my god, the effort that got into this video is amazing. also the guy is open sourcing everything and is not trying to promote his "special top secret" product. the only thing that might happen in the future is a company might get his recipe and start selling it, but again if it lower the price and make it easier on the consumer its a good thing.
@steezystonks2 жыл бұрын
I love this dude! He really puts in the work and doesn't cut corners. Knowledge with confidence!!
@Agbaman14 жыл бұрын
If I treated my job this meticulously, I'd surely have a successful life. Talk about attention to detail 👏👏👏👏
@tesmith474 жыл бұрын
Maybe so
@itsm3th3b334 жыл бұрын
The black residue on the MSW jar is the additives. From MSW's website : "He added a little PTFE (the non-stick coating on your frying pan) and molybdenum disulfide / MoS₂ (dry lube that’s hard to pronounce) to paraffin and published the info for everyone to see".
@cliffordcs97874 жыл бұрын
One word, awesome! I felt your dedication, attention to details as well as your passion. Keep it up. 💪🏼
@mittbhogaita52354 жыл бұрын
All I can say is your dedication to every video you make is absolutely commendable.... thank you so much for taking the time in making this content for our benefit. 🙌🏽
@GMoneyLove4 жыл бұрын
Love this. I can't wait to hear all about the new formula... I've got all the tools, and some of the supplies (I thought) ready and two chains itching to run smoother. Thanks for all the great content!
@eof_lemongrab4 жыл бұрын
I've adopted your methods two years ago and have never looked back! Love how clean the drive train on both my bikes remains, not to mention my shower and hands (I live in a flat). Excited to hear you have iterated on the formula, can't wait!
@JamesSocialCycling4 жыл бұрын
Mind Blown🤯 Well done for the amount of detail and patience that has gone in to this video. Thank You👍🏻😎
@tcmcdcac4 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from you. I have been using your old recipe with great success. Looking forward to the new method. Thanks for the many brilliant ideas over the last few years!
@zinita77154 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the big amount of work and time you put into this and share it with us. I really thank you.
@user-xs3og2gs4i4 жыл бұрын
omg how much work has been done! thank you very much for your efforts!
@MegaMoriarti4 жыл бұрын
Impressive, that Ozzie form sharing your formula, and the long test in a normal conditions. Thanks for detailed measurement. Great thumbs up. Thanks
@sorbet42 жыл бұрын
I have been using MSW for over a year. >4,000 miles ( 6,437Km) with very little stretch , and for you guys saying you don't want to spend the time, It literally takes less than 25 min to remove, clean and rewax the chain. I must say, I think something is wrong if you got rust on the chain with the MSW. Love your videos, have taught me a lot.
@losFondos3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for all the effort you put in this series about chain waxing! I've just ordered some PTFE and will give it a try. I'm fed up with chain cleaning after a long ride
@Mylity663 жыл бұрын
So much effort on this video, every single question that can be answered was answered to the absolute. It takes real guts to put your own creation to the test like this as well. It's truly amazing how such small numbers can add up to such long ride distance on the same chain, I'm usually the very skeptical sort so the fact that you shut up my every question with an answer just did it for me. I'm convinced. I'll be getting a new drivetrain for my mountain bike pretty soon and I'll knock off all that factory lubricant right off, I know that because of the conditions a MTB chain faces the cleaning frequency will probably double, but if i can make a chain last twice as much all the effort will be worthwhile. Thank you very much. I'll make sure to spread this around my biking group as well.
@luisaureliomoraesbruno871 Жыл бұрын
This video is a true academic work, worthy of being included in the annals of a university. Congratulations. I'm really impressed and, of course, I'm already buying the ingredients to clean the chains and then wax them according to your teaching. Thank you very much for providing us with such knowledge and congratulations on your dedication, goodwill and willingness to teach us.
@oftankoftan4 жыл бұрын
absolutely insane attention to detail. 90+ measurements on each chain? you're crazy my man. And you earned yourself a sub.
@matthewvelo4 жыл бұрын
That tool board makes me smile a lot. Great video as always.
@MrGermanele3 жыл бұрын
Passion, and dedication, your input is so valuable, specially for people who lives far away and have no easy access to most commercial formulas, well done and thanks so much from Argentina! I'll spread your words...
@chrisstamp12 жыл бұрын
Absolutely bloody amazing!!! Thank you so much for doing this video, it’s totally blown my mind!!!
@darrengarvie88324 жыл бұрын
No wonder you have been so quiet lately you have been a busy man. Love the video. Keep up the testing.
@ticklefritz54064 жыл бұрын
Awesome video OZ. Really appreciate your ridiculous efforts to find the facts
@fernandogazzola71014 жыл бұрын
I've been using paraffin wax and oil mix for five years now, very happy with the results. Looking forward for the next video of the new formula!
@danwerkman4 жыл бұрын
I Took your old recipe and cut it with MS CV joint grease. The grease is really just a carrier for the Molybdenum Disulphide. This made the wax a little darker but essentially the same. I had to let it stew for a while to get it to blend well.( 1 Hour) Even if all the wax drops off I know that I have M D particles clinging to the metal parts... This has worked out very well for me thus far. Not the best lube in heavy rain and mud but I just take that into account when riding. By far the cleanest and easiest , most cost effective chain lube I have used thus far... no black marks on my leg etc.. Thank you for all you do. Keep the great vids coming
@averyjamesbrooks3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these incredible in-depth videos. I'm now totally convinced to try your homebrew chain wax method!
@comic-sniper4 жыл бұрын
Been using you wax technique for over a year now and will never go back to oil lube. I have riding buddies that have switched and never looked back. I look forward to the new recipe. Thanks for all your effort.
@randellhayes66864 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the new formula, I have just started to use the old formula and it is great. A lot less noise the chain stays clean. Also made a batch for my son. Keep up the great videos.
@casualguy3934 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the new formula. How far do you ride before a full clean and re-apply with the old formula?
@DaveKahn4 жыл бұрын
What he said.
@889977992 жыл бұрын
If you haven’t heard or tried it yet… Use Nano-oil… kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qOCGrJeg3dW4dXU.html
@jvisscher4 жыл бұрын
"This is why we needed a slow cooker!?!" I can already hear my wife laughing..
@fotofillholland4 жыл бұрын
They laughed when I told them I cleaned the bike in the bath too
@audio4apes4 жыл бұрын
@@fotofillholland they are not laughing any more! i guess?
@dunkanlord4 жыл бұрын
@@fotofillholland have been there have done that :D
@ahmadbudiman804 жыл бұрын
@@fotofillholland same here
@levente4424 Жыл бұрын
just heat it up in a metal mug or something old. worked perfectly for me
@brianschiff354 жыл бұрын
I have been using the old formula wax and have had grate success. I was on a tour ride last week and a lot of people were telling me how nice my chain looked. When I told them it was waxed they were dumbfounded, but when I grabbed my chain and showed them my clean hand they were sold. Looking forward to the new formula. Thanks!
@CykelSierra4 жыл бұрын
You Sir, are a Saint. So much work and dedication and you'll give to us for free. Amazing. Athletes and average Joes around the globe will thank you.
@jozefsk74564 жыл бұрын
16:58 this vertical comparison needs to be done again but without the wax on them, cause you can see the links not being straight caused by wax resistance, so the wax chains may appear shorter because they are going from side to side, effectivity following a longer path. That said, what amazing work you have done, I feel the need to thank you by sending a few euros your way. Whats your paypal.
@meibing49122 жыл бұрын
At least the #2 top link for the home made solution is not straight making it just a little shorter. However, probably not decisive as it just confirms the individual link measurements - so more a visual illustration. You have the link-by-link numbers - use them instead.
@santiagobenites4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! You have made one of the most interesting bicycle tech videos that I've seen in a while now, and I've seen a lot of them! We used to paraffin wax our chains way back in 1984, but it really didn't last too long. I'm eagerly awaiting your homemade recipe, and I will be trying it out in the spring. Cheers from Toronto!
@onedrop42504 жыл бұрын
Number one man as always. By far the best and the most practical bicycle channel 👍👍👍
@larisonjohnson4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Looking forward to the new formula. Keep up the great work.
@steveevans4244 жыл бұрын
Canyon should sponsor / pay You because You are a fantastic cycling ambassador ....cheers from Oregon USA
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
I wish Steve 🤣
@Agbaman14 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@mikieson4 жыл бұрын
im not picky about my chain.i clean it sometimes lol..so this video isnt really for someone like me.HOWEVER..its a very detailed video with TONS of time and effort put into it..Thanks Oz
@ponuryhutnik4 жыл бұрын
Jawdropping test. I'm so impressed how thoroughly you've done this. Well, I'm a cheap guy, and retro fan, I use old bikes and mostly used parts to ride, usually just commuting, I only use petrol and Rohloff or Connex lubricant. But I slowly build two proper bikes from new parts and I will earnestly consider to prepare the chain with your methods. More work in a garage, but so much money saved in a long run even if it's Sora not Dura Ace. Ah man, I forgot about my retro road bike, it's a life saver for it.
@phatshah73773 жыл бұрын
Wow. The effort that went into this. Definitely earned a sub
@YoureSoVane4 жыл бұрын
Molten speed wax is also dark in color, so that could be a factor
@KyrosHouse4 жыл бұрын
Hey there great video! I’m pretty sure the grey stuff in the bottom of the jar is the Molybdenum Disulfide (MoS2) powder that is used in the wax. 👍
@hoggif4 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly. Color of the wax when new made me think of MoS2 immediately.
@Francois_Dupont4 жыл бұрын
where can you buy this?
@hoggif4 жыл бұрын
@@Francois_Dupont MoS2 powder can be bought from eBay for example (like almost anything). I have some and have been thinking of adding it to my home-made wax. Similar channels sell also fine teflon powder which is another thing I'll probably try some day.
@mynewcolour3 жыл бұрын
Far more likely to me worn metal held by the wax. If the chain has been used for 3000km between waxing that’s far more than MSW recommend isn’t it?
@savasolarov84243 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation ever. He bough me with the homemade recipe. I go through chains a lot and its time things changes by applying this guy's methods.
@thinkhv79404 жыл бұрын
Sir, I love your video because you are not only a myth buster even you are telling several different ways to protect gears by own or cheaply, thanks
@Balorng4 жыл бұрын
While you have great attention to detail and I trust your findings because I've been waxing (also using my own concoction) chains for a few years already, and have similar results, your test has a great flaw that negates all the 'scientific credibility' of the work you have done: it was not done in a controlled environment. Obviously, it is also a blessing... BUT it is entirely possible that only *one* extra-long, extra muddy ride on MSW when wax was stripped off by waterbourne grit and chain began running on grit instead of lubrication accounts for *all* the difference in chain wear, and it is not entirely clear if you new mixture would behave differently if conditions were exactly similar - exactly BECAUSE contamination is so important! I suggest a small change of protocol that will make it truly 'bombproof' - split one chain into two uneven halves (say, 50 links and 52 links), wax one with MSW, an other with your new concoction, note which is which, connect it using two quick links, install and ride. This way you'll have a chain with dissimilar lubrications that shares *exact* real riding conditions.
@hokkypro4 жыл бұрын
I liked the 50/50 wax on same chain, but won't they get mixed abit on the gears?
@Balorng4 жыл бұрын
@@hokkypro a bit on the surface maybe, but not inside the friction pairs where it matters - both are waxes, after all.
@imanayAieR4 жыл бұрын
it does behave a little differently. i mix my was according to my city's weather. if its hot season, less oil, so it harden more, when u cycle, it actually melts back. if its cold season, i would add more oil, so its softer, easier to melt and sip in rollers during ride (i call it wax recovery) else if its too hard, cold day harder them too much and it chips off the moment u start riding. so its not exactly 50/50. u still need to do the "run under tap water" test on the same weather season, if its too soft, u get higher mileage out of it if its too hard, u get lower mileage out of it so hunt your balance. Cheers
@Biffo12624 жыл бұрын
I have to agree the environment of the test 'may' be flawed but if both cyclists rode together on the same roads in the same conditions only, to the exclusion of all other rides, then that would be enough for me. Even so, over the distances covered, I really don't think it's going to make much difference at all.
@Balorng4 жыл бұрын
@@Biffo1262 I agree, but did they? Again, I've actually experienced myself a large spike in wear rate once wax completely sheds off and chain begins "running dry" - this is not a theoretical musing on my part. I was not joking that entire wear difference can be accounted by one ride - I've had that happen.
@drigobarreto4 жыл бұрын
The dark "powder" is actually metal worn out and grit. Use a strong magnet inside a plastic bag to pull it out and dry to inspect.
@Xalta_Sailor4 жыл бұрын
I was going to say metal also; but to confirm use a magnet on the bottom of the glass jar. If it is metal the difference is incredible.
@jimebutler72714 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that information and well done informal lab testing! Looking forward to the “new” wax formula.
@urbanjungle96004 жыл бұрын
Wow! Fantastic video. So detailed, really appreciate your hard work doing this.
@AdamJStoryDC4 жыл бұрын
Your videos convinced me to try wax, but I chickened out and use Squirt. Wow. What a difference compared to oil! I would imagine your method/formula would be even better than Squirt, but I'm not sure if I want to spend the time weekly cooking my chain. It's just so easy to wipe and wax with Squirt. This video might convince me to try.
@meplusbike45194 жыл бұрын
Some time back I watched the videos of cleaning and waxing and thought what a pullavah. SO I went with squirt too. A great product. I recently completed a 1350 mile tour and only had squirt with me. One bike cleaning after about 1000 miles. My girlfriend just got a new bike and I know she's to going to take care of the drive chain so I treated both bikes to a full gasoline, degrease and wax job. After one ride on a dusty gritty Katy Trail in Missouri Im convinced. The chains were so clean and even after washing bikes with chains on they were very smooth. If you're doing so many miles as to require a weekly change, run two chains so one is always ready
@patrickparisienne19173 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a weekly thing, I do ie every 300-400km, depending on riding conditions...
@MsBahamai3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickparisienne1917 how many km you get with boiled waxed chain?, when you need to do cleaning with spirits and boiling again? if i do 350km in a week i will need to deepclean and boil weekly?
@patrickparisienne19173 жыл бұрын
@@MsBahamai I get 350-400km between re waxing. Once initially cleaned, any re waxing, chain just requires a degreasing on the bike, and once removed, I pour boiling water on it. Then I re wax. I wipe the chain after every ride, and if required after a very wet or dirty ride, I apply a wax/ white spirit emulsion ( which is what Squirt lube is) if I feel it needs it.
@marcalvarez48902 жыл бұрын
Try Smoove! Even better.
@GerryWilton764 жыл бұрын
The chain measuring at 17:32 should have been under pressure since the chains were not hanging straight, great video btw!
@benjleath94063 жыл бұрын
Yeah those nails looked wonky as....
@ygtcbee234 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the test results! I'm waiting all week to learn the new formula for my new bike build. I guess I'll buy MSW for now and use your formula when the next video airs. Hopefully soon
@thebigmora4 жыл бұрын
As usual, a great work made by OZ
@kamylko4 жыл бұрын
16:55 The chain in the middle. Connection between first and second link is slightly curved. I am sure this is not intentional, but I think the differences are not as big as presented. Anyway, I love your videos!!! Thank you :)
@MrPoopnoddy4 жыл бұрын
All the chains should have had an arbitrary weight (2kg?) hanging from them.
@GerryWilton764 жыл бұрын
@@MrPoopnoddy Yes except for the fact the the home made chain isn't de-waxed, you can see that the links are still a little stiff, thus making it appear shorter in the measurement. Still not doubting the product, just the measurement procedure was slightly flawed.
@DaveKahn4 жыл бұрын
If you'd cleaned the new chain, maybe you would have been able to get the measuring tool in. Might also have been a good idea to take baseline measurements of the test chains immediately after their initial cleaning. (Your time is infinite obviously. :-))
@ralfhenning-venske67644 жыл бұрын
Can not wait for the new receipt. I already followed your wax advise on two bikes for approx. 6,000km so far. Refreshed the wax after ca. 300km to 400km every week. Result is as you expected. Different strategy to optimise the process is underway e g. removing the chain at 53° out of the wax-bath. This video confirms the long lasting strategy to safe costs with an environmentally friendly hack. As said, the Wippermann Connex so called Bikini-Hack (Chain Link) is awesome. I assume not too many bikers can imagine that this really works - but it does. AGAIN THANK YOU, YOU HELPED ME TO ENJOY RIDING NY BIKES.
@aleksanderpusz8924 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Can't wait to test new formula!
@Hawlkeye-e9p4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. Thank you for uploading. Always a pleasure. Do you sell this product?
@EditioCastigata4 жыл бұрын
You're using four different chemicals (including water) to clean. I recommend you buy two, which are very cheap: n-Heptane (used in graffiti and sticker removal; “cheap” heptane with small amounts of other alcohols) and 90%+ isopropyl (used to clean sensors; draws water, keep well closed!). No need for a water rinse after those. 50l hobbock ea costs 24€ or less. (You don't need it lab-grade.)
@thomask8373 жыл бұрын
You just saved me over $2000... I was going to buy a Rolhoff with a belt but I don't think I will need one now!!! Thank you x1000000
@MrJagbolet4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting study you made, very thorough ! Thank you a lot !!!
@theloudbloke4 жыл бұрын
MSW contains Molybdenum Disulfide that's some of what your seeing in the cleaning solvents.
@derekblankmccoy4 жыл бұрын
A magnet would easily find if thats true or not.
@mariosergiodemarchi32384 жыл бұрын
@@derekblankmccoy A magnet will not attract MOS2 (Molybdenum Disulphide). It will attract Chrome Molienium though but they are not the same thing. ChroMo is a metal and MOS2 is a powder lubricant.
@derekblankmccoy4 жыл бұрын
@@mariosergiodemarchi3238 that's my point. If it does attract, its metal dust from chain wear.
@earthstick4 жыл бұрын
When the home-made wax was removed the solvent was a lighter colour with less sediment at the bottom than the MSW. The chain stretch measurements for the home-made was about the same as with the wax removed. It could be that more of the home-made wax came off the chain during use. That's why the solvent was less discoloured and the measurements were the same before and after cleaning. If the MSW stays on the chain for longer, any dirt it picks up will wear the chain more. Just a thought.
@nickireed7963 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! Thank you!
@Desertduleler_884 жыл бұрын
Great video btw, really informative I like where you went to the trouble to extensively measure the chain with that digital chain tool and plotted the results of the long term test. I've just recently found your channel a few months and ago and was sold to convert to wax and paraffin oil on my MTB and road bike, I can't wait for the new formula cheers.
@brillowolf4 жыл бұрын
How about some form of friction or resistance based test to see if there are any wattage advantage for one over the other.
@MrTripsJ4 жыл бұрын
Doesnt ceramic speed to the exact same thing and charge an arm and a leg?
@kendalltrembearth90564 жыл бұрын
Have been using the original chain lube recipe for a few years now and been well chuffed with it. Looking forward to the new cleaning method and chain wax video’s, but will have to wait till I’ve used up the existing ingredients I have. Love your video’s.
@Chloepet4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for going to all that trouble and sharing the results, it's very interesting!
@DunderOz4 жыл бұрын
Place a magnet under the jar, and you will learn what the sediment is 👍 Another great video ☺ You no longer cool the chain in water straight out of the wax bath!?
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
No not necessary to cool the new wax in water Patrick
@frednew6874 жыл бұрын
You could at least see if there was iron in the sediment.
@MM-ws9pu4 жыл бұрын
We all shout "We need video with new formula! Now!"☺
@markifi4 жыл бұрын
December. Better right than early.
@gocarlisle2 жыл бұрын
Best chain-info video ever!
@janwillemkuilenburg75614 жыл бұрын
Big Compliments for this comparison! I wax my chains according to your recepy and it works very well,
@TC-hl1ws4 жыл бұрын
Ewwwwww a new formula. Can't wait to try the new recipe. My guess is some type of Teflon additive.
@adamkerin41304 жыл бұрын
Hi there, cool video and test, but as a product tester for chains and lubes there a few important points that all need to be aware. First - real world testing unfortunately gives extremely ball park results. Having previously real world tested the same lube and same chain in my normal training, i attained anywhere from 4,000km to 6,500km. There are just far too many variables - what load is applied when, what contamination is the chain exposed to too and when, and how long from x contamination exposure to next re-lube / re wax. Certainly for lubricants that are performing at various ends of the spectrum - one will always come up trumps by a notable amount, ie a top lube vs a poor lube - it will be night and day. But for lubricants that may perform in a similar ballpark, real world testing simply provides far too big a ball park to obtain a definitive result, there are simply far far too many uncontrolled variables. If a manufacturer released such a test as proof of its superior performance over competitors, the test would be quickly shot down on many (correct) fronts. Machine controlled testing where same load is run through all test chains, with same amount and type of contamination added and at the same distance, with re lube / re wax also performed at the same intervals etc - this level of control is simply a must. It is also telling that msw chain had some rust on it. Having tested msw rather extensively, and with lots of wet contamination - a chain has never rusted. The testing protocol and Zero Friction Cycling ensures it remains within manufacturer guidelines. If a lubricant is tested outside of manufacturer guidelines, then that is akin to taking a ferarri to a 4wd track and calling it a crap car - one does not get data of any value. MSW is made of lab grade / medical grade paraffin which is refined to contain almost zero mineral oil, as such it does not leave any film or coating on outside of chain. The home blend likely contains some level of mineral oil which softens the feel and also would be more protective for longer periods between re waxes especially if water has been involved. In short - the the msw chain is showing rust spots, the msw chain has been run beyond its recommended treatment lifespan or left for too long a period post wet ride. Following manufacturer instructions one should never experience rusting or oxidation. It would be great for this home blend to be sent to Zero Friction Cycling so that it can be assessed under the same controlled test protocol for proper comparison. Even taking the above into account, it seems likely that the home blend is a very high performing and clean lubricant, and not knowing at the moment (havent seen the how to make video) exactly what it is made of, it may be a very environmentally friendly lubricant. Especially for training, commuting etc, that level of cleanliness, greater wet weather protection, low wear etc - it is something well worthy of a more exacting test. Pls PM Adam at ZFC to discuss having a batch of home blend tested. The real world chain and drive train longevity and ultra low friction has been extensively proven by multiple test bodies in conjunction with huge amounts of real world customer data, it would be great to see this in a proper controlled test - it is highly possible it will be a great choice for many who do not need ultimate speed etc.
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
Will be sending you a batch for testing soon Adam,thankyou.
@nadsim1542 жыл бұрын
Don't you think that Zero friction cycling already tested this combinaison ? I guess he just didin't publish the result that would put all the others wax lubes that are 10 times the price, irrelevant. Nobody can make money off this formula and money is still the name of the game in his business...
@stevenleffanue2 жыл бұрын
I offered to send him a couple of blocks to test. It's also easy to make. Nothing happened. Now there are quite a number of people making and selling this wax worldwide. So yes , money seems to be the game.
@nadsim1542 жыл бұрын
@@stevenleffanue That's what i thought yes... I think he tested it but had no point on publishing the results if it was as good as the best ones. Just too cheap and too accessible i would guess.
@adamkerin41302 жыл бұрын
@@nadsim154 no, not tested, and no point, refer diy wax section in FAQ guide for details why. Oz didn't organise to send any when had a chance for test, now testing is far too busy to test a diy wax (again see FAQ guide re why). Dont jump on commercial conspiracy crap. Everyone seems hellbent to make basically anything some grand conspiracy these days. If only you say how many crap diy waxes out therex where person has bought x wax for x dollars + delivery, then y ptfe from y place + delivery and then sometimes another additive like tungsten disulphide + delivery, all up they have paid as much or more vs a bag of msw, but have a crap gunky wax because base wax is crap, and it's a palava to get such a wax chain properly clean to start over. Yes many can if they get a good base wax make a wax that is perfectly good, and that beats most lubricants on lbs shelves. Sadly this is not what many diy waxrrs make, nor can they match the wax base of the top waxes, so the total cost to run is almost never lower for a diy wax vs a proven top wax that has a huge amount of genuine R&D and testing behind it. Read the documentnin zfc website call the Oz cycle video where I outline the errors in the seemingly thorough testing. Zfc is independent. The world is a big place. Diy waxing is very very niche. And yet it causes no end of time sucking problems. I would have lost literally hundred of hours of time just answering emails requesting help from around the world from their diy waxing gone wrong. There is no commercial conspiracy. One can spend 50 bucks on a bag of proven super low wear product that will last 10,000km, or one can risk diy. Just if they go diy and it's crap - and so many people end up with that result, well on balance it just seems to do more harm than good vs genuinely awesome products. One should be asking why Oz cycle test for msw was so obviously flawed so as to, in my opinion, deliberately attain a poor result for a great product. Also immersive waxing is only a fraction of zfc business focus, my goodness there is so much more to zfc life than msw or diy waxing. Take the time to investigate zfc perspective with FAQ guide diy wax section and Oz cycle vid document and see then where you think any questionable motives lie.
@zrsgamboa4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Love the video. Very meticulous/precise.
@Cycligertcycylerepair4 жыл бұрын
I have a new Specialized Tarmac comp 2020 arriving in the next couple of weeks. I'm definitely going to have to switch to your new chain wax recipe to keep it in tip top condition. I get more drawn into your channel with every watch. Keep up the good work man! Excited for the release of the new recipe!
@XxXnonameAsDXxX4 жыл бұрын
When is the new formula coming out? Sound pretty epic!
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
Hoping December
@sandyfournier83924 жыл бұрын
@@stevenleffanue Yeah. Our chrismtas gift ! I hope you'll wear Santa's suit ?
@TheCrossroads094 жыл бұрын
GURU! With all the ripoffs in the bicycle industry a meticulous video like this could save serious cyclists big money over a period of time. Thank you and looking forward to the new recipe....does it include Teflon??
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
No info until December.
@TheCrossroads094 жыл бұрын
@@stevenleffanue I have a summer and winter blend of wax and oil I put in used large coffee tins and give them away to friends and family. ...so many are depending on this new recipe! Lol
@mariosergiodemarchi32384 жыл бұрын
@@stevenleffanue Its already December here in Brazil!
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
It will be late December Mario
@roneysilveira76064 жыл бұрын
I am from Brasil and very happy with your very easy explanation, showing much better results of homemade wax chain. Thank you 🙏🏻
@karolwroblewski81254 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video ! I cant wait for the news vid with the formula i need to test it in winter seson :)
@KurtisPape4 жыл бұрын
Damn! This is very extensive, well done. I dont think you went into it in the video but how often did you re-wax these chains (did you say 250km)? and how often and aggressively / lightly was the bike cleaned? After 2000km my local bike shop said I needed to replace my Dura-ace chain :/ don't know if they just wanted more money because they asked me if they could replace, I said no and kept going on it for another 1000km then replaced. I got a KMC X11SL chain and it was actually longer out the box than my "Worn out" shimano chain. I had to keep checking but yea it was like 5mm longer out the box with the exact same links.
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
Yes rewax at appx 250km. Just a light clean of the drivetrain at every rewax. Treat yourself to a chain checker with .5mm marking. Replace chain when it reaches that point. A new chain is always shorter than a used one...check again.
@NewEnglandDirtRoadie4 жыл бұрын
is it just me, or does Oz Cycle look like he deserves to ride a Rtichey Road Logic with Campagnolo Chorus 11-speed? also, putting a magnet into those jars would tell you a little bit about what's left over
@Francois_Dupont4 жыл бұрын
not really, rust isnt magnetic. so only iron, nickel and cobalt in fairly pure form will be attracted.
@albr44 жыл бұрын
@@Francois_Dupont therefore if it was magnetic it could be the nickel coating which are put on many chains
@Francois_Dupont4 жыл бұрын
@@albr4 yes, maybe. i personally think it is micro sand and dirt from the road. he could look up with a microscope to see the structure and find what it is.
@albr44 жыл бұрын
@@Francois_Dupont I am pretty convinced that it's the molybdenum disulfide that MSW add to their wax, unless OZ used that in his as well.
@greg60944 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, love watching your videos!
@bikelad4 жыл бұрын
You are just awesome, Oz! Irrespective of your chain lube performance, huge respect for your detailed and scientific method and altruistic intent. People like you are the reason human race still has hope; 🙂
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
Flattery will get you everywhere :)
@Phil..._4 жыл бұрын
Hey mate. Would you recommend the homemade wax for mountain and gravel bikes too?
@andrewmaile38094 жыл бұрын
and me! how does do you think it would cope with wet and muddy (UK) conditions? Ta.
@andrewmaile38094 жыл бұрын
quoted from below: oz cycle 3 days ago Yes. I'm still doing the mileage on my MTB before doing vid on how it works great in dirt n wet as well. Upload prolly Janurary.
@fradd40454 жыл бұрын
more importantly did you measure the chains before the test?
@Trucker19574 жыл бұрын
It could very well be manufacturing differences.
@Biffo12624 жыл бұрын
That s a very good point but to be fair he does admit there are going to be varying manufacturing tolerances. All you can do is keep repeating the test over a number of new chains check for consistent results.
@patrickparisienne19173 жыл бұрын
Kwee Thiam Lo he did!
@jamesclaus41593 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he definitely needed to do this. Measure each chain new so you can see the actual elongation in that particular chain. Just assuming that they started out identical is a fundamental flaw. I *love* the dedication and sharing, but it's hard to draw strong conclusions.
@Peter-pu7bo4 жыл бұрын
Waiting 10 months to finish this video and give us a complete result... Thats not often seen here. Thank you a lot for all of your effort! Nice video, next I will watch how to make the wax ;)
@beefcramp4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Eager to see the new formula! Excellent content all around.
@idlewild1914 жыл бұрын
You should have used a magnet to see if it was metal fillings that was left over
@bikesqump4 жыл бұрын
idlewild191 road gold!
@aitorbleda82674 жыл бұрын
Note: you should sell this lube.
@david1310924 жыл бұрын
I love your thoroughness or should I say obsessiveness!
@djblanton4 жыл бұрын
Love this video. Really enjoy your channel. Keep the data flowing. :-)
@barefeg4 жыл бұрын
Should've measured the chains when new. The results are not valid since they might have different distances from the start
@meibing49122 жыл бұрын
What an amazing effort! Thanks.
3 жыл бұрын
Oz you are the master 2021 and this Charts open the Eyes to a lote of people
@gustavomotta59713 жыл бұрын
Doctor Oz Cycle, thank you again. Regards from Brasil.
@mrwest61504 жыл бұрын
Great work! looking forward to your video with the new formula. Love the channel :)
@renehyrupolsen4 жыл бұрын
Love your work mate
@swites4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Thanks for spending all that time doing accurate measurements etc. My chains usually last me 3600km before I have to replace them. I thought that was pretty good. Little did I know!
@pmb00014 жыл бұрын
Great information - thank you for all your hard work and sharing the results