The Ultimate $5,000 Apple Pro Display XDR Review!

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Apple's Pro Display costs $4,999 and doesn't include a stand but they herald it as a bargain. But is it? Snazzy Labs' host Quinn Nelson seeks professional advice in this Pro Display XDR Review.
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Apple announced the #6K #ProDisplayXDR alongside the new cheese-grater Mac Pro at WWDC 2019 in San Jose, California. After six months of waiting, it finally hit the market in December of 2019. Rather than rush and put a messy review up as soon as we could, we have spent the last 40 days with it putting it through its paces and seeing if it can really compete against the Sony, Eizo, vs Flanders Scientific monitors of the world. We break down the 6K resolution, connectivity issues, GPU limitations, the $1,000 monitor stand's strengths and weaknesses, the display panel's viewing angles, color accuracy, luminance, light rolloff, vignetting issues, HDR capabilities and alleged 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio. This review is a long one that's jam packed with content so sit back and enjoy!

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@TDPEquinox 4 жыл бұрын

When the thumbnail says 13:37 but the video is 13:36.. I see what you TRIED to do there, but KZfaq had other plans.

@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын

I FEEL MEGA JIPPED

@butterbertha9439 4 жыл бұрын

its youtube, it does it to every video

@Crlarl 4 жыл бұрын

It's 13:37 for me.

@AnesuC 4 жыл бұрын

On mobile it's 13:37

@artixskillz7636 4 жыл бұрын

What’s the significance of 1337?

@BKdefr 4 жыл бұрын

"Just an IPS with local dimming and all the problems that come with it." HDTVTest

@galihprabasidi8498 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, that is true, but do you actually watch this video? Because he also mentioned the problem with this monitor near the end.

@Boswd 4 жыл бұрын

@@galihprabasidi8498 yeah in a wish washy way though as like he doesn't really want to upset Apple or something

@BKdefr 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I watched it, and there is a "pro" (freelancer) who already bought some of them trying to rationalise to us why you would need those. Then hes repeating over and over this would be a choice for mid size studios. But for this budget you got better options, dont you?

@jhanninnen 4 жыл бұрын

12"

@BKdefr 4 жыл бұрын

@@jhanninnen thats a huge...dvd player!

@Behrdie 4 жыл бұрын

I love the balance between hard figures/stats and the “this is basically what that means.” Solid review as always.

@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@lucasrem 4 жыл бұрын

Brendan Murphy not for noobs, creative people only!

@gdrriley420 4 жыл бұрын

I wish they made an updated version of the old Thunderbolt Display/ LED cinema display using a 4k or 5k imac screen.

@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын

GDR Riley I was hoping for that too. :(

@datachu 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I loved those displays, I don't even own a Mac anymore but I still use one at work with an adapter, the picture is excellent. And they seem to work without a driver now in Windows, not sure what happened they just kinda... Suddenly did after an update (back in 2018 I think), now I can adjust the brightness/etc without Bootcamp installed.

@gdrriley420 4 жыл бұрын

@@datachu I used them daily at school for 3 years. I'm thinking about grabbing a used one for my video editor/GF. For about 200$ used they look to be a good deal

@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын

@@datachu This is good to know. Thank you for sharing this. (:

@huggyuk 4 жыл бұрын

I’m not so sure..... There’ll be way too many nit pickers

@zollotech 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Quinn. It answered all my questions and some I didn’t know I had.

@Prettytony0627 4 жыл бұрын

zollotech hey man. Love your videos. You should check out HDTV test video review of this monitor. The “pro” display still has all of the issues that come with IPS displays.

@curtisjudd 4 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to say that your videos sound really great. Thanks for caring about sound!

@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын

That new lav finally got here! Gonna start using it this week. :)

@mikaelhuostila4005 4 жыл бұрын

It's still mind-boggling to think that Snazzy doesn't have a million subs yet 🤯

@geogmz8277 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for pointing that out. I noticed I wasn't subscribed (some how) but I fixed it.

@delavago5379 4 жыл бұрын

Oh crap I didn't notice I wasn't subscribed. Fixed

@moritzh6876 4 жыл бұрын

Simply the best video about the XDR, period. Just like with the Mac Pro videos, you manage to combine the facts everyone else is repeating in their videos with good and relatable insights. Top notch!

@KcinTelliam4595 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! It’s nice seeing someone post something about this display and talk to an actual colorist and not just talk about how this is good for consumer level stuff.

@Dreyzie 4 жыл бұрын

snazzy if i didnt tell you man, you are one of my favorite

@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын

Drey Jay 🤗

@testthisfordecficiencies 4 жыл бұрын

The LG panel alone costs 1500 USD for these.

@GO2CUT 3 жыл бұрын

I'd buy that, without the apple logo!

@mkedrones 4 жыл бұрын

With the indy-filmmaker market becoming so big, there is a shift away from those older brands that Denver mentions. I would say the closest feeling competitor to the Apple XDR would be some of the new Neon line of displays from Atomos. It is priced way less than those (of similar size), but the Neon line isn’t built specifically for Macs with a the ports and what not that the XDR has.

@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын

MKE Drones Good point and thank you.

@gdrriley420 4 жыл бұрын

asus has got the new pro art line that may have some close models.

@Tigerex966 4 жыл бұрын

And....ASUS which has also been killing it with mini LED 32" HDR monitors under $5000, with stand and matte finish at 4K.

@1young-geezer 4 жыл бұрын

This is certainly all beyond my practice and means. But many thanks for informing me and putting it in perspective. All very well said!

@samuelsalt3890 4 жыл бұрын

This channel has good reviews, he's an Apple Fanboy, but he's honest Keep up the good work!

@bluephreakr 4 жыл бұрын

He's less of an Apple fangirl than he use to be. I mean, some weeks back He talked about _Linux_ and discusses hackintoshes because even _he_ knows for most people who want to use Apple's OS, the hardware investment is a big pill to swallow that many, unsurprisingly can't.

@radiantav 4 жыл бұрын

This is fantastically informative video. Thanks, I learned a lot.

@LukeLiterati 4 жыл бұрын

at 2 minutes the vertical slide down I was expecting a bottom piece like the all-in-ones.

@crax4dan 4 жыл бұрын

Whats the name of that screen saver he has playing in the background? I really like it, btw I'm using windows 10 :D

@DanielLopez-up6os 4 жыл бұрын

Could this be compared to something like ASUS's Pro Art monitor line? Also i saw someone extract the Monitor Utility from the bootcamp driver installer that you can get on the Apple Website.

@WitheredSpirit 4 жыл бұрын

You probably can install the Bootcamp utility to non Apple hardware. I personally have it installed on my custom desktop computer, so that the old Apple keyboard I use with it can utilize the volume keys and have the correct keyboard layout. You can't trigger the installer by opening the normal file, but if you launch it as administrator using CMD (or one of the install scripts in the sub folders that contain all the drivers, can't remember how the process goes) the install script will just install Bootcamp utility without checking the hardware configuration.

@GertKombate 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this AMAZINGLY HONEST review! It helps a lot. Keep it up.

@emanuellopes6166 4 жыл бұрын

Watching this video from my 12 years old philips 170s 5:4, it has a yellow line from top to bottom.

@ep8022 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, i do have the amazon basics monitor arm… would you trust it to hold such an expensive display or would you get the Ergotron monitor arm ? Thank you

@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын

It’s probably fine but Ergotron and Simplyhuman are awesome.

@ep8022 4 жыл бұрын

Snazzy Labs thanks I think I’ll get the ergotron seems more sturdy than amazon ... also there are so many delays on this monitor, Ordered mine December 26 and still no show. I’m pretty sure it’s got to do with higher than anticipated demand and China virus. When did you order yours ? Or did find it in store ? Canada has nothing here !!! Sucks

@LnnyOsoTo 4 жыл бұрын

I find your video about the Stand so amazing that the first few seconds of this video made me go watch it again.

@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын

Facelessly Personal 😂

@spector175 4 жыл бұрын

Can we edit prores raw in final cut Pro in ryzen hackintosh system ? Is there any performance difference for not having t2 chips and using Intel's quick sync?

@randomrazr 4 жыл бұрын

is the imac pro still worth buying

@MrGarryRollo 4 жыл бұрын

Finally! Someone did a great video on "professional colour editor using this monitor" :D

@LazyPCRehab 4 жыл бұрын

1:28 Snazzy sign on back wall looks like it says Spazzy, lol.

@hobbes1231 3 жыл бұрын

Hi I've been considering a new monitor and checking a lot of vids. do you think the ASUS Proart 32UCX deserves a like? the mini LED technology and 1000+ local dimming zone with great coverage of rec2020 seems like an awesome spec for the price which I think will battle this Pro Display XDR

@disco4178 4 жыл бұрын

This looks like a nice general purpose display, but isn't scaling not desirable when coloring (IE: you want native resolution of whatever the final output is)? Also, notice that when he mentions the FALD issues with star fields, we didn't see the monitor displaying star fields...

@kavan1773 4 жыл бұрын

Yo snazzy, what are your thoughts on the state of the iPad and iPadOS? Assuming you even use an iPad

@lux-pro 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent review, Quinn! Thanks!

@hunkharry5011 Жыл бұрын

can I use 3 pro display xdr with a laptop 4090 having 3 thunderbolt4 ports ? or do i need to go for a pc biult an satisfy myself with three 5k2k displays ? I am into trading / no gaming . need a clean setup with good resolutions like 6k on all 3 displays also connect 85inch tv with hdmi2.1

@mptrh336 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Quin! What’s the best way to suggest a video topic?

@CalvinsWorldNews 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe a dumb question but what is the advantage of high end "monitor" as compared to plugging in a high-end TV? I run my MacPro into a 40" Bang&Olufsen tv which was $5k new though I bought it on eBay for $1000. Insanely high end vision and sound, plus once I'm done with work I can change from AV to TV and watch stuff on it.

@SilatGayongTiger 4 жыл бұрын

Best reviewer ever. Always looking forward to your opinion. No matter how late it is compared to other you tubers

@AA-nj2ni 3 жыл бұрын

which monitor arms are being used? They look like humanscales but which models are they? great vid

@kejisworld9252 4 жыл бұрын

I love how I watch these crazy tech videos knowing damn well I have $30 in my accountv

@David_Phantom 4 жыл бұрын

This might be a stupid question but does the ProDisplay work with hackinoshes?

@mateofiz 4 жыл бұрын

love the videos so much!!!!

@AtaSeddighMohammadi 4 жыл бұрын

Can you compare XDR to Asus PA32UC? It has double the Local dimming zones so it should have less blooming, right?

@AtaSeddighMohammadi 4 жыл бұрын

PA32UCG is also 120hz with 1600 nits of peak brightness and pre HDR-1400 certified.

@random13627 4 жыл бұрын

Cool vid man, very informational! also damn i'm early :)

@themiguelpt91 4 жыл бұрын

Were those clips taken in Morocco? Cool!

@saltor 4 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering what computer the Big hat guy was using with the displays. I noticed there was a thunderbolt adapter or am I mistaken?

@geek-geek 4 жыл бұрын

What screensaver are you using?

@aldenlimhengyi 4 жыл бұрын

Does it work with your Ryzen hackintosh?

@UnExtinctive 4 жыл бұрын

Please could you do a tear down of this display? I haven't found one anywhere :(

@runningpancakes 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent tech review, you the man bro, grats!!! \m/

@acupunk7379 4 жыл бұрын

Did this work with the hackintosh you built?

@robertoaguiluz7350 4 жыл бұрын

5:44 correct me if im wrong, but those arms are the Humanscale M10 right??

@vasiovasio 4 жыл бұрын

God bless you, man!!! I spend lat 10 minutes to looking for it!

@az360tour9 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review video. Thanks for sharing. Watching from San Francisco.

@fedemtz6 4 жыл бұрын

What's the adapter connected to the Pro Display XDR for? You can see it at 4:01

@miur85 4 жыл бұрын

Snazzy, thank you for your work. Your sarcasm and irony joking style is funny but also very imformative.

@TotallyGamerJet 4 жыл бұрын

Does it work on a hackintosh?

@MehranJabbari 4 жыл бұрын

8:53, what is this box called from BMD? Is it still available to purchase?

@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын

It’s not quite out. www.cinema5d.com/blackmagic-design-announces-teranex-mini-sdi-to-displayport-8k-hdr/

@MehranJabbari 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much buddy. Love your channel, sense of humour and your work. Keep it classy snazzy!

@3d-speakers945 4 жыл бұрын

Please review all the new Schiit that has come out. Would love see a review of that.

@epprealty 3 жыл бұрын

Extremely well composed review. Kudos!

@reddcube 4 жыл бұрын

Asus is releasing a new ProArt monitor soon to compete with the Apple’s Pro XDR. Will we get a video on the PA32UCG?

@allansh828 4 жыл бұрын

4K is too low res

@Niels_f2704 4 жыл бұрын

Allan Sh No one would really see any difference. Meanwhile the Asus has double the local dimming as the Pro display and a refreshrate of 120 Hz with the same 1600 nits of peak brightness. It’s gonna be cheaper.

@allansh828 4 жыл бұрын

Nielsf2704 32 inch should have 8K. 6K is barely acceptable. 4K is way too low.

@Niels_f2704 4 жыл бұрын

How close are you even sitting to your monitor? On a laptop I already don’t see any difference between 1080p and 4k. Most nowadays content is still at 4K. If you want 8K you should get the Dell Ultrasharp 8K monitor.

@clickbaitpro 4 жыл бұрын

@@allansh828 Nah 6k and 8k are too low resolution, I need atleast 12k

@jskuzma 4 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate Quinn's take on the Mac Pro and XDR display as a fan but still realistic.

@reuben2311 4 жыл бұрын

Really cool video, learnt a lot. Can the hack pro drive the Pro Display XDR?

@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын

Not without a GC Titan Ridge card. Haven’t tried it though.

@TheAdello 4 жыл бұрын

Reuben Cherian you barley learned anything

@Stanlyok 4 жыл бұрын

@ 4:25 Apple Pro Display XDR also seems to work with both sizes of latest iMac and 15-inch MacBook Pro (=

@ReallyGhey 4 жыл бұрын

Great review man. Thumbs up

@Rhythmattica 4 жыл бұрын

nice review...... This was well balanced and informative .

@T.J 4 жыл бұрын

May I recommend a CFS Flo arm as an alternative VESA stand. It’s very good.

@MarcosElMalo2 4 жыл бұрын

I’m not saying that I want to buy this monitor and the Apple stand, but if I did, I’d want $700 wheels on that stand. ,Amy people say Apple is too expensive, I say it’s not expensive enough. ;-)

@Simon-ro8nh 4 жыл бұрын

Another great review!

@omarcorrea 4 жыл бұрын

You are a true tech nerd sir. I didn't understand half of the techno stat jargon you mentioned, but I enjoyed this video none the less. Great job Q

@stevegeorge7773 4 жыл бұрын

I’d be keen to see what other monitors peeps would/should consider.

@blairgorman6395 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, THANK YOU for revealing the lack of true horizontal lock on the Apple stands.. which becomes an issue with multi-display setups that look "wonky" without this. Frankly, I'm astonished... I was on the verge of "upgrading" my stands, but looks like it'd be quite a downgrade from my existing Vesa arms. I'll stick with my Monitors in Motion Mantis 30 stands, which are the best I have found... twice as good, at half the price!

@awesomeferret 4 жыл бұрын

It's still slightly smaller than the 30 inch 16:10 Apple Cinema Display that I still use. Still a beautiful monitor all these years later. I got it for free, but in 2005 it must have been amazing, 1440p IPS in 2005. And it works perfectly with Windows!

@emrazum 4 жыл бұрын

please let us know what jacket you're wearing and in general start posting your outfits, i really like your style

@KenDel905 4 жыл бұрын

1:54 The main subject and whole video is about the displays but damn that cathode clock is dope af

@Coldgecko 4 жыл бұрын

Ok, so I am a photographer who prints. I am seriously thinking of upgrading to an XDR vs iMac 2019 5K vs Benq SW321C. Which do you think is best -- taking money out of the equation.. Then if money is in the equation, is the winner that much better than the second place -- assuming I want very good color accuracy.

@SomeTechGuy666 4 жыл бұрын

You do the best reviews. Kudos.

@tipoomaster 4 жыл бұрын

If they were going to go back to an integer scale on the Macbooks, the 16" seems like it would have been the chance to do so, but alas, it didn't. I always notice the slight non integer scaling blur too.

@utubekullanicisi Жыл бұрын

Hurray now we have it! Though not on the new M2 MacBook Air...

@semion.tsysaruk 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for inviting Denver over! I learned color grading from his videos and courses and he is a true pro I’m his niche. Great video as always! Do you use a promoter?

@shaun0531 4 жыл бұрын

I am a huge fan keep up the great work

@SpidermanandJeny 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the new Thunderbolt or DisplayPort standards will be built into upcoming Pro monitors and Mac's. They would have the hardware to handle such things and thus the speed and data throughput would be applicable and thus maybe only 1 port would be needed for 6k.

@jennifergala 4 жыл бұрын

It should have been an 8K 12 bit panel and compatible with Dolby Vision at least.

@eduardoig17 3 жыл бұрын

I have seen a lot of monitors that have uneven tilt as well. IDK why they make it like that but that seems to be a standard thing

@suicideasteroid 4 жыл бұрын

"Several inches" forward? How many is several, 1 1/2?

@allgamestotal6773 4 жыл бұрын

what screensaver is that at 6:18?

@muminovicamir 4 жыл бұрын

great review

@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын

This was the best slap, kick, and punch, you’ve taken at Apple Quinn. And it made for a great video because you picked them up after the beating. In a Snazzy kind of way. ;) Great video and thank you for doing this with Denver Riddle. That guy is cool.

@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын

@@snazzy You're welcome.

@albertnicolau4139 4 жыл бұрын

what about a vs. with the Asus pa32ucx ??

@timdeboer7400 4 жыл бұрын

When the length of the video is just right 👌

@razor-4eg 4 жыл бұрын

You can install whatever you want from Apple BootCamp Driver to a Windows PC. On my PC i install Apple BootCamp Panel and mouse and keyboard driver, cuz i use KVM swith beetwen my iMac and PC. So You can install Display drivers and use it like on a BootCamp Windows on a regular PC

@bgimusic 4 жыл бұрын

great information to know!

@PMA 4 жыл бұрын

Ahah!! Thank you Snazzy for your always honest review! I like your channel a lot!

@TheSirPangolin 4 жыл бұрын

What 3D printer do you use?

@Crlarl 4 жыл бұрын

It looks like a Prusa i3 mkii or mkiii.

@casualintrovert207 4 жыл бұрын

They fixed the blooming issue with an update actually, you might want to check that out.

@NaitorStudios 4 жыл бұрын

Does it work with Hackintosh?

@meitsingh7633 4 жыл бұрын

nice video brother... very informational

@Nanorisk 4 жыл бұрын

Good review!

@jesus.h.crepes485 4 жыл бұрын

i still have the original 30" Cinema Display and it works freakin fantastic, i'm using it now. 14 years old and still working. Original cost was $2600. So maybe $5000 and hopefully 14 years of life will still be a good investment ( if it is built as well ).

@zacharyzimmerman1789 4 жыл бұрын

Hey snazzy labs I'm just next to SLC it would be a crazy dream to come see the lab and meet you guys! Love the vids guys! Keep it up!

@logusgraphics 4 жыл бұрын

You're really stepping up your game, nice video.

@karamhasan2159 4 жыл бұрын

What’s that keyboard in the background 👀

@josephbraide 4 жыл бұрын

A very well done review.

@clickbaitpro 4 жыл бұрын

This dude is very authentic and I like that you are not praising apple like other KZfaqrs

@frederikwulff411 4 жыл бұрын

Anyone; What is the name of that wide youtube sub counter Quinn has above the display...? Seen it tons of places, so now I want one... guess advertisement works 🤨

@JR-mk6ow 4 жыл бұрын

Why are you not at 1M sub yet? The quality of these video is top notch. Also you actually seem to understand what your are talking about (unlikely most techtubers)

@snazzy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Hoping to get there by the end of 2020!