The Truth Behind Lord of the Rings Desecration

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Ай бұрын

Lord of The Rings: The Rings of Power season 2 is nearing release on Amazon Prime. But alongside Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim would these be classed as on part with J. R.R. Tolkien's original trilogy? Frodo and the fellowship destroyed the one ring and Sauron, but Rings of Power seeks to show their creation. Do JD Payne and Patrick McKay have the ability to match Tolkien's writing? Or is there something different in Hollywood that prevents them being able to reach the quality of those stories. Is Rings of Power season 2 on Amazon Prime worth watching?
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@disparutoo Ай бұрын

Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power and The War of the Rohirrim are just months away and what we know, is shaping up as you would expect. But the problems with Lord of the Rings seem to highlight a consistent problem in Hollywood as a whole. Comparing them to Tolkien simply makes this more evident as he was so much better than they are at writing, with significantly more life experience. This seems counter productive that our writers have less life experience than ever before, while feeling that they need to put themselves into the entertainment more than anyone else. With this in mind, Hollywood isn't just going after the wrong audience, they're making such niche pieces of work that only the creators might actually enjoy it. What if the only people Hollywood are willing to hire given their priorities, are people incapable of writing heroes. What if the only solution, is wholesale new hires in the industry? And what impact is this having on War of the Rohirrim and Rings of Power? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)

@MS-iy6cm Ай бұрын

Still the best addendum on the debate.

@skibidi.G Ай бұрын

So, I was thinking, back in the 70s there was much more social coherence within western countries. Globalization was a mistake.

@MrSphandor Ай бұрын

Tolkien also had his buddies in Oxford, you know Cs Lewis and a bunch of other Oxford bloody professors when that still meant you were hugely intelligent help him to make the work better. And these morons think they can write something to match that?

@Wheelie2077 Ай бұрын

@MrSphandor It's even worse, they think that they can improve on Tolkien!

@brockdavid Ай бұрын

This reminds me of how Saladin tried to debase and demean Christian women during the Crusades to try to demoralize men, to try and convince them that there was nothing worth fighting for. These Archon worshipping whack jobs don’t change Their SOPs often, They don’t have the grey matter for it.

@wumpusrat Ай бұрын

"She's headstrong, she's fierce, she's complex, she's rebellious..." So...she's going to be another standard modern-day "girlboss" type. Gotcha. Skip it.

@brainflash1 Ай бұрын

Isn't that Eowen?

@christophertaylor9100 Ай бұрын

Exactly, yawn

@Mereologist Ай бұрын

@@brainflash1 Eowen is not only not a GIRLBOSS, she's almost the OPPOSITE of one. In fact, if you want the archetype of Eowen, you want the same one they used to build Captain America: she's someone who knows indisputably that she is comparatively weak and untrained, but who feels so strongly pulled to do SOMETHING that she keeps trying to volunteer anyway. She's the soldier who lied about her age to enlist. And she doesn't go on to prove she's 'as good as any man'... in fact she accomplishes almost nothing on the field of battle and would have died pathetically if not for the amazing coincidence that the hobbit who felt the same as she did happened to have a dagger forged a thousand years ago to kill specifically the one foe she did end up fighting and she magickally (guided by Ilu) happened to meet the conditions of the Witch-King's fabled end. And then she's an invalid for the rest of the story, stained by evil and left behind to slowly recover.

@coyoteone6197 Ай бұрын

"She's complex." Press X to Doubt.

@Likexner Ай бұрын

@@Mereologist She wasnt a girlboss per se but she definitely was a feminist. She risked being killed as one of the only two descendants of the king, and for what? She knew she would be of little use in battle. She knew she would have been far better employed keeping things running at home in the absence of the men who went to war. Yet she still stubbornly disobeyed and did the stupid thing. I dont see that as a virtue. Also, her "i Am nO mAn" moment felt cringe and contrived. Its awfully convenient that she just happened to be the one who could kill the WK, because she didnt have dangly bits.

@Lonovavir Ай бұрын

My Babushka once told me, I don't care what they tell you in school, Rings of Power isn't canon. She also told me the power of tea is greater than the power of wigs.

@amazingbakingsoda6811 Ай бұрын

Absolutely, those insights are indeed full of wisdom.

@crazylegs1823 Ай бұрын

The Sea is always RIGHT!

@alexneff Ай бұрын

@simdal3088 Ай бұрын

@@crazylegs1823 The power of many, just doling out wisdom at every turn it seems 😂

@N.S.M.C1999 Ай бұрын

The question is did she teach you how to spell you put great instead of greater

@LegendaryDorkKnight 29 күн бұрын

As a black man who grew up in South Central Los Angeles, I find it INCREDIBLY insulting when these people tell me "You're oppressed. You're weak. You're disenfranchised. We will save you!" I "saved" MYSELF. I went to school in a bad neighborhood. I devoted myself to being the best man I could be despite my mother driving away my father. I resisted the urge to do evil, to join gangs, to steal and become a statistic. PISS OFF!! I am not a victim. I am A MAN! A fighter and a survivor. I did all of that myself with the help of my friends and family. No Hollywood executive was there to see me through that.

@86BarbOmega 26 күн бұрын

💯

@websdaspider8811 25 күн бұрын

Hell yeah

@JustIn-mu3nl 24 күн бұрын

Exactly mate, I've always said it's offensive bs.

@tiredman4540 24 күн бұрын

God Speed!

@Lefty217 22 күн бұрын

Respect.

@FlyinBlind Ай бұрын

"Good people understand both good and evil. Bad people understand neither " C. S. Lewis

@stonedog5547 Ай бұрын

"Have you any idea what kind of noise happens when somebody's stabbed in the back?.........Because I do." Christopher Lee Experience counts for a lot.

@Lttlemoi Ай бұрын

This guys life reads like an action thriller.

@stevenscott2718 Ай бұрын

@@Lttlemoi James Bond is a composite character based on real men, Sir Christopher Lee was one of those men.

Ай бұрын

Somehow hearing that would both be cool as hell but terrifying at the same time.

Ай бұрын

@@stevenscott2718 Yep, one of the team was going about America banging wives of senators and such, so that one dude was the playboy part of Bond who could and would bang any lady he could.

@blakecasimir 29 күн бұрын

@@Lttlemoi An action thriller with a bonus metal album. Lee was truly a King-level human.

@MrMacavity Ай бұрын

I like how we as sane fans of Tolkien almost universally reject Rings of Power, and declare it non-canon.

@UnitSe7en Ай бұрын

Well, they never received the license to make a real LotR product. So it literally isn't canon. There is no canon to be added. The story is finished. All that exists, exists. LotR doesn't have an "extended universe". Anything that is not the book is not LotR.

@3-2bravo49 Ай бұрын

I declare it an abomination

@JujFuj Ай бұрын

Rings of power is fanfiction. And bad fanfiction at that

@sarkastodon30 Ай бұрын

@@UnitSe7en but the producers never outright said this, and treated as Canon. By owning the IP, they kind of inferred it. I'd respect it more if the just came out and said it was just fan fiction.

@terrystewart1973 Ай бұрын

@@JujFuj Yes. There is nothing wrong with fanfiction as long as it doeasn't try to be anything but that. Certainly not when it pretends to be the story that the (real) author meant to write. And there is good fanfiction, which respects the original work, and doesn't try to rewrite characters and things, and above all tells a good story that adds to your appreciation of the original. And then there is bad fanfiction, and The Rings of Power is very bad indeed. Really, any story or TV show set in the Second Age of Middle Earth would have been fanfiction. I was just hoping for something much much better, considering all the story threads and hints Tolkien left.

@billbillinger2117 Ай бұрын

"Then darth Jarjar and Bilbo Calrissian slew the jabberwackey, defeated the Clingons, and returned to Narnia." - Amazon LotR prequel pitch

@davfree9732 Ай бұрын

Oooooh, that paragraph of Bobo Biggs where he swooped in and saved F.R.O.D.O.K from Dr Sassymon digivolving... It was everything I ever wanted in a fan fiction.

@billbillinger2117 Ай бұрын

@@davfree9732 ranks right up there with the greats, like when Kirk kicked Sideous in the balls before getting cooked by lightning.

@Blodhelm Ай бұрын

Extra points because they would definitely misspell Klingons.

@xipheonj Ай бұрын

@@Blodhelm That actually triggered me more than anything else in that sentence, other than that it's just your standard low quality fanfic.

@Tr-mx3qs Ай бұрын

You forgot when big foot and the Amazonians came in to help

@MrMirageCaster Ай бұрын

Christopher Lee refused to scream for Saruman's death scene because he knew, from real world experiences, how people react when being stabbed in the back. He served in WW2, as a soldier and as a field agent. And it was his recounting of what he saw, and did, that made his peers encourage him to become an actor. His experiences shaped his ability to tell stories.

@GeraltofRivia22 29 күн бұрын

Christopher Lee was a true badass and Renaissance Man.

@shadowednight1600 29 күн бұрын

He was a real one. He shall be missed

@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access 29 күн бұрын

He was also a bonafide sword fighter, and was one of the big reasons why the Star Wars fight scenes with him look so clean, and why he was chosen for Dooku They wanted him to wield them like broadswords, and he was like “why? It’s a laser rapier. I’d kill you way faster with just a little-“ They don’t make men like him anymore

@user-gb7ji6xy5d 29 күн бұрын

It seems like the age of manly men has come to an end when Tolkien and Christopher Lee passed..

@shadowednight1600 29 күн бұрын

@@user-gb7ji6xy5d And from there, the age of soy men. Those horrid soy men....weak men create hard times indeed

@Jonathan_Collins Ай бұрын

This show was so bad, Critical Drinker is now sober.

@zacharymcmillan2788 Ай бұрын

It's all lies,LIES! Rumors spread by deranged RoP fans,to discredit the great man! Nothing can sober up The Critical Drinker,NOTHING! (Except maybe a nice chicken vindaloo,or some fish & chips.) 😂👍

@TheSuperappelflap Ай бұрын

@@zacharymcmillan2788 or a nice kebab at 4 in the morning

@skylx0812 Ай бұрын

He put the extra A in AA and now people call them when they have a flat on the freeway.

@vincents1087 Ай бұрын

CD, probably: “The reports of my sobriety are greatly exaggerated.”

@jakoparry5453 Ай бұрын

Say it isn't so

@alexandermccabe556 Ай бұрын

"Since it is so likely that children will meet cruel enemies, let them at least have heard of brave knights and heroic courage. Otherwise, you are making their destiny not brighter but darker." - C.S. Lewis

@GH-ub7qz Ай бұрын

starting in government kindergarten

@LRTrack 29 күн бұрын

And turning into Antifa JackSoldiers

@hesiyyn4880 29 күн бұрын

To paraphrase another author - fairytales don’t tell children to be afraid of monsters, they tell them that the monsters can be killed

@jimluebke3869 29 күн бұрын

@@hesiyyn4880 GK Chesterton, wasn't it?

@TallisKeeton 27 күн бұрын

@@GH-ub7qz todays governments policies toward kids, schools, and culture are like Dolores Umbridge toward Hogwart :D

@wwolfwp61 Ай бұрын

Galadriel: "Hit me with all of your strength Sauron."

@charlieflight6124 Ай бұрын

I'm reading this with a very different tone from what you may be intending... Hahaha.

@wwolfwp61 Ай бұрын

@@charlieflight6124 LOL

@MakinaMakinaMakina Ай бұрын

@@wwolfwp61Punish me daddy Sauron

@JB-yb4wn Ай бұрын

Then she'll throw a knife at him. OMG.

@PaulaBean Ай бұрын

Is this referring to the degree of spiceness of a certain dish?

@LilRebelYell Ай бұрын

As Tolkien himself said "Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt!"

@grokeffer6226 Ай бұрын

👍👍👍 Well put. Tolkien didn't need to be "fixed", "enhanced", or "modernized". His work was superlative the way it was. Amateurs shouldn't have been let near his texts.

@aaronaukema1284 29 күн бұрын

Tolkien understood humanity. It was just his "personal experiences" it was his own mindset. He had studied Old English myths and legends, Finnish myths and legends. He had the collective wisdom of humanity at his disposal.

@kesamek8537 21 күн бұрын

Not amateurs, those are professional assassins. They mean to kill it.

@zeroryuj6093 Ай бұрын

So long as you have writers who don't believe good and evil exist, who have no moral framework and who are obsessed with "the self", you'll never get a meaningful, lasting story with a true hero or villain again.

@sianais 29 күн бұрын

Personally, I think we still get a lot of true villains from their bs. The problem is that they write those villains as heroes. They have no understanding of good and evil or right and wrong, but they keep creating these evil characters they try very hard to pass off as heroes.

@Tegelane5 29 күн бұрын

@@sianais Yep, I've wondered honest movie or series of bickering in writers and showrunners room could be quite entertaining. Atleast it's the world they know.

@thorwaldjohanson2526 28 күн бұрын

The issue is that they wrote their own stories and put the sticker of established lore, history and fiction on it. They don't immerse themselves in the source material and stay true to it. Imagine the witcher series with every writer and producer being as immersed and in love with the books and games as Henry Cavill was.

@kokocaptainqc 25 күн бұрын

someone thinking good and evil dont exist should be watched very closely at ALL times

@S4ns Ай бұрын

My grandmother once told me, "Don't ever let anyone tell you that's Halbrand in a wig, that is very clearly a completely different person."

@SojiCalibur Ай бұрын

If they do anything with S2, I hope they play it straight as if he is a different person and nobody recognizes him.

@harbl99 Ай бұрын

Sorry that your nan went completely POTUS in her old age OP.

@BulgyBoar 29 күн бұрын

Did they hire your granny to play Celebrimbor, by any chance? It would explain the costume... That said, I'm sure your granny would also have encountered the concept of creating metal alloys.

@NostyFripples Ай бұрын

“And that’s without seeing modern day Paris” CTFU 😂🤣

@elsmallo Ай бұрын

Diversity is our strength

@Professor__S 29 күн бұрын

@@elsmallodiversity is like a bowl of punch with a turd floating in it.

@joba4848 29 күн бұрын

Diversity built Britain apparently. Must have built France as well. Amazing stuff.

@msmaria5039 29 күн бұрын

He's British. What do you expect?

@MagicE13 Ай бұрын

"Looks like Meats BACK on the Menu Boys!" Has very dark undertones for the effect of starvation in War.

@MWhaleK Ай бұрын

Tolkien's novels were the result of a love of old stories and drawing on the years of study that made him a university professor combined with years of work to not just bang out some story to make a quick buck, but to tell a story set in a world he had been lovingly building for years that would be exactly the sort of places his invented languages would have evolved. Tolkien drew on and reference Norse mythology as well as other, much older, pagan beliefs and mixed in more than a bit of his deeply held Catholic beliefs. He draw on his childhood and how the industrial revolution had changed Britian. Using ancient stories that had withstood the test of time to make something new and that hopefully will last just as long.

@elsmallo Ай бұрын

Despite the travesty of these TV shows, Tolkein's work and influence lives on and flourishes in the hearts of men

@SammEater Ай бұрын

@@elsmalloHis work even resonated with people outside of Britain, as I am a non white third worlder that loved reading the books growing up.

@Jonas-lj8ul Ай бұрын

Combine that with his long-standing and abiding friendship with the estimable C.S. Lewis - one of THE foremost Christian scholars and fiction writers of the time, alongside Prof. Tolkien himself - and you're gonna get stories that ride HARD on the true value of Christian ethics and morality. What the literal f*ck do the degenerates in modern-day, anything goes, "but ma FEELINs" Hollywood know about those things? It's like asking a native Bantu speaker to translate the instructions for a made-in-Japan DVD player into Aramaic.

@mattiaslarsson5647 Ай бұрын

And also his experinces from world war1

@GeraltofRivia22 29 күн бұрын

You forgot his experience in WW1. The parts about Frodo having to leave the Shire is straight up about soldiers with PTSD. Or Faramir, the character Tolkien says he most identifies with, leading a suicidal charge across no man's land against a fortified enemy position.

@Losantiville Ай бұрын

On the battlefield, the smell of death lingers. It clings oppressively to your clothes, your food even water. Stagnant death know to few, that’s real experience. These writers know only throw pillows.

@MajorSmurf Ай бұрын

Some would say their greatest crisis is getting the wrong order at Starbucks. Truly how they suffered and used that TERRIBLE TERRIBLE experience to inspire them. It's amazing just how little writers experience the real world nowadays.

@triciacarr5019 Ай бұрын

THEY SPELLED MY NAME WRONG ON THE CUP!

@seansmith4513 Ай бұрын

Human death is a VERY particular smell. It absolutely permeates throughout the whole battlefield. Quite literally had a squad mate hand out her tampons for us to cram in our noses, and bless her for that. These people's idea of struggling is deciding which Starbucks coffee to get today.

@3-2bravo49 Ай бұрын

The stink of the dead is usually bad enough, but then you have to smell people cook sometimes. That's a whole different kind of stink. If you get the smoke from them on your uniform, you are going to stink to high hell for God knows how long. It's not exactly easy to go about washing clothes in any combat situation at any point in history. It does affect the way things taste and all that, like you said. The way I tried to explain it was that it felt like there was a nasty coating over my sense of smell and taste, like so many layers of paint or something. What Tolkien smelled was far worse, of course. Thank God he survived the trenches. We could have lost lord of the rings to a small piece of shrapnel to the head. It is sad to think of all the other amazing things that might have been made or written if only this or that person had survived.

@skylx0812 Ай бұрын

Thats carbon atoms that separate in decaying flesh. It bonds with your skin, oil, hair, clothes. In your nostrils and the coppery taste in the mouth. Citric acid fromfeshly squeezed lemon juice can often help break the chemical bond. You have to slather yourself in it.

@Johnsmith-ko9yj Ай бұрын

If the entertainment industry stuck to meritocracy in stead of DEI they wouldn't be failing. Where's this "modern audience" they keep claiming want DEI? My money my choice.

@Japaneseanimeguy Ай бұрын

According to a certain spicy fox woman and what she uncovered about stuff like BRIDGE (DEI but implemented into every level of everything), the plan is to cultivate it by raising a confused generation that only know this kind of garbage. The entertainment mediums are just a tool for pushing the ideology.

@Likexner Ай бұрын

If they had meritocracy, most of the highly successful people would be XYs and they cant allow that.

@tkps 29 күн бұрын

The modern audience is Hollywood itself. They live in a bubble of likeminded convinced there's a load of others out there just like them. After all X and Tik Tok keep making them think it's true as they only refer to locksteppers on those as well. With 6 or 7 years of crap that audience has not materialised. If I were the corporates, I'd be admitting that about now. How much more evidence do they need? I suspect though egos won't allow those dreaded words 'I got it wrong'. Only the owners can chuck them out and until they do (Disney's didn't bother) this won't change but at least we can refuse to indulge them and in my case I'll watch world entertainment, not American.

@Ron_Jambo_ 29 күн бұрын

Epstein's friends, all of them. They want to push rainbow propaganda on your children so they are easier to bang.

@wallyman292 29 күн бұрын

They cannot conceive of the notion that there may be people out there that do not think the way that they do. That is why they fail.

@FalloutTributeMusic Ай бұрын

I dont think any movie will ever top the Lord of the Rings Trilogy ever... Its just too iconic for its time and even 20 years later it has the same impact.

@user-nz6dx2fj6h Ай бұрын

Yes, it was shite.

@carolyns99 Ай бұрын

@@user-nz6dx2fj6h Yep. I don't understand supposed Tolkien fans lambasting TROP whilst lauding the movie trilogy. It looked great, the casting was fantastic and it wasn't bad in places as an adaptation - but the fact that Aragorn headed off without the sword re-forged was the start of an unstoppable downhill slide.

@MagicE13 Ай бұрын

Jurassic Park 1993. Robocop 1987. Rocky 1976. There quite a few films that have an 'Impact' and 'Iconic' for the 'Time' - Lifeforce 1985. Goonies 1985. Two very different movies both Iconic and Impactful for the Time. Personally - Lord of the Rings - Great. Twin Towers - Good. Return of the King - By this point I am exhausted, good film but more of the same.

@toolegittoquit_001 Ай бұрын

@@carolyns99I bet your hair is purple 😐

@whatwhat98 Ай бұрын

As much as I enjoyed the trilogy, it still doesn't compare to the original star wars trilogy.

@timhicks8221 Ай бұрын

Sauron destroyed everything in his path. Tony Saprano killed a made man over a horse

@Blodhelm Ай бұрын

And Walter White just wanted to be appreciated for his talents and leave enough money to his family so they would be taken care of when he was gone. They don't even comprehend what Sauron is.

@marcelrossi2155 Ай бұрын

David chase is on record saying Tony killed Ralph because of Tracee, not the horse. Just saying :)

@GH-ub7qz Ай бұрын

soprano was a push over

@sneeringimperialist6667 Ай бұрын

Tony shot his own cousin with a shotgun to appease Phil Leotardo. The man was murder looking for an excuse...

@GH-ub7qz Ай бұрын

@@sneeringimperialist6667 back home, thats just brushing someones teeth... soprano wouldn't have lasted 15 minutes...why Stallone bs mob show is a joke...hed be dead in 3 days

@puddintaim261 Ай бұрын

“We became flowers feeding on flowers!” - Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451. “Out by the shit house is where the sweetest flowers grow.” - David Byrne

@user-ee1wg4ss2e Ай бұрын

i'm reminded of an interview with an older comedy writer i saw once. when asked what the difference between him and modern 'comedy' writers he answered, they only took courses in how to write for tv, we read the classics.

@amazingbakingsoda6811 Ай бұрын

We'll love it when Macho Man Galadriel, resplendent in mithrill, flexes her biceps and tells Sauron: "The only thing shinier than my armor is the top of the tower I'm about to toss you from, ooooh yeah!

@plp666 Ай бұрын

🤣 don’t give them ideas

@SteveB-nx2uo Ай бұрын

when Galadriel told Saurus that she didnt need him because she was a strongk woman, she was so brave that I cried.

@TheDragiix3 Ай бұрын

the worst is that for a second I had to do a double take to make sure this was only a joke 😭😂

@3-2bravo49 Ай бұрын

Can't wait to see the concept art lol

@Blodhelm Ай бұрын

Then she snapped into a Slim Jim.

@adaribleabyss4082 Ай бұрын

As a person from the U.S.A, it really really sucks being lumped in with the people that make these shows. As someone who grew up watching the Lord of the Rings, and Star Wars, and Marvel movies, and who found Doctor Who in his teens and loved it, seeing Holywood and Disney destroy good franchises sucks so much, and then to hear people say "They're inserting their American values instead and making it bad." really hits where it hurts.

@RoseBaggins Ай бұрын

That's not American, that's Hollywood's values.

@darthvader6533 Ай бұрын

England has thought police I feel like if its anyones ideas its theirs

@myarichuk Ай бұрын

This may sound ruthless, but Americans were complacent about Hollywood and their antics for a long, long time. I realized what will happen with Hollywood when I saw what Hollywood did to Starship Troopers story. The issue with Hollywood hasn't started yesterday and yet, Americans as a whole never said anything.

@lingricen8077 29 күн бұрын

@@darthvader6533typical insecure yank

@c99kfm 29 күн бұрын

@@myarichuk It's not only US directors; The trend was already sloping downwards when the Lord of the Rings trilogy was filmed, as Arwen rather than Glorfindel met the hobbits led by Aragorn approached Rivendell. We didn't recognize it as the time, as the trend was not yet as apparent and as the particulars were handled considerably more deftly by Peter Jackson than by modern writers and directors.

@silverscorpio24 Ай бұрын

The themes in The Lord of the Rings and Hollywood's ideology are diametrically opposed.

@deez3913 Ай бұрын

It was made and shot from non Americans.... But things weren't nearly as bad then as it is now in Hollywood.

@Lampoluke 29 күн бұрын

-catholicism -gallantry for men and women -ecologism (real) A bit too much for them

@starshineraiser6729 Ай бұрын

I used to think Tolkien was some dorky phantasy writer, until I read his work. Morgoth and Sauron are brutally terrifying and the exacting definition of evil. It’s the most mind blowing stuff. There’s no way you can get the gist until you really dive in.

@matthewn4896 28 күн бұрын

I will never forgive RoP for turning Finrod Felagund from one of the wisest, and most courageous heroes who ever walked Middle Earth, into a half-wit, whose only contribution was sparking Galadriel the Barbarian's revenge quest.

@wonderveggie Ай бұрын

Didn’t Brave (the Pixar/Disney one) show a good example of the importance of valuing feminine strength? The queen was respected and had authority, but never needed to flail around a sword! One of the main points of the movie was Merida recognizing and learning to respect the strength her mother held, even though it was different from the masculine version her dad demonstrated. We can have powerful fantasy women who are valued for their commitment to duty and family or scheme to bring power to their country WITHOUT making them poorly mimic male fighting. Game of Thrones (for the most part) is also a fantastic demonstration of how men and women show their strength differently and people LOVE that show!

@MarcLL 29 күн бұрын

I would also add that there are plenty of examples of women in say, the Norse Sagas who at first glance look like modern girl bosses, but who still "work" within the values of the society. (Which is why I disagree with Disparu here about women and sword fighting: you just give her a magic sword! See: Hervor and Tyrfing in the Hervarar Saga.) It's a shame Brave was promoted so heavily as standard Girl Boss fare (the preview just used the archery scene where she declares she's a strong woman who don't need no man) whereas the film itself is actually very subtle and sympathetic to the mother.

@dedf15 28 күн бұрын

"Legends are Lessons..."

@madewhole-ev4uy 3 күн бұрын

💯

@JoeBauers Ай бұрын

This guy is next level Truth Speaker. Makes me feel sane! 🎉

@meinname6785 Ай бұрын

yep❤

@Mereologist Ай бұрын

Also makes you smell sane.

@BulgyBoar 29 күн бұрын

I have to say, this is the best single-episode dissection of the utter wretchedness of Rings of Power when it comes down to connecting with the deep truths of human experience. I've saved it to my favourites so I can enjoy it again in the future!

@joba4848 29 күн бұрын

It really is a fantastic piece or writing in its own right.

@JoeBauers 29 күн бұрын

@@joba4848 it’s like a newspaper editorial, but in video essay format. It’s a cogent, passionate argument and I’m all for it.

@tolvaer Ай бұрын

As an American dad, I've been having to start from the beginning with my kids: Humphrey Bogart, Buster Keaton, Red Skelton, Audrey Hepburn, John Wayne and Charlton Heston, David Niven, Richard Burton, etc......before I can even want to try and explain the entropy of storytelling in movies.

@GH-ub7qz Ай бұрын

should start in the beginning...with Adam

@tolvaer Ай бұрын

@@GH-ub7qz yeah, we're Christian so I agree

@GH-ub7qz Ай бұрын

@@tolvaer i didn't spend enough time on it with my 5...i have 2 Christians, and 3 on the fence. It's heartbreaking

@mattiaslarsson5647 Ай бұрын

Christopher lee

@JETBLACKPRIEST Ай бұрын

@@GH-ub7qz If you've raised them well, then they should be intelligent enough to make their own choices with your full support.

@jimheimerl1637 Ай бұрын

Sean Astin's performance as Samwise is an absolute benchmark of breathing believable life into a character that pushed himself to his limits - and beyond - because he HAD to. The alternative was too terrible to imagine. Captivating, just captivating. Yeah, Sam was the real hero of the story, and Sean Astin put that on film fantastically. This modern-day crap? "I'm super gay/insane/whatever and gee whiz I need EVERYONE to know it, so I'm going to write a show based on someone else's respected works and shove in (painfully) my own personal experiences (some real but most imagined) that have NOTHING to do with the original story. Yay me!" FFS. Vote with your wallets, folks.

@EvilDoresh 29 күн бұрын

He really _nailed_ the role of the Hobbit as an unlikely hero.

@brolohalflemming7042 29 күн бұрын

That was also a part that could have been modernised out of Tolkien's class-based conscious. Sam telling Frodo to man up, grow some balls and get up that f'ng hill. Sir. Or the Amazon/Disney version would have Sam as a woman, taking the ring from Frodo because they just don't need a man to do a woman's job.

@EvilDoresh 29 күн бұрын

@@brolohalflemming7042 And she'd wear the ring the entire time with no ill effects, for no tool made by a cis het male shall keep her down.

@keldonpremuda2494 Ай бұрын

Disparu, I love all of your work, but I think this may be one of the best. Thank you.

@Nina-pb9bj Ай бұрын

Your videos are a breath of fresh air, always enjoy watching

@Jonathan_Collins Ай бұрын

The one Show to ruin them all.

@andrewmontague9682 Ай бұрын

“The right side of history” meaningless phrase that is simply a threat to say “Do as I say or I will make you look bad when I win”.

@joba4848 29 күн бұрын

I agree. Such moronic twaddle isn’t it.

@stosh64 Ай бұрын

You have a very good grasp of the shortcomings of 'modern' hollywood.

@michaelnewswanger2409 Ай бұрын

As an American, Hollywood shows are not American anymore.

@user-cz9jj2em2v 27 күн бұрын

But they are. They are the new normal. What was America is now dead and buried, like the Minoans or the Aztec.

@michaelnewswanger2409 27 күн бұрын

@@user-cz9jj2em2v if you believe that you haven't spent enough time with common people.

@DAZzler3K Ай бұрын

"... and that's without even seeing modern day Paris!" Great! 👍👍👍

@alunrafferty5090 Ай бұрын

"Office stock photos".... hahahahahaha.. thats brilliant!!

@Mangolorian-je3eo Ай бұрын

It's legit. Miss Nobody has a long history we need to hear about, like her mom in Aman researching Ungoliant right before she died.

@vespenegas261 29 күн бұрын

For the life of me I never understood why Morgoth had his last stand in the volatile fireworks factory...

@j0b01231 Ай бұрын

Damn, didn’t think I was tuning into a Little Platoon essay. Nice work, Disparu.

@lingricen8077 29 күн бұрын

Eh? If you don’t like disparu, why are you watching him? Theres no need to insult him by comparing him to a talentless spoilt zoomer like lp (and he also uses an attractive avatar like a lot of these ugly ‘analysts’ do)

@Oblithian Ай бұрын

LMAO the Shoe0nHead reference.

@wolfen8622 Ай бұрын

I haven’t watched 5s of rings of power. I’ve concluded that the show is probably better unseen and yes, I live in a beautiful world.

@DylanPWN 29 күн бұрын

Outside of reviews, I haven't watched any of it either. Even if it was the best thing since the LotR trilogy. I wouldn't care. I simply don't want to support Amazon. Knowing it's a shit show as well makes that super easy.

@wolfen8622 29 күн бұрын

@@DylanPWN welcome to the club 🫡

@Boethius4748 Ай бұрын

“Do you know why a ship floats and a stone cannot?” *why $hit…

@geraldmorgan6906 Ай бұрын

My 7yo nephew's response to this was classic. “Do you know why a ship floats and a stone cannot?” Nephew: Buoyancy, dumbass!

@adrenjones9301 29 күн бұрын

Im still upset galadriel and sauron didnt have a baby, called it Frodo and sent it into the future.

@alamataslim5820 Ай бұрын

Disparu, this might be one of the most banger videos I’ve seen you upload. This is the kind of depthful analysis of the mindset of the modern day writer that can’t understand struggle. Fantastic video.

@ASoberBear Ай бұрын

Your break downs hit a new level Disperu. Great seeing your channel grow I think it is deserved.

@Antagon666 Ай бұрын

The Sauron in Rings of Power: "I'M THE ONE WHO SUCKS"

@Jonas-lj8ul Ай бұрын

It is a rare pleasure to see this quality of intellect at work, Disparu. I dunno how old you are, but my missus and I (both in our fifties) wish we could have conversations with our kids that were HALF as mentally engaging as watching your vids. Keep up the good work, sir.

@katthor7311 Ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this one, Disparu. A very well put together video that succinctly yet eloquently describes exactly what is wrong with this show and Hollywood at large.

@cryyc Ай бұрын

25 years without any credits. That deserves some bullying

@bleedingstar1011 Ай бұрын

Man, Tennant is mentally just on another planet right now. “They’ll be gone soon.” We will? How? What are you going to do with us?

@vespenegas261 29 күн бұрын

Annoy everyone until they go away

@joba4848 29 күн бұрын

They will send the brown shirts (or more likely the rainbow shirts) for us soon enough.

@markcochrane9523 Ай бұрын

Ironically, I'd say that despite equally evil, Sauron and Lucifer are actually on opposite ends of the Law/Chaos spectrum. Lucifer fell from grace because he would not obey, while Sauron fell because he believed that he could make everything right if only he was given absolute control.

@headlessfool7050 29 күн бұрын

Lucifer literally means "Lightbringer", and the Archetype exists in various mythologies . The Christian Mythology Lucifer fell because he brought humans insight and understanding - which the Christian God amazingly didnt approve of . That same theme - God wanting humans to stay stupid, is found in the Story of Adam and Eve in Eden .

@lingricen8077 29 күн бұрын

@@headlessfool7050Because paradise comes from ignorance. There is no a single intelligent person who is happy

@regiman222 29 күн бұрын

@@headlessfool7050So Lucifer is akin to the Christian Prometheus? Punished for giving knowledge to the stupid humans,

@davidyuste1956 29 күн бұрын

@@lingricen8077 Facts.

@Miluielle 29 күн бұрын

Not opposite really both stem from arrogance and a lack of humility.

@somedeplorable2227 Ай бұрын

Got damn Disparu, another banger. Spot on mate.

@phatpat63 Ай бұрын

Disparu is one of the few who _really_ gets what's actually going on.

@lingricen8077 29 күн бұрын

This. He is leagues above imbeciles like Nerdrotic who just blame China for everything (i.e they literally believe a news article written by the same people that he calls out for having an agenda, peak stupidity)

@exomake_mehorololo Ай бұрын

Everyone in Tolkien's writings including the unnamed deserve better than being ruined by Amazon. Even smaller characters in his writings are relatable and real. They're not empty shells

@redfoxninja3173 Ай бұрын

When evil is seen the same as good all is lost!

@theelder4797 Ай бұрын

It's being elevated above good these days - because the holders of power ARE e_val, they want it normal, so they can stop hiding.

@GH-ub7qz Ай бұрын

its the predicted eventual state...given over to delusional minds ...

@robertbryant4669 29 күн бұрын

Payne and McKay: "From our point of view Galadriel is evil!" Tolkien readers: "Then you really are lost!"

@oteliadavid7507 Ай бұрын

Love your style, keep rocking it!

@GeraltofRivia22 29 күн бұрын

Hera is a Greek name. Tolkien would never use it for such an obviously Anglo-Saxon inspired culture. So either the writers don't understand Tolkien's work or they don't care. Either way, its gonna suck.

@JohnnyScribe 29 күн бұрын

This shit is physically painful and I’m not joking. On behalf of non-Californian Americans… I’m so so sorry we allowed them to do this. We should have let them declare independence when we had the chance

@dereknewbury163 29 күн бұрын

Eloquently and powerfully argued and I agree with everything you said. What is especially galling is that writers of shows such as the "Acolyte" don't allow their values to infuse a well constructed story but use dreary characters to preach at us in the most superficial way. They really appear to despise their audience

@ms.tiadaniel8415 Ай бұрын

I love your videos ❤ You have a way of expressing what we all feel with eloquence and quite a bit of good comedy. Cheers! 🤗

@danieldosso2455 Ай бұрын

You know what other society had people "fail upwards" The Empire in Star Wars. Sure you get Palpatine and Vader on top, but once those two fell, the entirety of their society collapses and the New Republic was born.

@danieldosso2455 Ай бұрын

TL;DR: Reward success

@X_G8keeper Ай бұрын

I'm a huge fan Disparu

@bigd5773 Ай бұрын

Lol, I like how KZfaq wants to translate your comment into English!

@ThePhoenixScribe 29 күн бұрын

Same.

@andreashoyer4662 29 күн бұрын

I enjoy his videos, very entertaining, although if you've seen one you've seen them all

@GoblinKnightLeo Ай бұрын

I never thought Disparu was dumb, but I never expected this level of insightful analysis from him. It feels more like I'm listening to Little Platoon. You can really feel how much this bothers him, in spite of how measured his voice is.

@GH-ub7qz Ай бұрын

little platoon has low ethics, but he knows art...this guy knows ethics

@DeadlyPlatypus Ай бұрын

@@GH-ub7qzI think you're mistaking an extremely dry delivery of sarcasm with honest degeneracy.

@lingricen8077 29 күн бұрын

little platoon is a typical untalented spoilt zoomer. How the hell can you compare a superior millennial to him? fool, easiest DISLIKE I have ever clicked on a comment

@RobbinGraham Ай бұрын

the weird "softening" of our trad-villains is bizarre- they are literally making the damsels in distress and reluctant heroes into bada$$ feminist warriors who could slay the dragon AND (yeah, 2024) get the girl, whilst the enemy is a silly goofball that has no idea of how to BE a bad guy. they have RUINED our villains and made our protagonists into impervious immortals that know everything all the time. there's no tension, no danger no character arc. but they think this is what fans want?????

@KhorneBrzrkr Ай бұрын

The stupid thing is... they kinda do. Someone once told me the reason we don't have movies with sad endings any more is because no one wants to lead a move sad. From there its a simple evolution. Why feel anything other than happiness the whole time. If there is a moment of doubt that's a moment you COULD be feeling good instead!

@AzureRoxe Ай бұрын

@@KhorneBrzrkr Meanwhile the ending to Rogue One is beloved BECAUSE it was dark and sad. The ending to Episode 5 of Star Wars is iconic BECAUSE it was sad. People don't want sad endings because most sad endings nowadays are pure garbage.

@RobbinGraham Ай бұрын

@@KhorneBrzrkr oh i agree! but all the while, some of the saddest movies have been the best box-office blockbusters! i grew up watching things like Silkwood, where there IS no happy ending and that film has stuck with me for DECADES as one of the best films ever made.

@KhorneBrzrkr Ай бұрын

@@AzureRoxe Well they equate the two. You can have a well done sad ending. There are plenty examples. I'm just saying that lowest common denominator doesn't like being sad.

@DeadlyPlatypus Ай бұрын

No. They don't think this is what fans want. Stop believing that they are acting in good-faith. They aren't. They're trying push their values in media. They believe that if they show the same lies over and over again, until every generation that knew different is dead, THEY can imprint their ideology on every subsequent generation. The Left's "new" strategy is to become EVERYONE'S literal, though not biological, parent.

@alecmoriarty Ай бұрын

Strong men create good times, good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, Hard times create strong men

@Likexner Ай бұрын

Weak men empower XYs XYs create hard times

@mikewoodman7700 Ай бұрын

It may have helped if they bloody read Tolkien's biography to understand why wrote the way he did, fair do's to Jackson the LOTR trilogy was perfect, when I saw the Fellowship for the first time it was if he had been in my head when I read the book for the first time.

@martindixon54 Ай бұрын

I wouldn't say the trilogy was perfect. What it was, however, is as close as you could realistically get when transferring such an epic saga to a completely different storytelling medium.

@carolyns99 Ай бұрын

How can you possible have read the books and say the movies were perfect???

@mikewoodman7700 29 күн бұрын

@@carolyns99 they were exactly as I visioned it while reading the book ie perfect , for me that is

@jamesmandahl444 29 күн бұрын

The story of Helm Hammerhand is very sad. Took place during a time of dearth when a majority of the people of Rohan die from disease and starvation and war where they are beset by many enemies and Gondor is too weak and troubled to come to their aid. Helm eventually dies but his ghost haunts the lands supposedly crushing the enemies of Rohan with his spectral hands.

@GloriousRAT Ай бұрын

J R R Tolkien, C S Lewis, Gary Gygax, and myself are all military veterans. We all understand the military mind set (honor duty loyalty). We all love(d) fantasy as a diversion from reality. Four men of rare creative gifts, but none off check off any DEI boxes. Payne & McKay are the exact opposite, no "real world" life experiences (started writing together in High School), and only minimal creative talents.

@cola98765 29 күн бұрын

Gene Roddenberry was flying bombers during WW2... also kinda makes sense. I'm starting to see a pattern, it takes a veteran to tell a story about a armed conflict and the horrors of it, especially in fantasy context. It seems obvious when said like this, but audience still craves wars on screen while writers have not engaged with it at all, and Hollywood does not see it like that.

@TRAZ4004 Ай бұрын

Captain Kirk defeated Sauron.

@matthewhoey4386 Ай бұрын

that wasn't Sauron that was Godzilla.

@PALACIO254 Ай бұрын

With the mythic sword the lightbringer

@jamesmetcalf5597 Ай бұрын

Sauron teamed up with Voldemort to blow up one of the many death stars.

@vespenegas261 29 күн бұрын

@@jamesmetcalf5597 That's my favorite part of A Space Odyssey

@rhys5958 29 күн бұрын

I’d never thought about Sam’s lines being representative of Tolkien’s lived experience during war time until now. Thank you for opening my eyes to that.

@rrc3 Ай бұрын

As a veteran, Samwise's heroism hits on a totally different level. Sam is the brother in arms who keeps the whole squad going through his belief in you. Star Wars is interesting because Lucas' personal experience with war was minimal, but everyone around him had deep personal experience. But Lucas *tried* to serve. He wanted to. He was just disqualified because of his street racing youth and diabetes. So he had a ton of respect for anyone with experience bringing him something. This is, in my mind, best shown in Yoda's pontification on war. "War not make one great." It's an incomplete thought to anyone who's been to war. It concludes: "War reveals one's greatness." Whoever you are, in war, you become magnified tenfold. Our greatest are always humble, efficient men (and women) who want to assist their brothers and sisters as best they can. But it is also something a teacher of Yoda's skill wouldn't tell a student. A student doesn't have the experience to understand the difference. They don't need that part of the information yet. If someone can hear the Lament for Boromir and not cry, they fundamentally do not understand Tolkien's work and should not be involved in any Tolkien project.

@linus116 Ай бұрын

This is one of your best videos, I’m gonna watch it 3 more times.

@pillznarRy Ай бұрын

BEAUTIFULLY put bro. EVERY WORD OF THIS.

@BelMarduksBizarreBazaar Ай бұрын

This is why I read Wheel of Time yearly until i had memorized it. The good Sir was well versed, he had seen trauma and knew the power of hope. The series is loaded with philosophy because like Tolkien he had lived and had context to compare Good and Evil with. They had the ability to teach because they understood.

@johndunn1625 Ай бұрын

I will maintain until the day I die that Rand on Dragonmount is the most pivotal and well written segment in the series and is probably one of the greatest moments in fantasy in general.

@BelMarduksBizarreBazaar Ай бұрын

@@johndunn1625 it is where i put the book back on the shelf and have left it since.

@ronaldallen1252 Ай бұрын

The ruination of that series by Amazon is an absolute disaster. I knew they’d get tricked into seeing female aes sedai as the most important thing in the fantasy world. I hate feminism.

@iminvalhallabitches Ай бұрын

Jordan sucked. Stop doing drugs.

@ChaoticYak1 Ай бұрын

I'm reading the series for the first time and (while this might be considered blasphemy), I actually find that I'm enjoying it more than Lord of the Rings.

@dan1984842 29 күн бұрын

You’re doing such good work with these Disparu. The clips you provide are so important - it’s easy to have a general feeling that things are wrong, but you forget where you’ve seen it. When you keep showing these people saying terrible things, it’s so helpful. You’re a great voice for analysing the big picture - very few people can, and very few are brave enough to. Thank you so much and you’re doing something so important! Do you have a patreon Disparu? I couldn’t give much, but I could give something, and maybe others could too to help support you

@BrentMalice Ай бұрын

thank you for trying to differentiate between California and America. im in West (by god) Virginia, and we love everybody. except California. thats a different coutnry

@MSgt5J071 Ай бұрын

Yup, Cali-f**ked up-fornia, the cereal state (full of fruits, nuts and flakes).

@andrewp8284 29 күн бұрын

Californian here-it’s primarily Hollywood and LA/SF that’s the different country lol. A lot of us here in the rest of the state (certainly outside the coast) look at them the same way you look at all of us.

@joesmith4510 Ай бұрын

Thankyou for being you, and saying what you do.

@ArveKvaly Ай бұрын

Awesome diatribe this time! You nail the problem! Keep up the good work and thank you for your dedication!!

@wallyman292 29 күн бұрын

Extremely well said and insightful Sir! I think you've hit the nail right on the head here.

@tquenched3210 Ай бұрын

wait... a hollywood writer that hasn't seen starwars?.. how?

@StarStuff. Ай бұрын

The same way an actor stating Anakin destroyed the Death Star and no one corrects him...?

@Soulfire252 Ай бұрын

Great video as always. Congratulations on becoming a regular on Friday night tights. It'll be great to see you on there as well. You will certainly do the show. Proud! Keep rocking then

@TankUni Ай бұрын

Something of a corollary, is how British drama portrayed WW2 on TV and movies in the 50's, 60's & 70's. Although constrained by FX technology and the limits of what could be shown, the shows often seemed more real in terms of how characters reacted to each other. I put that down to many of the actors, directors and writers having been alive during the war years, often serving. The old guard's gone now, and so we have increasingly cartoonish takes by writers who's frame of reference is typically video games and movies they've seen.

@Bhenderson0001 Ай бұрын

Disparu may be a bit verbose, but I find again and again that he makes sense and summarises what Is important. We need people like this to help those of us that maybe cannot pull our thoughts together so well. He seems to have an instinctual feel for what is wrong and can put it in words, and you just know he is saying what has been at the back of your head, but he manages to put it clearly.

@GopherInTN Ай бұрын

Well stated Disparu. You always hit the right points. Thats why you are a perfect replacement on FNT for AZ. Look forward to seeing your take in the future

@jonnybarlow3248 Ай бұрын

Your video essays on the writing woes of hollyweird always get it just right.

@RJ420NL Ай бұрын

Additionally, no child left behind led to teaching to the test. Education become memorization.

@tankmaker9807 Ай бұрын

And kids that do not do well testing are left behind, while those that parrot the nonsense are rewarded for knowing nothing of substance.

@David-id6jw Ай бұрын

It's not even teaching to the test. It's that you can't be left behind, so the test doesn't even matter. Your effort (if any) doesn't matter. You could do virtually nothing and still be moved from grade to grade. Who needs memorization?

@elusivemayfly7534 Ай бұрын

I was just thinking about this today! I was watching a clip of a young man who said magical schools in stories suggest that learning is actually fun, and public school just sucks. And I felt sad because it WAS fun when I was a kid. I am in my early 40s, and I think policy changes and initiatives like No Child Left Behind drastically changed things. They took at least some of the magic out of learning.

Ай бұрын

@@tankmaker9807 Hell I failed a science test since apparently I didn't just consume and puke up info in a book, that was by the time I was in Highschool about 10 years out of date. I failed because I used information from CURRENT sources and directly from the biggest astrophysicists and space guys and gals. So yeah up to date info was bad, spewing old outdated crap form book = good.

Ай бұрын

@@David-id6jw And that is why you have kids in 10th grade unable to read basic books, or spell, or do math.

@TheCincinnatiDad Ай бұрын

I truly appreciate how articulate you are in your observations and criticisms, and how well you edit to get them seamless over multiple takes! Well done, looking forward to your new FNT role!

@darkforestgreen 28 күн бұрын

Ditto! FNT, finally! A great addition for everyone.^^

@MustertheBrohirrim Ай бұрын

It's Anakin' killing the death star while researching spiders in the Amazon time.

@Dungeonseeker1uk Ай бұрын

Fun fact: The opposite of a meritocracy is called a kakistocracy. I'm not sure if it was named after shit or if the nickname for shit came from it but its pretty funny. A shitistocracy if you will 🤣🤣

@skibidi.G Ай бұрын

Kakisto + cracy = worst + rule

@Dungeonseeker1uk 29 күн бұрын

@@skibidi.G TIL. So I'm guessing the etymology of kak is from kakisto then?

@skibidi.G 29 күн бұрын

@@Dungeonseeker1uk probably lol

@patriciafenwick5846 Ай бұрын

I was looking forward to this, not so sure now. Btw, congrats on 250k.

@joba4848 29 күн бұрын

Your videos are rapidly becoming the best, most intelligently considered and thoughtful commentary pieces on modern culture on KZfaq. Excellent stuff.