January, a large LCO in Montana. Same situation as me, never applies because there is no environmental pressure.

@bubblehead5394 Жыл бұрын

I skipped the last two apps and am paying for it now. In Florida, weeds grow year round. Been targeting weeds with glyposate foam until the lawn gets over this drought. Then it's spraying and praying, growing and mowing time.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

You need to stay on the pre game. Like 2x annually.

@travistate2468 Жыл бұрын

I live in the Texas panhandle(Amarillo) area and the wind blows all the time. I have a mix grass mostly Bermuda. I have the ferti lome containing Dimension. Am I putting the wrong stuff down??

@factsoverfeelings21 Жыл бұрын

I’m in Denver Colorado and the past two years I’ve noticed the “great poa annua” has made itself known within my front yard. My front yard over the years has taken a beating(courtesy of someone purposely trying to kill my grass, great neighbors) but keeps coming back better and better until this crap grass has popped up. My yard is a bluegrass, so any helpful suggestions to get rid of this crap. Thanks.

@johnkaneiii9167 Жыл бұрын

Johnny I only have a problem with clover, But I still have that stuff you told me to get a few years ago I forgot the name, It seems all my neighbors weeds blows over to my house👍🤣😂

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Lol. You gotta stay on top of that. It was T-zone right?

@johnkaneiii9167 Жыл бұрын

Yes that's right buddy, you remembered!!

@full_metal2452 Жыл бұрын

I spray my bluegrass until it’s as yellow as sweet corn with Prodiamine

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

😂😂 Love it

@johnfetter3252 Жыл бұрын

Put down prodiamine last month here in Ft Worth and will put down Dimension and Gallery next week. Better living through chemistry, I say! Seriously though, my neighbors in the subdivision don't do much pre emergent, so we have lots of weed pressure (both grassy weeds and broadleaf) in the 'hood.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

You need to keep it up. My lawn vs yours are different animals and if I was there I’d do what you’re doing.

@Striperman Жыл бұрын

Good info. For me there will be no pre - em being put down. Never had crabgrass and other weeds will be hand pulled of Glyphosate. 😁

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

you and me pal.

@dustinwalden7091 Жыл бұрын

Here in east Texas it never really gets cold enough where grassy weeds are dormant so pre emergents have little effect.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

How about that. See em, nuke em

@davidscales1464 Жыл бұрын

Hands down Scott’s products are the best!

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Their sales numbers would agree… or at least they are the most widely available and recognized brand for homeowner fertilizer

@mikehouser5430 Жыл бұрын

All in

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

always

@TofuInc Жыл бұрын

I don't use it. Weather is so crazy here it makes the timing difficult. Selectively using post emergents as needed early in the season is what I do.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

It’s way easier and you use so little that way.

@BenjaminT.Minkler Жыл бұрын

I've never used it, maybe I should have years ago, but now I don't feel like I need it that much or at least not anything anymore that requires a blanket full yard apply ....and then when I do get any weeds now, they only come later in the year after they mature in neighbor lawns, and have new seeds drift over; so by that time any early spring pre emergent wouldn't be effective

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Just a little 2-4d and you’re good to go

@donaldricher8815 10 ай бұрын

What is best for tons of dandelions and black medic

@josephsmith6613 Жыл бұрын

Don't make a Rookie mistake, stick with your preemergent it's good insurance and keeps you off your knees all day pulling winter weeds in the spring.

@bcohodas Жыл бұрын

First time home owner here and I wasn’t aware of pre emergent and my yard turned to shit. Gotta lose to learn I guess

@sukhpalbasran4214 Жыл бұрын

Watching this video and being dejected because corn gluten meal is the only pre-emergent available to us. (West Coast of Canada)

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

That sucks.

@RioTheHitman Жыл бұрын

Damn you and your black and white vintage footage hurting my eyes 😆 🤣

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Vintage footage can be tough on people 😂

@njphil1279 Жыл бұрын

My lawn has gotten super thick over the past 2 years and for me, it's a waste to spray the entire 2 acres since no weeds can ever get through the grass. The 5lb of prodiamine I have will probably last the ext 10 years. But I do apply it early spring and late summer to the flower beds, areas under pine trees and along the property lines, and driveway edges to keep down crabgrass and Japanese stilt grass. It's really good stuff but to just use it all over, all the time is a waste. Know your property and your problem areas and treat accordingly.

@lou8891 Жыл бұрын

I have prodiamine but have honeybees this year an im going towards not putting out a premergant. Lawm has bin lush an vigorous. Deep root system.

@mypolitical Жыл бұрын

I'm in the transition zone and grassy weeds are abundant. This is the first year trying a pre-emergent to get the upper hand and maybe next year won't be so challenging.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

give yourself a few years before making any big changes

@rugrad98 9 ай бұрын

Is Dimension safe for children and pets? If not, is there a safer alternative?

@Lawncology 9 ай бұрын

The label will dictate safety standards and when used as directed, yes it is safe. A good run of thumb is to water the material I’m deeply and allow to dry before returning to play.

@fadetoblack51 Жыл бұрын

I’ve never applied a pre emergent and have weeds 99% under control with occasional hand pulling and once a year tenacity

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

I will continue on not applying to my own lawn. Not only that, if I started a lawn care company again, I still wouldnt use it here.

@brinks128 Жыл бұрын

What can I use for clover?

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Sulfentrazone

@johnjrkean7008 Жыл бұрын

I planted my lawn from dirt last spring had no choice couldnt have a mudd pit with the kids this is my second year coming up and I have poa all over tje place so iam at war

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Lol. Nuke it

@valeriek5020 Жыл бұрын

Is there any one out there that can keep this lawn stuff easy. I am looking for a process that will get me out there and take care of the lawn. Simple steps. I like organic and don't mind digging up a few weeds, but I do have weeds and they piss me off. I have a life other than lawn dedication and do not judge those that love this work and it shows. From all the information out there, it seems that pre-emergent is good in the spring, but you better get the timing right. I don;t like that option, is there something else. I cut my grass once a week and water if needed. I like Melorganite or something similar to apply on the dates indicated on packaging. I will seed in the fall. Can that be an option. Respectfully.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Send me an email answers@lawncology.com

@seapanther53 Жыл бұрын

Good job, you got your view with your click bait thumbnail. The majority of people who are using preemergents know what weeds they have and why they need it.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

So you’re saying that I communicated with you enough to peak your curiosity? That’s awesome! And I don’t believe most people know what weeds they have. “Most” people can identify one or two weeds, “some” can identify more.

@seapanther53 Жыл бұрын

@Lawncology just something to think about; short-term vs. long-term gains. You got a view now bc I thought I needed STOP applying preemergent. What I really learned, however, is that your titles are click bait. So, while I'm still learning from pros, like yourself, I'm more likely to scroll past your videos so as to not waste my limited time seeking the guidance I need.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

@@seapanther53 excellent. Did you watch and learn? If you did watch, you’d know that I talked about what to consider rather than saying flat out, “it’s time to apply pre emergent everyone!” And if you in fact we’re hoping to not apply pre emergent by watching the vid, you could consider if you need it or not. Further, 6 different ore emergent options were talked through with benefits included. Now, the proper eye catch was all that was needed for truly long term gains. More new viewers are finding the content and that’s the point. I am going to be showing so many ways to save time and get rid of the “have to’s” that plague lawn care content. Further, this video is seeing people stay on for a long time. The retention is massive. This means the message does in fact match the title. I wish I was good at clickbait titles, I’m just not.

@steffen707- Жыл бұрын

Okay, put out each of these at max rates is what I heard........ 🤣🤣🤣

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Full send

@davidscales1464 Жыл бұрын

…. I’m a lawn enthusiast that has applied many brands of liquid macro & micro nutrients to my lawn(waste of time & money). Go with a reputable brand like Scott’s or Lesco granular fertilizer and your lawn will be the envy of the neighborhood.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

I love personal lawn care as it all opinion and rarely based on equality of facts. Fact: if you put the same amount of nutrient out in equal measure whether granular or liquid, you will get the same result.

@davidscales1464 Жыл бұрын

Fact: liquid dissipates faster than granular. Irrigation frequency as well as weather conditions play a huge factor in overall results. Definitely be an opinion on equal results

@davidscales1464 Жыл бұрын

…. Also liquid applications can be skewed by several variables like water pressure from source , nozzle flow rates

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

@@davidscales1464 yeah…. I think you’re overthinking it. If that’s your thought process, granular is even more skewed as there’s less uniformity, unclear amounts moving through the spreader, potential clogging, walking speed, and inability to easily weigh your material.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

@@davidscales1464 if you apply urea granular and urea liquid the same day, your lawn will fade at the same time.

@ColeSpolaric Жыл бұрын

You probably also used old footage so you could get to the slopes faster 😂

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Yes. Damn it you know me so well. What I did do is trim the fat out of that video

@lancescott1453 Жыл бұрын

I’ve skipped Pre E now 2 Eatons in a row I spot spray or pull the few weeds I get . I’m either lucky or just goes to show folks trying to make a buck off of your ignorance ? Either way I got the greenest yard in the neighborhood and it’s already green to star the spring

@golddigger9326 Жыл бұрын

Washington is anti anything that may help your lawn , can't get prodiamine or any product that contains prodiamine shipped to Washington, I've tried to no avail

@trevormuggeridge4560 Жыл бұрын

First Aussie 😁. Honest John. 🤠

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Straight up

@ryan611ful Жыл бұрын

Indaziflam #1

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

specticle fan?

@docsteve309 Жыл бұрын

Hiya John!…most beautiful lawn in Utah brother!…Mr Dan De Leon moved to French Lick!👏👏🤣🤣☮️👑🏀

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Lol. Thank you my friend!!!

@TexasVeteranLawnService Жыл бұрын

Why does you just mix all of these and spray it once time instead of having sooooooo many options.

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Because some work on some grasses, some in others, some on some weeds and some in others. There’s many tools in a Swiss Army knife and you never use them all at once.

@blankman6626 Жыл бұрын

Your timing stinks😢

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Lol

@Bluebloods7 Жыл бұрын

Muahahaha, yes, yes, follow this foolish advice... we crabgrass seeds are counting on your foolishness to pave the way for our WORLD DOMINATION! Most of the world is grass covered, and WE will do the infesting! (Seinfeld fans will get that last line, maybe).

@Lawncology Жыл бұрын

Lol. Hopefully they actually watch the video and apply for all the reason mentioned… Newman.