If you want to do the chain clean once in a while with oiled chains you might find this helpful: I store my used fluids in extra containers. After some time the particles fall to the bottom and leave a mostly clean fluid. When I do another chain unlubing I carefully fill most of the clean fluid into the container with the chain. After taking the chain out of the degreaser I let wipe it and let it dry for a minute before rinsing it. In the end I might have to add one more alcohol clean. Like that I can reuse especially the more expensive and "unfriendly to the environment" fluids. Btw. please recycle these fluids instead of pouring the into the drain.
@jgreenjeans4 жыл бұрын
10:40 for the directions to clean
@numbcodm8333 жыл бұрын
saved me from a 16 minute video
@thomask8373 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jackt61123 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mydearriley2 жыл бұрын
Petrol - 300ml + chain in 1st container - Shake/leave sit for up to 4-8 hours Degreaser - 300ml + chain in 2nd container - Shake/leave sit ~30 minutes Rinse with Water Denatured EtOH/Methylated Spirits - 300ml + chain in 3rd container - shake/leave sit ~30 minutes * Dump and refill with 300ml EtOH in 3rd container for second treatment or until liquid is clear
@isyoureadyskidaddy3 жыл бұрын
I'm a year and a half into prepping my mtb chain as Oz directs herein. THIS TECHNIQUE ROCKS! And it produces quantifiable results in shifting, chain life, and cleanliness of the drivetrain. I used to spend a considerable amount of time trying to get my chain and drivetrain clean and well lubed for shifting performance. Oz's technique does take some time and preparation, but I now batch prep 2 chains for each family member's bike, and simply swap out the chains with freshly cleaned/waxed ones as needed; and then I can clean and re-wax at my leisure. In the end, I'm saving time by using this technique rather than using the lubes of old. I love how clean my drivetrain stays--that's a great benefit of this technique. But my favorite part is the longevity of great shifting. I ride about 50 miles/week on trails that are often dry and dusty in the Colorado Front Range. I get good shifting for at least 4x longer than I did pre-waxing. I'm still using my initial batch of 1 lb. of wax w/ 50 grams of teflon (PTFE) and have probably done initial waxing and re-waxing about 15 times. It's almost time for a new batch of wax/teflon. Oh yeah, I picked up a used slow cooker on craigslist for $10. I couldn't find PTFE in 1.6 micron size in the US, but the 3 micron size is doing the trick; but I don't doubt that smaller size PTFE is better. Thank you Oz! This is one of the most satisfying changes I've made that produces great results with bike maintenance. I raise my glass to you brother!
@stevenleffanue3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear how its working for you , cheers 🚲😎
@SuperOCHomes4 жыл бұрын
I got black carbon bike so, my chain matches
@CaffeineJogger4 жыл бұрын
I purchased my carbon bike from a builder in Sydney that swore by having his chain oily thick gunky black.
@elwoodzo4 жыл бұрын
Lol, thanks mate good laughter here
@FilipKmiecik3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@BeachBoi10003 жыл бұрын
Get brown chain for mountain bike
@DR_1_12 ай бұрын
More seriously this is for Australia, California, or summer time... Just forget about wax for rainy climates or very cold weather.
@romedeiros704 жыл бұрын
I have watched this video a few times and it finally hit me why it seems familiar: you shake the jars like John Cleese rings a bell in the Monty Python interview skit. I thank you for the wax instruction, and for the reminder!
@upsydaysy30423 жыл бұрын
LOL thank you for solving it for me
@MrDarren344 жыл бұрын
Started waxing my chain as watched your other videos and love it .. Keep up the good work .
@w4yland3r274 жыл бұрын
This was incredible. Well explained, clean and simple editing, and insanely useful. Thank you for a great video!!
@GerardvanReekum Жыл бұрын
I do the same, even with my biodegradable degreaser.
@andreww31164 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all your videos. They're some of the most informative and helpful episodes anywhere. I especially love the "chain" videos and am now a waxing convert. I look forward to all future productions.
@joshualancekemp Жыл бұрын
Yo! Fist bump from a fellow convert to waxing! Just now at the 2 year mark. My chain wear has dropped off a cliff. Chainrings and cassettes are still like new. Super quiet and no more chainring tattoos on group rides.
@petermarky80553 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the thorough video!! Watched on a Tuesday. Started my new chain cleaning and waxing routine by Friday. This is gold!! I love it!!!
@johnwilliamson94534 жыл бұрын
This is perhaps the best explanation of chain cleaning and reason to use a dry lubricant that I have ever seen. Just excellent work!
@jamlee3444 жыл бұрын
Chains going to be clean, wife's going to be dirty about everything that belongs in the kitchen is now in the shed. 😂
@jonathan___46844 жыл бұрын
Steve, whenever you post it brightens my day and I always end up with a smile! You've taught me more about bike care and maintenance as well as tips and tricks than anyone else! Keep it up mate! Much love!
@agentleebs4 жыл бұрын
From my lab days - the best way to get rid of the dirty petrol (gasoline) and methylated spirits (alcohol) is to let it evaporate in the sunshine. Wipe away the dry residue and dispose of that properly. I use one of those simple black pans sold for oil changes. It sounds like a strange method, but industry is allowed to let evaporate thousands of gallons of chemicals on a weekly basis. Evaporation much better than pouring it on the ground or down a drain. Thanks for this great cleaning technique.
@rodrimora4 жыл бұрын
is gasoline or diesel better?
@agentleebs4 жыл бұрын
Rodri Mora since it’s the first wash, I don’t think it would make much difference in the end. Gasoline will evaporate easier. Whatever is easiest for you. Diesel is close to kerosene and heating oil #2 in USA.
@20glen204 жыл бұрын
I have roughly followed your wax method for a year on commuter.This vid encouraged me to do better clean first. Thanks Steve.
@CharlesCarlsonC34 жыл бұрын
Okay, this is a great video on chains and lubrication strategies, the best. The chain wear portion made the best sense, and I thought the use of several solvents and serial dilution techniques were outstanding! Thanks!
@chrisbowman20304 жыл бұрын
I use wax one my Road bikes for years now. Works perfectly fine. This winter I started to go gravel instead of indoor training. Here's the problem: in temperatures around 0 Deg Celsius and below the wax became brittle and just falls off the chains. After 20 km off-road mud is the only "lubricant" being left and shifting becomes f***d. After going back to synthetic oil the problem is solved. My result: summer bike=wax, winter bike=oil
@storegga2 жыл бұрын
found the same up here in scotland mate. winter/gravel bike is oil and my summer/road bike which only really sees dry miles wax. perfect solution for me
@NameyNames Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up, I never considered at or below 0 deg C to be a potential problem. But it appears there may be ways to make it work better, such as putting the chain on the bike indoors while the chain is still warm from the pot, and then pedal through all the gears to work the wax in. Found some interesting info here: bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/65738/how-does-paraffin-chain-wax-perform-in-winter-conditions-snow-road-salt-20
@derek751167 ай бұрын
Thankyou people of experience 👍 This is my suspicion of wax lubricants.
@edsassler6 ай бұрын
Wax does better than oils because it’s a solid lubricant so it doesn’t mix with dirt and it can reduce friction better than most oils. Waxes sold for hot waxed chains do become brittle when cold. Much like using different viscosity oil in your car engine for different seasons, cold weather cycling requires a change in the wax used. I’m going to create a blend of chain wax and bees wax to lower the usable temperature.
@DR_1_12 ай бұрын
Same issue with rain, or puddles, forget about wax, or clean and rewax after every ride. Also sprockets will start to rust.
@topgun524 жыл бұрын
There's no new wax coming, he's just pulling your "CHAIN"! LOL Great Videos, thanks 4 sharing!
@raphtabiner40693 жыл бұрын
This guy explains everything so well
@robertstainthorpe82584 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Would loved to have seen you wearing those safety glasses hanging on the board, but I'm funny like that. Cheers, and a stunning collection of bikes at the beginning.
@derek751167 ай бұрын
For a period of my early working life I repaired avionic equipment where the workshop had a glass faced vacuum chamber . The ultimate relube is to put your clean chain into your lubricant of choice , agitate beaker to remove majority of air and then evacuate the environment to equivalent 40 thousand feet or so. Many many bubbles leave the links of the chain and oil/hot wax fills the void. It was very satisfying to watch knowing how thorough a job was being done. I question how much wax , even when hot ,truely gets to the actual wearing parts as shown in this video but its the best method I can do these days. This video does a great job showing how to get the wax to stick to where it gets access but surface tension would inhibit a lot into the small spaces that matter as I witnessed years ago! Missing from this video are the pressure ratings of waxes compared to oils. This doesn’t detract from the virtues of wax contained in this vid though.
@ThePixelize4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your videos. I degreased my chain in white gas (every 2000km), and in-between with the blue washing saloon tool ;) you presented. What can I say? Rode 4000km on it (in all weather conditions), and there is practically no chain wear. Apart from striving to achieve the best (legit reason IMHO), I don't exactly see the point to do anything else -- I'm happy to get a new chain every 6000km or so.
@sethleigh88504 жыл бұрын
I've been doing a slight variant on this method for several years that's quicker and simpler, plus my own little twist. I use these same little plastic containers, pour in some mineral spirits, and swish the chain around. I have a rare earth magnet taped to the outside bottom of the container. The rare earth magnet will attract the microscopic steel wear particles to the bottom of the container and hold them there. I'll shake the chain in the mineral spirits and let it soak for a little bit, then pull it out after it's settled a little (and the wear particles are bunched up at the bottom of the container by the magnet), then put them in another container with cleaner mineral spirits and give it a rinse. Then it's just hung up to dry, reinstalled onto the bike, re-lubed, and off I go. It's possible that a third rinse in brand-new mineral spirits would achieve an even more thorough cleansing, but it's really unnecessary. With the rare earth magnet trapping the overwhelming majority of any metal wear particles in the first bucket, and another rare earth magnet trapping any wear particles that were still present in the second rinsing bucket, this chain is as clean and free of wear particles as it reasonably needs to be. If you try this with the rare earth magnet, you'll be shocked at how much stuff is stuck to it, and after only a few hundred miles of riding. The amount of worn steel particles pulled out of a really good-looking and relatively new chain that's been ridden is probably far greater than most folks would predict. Getting that material out of the chain is the primary benefit of this method of cleaning, because removing wear particles from the insides of the chain where the links contact each other is going to reduce the rate of wear.
@kick22994 жыл бұрын
Don't mineral spirits leave an oily, petroleum based, film? I do the same as you, but I follow on with dish soap and water, to get rid of the mineral spirits and then denatured alcohol to "dry" the water out of the chain. I'll add that mineral spirits, like you mentioned, are probably safer than using petrol... In the US people are highly discouraged from using petrol for anything except running engines because of how flammable it is.
@markfisher79623 жыл бұрын
Methylated spirits, not mineral spirits! That's stove fuel alcohol here in the US. Aside from the final cleaning, it'll get (dissolve) ALL the water from between the plates.
@matthewlocker49613 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me where you got these containers? They look ideal for this but I can't locate them using normal searches. Thanks!
@davidsture56773 жыл бұрын
@@matthewlocker4961 old peanut butter jars or that sort of thing works well.
@Joewylie33 жыл бұрын
Consider a neodymium magnet. 13X more powerful than standard.
@2wheelsrbest3274 жыл бұрын
Yet another great video. Constantly raining here in UK so will shortly be using this method to clean my chain.. Thanks
@markrushton15164 жыл бұрын
the petro-chemical industry thanks you. Informative video and that Canyon looks lovely with the matched details.
@rzeckner4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I am a long time fan of waxing and Santa brought me an ultrasonic cleaner last year. FYI, methylated spirit is more commonly known as denatured alcohol in the USA and perhaps in other locales. Since the rinse water is miscible in alcohol it also provides the benefit of removing any hidden water before waxing.
@derekhobbs11024 жыл бұрын
Metho or denatured alcohol is good for water contamination in petrol tank.
@ElonMuckX4 жыл бұрын
Is rubbing alcohol the same thing too?
@rzeckner4 жыл бұрын
@@ElonMuckX Rubbing alcohol is generally a blend of isopropyl alcohol and other chemicals that enhance its appeal when used for massaging. I suspect it could substitute for denatured in this application but since it likely contains small amount of fragrant oils, it might not provide as squeaky clean a result as denatured alcohol although I doubt you or I could notice the difference. Denatured is not pure alcohol either. It is primarily ethanol (the alcohol in spirits such as whiskey) but it contain other substances to discourage and prevent folks from drinking it.
@ElonMuckX4 жыл бұрын
I just did the 3rd step, using rubbing alcohol. Had to do it twice, made it clean. Used White Lightning for my chain lube, till we get the new wax recipe.
@iancanuckistan22444 жыл бұрын
I have 3 Melitta coffee filter cones that I run the solvents through when I'm done. The really fine particles will clog the filters occasionally so you may have to use 2 or 3 filters. I'm still using your original wax recipe, I made a large batch that will last me another couple of years.
@OWK0002 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what he was calling "wax". I have to find the wax video, I guess.
Once you've filtered the solvents, do you keep them in the same containers for the next time you do the deep chain cleaning?
@Phil..._4 жыл бұрын
Lovely job mate. You cope very well with being so overwhelmingly right on this
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
Have 6 other riders here been testing it for quite a while now.
@daveyJ2134 жыл бұрын
Wow! Now I know how to deep clean my chain. Thanks for posting.
@bentrider4 жыл бұрын
LOL. I love how everything on KZfaq is always "the ultimate!"
@dopedal49834 жыл бұрын
LOL. It is 'The Ultimate' until another ultimate shows up! Then it starts all over again.
@wtfiswiththosehandles4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it's available in Australia, but here in Poland we commonly use low-aromatic extraction naphtha. Very potent degreaser, guaranteed to remove all grease, oils, dirt and grime. Leaves the chain extremely dry.
@user-pb6nm6yb6e4 жыл бұрын
How it's called in polish?
@wtfiswiththosehandles4 жыл бұрын
@@user-pb6nm6yb6e benzyna ekstrakcyjna
@user-pb6nm6yb6e4 жыл бұрын
@@wtfiswiththosehandles thanks
@sandythemonk Жыл бұрын
Is this chemical sold in hardware shops? If yes, then any idea if it is sold in Germany or Austria too?
@orbitaljellyfish8084 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Subscribed for the wax update late December 👏👏
@weler24914 жыл бұрын
This dude is a real scientist, very interesting content
@robari24103 жыл бұрын
Skip to 10:37 otherwise you will quit watching this vid.
@WillBeebe3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I almost stopped at a minute in thinking it was just a dude fingering random bike chains...
@democratssuxmaga79653 жыл бұрын
Holly cow.. a 4 minute video turned into a 16 video..
@onlineorder36923 жыл бұрын
thanks for doing gods work...
@jalapenohotcakes3 жыл бұрын
I'll be sure to keep my eye out for creeps running around touching people's bikes. It's not your place, guy.
@michelbesedin70813 жыл бұрын
One thing to add - after each stage, or at least the last one, better to clean dry your chain with cloth but not to left it to dry by itself - that way spirits evaporated from the surface will not left those oily residue dissolved in spirit. Molecular mass of spirits is much less than oil in the chain and this oil will be left in chain after methanol evaporated. Yes, most part of it dissolved in spirit volume and stay in a jar with rest of the liquid but we are talking about Ultimate cleaning ;)
@paulmarkowski97943 жыл бұрын
OK, Oz, I'm all in- getting ready to wax a brand new chain as I convert from a Compact to Semi- Compact gear set. Had to review your cleaning process to get the chain ready for when my chain rings arrive. Maybe this summer (winter for us Yanks) I'll make a batch of the liquid- been lazy and using store bought wax drip after my initial wax bath. Thanks for the video.
@fabianmolyneux2308 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant in plain simple stepped out practicality. Thanks heaps so pleased I'm a locked in subscriber
4 жыл бұрын
It's all nice and good, a waxed chain must last really long and be very efficient, but i always feel that all this work and chemicals and tools kinda match the costs of buying a new chain more frequently. Those hours i spend with religiously cleaning and lubing my chain, i could be working on something else and earning more money than i would save with waxing. Sure, i still keep my chain as clean as possible, but life is too short to worry so much about it. It would be nice to have an actual calculation on the costs and savings though, certainly an interesting topic.
@30smsuperstrat4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@jlwong924 жыл бұрын
Watch his ultimate chain wax video. It’s only the initial clean that takes some time. Relaxing after is quite easy actually
@wawanbalik4 жыл бұрын
I buying a new chain still requires cleaning the cogs and chain rings. Waxed chain solves this too. Further the chemical wash is only required once, during first time.
@WeAllGetOwnd3 жыл бұрын
The parts the chain runs over also wear out slower with a good waxed and clean chain
@shawnpitman8763 жыл бұрын
@@wawanbalik You need to clean those regularly anyways, you goof.
@jimihenrik112 жыл бұрын
Actual information on his method for chain cleaning starts at 10:30
@JohnClowes7244 жыл бұрын
love the details that are explained. thanks!
@POSLifeline14 жыл бұрын
Going to do this this weekend with 2 chains! Thanks!
@jackglossop48594 жыл бұрын
I do a similar thing but I have a couple of extra stages. I like to start with aircraft grade Kerosine (preferably military) and then after the mentholated spirits I’ll finish the chain off in a bath of Cesium 137 solution. Instead of shaking the chain in plastic pots I have the winding mechanism from a cement truck upended on a concrete plinth in my garden, I power it from an old six litre Chevrolet V8 and I spin the mixtures up to 28,000 RPM, the point at which violent dew-point evaporation occurs.... then I just dry them on the radiator.
@theofeel20544 жыл бұрын
:D perfect i will try your method
@moi77484 жыл бұрын
I think I'll try your method Jack, sounds a little easier than the one shown 🤔
@user-lh8hn9kh9l4 жыл бұрын
back to boiling in paraphine, just like we did in old USSR and some still do
@williamwightman84094 жыл бұрын
It really works well.
@casperunnerup4 жыл бұрын
I'm subbed to 75+ channels. But this is the first channel I've turned notifications on for. Really want to see that new wax recipe
@alexanderniesporek26274 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video mate! Much appreciated
@MikeKay19783 жыл бұрын
This guy certainly got a strange fetisch feeling peoples chains up.
@Joopsmann3 жыл бұрын
I used to wax my chain years ago with just plain paraffin. I never really cleaned my chain properly though (at least nothing like this) and didn't re-wax as often as Oz recommends so I am sure that I was not getting the same lubrication or longevity benefits. I ordered some PTFE powder and looking forward to trying this method. I miss being able to take my rear wheel off without ending up a greasy mess. That's the nicest benefit, especially on the road. Thanks for posting this!
@matthewlocker49613 жыл бұрын
I've been doing paraffin for about 5 years now, usually rewaxing every 300 miles or so. Having a perpetually clean bike and chain is awesome. Like you though, I haven't cleaned the chains as well as I should have. Prior to my next waxing though I will be doing it properly. Then I'll wax in my new batch of PTFE'd paraffin and see how it works.
@Charl_Wait4 жыл бұрын
I needed this video more than the new waxing video. Well done! I cant wait for the waxing video.
@Pensi0nar3 жыл бұрын
One of the best accidental videos I stumbled upon! Thank you so much for your advices, much appreciated! Greetings from Romania!
@denisdan26103 жыл бұрын
Hy from Romania did u get what is menthileted spirit?
@emilelsan2 жыл бұрын
@@denisdan2610 Alcool tehnic
@denisdan26102 жыл бұрын
@@emilelsan ms
@denisdan26102 жыл бұрын
@@emilelsan folositi această metoda de ungere sau nu?
@emilelsan2 жыл бұрын
@@denisdan2610 da, ungere cu ceara
@wtfiswiththosehandles4 жыл бұрын
OK, so my chain's been chilling in degreaser for the past 3 weeks waiting for the new wax recipe...
@poured_treasures Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@poshlad774 жыл бұрын
I’m sure people are going to love cleaning that dirty oil from their nice clean patio tiles!
@jdbathome4 жыл бұрын
5
@rohanfrost5153 жыл бұрын
Exactly. What a goose!
@WillBeebe3 жыл бұрын
@@rohanfrost515 such a goose!
@flyinlo14743 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love his videos, but wiping black grease on the concrete was a little less than stellar.
@La1Z1Bri2 жыл бұрын
There are many videos on how to clean patio tiles.
@percival383010 ай бұрын
This is excellent. Thank you, I understand now why my chain gets so dirty so quickly, and also how to remedy it.
@caglesgolf4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the new wax video. Notifications have been turned on!
@Addiies4 жыл бұрын
Super, its been interesting following the gradual progression! :) ! DON'T FORGET ! to clean your cassette and crank-set when switching from liquid to wax!!! ;) or you did all that work for nothing
@ElonMuckX4 жыл бұрын
I want the new wax video, and I WANT IT NOW!!! ;)
@davidbahr85104 жыл бұрын
i even turned on notifications for this reason...
@dannyr3334 жыл бұрын
Hey there quick question... so once the mineral spirits step is done.... do you 1) rinse the chain again with water??? And 2) if not a rinse, so u just set it up to hang and dry for how long mineral spirits seem to dry faster than water so like 15 to 30 mins and from there apply a lube ??? Thx Danny
@mjs12314 жыл бұрын
Hilarious......
@SteveHofsaess3 жыл бұрын
@@dannyr333 no need to wash the chain after mineral spirits,, just hang it up for a few minutes
@stevenleffanue3 жыл бұрын
Once the mineral spirits is clear when shaken,your chain us clean. Chain dries in about 10 mins...any left in the chain will be replaced with wax and evaporate
@Duettoholger4 жыл бұрын
It is winter in Germany right now. So we are freezing and trying to keep our legs strong on spinning bikes in the gym.Time to change worn out parts and clean the drivetrain. I am going to try waxing the chain of my MTB. Thank you for a great vid from the other side of the world - i still think you guys are driving on the "wrong" side. I am confident that your method of waxing also works on the "right" side.
@petermilenkovic30584 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always
@stuartdryer13524 жыл бұрын
So Steve, is cleaning in this way the secret to the performance you got with wax in your previous video or have you also improved the wax recipe?
@gadsden4724 жыл бұрын
He mentions a new wax formula, if I remember correctly he is thinking by the end of 2019.
@paulgallagher29372 жыл бұрын
Ultrasonic cleaner works great with degreaser. What you need to do is get a glass jar just big enough for the chain. Put degreaser in it. Use the minimum amount needed so you don't waste. Put the jar in water in the ultrasonic cleaner. Most of the ultrasonic action transfers into the jar. So then you can change the degreaser several times. If you use anything flammable, be extremely careful. The ultrasonic can get it hot and start a fire. If you ride a lot, I think it would be convenient to keep 3 chains on hand so you can clean 2 at once and always have one ready to go.
@uroskovic2488 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Paul. I bought ultrasonic cleaner just for chain cleaning, and imagining in glass with degreeser will do. I will do exactly that way you did and i wonder and hope the theory will do.😅
@nenadbogar98594 жыл бұрын
i usually take about 15min to wash my bike. this process is a full day just for the chain :) but thanks! very good :)
@timothydodd2963 жыл бұрын
I thought I had a clean chain once. Then I put it in the ultrasonic cleaner at work. Black stuff flowed out. Amazing.
@nceebee68593 жыл бұрын
Simple Green is a non toxic, biodegradable degreaser that does a great job, as a soak or brush down.
@ElonMuckX4 жыл бұрын
My bike party's, so no metholated spirits.........it get Ketel One Vodka!!!
@keithglanz75343 жыл бұрын
Howdy, A note on my experience with the ultimate clean and PTFE waxing: Having almost destroyed my BB30 bottom bracket from dirty waste from on-bike degreasing getting into the bracket, I was determined to switch over to clean “off bike” waxing. I bought a new KMC X10SL chain for my Felt Z85 training road bike and followed your instructions to the letter to clean the chain of its original heavy lube: gasoline, degreaser, 190 proof grain alcohol ( methylated spirits without the poison component). I then waxed/PTFEd the chain. I sensed the chain to be a little faster than when wet lubed, but not quite as quiet or smooth shifting. Still, I love the non greasy aspect. After 200 miles I went to rewax. I cleaned the outer chain with boiling water, but then inadvertently dislodged the outer plate of the last link so that the roller fell out. When picking it up I noticed that there was still a lot of original grease from the factory lube on this inner chain part. The 3 step cleaning process had not penetrated completely to the inner roller. I replaced the roller and rewaxed, but I am convinced I could have a cleaner, smoother shifting experience if my chain was truly sterile before waxing. I’m not really sure how to achieve my goal. If you have any thoughts, let me know. As always, I’m grateful for your fascinating and useful guides for tinkering cyclist. Best wishes, Keith
@stevenleffanue3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for that experience Keith it highlights how getting the chain clean initially is a thorough process.
@dirkbeauboir85214 жыл бұрын
you're a legend, keep it up!!!
@nikolalisjak77343 жыл бұрын
Hello, so a year ago, after watching this video I decided to give it a try. I really cleaned the chain as much as I could, however I didn't clean the freewheel. It worked nice for one or two dips into wax. Unfortunately later it became so dirty that I had to repeat the whole procedure again, and inspecting the chain I saw I still couldn't remove all the dirt from the outer surface of bearings. Also on one occasion, washing in soap has left stains on chain because petrolin didn't fully cleaned it. I really hoped I will not need to clean the chain again, so I figure that waxing is better when you have new chain and new freewheel. As with the current situation I am returning to good old machine oil.
@sandythemonk Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. By machine oil you mean the sewing machine oil? If yes, then how long does it provide lubrication? Is it recommended for wet conditions?
@nikolalisjak7734 Жыл бұрын
@@sandythemonk I don't know, I just lubricated it, and forgot about it.. Though I don't ride as often now, and especially not in wet conditions.
@darsweave4 жыл бұрын
"Pearl... whatever" lol
@arkan19604 жыл бұрын
The wonderful master I've seen
@JamesWalters14 жыл бұрын
Great videos. Thanks
@carlosflanders5184 жыл бұрын
Always good to combine polar and non-polar solvent cleaning stages. They remove different types of contaminants. For ultra-cleaning my lab uses a combo of heptane and acetone stages. Sometimes incorporating ultrasound and boiling. But any combo of hydrocarbon and alcohol (or similar) is a good place to start.
@Bultish8 ай бұрын
Hi there, I've seen a bunch of different methods after getting in to the subject and I wonder:. Would only using acetone in sufficient repeats work before waxing?
@stevenleffanue8 ай бұрын
@Bultish Yes acetone will clean your chain but may take longer soaks to disolve the factory grease. As long as you get all grease out of the links then your ready for the wax.
@Bultish8 ай бұрын
@@stevenleffanue sweet thanks for the info! By sheer luck it seems my ultrasonic cleaner i ordered got cancelled. Im going Oz style 3 containers and homemade wax, finally get a use for those candles lying in the cubbard 🤘🤘 you rock
@donjohnson4874 жыл бұрын
Waxed chains are great in Australia where it rains one day a year, not so much in muddy Flanders 😁
@bobferguson16964 жыл бұрын
I live in South Wales, rains most days, wax is perfect for shrugging off road dirt.
@brianbassett43792 жыл бұрын
I tried for the first couple of years with my latest bike (I have only owned and ridden a single bike at a time)... to keep it clean and shiny all the time, immaculate. I obsessed over the chain to the point of cleaning it during rides. This is all while averaging over 7K miles a year, 20 to 120 mile rides year around. That means for me, living in the Pacific Northwest, 4 to 6 months of riding in the rain and on muddy wet surfaces. I have a Rohloff Speedhub mounted on a full-suspension touring bike coupled to a BBSHD mid-drive and it's amazing. It's broken me to ever owning another bike without a Rohloff. The mid-drive and the Speedhub are made for each other, they go together like lamb and tuna fish. @ The 1st year I rode I changed the chain 8 times... whenever it got to 0.5% wear as tested with a Park tool. After another 25K miles and 4 years riding I now wipe the chain clean daily and swap my chains every 6 months. Drop the chain, flip or replace the Rohloff gear, mount a new chain, and ride. Always having a straight chain line makes it amazingly easy to maintain. 11 Jul 19 - 71 miles w/front panniers & trailer on less than 15Ah... 1/2 the pack's capacity. www.relive.cc/view/g37290970278 photos.app.goo.gl/RD1NrDPCZQuHpWja9 For anyone that thinks they can really clean the chain on the bike, follow this guy's instructions then pull the chain and drop it in some type of solvent and see how filthy it still is.
@onegrapefruitlover2 жыл бұрын
This guy’s instructions include soaking the chain in three different solvents until it’s perfectly clean, so… yeah it’s clean. It’s good that gearboxes work for you, but it doesn’t work for everyone. Cool dog BTW
@Cyclingmasterseller4 жыл бұрын
This is indeed one of the better quality TDF machines and TOP matching in the TDF period -- Colnago teamed up with Campagnolo, what a great team! P.S., I'd like to see lighter weight 19mm conti tubulars on there at 175psi, just saying!
@mmfong2973 жыл бұрын
For you in the States who don't know what is mentholated spirits, it's rubbing alcohol w/ethanol
@h82fail3 жыл бұрын
It goes by Denatured alcohol here, sold in hardware stores etc.
@imjustinjong39393 жыл бұрын
Can we use Jack Daniel instead?
@stevenleffanue3 жыл бұрын
Can think of something better to do with Jacks 😁
@danielbum9124 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Steve but I have the hardest time figuring out what exactly a degreaser is. Please don't laugh, hardware stores over here don't have a shelf labelled degreaser, just cleaners called after their main substance.. what's in it? Anything could be a degreaser.
@robertmcfadyen9156 Жыл бұрын
I use a cylindrical Decor Tellfresh container to rinse my bicycle chains & some components . Glass jars when used for this purpose can unexpectedly shatter . Boston degreaser from Bunnings is what I use or Workshop degreaser from Supercheap Auto .
@amit.mohite3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video👍🏾
@EditioCastigata4 жыл бұрын
Just so we're on the same page. Grease is what is in most bearings. NLGI 2 or the like. Don't oil them.
@shanedm33963 жыл бұрын
What bearing are you referring to? In the chain?
@andrewraphael50003 жыл бұрын
The petrol creates alot of gas fumes so much that the lid exploded off. Word of warning for everyone attempting.
@mydearriley3 жыл бұрын
Is there a good alternative to the petrol?
@stevenleffanue3 жыл бұрын
No
@MrProctitus6 ай бұрын
Great video as is the next one on waxing. You’ve convinced me to go belt drive, (at least for commuting and bike packing)
@mtaibouni644 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video .
@djwhu774 жыл бұрын
0:50 = waxed. Flips the bird at the other bikes 🤣
@jamonzonv4 жыл бұрын
Best Chain Clean Ever at 10:35 ;)
@marklenarc3 жыл бұрын
I don't have my own house to do the gasoline (petrol) soak but I do work at a car dealership so the first thing I did was rinse my chain in the solvent pan. Next I sprayed it with a can of brake cleaner then did a few soaks (lots of shaky-shaky-shakies) in degreaser. After that I did a few soaks (lots of shaky-shaky-shakies) with denatured alcohol followed by soak in solvent. After that I did a vat wash and flushed that out with another can of brake cleaner. It came out really clean and I did the wax bath and it works really well now! When I run out of my plain candles I'm gonna buy some scented candles.
@ronnyc76813 жыл бұрын
Also love your vids.
@bigmac30064 жыл бұрын
Smears grease on the nice clean sidewalk.
@calltothewildwild6618 ай бұрын
Yes do this
@mikeaindow45324 жыл бұрын
Made a right mess of the floor tiles wiping the dirty wax oil on it. Would it not have been a good idea to have a cloth for your dirt to be wiped on?
@Leo-gt1bx Жыл бұрын
It's not as bad as oiling your chain.
@zimboy7773 жыл бұрын
thx for this my chain never been cleaner - will have to look at the chain wax drill now
@bartrupel4 жыл бұрын
You know, some of us in the northern hemisphere are riding in winter weather now, and would really like to start using a new wax formulation... We don’t even need a video, just a list of ingredients and their proportions... ;) I’m ready to buy some MSW, but I’m holding out for the marginal gains and because I like to DIY. You’re killing us with this slow tease! I guess I’ll keep reapplying Slick for now.
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
Can't let out the formula just yet Bart,I'm waiting for some final test results but it's all look good and on track. Itl be worth the wait.
@richardggeorge4 жыл бұрын
Just use pure Paraffin in the meantime it works great
@stepforward16054 жыл бұрын
I am biased. To mess around with all these chemicals. Hope you don't put them in the sink afterwards
@clacclackerson36784 жыл бұрын
13:25.
@kick22994 жыл бұрын
No kidding. I do a similar thing with mineral spirits and denatured alcohol, but I do all my washing in jars and collect the liquid in jugs for proper disposal.
@souloftheage4 жыл бұрын
"....And down to the public water plant we go.", say the carcinogenic aromatic hydrocarbons!.
@RunPJs3 жыл бұрын
Nahh, they just tip them on someone's clean floor
@Alex-m85153 жыл бұрын
Just drink after woulds
@EditioCastigata4 жыл бұрын
So you go around and finger… bicycle chains? Don't get caught mate. Shrinks definitely won't believe you run a KZfaq channel on that.
@AccFinEco4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! 👍❤👍
@paulk2324 жыл бұрын
Great video👌👌
@JFomo3 жыл бұрын
So much work. I think I'll just buy a new chain after every ride.
@myself67452 жыл бұрын
This is not so much work but so much time
@kaleyhepp8078 Жыл бұрын
Lol I guess having to go to the shop and pick up a chain, remove the chain and replace it is worth the time? Different perspectives I guess 😂 I would sooner take care of something rather than live a disposable lifestyle. Not to mention people who study chains say the chain doesn’t even reach maximum efficiency until you ride it for a while. Without proper lubrication, you would blow straight past that “sweet spot“ in chain stretch with low friction and go straight to higher friction stretched chain.
@zap... Жыл бұрын
Send your used chains to me!
@johnjenkinsmusic1 Жыл бұрын
😂
@neilbernstein36614 жыл бұрын
In California I would be arrested for using those chemicals!! :) Great way to clean a chain!! Although, I think he has way too much time on his hands!!
@dac5184 жыл бұрын
Your goverment treats you like children, your goverment is just people who are full of themselves. Congratulations on being part of the biggest abusive relationship
@VictorYepello4 жыл бұрын
@@dac518 we protect our water. Please sit down now.
@dac5184 жыл бұрын
@@VictorYepello Florida has better water, and cocaine. So
@dac5184 жыл бұрын
@@VictorYepello imagine thinking other states dont protect their water sources?
@tazmtbr40203 жыл бұрын
Oz man, Thank you so much for the chain cleaning method! F#%^K all the negative comments. They DON'T get it. Keep on doing what you do! I really appreciate it.
@ianbrown_4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant vid
@EditioCastigata4 жыл бұрын
Nitril or vinyl gloves btw. Don't use latex.
@ntfntd04 жыл бұрын
Why is that?
@EditioCastigata4 жыл бұрын
@@ntfntd0 Latex is not as resistant as the other two, for example to oil. A layman wouldn't know.
@Dralbastaki2 жыл бұрын
@@EditioCastigata my hands where full of petrol when I used latex the first time xD
@BphmdDrDora4 жыл бұрын
Methylated spirits also known as denatured alcohol.
@Quimerateck3 жыл бұрын
Is it the same as Isopropyl alcohol?
@sar29083 жыл бұрын
@@Quimerateck No, it’s not the same as IPA. Methylated sprits is also a lot cheaper to buy.
@DYNABIKE14 жыл бұрын
I'm out of breath with ALL this info - - puff puff - - I'm still with ya