The Ultimate ALNICO Pickup Test!! - A2, A3, A4, A5, and A8!

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Darrell Braun Guitar

Darrell Braun Guitar

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Have you ever wondered what kind of differences the magnets in your pickups make? Wonder no more! Today I compare ALNICO II, III, IV, V, VIII and a Ceramic-VIII too!
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@thewomanwithnohead
@thewomanwithnohead 5 жыл бұрын
That's truly THE comparison video I dreamed about all my guitarist life !
@trashpanda1350
@trashpanda1350 5 жыл бұрын
I have alinco V pickups on my squier SSS configuration like the one in my PF you see
@joeysgear1419
@joeysgear1419 5 жыл бұрын
You should REALLY do a comparison video between alnico 2, 3 and 5 but where it matters: STRATS ;) Most strat pups are alnico 5, but the recently started doing some with alnico and they are amazing. The first strats were also alnico 3. I have boutique hand wound strat pups which are alnico 2 and they just have such a natural sound...more than alnico 5 and with more overtones. Teles also started with 3, in 52...then 5 took over there as well.
@Pim3211
@Pim3211 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! That was really interesting 😃
@PeteKaster
@PeteKaster 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this in the bridge position too!
@billhillard
@billhillard 4 жыл бұрын
Well, we all want you to get ahead.
@nicovo9237
@nicovo9237 4 жыл бұрын
Clean: Alnico 2 - 2:58 Alnico 3 - 3:07 Alnico 4 - 3:15 Alnico 5 - 3:24 Alnico 8 - 3:31 Ceramic 8 - 3:39 Medium gain: Alnico 2 - 5:26 Alnico 3 - 5:38 Alnico 4 - 5:50 Alnico 5 - 6:01 Alnico 8 - 6:12 Ceramic 8 - 6:24 High gain: Alnico 2 - 7:50 Alnico 3 - 8:06 Alnico 4 - 8:22 Alnico 5 - 8:39 Alnico 8 - 8:56 Ceramic 8 - 9:13
@victorious2178
@victorious2178 4 жыл бұрын
you deserve a beer!
@FuckinRiven
@FuckinRiven 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't call it high gain
@jmsplm362
@jmsplm362 4 жыл бұрын
Geez thanks man
@mikepj1025
@mikepj1025 3 жыл бұрын
You da man. Thank you.
@lone-wolf-1
@lone-wolf-1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@donald-parker
@donald-parker 5 жыл бұрын
I like the 2's. You can do tons of things to add grit, gain, and distortion. But not so much to clean up a dirty pickup.
@yonikup2865
@yonikup2865 5 жыл бұрын
That's the pickups slash uses and I have them on my Les Paul and I can totally back that statement. always easier to add dirt than remove it in my opinion
@YesuAiNimen
@YesuAiNimen 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@drewbarries
@drewbarries 5 жыл бұрын
Seymour Duncan Custom 4C Antiquities are Alnico IIs
@bluenosemassmedia2996
@bluenosemassmedia2996 5 жыл бұрын
Donald Parker I’m with you. Extra hot winds suffer tonally. I love the Duncan 5 twos in a Tele
@highanglelarry
@highanglelarry 5 жыл бұрын
I run a 2 in the neck and a 5 in the bridge on my main dc lp. Wish he would have ran the bridge instead.
@RobertBakerGuitar
@RobertBakerGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Busted out my monitoring headphones. Huge difference once you have headphones on. 3's are my fav
@Nghilifa
@Nghilifa 5 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@MrZachalewel
@MrZachalewel 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to add &fmt=18 to the URL for better audio (sometimes)
@kimhansen6384
@kimhansen6384 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrZachalewel That is interesting, but I don´t know what you mean?? What is &fmt?
@MrZachalewel
@MrZachalewel 5 жыл бұрын
@@kimhansen6384it is a url parameter for uncompressed audio. You paste it on the end of the URL, hit enter.
@PrizmSeeR
@PrizmSeeR 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. It had a great sound. Wonder if he just tuned them better or they just are great. I love a clean but driven tone. When you add lots of distortion it still sounds great.
@Ranger11413
@Ranger11413 5 жыл бұрын
Personally I feel that Alnico 5 gives you the best of all worlds across the board. Most versatile tone capability for all genres.
@priyonjoni
@priyonjoni 5 жыл бұрын
I’m going to name my first son Al Nico
@ansol68
@ansol68 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm going to have my son name my grandson, Alnico II
@Supperconductor
@Supperconductor 5 жыл бұрын
Your child will rebel and call himself Ceramic.
@shenjingbing2293
@shenjingbing2293 5 жыл бұрын
@@ansol68 lmao
@obicross
@obicross 5 жыл бұрын
@@Supperconductor sir amic 😁
@Supperconductor
@Supperconductor 5 жыл бұрын
@SQUIRE LOVA LOL!
@BrunoPeixotoVieira
@BrunoPeixotoVieira 5 жыл бұрын
Please do this comparison in the bridge pickup position
@johnshannon6492
@johnshannon6492 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Thats pretty much where I live!
@svajesz
@svajesz 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, please! 🤘🏻
@torbenlysholm1
@torbenlysholm1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this comparison was nice ... but what a blunder that is. Almost everyone must now sit and "translate" this info and impression to what it could do for their bridge pickup. So, I'm off to find another comparison video with more relevans for me.
@electrofuzz7396
@electrofuzz7396 4 жыл бұрын
ALNICO IV for me, clear note separation and warm at the same time.
@shaggaroony
@shaggaroony 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one, I thought exactly the same thing. They sounded really good.
@zanshelby03
@zanshelby03 2 ай бұрын
And you get drive and fullness without the harsh fuzzy overdrive tone
@nathanbrewer6032
@nathanbrewer6032 Ай бұрын
Came Standard in G&L's ALNICO "S" (for Session) ASAT, and why I bought it.
@kaeleppcohen3210
@kaeleppcohen3210 5 жыл бұрын
Here are timestamps for each individual magnet test. Enjoy! CLEAN A2: 2:59 A3: 3:07 A4: 3:15 A5: 3:23 A8: 3:31 C8: 3:38 BLUES A2: 5:26 A3: 5:38 A4: 5:49 A5: 6:01 A8: 6:12 C8: 6:24 ROCK A2: 7:50 A3: 8:06 A4: 8:22 A5: 8:39 A8: 8:56 C8: 9:13 I personally don't hear a difference other than output volume.
@mestresplinter2467
@mestresplinter2467 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Well, I'm hearing a lot of "sand" in the higher grade ones. Try to swap from 2 to 8 and back. If you listen in the order, maybe the gradient doesn't sound that different.
@MartinBuzon
@MartinBuzon 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing thanks for the TimeStamps, for me A2 and C8 are the cleanest and brightest. Pay attention to multiple strings sounding together you can clearly hear the difference. 5 and 8 sound wider than the rest but still to dirty, frequencies mix up too much.
@ranchmanager9126
@ranchmanager9126 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised, especially on the blues bit how warm and still chimey the Ceramic was. I like the saturated breakup of the Ceramic. Probably very dynamic using the volume control.
@johnhmaloney
@johnhmaloney 5 жыл бұрын
AlNiCo-III was my favorite in all three tests. It just sounds warmer than the others to me.
@pops1981
@pops1981 5 жыл бұрын
this has to be one of the best comparison video's ever. Thanks Darrell for all the effort you put in your work. I'm leaning towards #2
@droogii1142
@droogii1142 5 жыл бұрын
Through my headphones the Alnico II just had a clarity I liked. Great video.
@IntoTheForest
@IntoTheForest 5 жыл бұрын
Personally alnico 4 was my favorite. They all sound great, just different sounds for different contexts. This was a great comparison for anyone looking into new pickups/ pickup magnets.
@jimaubrey498
@jimaubrey498 5 жыл бұрын
Like 4 best also
@stroopwafel6141
@stroopwafel6141 5 жыл бұрын
I have Bare Knuckles Mules AIV. Best PAF 59-copies I ever played. Very balanced, dynamic and crisp but not shrill in the topend. AIII is too soft in the bass for me. Too bad we don't hear the bridgepickups with distortion.
@anthonydavella8350
@anthonydavella8350 5 жыл бұрын
@@stroopwafel6141 I agree. That riff was too close to the nut for a high gain neck Pup IMO
@5150sux
@5150sux 4 жыл бұрын
Same here A4 passed each test in my eyes.
@deftonedigga
@deftonedigga 4 жыл бұрын
I think that dynamics need to be taken into consideration also. That's where Alnico IV can step up.
@dyamariv3628
@dyamariv3628 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video idea Darrell, thanks for that! You're a heck of a guitarist too brother!
@SomeplaceWonderful
@SomeplaceWonderful 5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen or heard a demo anything like this. It's genius. Well done.
@EXATTIC
@EXATTIC 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most informative gear videos I’ve come across. Definitely in the top 5. Way to go!
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@j11smith
@j11smith 5 жыл бұрын
this is great thanks for sharing your thoughts. I have been really too concerned with the possible difference and as I live in remote Canada I want to order the right parts the first time. Thanks again, i know its painstaking work to do a true comparison like this
@niclastname
@niclastname 5 жыл бұрын
I can say one thing for sure: Changing the magnet in the same pickup of the same guitar makes a _much_ bigger tone difference than _any_ tone difference anyone has ever shown from wood in an electric guitar!
@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306
@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306 3 жыл бұрын
Would make sense as a solid body electric relies so heavily on the electronics once it's plugged in. But tests have shown the wood can make a difference in tone and sustain. Does that justify spending thousands more? Only someone really picky and with money to burn would think so. Or someone who wants to justify why they had to have an old expensive guitar when a properly set up newer inexpensive one can sound great too.
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of disagree.
@whiskerandojoe
@whiskerandojoe 2 жыл бұрын
i hear notible difference in clarity of korina would guitars. I don't mean treble, but a lack of muddiness so you can distinctly hear all the tones singing instead of ringing.
@benink5690
@benink5690 2 жыл бұрын
Wood makes a noticeable difference e to anyone with a decent ear. Might wanna work on that ;)
@niclastname
@niclastname 2 жыл бұрын
@@benink5690 Should be really easy to prove by removing all variables and using waveforms then. I wonder why nobody ever does...
@kingnick6260
@kingnick6260 4 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a video comparison like this for YEARS. Thank you so much!
@jeffwyatt2256
@jeffwyatt2256 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible! I’ve always wanted a proper test between the different pickup magnet types, you nailed it here! The alnico III was perfection through your clean signal. Alnico II won out on both pushed tests to my ears. Awesome stuff, keep up the fantastic work! Pretty new here but, absolutely loving the channel!
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff!
@Wayneextremity
@Wayneextremity 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing Effort, Darrel. Thanks for feeding our Gear obsession
@jessharris244
@jessharris244 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best comparison video I've ever seen. This will really help me focus my pup choices in the future.
@AngelMartinez-qs3cf
@AngelMartinez-qs3cf 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison Darrell. Thank you for posting this. This is great insight as how the pickups behave. Great job.
@jeffreyeagen4896
@jeffreyeagen4896 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I always wondered the difference between the alnicos. Thanks for doing this comparison, and your other comparisons. They are very informative and helpful! I found myself liking the 2 and 4, and sometimes 3. Interesting how it depended on the style. 5s are very good for all around, I think.
@RC32Smiths01
@RC32Smiths01 5 жыл бұрын
Dang, this is indeed a very in depth comparison and analysis man! Now I want them all haha!
@jefdamen2977
@jefdamen2977 5 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah great info but still hard choices
@VintageRadius
@VintageRadius 5 жыл бұрын
Super helpful! This explains a lot to me about what I like about Gibson Classic 57s. It’s the lower output and clarity of the A2 that for me I preferred in every instance!
@garycasey7986
@garycasey7986 5 жыл бұрын
I was really surprised how much difference just changing the magnets made. Good video, very thought provoking.
@spkay31
@spkay31 5 жыл бұрын
Really well done Darrell. I think this provides a very good reference for guitarists who want to get a basic familiarity with the tone differences of these different magnet alloys. You did a great job of performing the test riffs very consistently which helps make the tone comparison more objective. It's not that easy to repeat the riffs with that amount of precision ;-)
@MarcCoteMusic
@MarcCoteMusic 5 жыл бұрын
For me, it was A3, then A2... same as you. Finally, for the heavy test... that was harder to pick a preference. I'd probably go for A8. The surprise, for me, was the ceramic pickup... I actually liked it in all the tests, though it wasn't my favourite in any one test. Most of the stuff I play is either clean-ish or crunchy, so after listening to these tests I checked what magnets are in my Pearly Gates and discovered they use Alnico 2. No surprise, then, that it was the A2 magnet I preferred for test #2. It's nice to know my ears haven't deceived me.
@UriahRoxx
@UriahRoxx 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, Darrell. After reading about swapping out magnets in a JB etc., on various forums, I've been waiting for a comparison video such as this. Thanks!
@MapleAudio
@MapleAudio 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Darrel, Recently I watch a lot of your videos because I am building my own guitar. It is just so good to hear alle the different options. Just Awesome what you have put together. Thanks a lot!
@SDPickups
@SDPickups 4 жыл бұрын
Before even watching this, you need to know one thing. There is NO standard recipe for any of the alnico grades. EACH manufacturer uses their OWN recipe. Now, as a pickup designer, this is a GOOD thing. It gives you a huge palette to play with. Example, I have A3 magnets that are super dark sounding, real warm and of course real WEAK, because A3 has no cobalt in it. I have A2 that is super super bright, and some that is really warm as well. So generalizations kinda don't work. A5 is usually quite strong and bright, but there are magnets like A5L which aren't super strong, nor bright. So, all we are hearing in this demo is magnets from ONE company in China. All magnets used in guitar pickups are Chinese, ALL of them. This is not a bad thing, it makes no difference. Back 20 years ago Korea made all pickup alnico, Chinese undercut the Koreans and sold for cost and killed the Korean market. We do have Arnold Magnetics in the USA, but in my experience, they are rather lifeless and bland sounding, back in the 90's, Arnold magnets gave Fender pickups a bad reputation for being just BAD. They hired someone to figure out why the pickups were so disliked, I don't know that they figured out Arnold mags were just nothing like what anyone was making or even vintage magnets, but I had those in my Strat and the sound was lifeless and bland. Vintage magnets are usually really very bright but can have a tiny bit soft top end. My company brought back rough cast alnico back in 2007 working thru Allstar Magnetics and Magnetic Hold. Rough cast has no magic, they just look cool, beware any hype being used there. Allstar went through Sensmag in China, Magnetic Hold wouldn't tell me who they used, and their 2nd attempt to make them completely failed as the magnets all came out extremely thick, we had to grind them down to thickness and the rough texture was ground away. Sensmag still sells my magnets and they are very good. Vintage magnets were all pretty much quite WEAK too. I've worked on tons of vintage PAF's and typically the magnets all measure about 400-450 gauss. By '61 the magnets were getting stronger as alnico technology improved, and some could reach 600 gauss in a hot recharge measurement. By '65 they were A5 magnets, very tiny and thin, but strong.
@ipuya
@ipuya 4 жыл бұрын
So do you have any experience with pickup magnets?
@FiveOnTheSide
@FiveOnTheSide 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. Very interesting.
@orde_plongo.3.0
@orde_plongo.3.0 3 жыл бұрын
u should make vid 'bout that.. Maybe that vid will be your "one hit wonder" in Yt..
@goneflying140
@goneflying140 3 жыл бұрын
@@orde_plongo.3.0 Dave has a hugely popular video series about PAF pickups. If you are interested in true PAF tone at all, you should subscribe to his channel and watch his videos. He knows more about PAF'S than ANYBODY.
@curtrod
@curtrod 3 жыл бұрын
@@goneflying140 I believe it, judging by how much his pickups cost!😁
@Furtheronmusic
@Furtheronmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Really brilliant test. Not sure whether it'll influence future purchases but get way to test kudos to Darkmoon
@BCTGuitarPlayer
@BCTGuitarPlayer 4 жыл бұрын
This is the answer I’d been waiting for, for months! Thank you sir for this full rundown👍
@Terry3Gs
@Terry3Gs 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Darrell exploring the topic !!
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry!
@claudiosuarez1256
@claudiosuarez1256 5 жыл бұрын
Great video ,!!! thank you Darrel , without a doubt THE best youtube video about guitar pickups magnets xD
@TheChadPad
@TheChadPad 5 жыл бұрын
My favorites were 3 for clean, 4/3 for blues rock, and 8/ceramic for high gain. Nice test. This stuff is invaluable
@ryanintopeka
@ryanintopeka 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, phenomenally well done. Like others have already said, this is what we all needed when we searched this topic!
@jayjay7014
@jayjay7014 5 жыл бұрын
Great video.... you are dispelling myths with every video you come out with thanks for for all the effort!!
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
This one was on my "to do" list for a LONG time! What were your favorite tones? I keep oscillating between A2 and A3. On some clips I like the warmth of A3, and on others the clarity and bite of A2 :)
@cleberdossantosviotto7164
@cleberdossantosviotto7164 5 жыл бұрын
I had the same opinion, a2 a3 and a5 are the best sounding pick-up settings at clean, on overdrive a2 a3 are awesome and a8/c8 got too much treeble imo. On High gain a3 and a5 kills it. C8 looks to be apropriated to metal 🤘
@ToddsGuitarShop
@ToddsGuitarShop 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really liking the A3!
@franciscodanconia3551
@franciscodanconia3551 5 жыл бұрын
Through my headphones, the 4s were the greatest amongst a field of awesome in every test. 3 was my second favorite clean, 5 my second favorite for the middle test and 2 overdriven.
@jw_au
@jw_au 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you, toss up between 2 and 3 for me...
@thestratman9
@thestratman9 5 жыл бұрын
I liked them all for different reasons, and I personally use pickups with alnico 2, 5 and ceramic 8 magnets, but I really liked what I was hearing with alnico 4. I might have to try some pickups with that magnet.
@MangaJosh
@MangaJosh 4 жыл бұрын
I wish the last test would have been in the bridge position. There was just too much bass from the neck position.
@IllyaKonakov
@IllyaKonakov 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! That was a super test! Listened to it three times. And it has confirmed my inclination to A4 magnets in pickups. My favorites for clean were (from most favorable to less) A4, C8 and A2; for crunch A3, A4 and A2; and for gain I would choose A4, C8 and A3.
@stevejamieson1613
@stevejamieson1613 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a loaded pickgaurd with 250k pots and these truly amazing vintage 60’s style pickups with Alnico 5’s for my Strat. Made locally here in Australia by this old guy. Blown away by them!! Amazing the difference between magnets! pretty impressed by the ceramics in this comparison btw. You seem to be a champion for ceramic pickups 😉
@misinformationwithrandy
@misinformationwithrandy 5 жыл бұрын
This made me want to buy 3 guitars with 3 pickup configurations. 3, 5 and 8. And I appreciated that you shared your thoughts.
@SaxJockey
@SaxJockey 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Strat with stock A5 and a second Strat (bargain) that I am going to fit A2 (Tonerider AII Blues).
@Fatherflot64
@Fatherflot64 5 жыл бұрын
Alnico II rules. I hate hot pickups. You can always add dirt. You can't add clean.
@carlodevivomusicontent2138
@carlodevivomusicontent2138 5 жыл бұрын
too mid-rangie for my taste
@skillracoonful
@skillracoonful 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah alnico II was a clear winner for cleans imho
@vizzo7
@vizzo7 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer a balanced alnico V. and keep the guitar for long and then I will have sooner or later alnico II. But if you start with alnico II you will end up with Allshito . By the way all the pickup thing is quite voodoo thingy
@dabman9688
@dabman9688 4 жыл бұрын
If only we had some way to turn the volume down....like a knob or something
@TheGearaxyz95
@TheGearaxyz95 4 жыл бұрын
My Duncans don´t have that problem, actually.
@ibjessemon
@ibjessemon 5 жыл бұрын
I really really like how much effort you put into making sure the only thing you change is the thing you actually want to test!
@natman6905
@natman6905 4 жыл бұрын
Props. Having done the experiment myself, this video is a colossal contribution to the guitar nerd world! Well done DBG
@cpamiseso
@cpamiseso 5 жыл бұрын
DARKMOON IS REALLY AWESOME! I NEVER SEE THINGS LIKE THAT!
@donaldwolpert6356
@donaldwolpert6356 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this vlog! I am a big fan of the ALNICO V for pickups. I love the tone and output from them! Watching this is like rooting for your favorite team in the playoffs. I am glad they made a decent showing. Thanks for sharing your "experiment" and results!
@gittarpikk
@gittarpikk 2 жыл бұрын
Best compare I ave ever seen!...perfect!!. Answered every question I had on each magnet
@vdoundakov
@vdoundakov 5 жыл бұрын
As always, just a great video. I really wonder what the 4 guys that didn't like it had in mind.
@jasong546
@jasong546 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent job! I liked the 4. I complained to you about my 498/490 stock pups, but I decided not to change because of your pup comparisons. I found that I simply have to use all the controls on the guitar and amp and I spent a little more time adjusting and listening to the height. I got them sounding the way I like them to. If you don’t have the money to buy new ones, work on altering your settings and adjustments and you might find they are just fine. Thanks again Darrell!
@pjmuck
@pjmuck 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to do this. My ears still gravitate to Alnico IIs for best/most versatile overall PUP.
@HighlineGuitars
@HighlineGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
This comparo mirrors my own personal tests, which helped me to decide on alnico II for my vintage pups, alnico V for my mid output pups and alnico VIII for my high output pups. I may use this video when asking clients to describe the tone they want. Brilliant.
@jamesk1619
@jamesk1619 5 жыл бұрын
I think they all sounded pretty good with subtle differences. I'd have to pick Anico V's for the best in all 3 tests. Alnico III's sounded very jazzy which I also liked. Kinda of an odd timing for this vid.. I've been thinking of picking up a Fender Player Strat that has the V's.. I may have to blame it on this vid when the wife sees the guitar...
@bryantwalley
@bryantwalley 3 жыл бұрын
The 4's had the best pitch balance and clarity on what we are hearing from KZfaq. Both from my ear and the frequency analysis. I could easily see people preferring the 2's and 3's to get more accentuation on the high end and keeping the clarity. You can always add in some low end and dirt if you want too. The 5's are what they are. The 8's would need a lot of post work unless you just looking for crunch and dirt.
@mendBOT
@mendBOT 3 жыл бұрын
The 8's are useless for clean tones, I have them on my guitar and it's almost impossible to get that "edge of breakup" tone, it's always too hot. I'll be changing them soon because it's really difficult to deal with that.
@bryantwalley
@bryantwalley 3 жыл бұрын
@@mendBOT yes sir. only good for crunch and dirt.
@JeffKeel
@JeffKeel 5 жыл бұрын
this was fantastic. Really great comparison and I think this will help us figure out what we want in our pickups and how to explain why.
@CatchMeOutside361
@CatchMeOutside361 5 жыл бұрын
Darkmoon your badass! Darrell your badass!!!! Love this video man! Let’s see part 2 with the bridge pickup 😀🤘🏽
@AlexusDelphi
@AlexusDelphi 5 жыл бұрын
I really liked: Clean: A4, C8 OD: A2 Saturated: A3, A5, A8, and C8
@williamolsen20
@williamolsen20 5 жыл бұрын
Dark Moon is a great company. High quality pickups at a reasonable price considering what some companies charge for custom would pickups. I have a cheaper Les Paul Tribute and I dropped Dark moon pickups in it and i love them.
@nanaandbump.
@nanaandbump. 4 жыл бұрын
This was a very well done comparison, thanks for sharing!
@hearpalhere
@hearpalhere 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Alinco II's, especially on the clean and lower drive sounds, it's really awesome. Great comparison Darrell!
@joshuatreat8106
@joshuatreat8106 5 жыл бұрын
That. Was. AWESOME! Today I like the A3. Tomorrow maybe the A2.😅
@FluidRat
@FluidRat 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'd personally pair a set with Alnico III in the neck with Alnico IV in bridge, the distortion on the IV sounded really clear for me, not too saturated, hit in a nice way, but the III was very warm yet clear and could see that being thrown into a neck pup
@qua7771
@qua7771 7 ай бұрын
I'm getting ready to do that to my Pearly Gates pups as soon as the magnets arrive.
@ericdenton6664
@ericdenton6664 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate what you do and the work you put into these videos and you channel. I can tell you love guitar as much as I.
@stevelaferney3579
@stevelaferney3579 4 жыл бұрын
I’m really liking both A-II, A-III. I can’t see more than A-IV. Ran it back n forth several times with earphones. Thanks, Darrell for this cool, very well done test.
@launder0
@launder0 5 жыл бұрын
Tha'ts a pro-level comparison right there! There's just one thing I think you could improve, and it's not hard at all: do quickier A-B's between a pair of magnets, instead of whole chunks of music. This way we can have a better feeling for the difference in the spot
@lukegoffkat
@lukegoffkat Жыл бұрын
I agree! Really need quick switching so the ears don't forget the last tone.
@cristilepadatu79
@cristilepadatu79 3 жыл бұрын
Clean: A5 Medium Gain: A2 High Gain: C8 Best Overall: A4 A3 seemed to me like it had a mid-range honk. Which might sound very good through mid-scooped amps like black-face Fenders... A4 seemed to me like the most versatile of the batch. Given the tone pots are subtracting, you might tame the top-end of A5/8 with the tone knob...
@jremi
@jremi Жыл бұрын
Great job (three years late)! You answered all the questions I had on the magnets and more! Thanks a lot!
@SkyscraperGuitars
@SkyscraperGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
I would agree, 4 and 8 are similar... Totally not my cup of tea, but interesting to hear back to back. This backs up my preferences with 2 and 5 as the mags I like to use.
@DogFoodTunes
@DogFoodTunes 5 жыл бұрын
Neck position on a LP can be mushy, loved the A2. Bridge is where A5 rules. Thanks, great test!
@pantreus7622
@pantreus7622 5 жыл бұрын
I have a LP Studio Deluxe with a horribly mushy neck (490r). That’s got an Alnico II. I’m considering swapping it for a V. Hopefully it’ll brighten things up a bit.
@CrankCase08
@CrankCase08 5 жыл бұрын
@@pantreus7622 An easy means of giving the neck humbucker pickup more clarity is to insert a 0.04 mfd capacitor in series with the 'hot' lead. It filters out the low frequencies that cause mush and boom.
@michaelmccasland
@michaelmccasland 5 жыл бұрын
Ted Riggs My suggestion would be an A4 instead of a 5. I have a 496, which is basically a 490 with a ceramic, that I swapped for an A4 and I'm in love. From clean, to overdriven, to high gain, it sings. Very nicely rounded tone, without too much treble or bass, while keeping single note definition during full chords.
@Pim3211
@Pim3211 5 жыл бұрын
Alnico 2 all the way, what a revelation!! 😀😀 thank you Darrel!
@DDWyss
@DDWyss 3 жыл бұрын
AlNiCo 2 FTW!!! Thanks Darrell, for doing this awesome and informative comparison!
@jeffreyradick6486
@jeffreyradick6486 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's my 60 year old hearing or my headphones (beats studio, maybe 5 years old), or maybe just not knowing what to listen for, but aside from a gradual progression from "slightly cleaner" to "slightly grittier" I have a very difficult time perceiving much difference between these. Still, it's really interesting to see such a direct comparison and to have that in mind when viewing or reading all the inflated claims about this or that type of pickup. I have about 10 electric guitars, some humbuckers and some single-coil, and they all sound different (even listening to their acoustic sound not plugged in) but I remain fairly puzzled about how to account for the differences adequately.
@TheTyphoon3737
@TheTyphoon3737 5 жыл бұрын
Also take into account that KZfaq heavily compresses the audio, so you really aren't getting the full story (even with really neutral and clean high end headphones).
@mindfall82
@mindfall82 3 жыл бұрын
Also depends on the wind, some manufacturers wind them hotter so you could get 2 dif A3s one higher and one lower output
@jimmiguitarz4222
@jimmiguitarz4222 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. My ear prefers the A2.
@Thrillrider10
@Thrillrider10 5 жыл бұрын
Looking for new pickups for my guitar, so this video had a lot of really good information. Thank you for uploading.
@ivan_talivan
@ivan_talivan 4 жыл бұрын
I love Alnico V and on the last test was the best so far (my taste). Thank you so much for the best comparation I've ever seen, the most accurate it on KZfaq as you always do.
@donovanowen3089
@donovanowen3089 5 жыл бұрын
It seems that they get progressively hotter. Would be interesting to see this done with single coils, if that were possible. Great video!
@simonr7097
@simonr7097 5 жыл бұрын
In a single coil, the magnets are the pole-pieces, unlike a humbucker where the pole-pieces are just metal in contact with the larger magnet that we see in the video. This means that you can't just swap the magnets in a SC, you have to change the whole pickup.
@donovanowen3089
@donovanowen3089 5 жыл бұрын
@@simonr7097 but could you do the same thing and have the magnet on the bottom? That's how ceramic single coils are.
@CharlesWillisBonsai
@CharlesWillisBonsai 2 жыл бұрын
@@donovanowen3089 that's basically what a P90 is
@TheRosswise
@TheRosswise 5 жыл бұрын
Alnico 5s for me. Alnico 2s sound really good too.
@hellsing1983
@hellsing1983 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Two was my favorite on each sound.
@nazamarcos
@nazamarcos 5 жыл бұрын
Man, congrats on your channel! You and Rick Beato are the best! Thanks for all the information! This is the best video EVER about pickup magnets!!!!
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@alanwalker1698
@alanwalker1698 5 жыл бұрын
I've always liked a3 magnets better, especially in a neck humbucker. I like a2 and a4 in bridge pickups. I rarely like a5 pickups in any position. You should do the same comparison in P90s.
@MrDomPolito
@MrDomPolito 3 жыл бұрын
Alnico III for me. When it comes to overdrive and distortion I believe the bridge pickups would have been a better choice to model.
@calebwhitcraft1664
@calebwhitcraft1664 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great demo, super helpful for someone trying to decide what type of magnets to look for.
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@scottperry8162
@scottperry8162 5 жыл бұрын
Oh thank you I've been waiting for this forever !!!
@VictorMan289
@VictorMan289 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh.. this video just had me realize i like A3 way more than the popular A5
@MrRyeDaddy
@MrRyeDaddy 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@johncrapper366
@johncrapper366 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Me too.
@m.e.c.j.5125
@m.e.c.j.5125 3 жыл бұрын
Try A4 !
@larrybethune3909
@larrybethune3909 3 жыл бұрын
I put A3's into Burstbucker pros last night. Huge difference in frequency response and feel. Keeper!
@Wesquire
@Wesquire 4 жыл бұрын
A2 and A3 were my favorites for clean and light gain. However, they lose too much definition with higher gain. A4 and A5 were best with higher gain.
@scott7521
@scott7521 Жыл бұрын
agree
@lazarusman86
@lazarusman86 5 жыл бұрын
👌🏻🤘🏻 I believe that this has become the only thorough video of how the sonic of different magnets work in the pickup. Really, it gives a better understanding, even to a simple person like myself who has tried to understand the inner workings over 25 years. The one opinion that I have with any of this, is that it would be wonderful for you to follow up and do a video of them in the bridge position as well - just to give people an idea of how to complement different magnets together for their styles and tastes.
@Bigjoedo66
@Bigjoedo66 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video Darrell !! I am a big Fan of Alnico V
@clockwork914
@clockwork914 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, but what about A5 unoriented❓
@Rollermanfromspace
@Rollermanfromspace 5 жыл бұрын
the Paul Harrell of the guitar world lol. For those of you who know, you know. Keep up the great work!
@leicesterblackthorne9699
@leicesterblackthorne9699 3 жыл бұрын
Paul and Darrell for when you really want to know.
@lukegoffkat
@lukegoffkat Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! It really helped me decide which type I want in the tele style guitar I just built!
@shawnreed9016
@shawnreed9016 5 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video. Thanks very informative. I love your videos.
@Darthhalitosis
@Darthhalitosis 5 жыл бұрын
Be awesome if you could do the same with a bridge pickup :)
@dalybaz
@dalybaz 3 жыл бұрын
What's stopping you?
@dannyvarga236
@dannyvarga236 5 жыл бұрын
After 40 years of live gigs and recording and having 40 plus guitar models, I can say that magnets or pickups mean very little! Why?...simple ...with a good compressor and EQ you can tone shape any pickup , humbucker or single coil. A small EQ cut or boost here, a little bit more compression and presto! instant tone shaping.
@pallecla
@pallecla 5 жыл бұрын
Very true.
@slpsteve2618
@slpsteve2618 5 жыл бұрын
I also agree. EQ tweaking can get you similar if not the same results.
@somebodyelseuk
@somebodyelseuk 5 жыл бұрын
Yep and the majority who piss about with this sort of stuff then go and undo their work with pedals that change the frequency curve anyway, usually to where they would have been without the pedal and the original magnet.
@SomeplaceWonderful
@SomeplaceWonderful 5 жыл бұрын
Like a properly chosen microphone, a properly chosen guitar means less need for EQ, compression, or any other processing. Less gak between the pickups and the tape is the ideal.
@somebodyelseuk
@somebodyelseuk 5 жыл бұрын
@@SomeplaceWonderful Agreed. They used to say the difference between a man and a woman was when a man meets a woman, he wants her to stay the same for ever. The woman wants to change him. Modern guitarists buy a guitar and then start modding it... draw your own conclusions ;) Hank Marvin wannabes are a prime example. They buy a Strat, change the pickups to something with no mid range, eq the highs and lows down, boost the midrange... they;re back where they started, £150 poorer and they increased back ground noise.
@harryharry9526
@harryharry9526 4 жыл бұрын
2) 3:00 3) 3:07 4) 3:15 5) 3:23 8) 3:31 C) 3:38 2) 5:27 3) 5:38 4) 5:50 5) 6:01 8) 6:13 C) 6:25
@nazmoking3171
@nazmoking3171 5 жыл бұрын
This might be your coolest test yet! I have studied the magnet types and read reviews. This is the first side by side test I've ever seen. I have a Simon Neil Squier signature strat that uses 3 Alnico pole pieces on the 3 high strings and 3 Alnico 5 poles on the lower strings on each of the 3 pickups - giving it a nice organic sound.
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks NK!
@theattentionwhores2406
@theattentionwhores2406 5 жыл бұрын
This might be one of the best things on KZfaq, can we now put tone wood to bed and accept it’s the pickups and scale length that make up most of the tone 😊
@kimhansen6384
@kimhansen6384 5 жыл бұрын
No - it is speakers
@MrFree-vj8qj
@MrFree-vj8qj 4 жыл бұрын
sure that's why there is like a full guide on what wood you have in choosing pickups on every pickup site. luthier's are jokes in choosing woods
@frankbrancatisano4743
@frankbrancatisano4743 3 жыл бұрын
I did see a video last night on youtube where the guy just swapped bodies but same neck, p ups strings and electronics and there was a bit more difference than with the p up magnet comparison , there was 5 different woods he was using , I cant remember the others but the swamp ash had a bit more bottom end and treble bite , the alder had more of a bell like chime and the mahogony had more bottom end and mids .
@willd5105
@willd5105 4 жыл бұрын
They all sound like legitimately good tones in their own context of desired output, but I am surprised how well the Alnico 5 stands out in comparison after hearing first the great sounding Alnico 2. The more bland/neutral A3 and A4 in between makes the A5 sound like a clear winner in the category of best of both worlds, the tone of the A2 with more output but not so high like the A8 and ceramic that the pole pieces have become over-saturated/less dynamic.While this test was executed with great skill in keeping the static conditions perfectly unchanged so that the variable could be examined in depth, there is one fault with the experiment in that the nature of side-by-side humbuckers to sum and cancel the extreme highs and lows. This is not a criticism because this question is meant to educate guitar players of what effect magnet types have in a humbucker, but to really 'hear' the effects of magnet composition, some sort of single coil made from a moulded plastic bobbin (to be able to pull out and replace rod magnets) or a P90 would display some seriously interesting audio artifacts to compare against. I'd do a video of it myself if I had the quality of video/audio recording available to me that you have; in the meantime I'll just subscribe to your channel, all sorts of interesting stuff I see. Take care and thank you.
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