The Ultimate DJ-headphone Battle: 3x Pioneer vs Sennheiser & Audio Technica

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DJ School Amsterdam

DJ School Amsterdam

4 жыл бұрын

The ultimate DJ-headphone battle. 3 Pioneers (HDJ X5, X7 and X10) compared with the famous Sennheiser HD-25. Also the very affordable Audio Technica is featured.
Choosing a good headphone is a very important part of your DJ gear. DJ School Amsterdam advises objectively and honest. Watch how these well known headphones hold against eachother!
To be able to test each of these, stop by at DJ School Amsterdam, worldwide leader in DJ and individual producer education.
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@Alexander5R
@Alexander5R 4 жыл бұрын
I have the M50x, I like it, it's very bassy, but the other frequencies are good. I have heard the HD25, sounds better than the M50x, but not by much. The build quality of the M50x seems better to me. The fit of the M50x is more comfortable and secure to me. Also, all those headphones have removable cables.
@davidmeza3157
@davidmeza3157 4 жыл бұрын
In summary, "8 out of 10 for all"... bruh
@ShadowNeji
@ShadowNeji 4 жыл бұрын
in that 8 out of 10. He gave you a list form 5 to 1
@LoVeAmBiEnT
@LoVeAmBiEnT 3 жыл бұрын
Stop saying BRUH... that word literally lowers your IQ
@sabersz
@sabersz Жыл бұрын
@@LoVeAmBiEnT bruh
@DCVibeEntertainment
@DCVibeEntertainment 3 жыл бұрын
HD 25 all the way. i used pioneer ones. and my head started hurting from the heavyness of headphones plus super loud bass! not only listening music at home but also club when u have to crank it up;( HD 25 has best quality sound on the market. its lightweight super durable and ears never hurt listening music and clubs when u crank up that level on mixer))
@tomislavmalbasic6843
@tomislavmalbasic6843 3 ай бұрын
what pioneer did you used? how are the hd 25 for just listening to the music while traveling or at home, comparing with x5 or x7?
@djm_music
@djm_music Жыл бұрын
One of the best, unbiased, reviews about DJ headphones I've seen on KZfaq. I have HD 25, for the last 4 years, and these are fantastic headphones! Unfortunately they are brakable (as it happen to me by my mistake of course, otherwise they last a long time), but all parts are availalbe. Only recently I decided to get something that cover my ears as I only mix with headphones and comfort is something that matters after a long time behind the decks.
@tomislavmalbasic6843
@tomislavmalbasic6843 3 ай бұрын
what did you get ?
@djm955
@djm955 3 ай бұрын
@@tomislavmalbasic6843 Hi there. At the moment I mix on SONY MDR-7506, but at the time when I was posting the comment above, I was using Pioneer HDJ-X7. Well-made headphones, great for Dance music. Unfortunately, the deep low end started to annoy me and ditched them for Sennheiser. Otherwise, they were great, very comfy and superb sound quality.
@someoneelse6599
@someoneelse6599 4 жыл бұрын
Great review and honesty 👊🏽
@zsolteditor
@zsolteditor Жыл бұрын
M50x all the way for video/sound editing.They never brake, sound the same after 11 years, hard to beat :)
@Acapellex7118
@Acapellex7118 9 ай бұрын
Great review! My headphones HDJ-X7 made it to the 2nd place, according to your honest and awesome review!👍
@kaptajnsejersen6303
@kaptajnsejersen6303 3 жыл бұрын
i give this video 8 out of 10
@SuperFluidFerroFluid
@SuperFluidFerroFluid 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent intro! It's more about ear protection and sound quality,. and finally some personal critique on the ATH50, with their legendary soundstage i believe you have already damaged your ears my friend if you experience the bass being "muddy" because its really crystal clear with very well balanced mids and highs. Compare the frequency responses and look at the numbers, they dont lie. Or perhaps you should invest in better quality file format for your tracks ;)
@substance90
@substance90 3 жыл бұрын
The HD-25 is extremely uncomfortable for me. Out of this list I found the ATH-50x best for DJing. For music production nothing on this list works well.
@DjAbhishekBhatiya
@DjAbhishekBhatiya 4 жыл бұрын
Different styles and type of Mixing video plz
@marcusharmon8389
@marcusharmon8389 2 жыл бұрын
I've got the hd25 aluminium ones and they are bomb proof mine still look brand new like bought yesterday ...
@Daywalker_Hun
@Daywalker_Hun 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, rating headphones or even speakers on how they sound is very subjective. Just like saying that house is shit, or trance, or happy hardcore. It all comes down to personal preference. I wish I had the option to listen to all with my kind of music before I buy them.
@drgroove7508
@drgroove7508 3 жыл бұрын
HD25 all the way !!! I have 3 pairs. 1 pair of the plastic ones which are my back up pair and also the first pair I bought 8 years ago, 1 pair of the HD25 aluminium for home use and a pair of Amperiors that I have modified by changing the drivers to 70 ohm drivers and steel cable from a set of regular HD 25s I’ve also removed some but not all of the sound deadening material from inside the ear cups to open them up internally and fitted a set of Yaxi type B ear pads these are the pair that I use for gigs and my favourite for comfort & sound. Ive flog them every weekend for years now and they never let me down.
@marcusharmon8389
@marcusharmon8389 2 жыл бұрын
Same as I've never looked back bought pioneer hdj1000s and they broke within 2 weeks 8 years on with hd25 and still truckin like an old massey Ferguson tractor lol
@GazLan
@GazLan 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for a new pair to replace my A&H XD53's. Sound and build wise they are as good as the day I bought them. The only minor issue is cosmetic as the faux leather headband has started peeling, apart from that they are flawless. But although I have small ears they do not fit inside fully with ease, not good considering they were advertised as circumaural, and then when on the inner speaker adds pressure to the ear causing discomfort even after an hour or so, as the depth of the cup is shallow. Without being able to physically try on a pair, can anyone recommend decent over the ear (circumaural) cans that are comfortable and won't break the bank? I can get a pair of the Pioneer HDJ X5 for £69 new and delivered, worth a punt?
@ucss25
@ucss25 2 жыл бұрын
i have sennheiser HA-25 adidas version. And its amazing.
@norakat
@norakat 2 жыл бұрын
How about the Sennheiser HD series? like HD 280 Pro and Technics headphones?
@danielstoicamusic
@danielstoicamusic Жыл бұрын
Any chance for a similar comparison between affordable dj monitors?
@mikedubz5576
@mikedubz5576 3 жыл бұрын
Could you review the denon HP1100 i used the older model for 12 years and it rocked in comparisson to the others.
@blaze376192
@blaze376192 Жыл бұрын
Damn, this is the first person I've seen bash the m50s like that
@djhavickofficial
@djhavickofficial Жыл бұрын
As A Owner Of The Pioneer Dj HDJ-X7 -k Series being Its The Successor To The Classic Pioneer Dj HDJ 2000Mk2 With New Developed 50mm Drivers They're truly Great for the price & Honestly These Headphones Really Do Benefit Form A Break In Period Save Your Self The Money get the X-7's & upgrade more vital Dj Gear Like Your Speakers Or Turntables/ Dj Controller Or new Laptop is a better investment . Remember Have Fun & Enjoy :)
@huwwackman_excel
@huwwackman_excel 2 жыл бұрын
Audio Technica are excellent, also have removable cables.
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Also far more comfy than the HD25.
@Genital.Wartzenegger
@Genital.Wartzenegger 2 жыл бұрын
Never understood the hd25 hype, I have them and they're good for very small venues (bars, house parties) but at an actual club there's no sound isolation or bass. The high end pioneer and aiaiai's are the best i've ever used.
@bobbylord9948
@bobbylord9948 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, plus I’ve had 2 pairs of hd’s break in 2 years! Do not get the hype
@bobbywilson7101
@bobbywilson7101 8 ай бұрын
Unsure how I would be able to break a pair of HD25's... Had mine since 1998 and they've not broken... They've been rammed into record bags, stepped on and kicked round the floor over the years, I've broken cables and worn out pads but that's normal
@bertdoorn3803
@bertdoorn3803 4 жыл бұрын
is the Sennheiser HD 280 Pro a good headphone for DJing, my dad bought it for me for music production but is this also great for DJing
@tomislavmalbasic6843
@tomislavmalbasic6843 3 ай бұрын
from reviews i have seen i would say they are good for dj-ing too. but i returned them because i just didnt like them esthetically and also, they were not comfortable. people say they stretch and become more comfy with time, but i just returned them and now looking for something else for dj-ing - pioneer x5 or x7 or senn hd 25
@dricem4054
@dricem4054 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your video !!!
@robinpereiradelgado4766
@robinpereiradelgado4766 Жыл бұрын
i smell dutch! thanks voor de video mannen ben voor de sennheiser gegaan!
@DBLCreations
@DBLCreations Жыл бұрын
I have both the HDJ- X7 & x10 and i can confirm they BOTH have a detachable cable! So i'm not sure why you said there were only 2 headphones who have detachable cables?
@ecstasy5317
@ecstasy5317 4 жыл бұрын
DJ School Amsterdam, Sennheiser has a few other dj headphones that may be suitable for most disc jockeys such as the HD 8 DJ model. Also keep an eye out for AIAIAI Modular versions and Ultrasone's models.👍
@DJSchoolAmsterdam
@DJSchoolAmsterdam 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for adding that info! We will look into those!
@ecstasy5317
@ecstasy5317 4 жыл бұрын
@@DJSchoolAmsterdam You got it guy, also I forgot to mention that pioneer has bluetooth equivalents to some of the newer dj models you reviewed, you can still use a cord but the possibilities of wireless can be a blessing for some music enthusiast and disc jockeys alike.
@yosotattoo
@yosotattoo 8 ай бұрын
A lot of friends into Sound have the M50X, I tried them! It does sound good! A little heavy for my liking, although the build quality seems fine! I have heard the ears can get hot after a while! Second pair of HD 25 in 15 years! Love them! Much Lighter! It sounds better to me (Maybe I am just used to them), I also really like the fact that they are stealthy! Especially when you like going everywhere with them! They are made of plastic but they are pretty durable if you handle them with care! It is true that sometimes they can feel a little tight on the ears after a while! It's good to take a break anyway! ;) So, HD 25 all the way for me! IT's a sound thing really for me! Enjoy the Journey!
@liquiddnb1305
@liquiddnb1305 5 ай бұрын
Love my hd25s, one of the best products ive ever bought.
@simonvanuden3825
@simonvanuden3825 4 жыл бұрын
Jammer dat er niet 1 of 2 setjes in ears worden meegenomen in de test.
@RobHTech
@RobHTech Жыл бұрын
Anybody know if the Pioneer's fit completely over the ears? And, are they too tight / cause fatigue d/t too tight? And any opinions about the Pioneer HDJ-X 7 or 10 versus say Beyerdynamic DT 700/770/990 ?
@djhavickofficial
@djhavickofficial Жыл бұрын
they're Over Ear Snug Tight Fit for Djing HeadBanging ect. As A Owner Of The Pioneer Dj HDJ-X7 -k Series being Its The Successor To The Classic Pioneer Dj HDJ 2000Mk2 With New Developed 50mm Drivers They're truly Great for the price & Honestly These Headphones Really Do Benefit Form A Break In Period Save Your Self The Money get the X-7's & upgrade more vital Dj Gear Like Your Speakers Or Turntables/ Dj Controller Or new Laptop is a better investment . Remember Have Fun & Enjoy :) but the Beyerdynamic Dt 700 pro x with the mini xlr jack is a great contender For About The Same Price
@Dan_Hazard
@Dan_Hazard 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the Shure Srh750's? I'd like to hear your thoughts on those
@RenniefosterRF
@RenniefosterRF 3 жыл бұрын
I have owned these headphones and I loved them so much they went from backup to my main gig phones for a long time until I broke them (my fault as always). I can't recommend these high enough, even nowadays.. I should get another set. Great color also.
@bubbleworld4172
@bubbleworld4172 3 жыл бұрын
Had those. Loved the sound but the build quality is not very high. They didn't last very long unfortunately.
@mkivst180
@mkivst180 4 жыл бұрын
I have got this hdjx10 headphones. When you say it is quite bassy, I do find it very hard to hear bass at all when you are at noisy environment. Am I doing something wrong here ?
@DJSchoolAmsterdam
@DJSchoolAmsterdam 4 жыл бұрын
MKIV ST Headphone bass will always fade in comparison to (loud) bass from speakers, try to mix on higher frequencies like hi haat so you are less depending on the bass
@moralrevulsionLive
@moralrevulsionLive 4 жыл бұрын
Is a known issue of xdj10 If you want a real dj headphone go phonon 4400 Is simple
@asad5067
@asad5067 4 жыл бұрын
@@DJSchoolAmsterdam hows the soundstage on these headphones? especially pioneer vs m50x? i completely agree with you on m50x plastic problems.
@cristianc.1940
@cristianc.1940 4 жыл бұрын
Im between the xdj x7 and hd25s, because i feel that the quality, the pads, the material of the x7 are better... but i prefer the sound of the hd25s because is more neutral... What do you think between this two models without take into account the price? PD: i buy first the audiotechnica and i have to give back because the same that you say... crispy mids and highs, very tiring...
@DJSchoolAmsterdam
@DJSchoolAmsterdam 4 жыл бұрын
Cristian C. The HD25, for the neutral sound and the unbreakable build quality!
@lextr3110
@lextr3110 4 жыл бұрын
hdj-c70 kill the hd25.. its not even close..
@electronaut9858
@electronaut9858 3 жыл бұрын
Hdj x7 is a little better .
@brunobredael
@brunobredael 3 жыл бұрын
HD 25 is nice , but what about this problem of coil connection...so disapointing
@rpals5412
@rpals5412 2 жыл бұрын
One type of headphone I never understood is the on-ear. I just don't get it, I find it so painful after very short time that my ear gets pushed flat against my skull.
@GastonMaqueda
@GastonMaqueda Жыл бұрын
I had the pioneers and the AT. Even when both sound good and are very comfy, have a serious quality issues In both models the plastic crack very quickly The AT last around two seasons (200 events) The Pioneer less than one season (80-90 events). I fixed with glue and duck tape and they go for another extra season, but now broken again and are irreparable. I just purchase the HD-25 and I will see.
@KYLOWW
@KYLOWW 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering would you have included the V-Moda series headphones?
@asad5067
@asad5067 4 жыл бұрын
avoid v-moda as they have build problems. i think akg k553 mkII is a great headphone for its price. id guess its more durable than ws1100is, m50x, and m100. hes absolutely right about m50x, and i am selling my ws1100is for same reason.
@kronossonork6994
@kronossonork6994 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Poor sound definition
@jasonw222
@jasonw222 Ай бұрын
they are not comfortable. and arent really made for DJing to be honest. More for home listening
@xaviergms2225
@xaviergms2225 2 жыл бұрын
Sennheiser hd 25, simply the best for me.
@curtisneil37
@curtisneil37 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, solid information helps me to make my decision 👏🏽, CJ Neil.
@eurodancedjsworld1362
@eurodancedjsworld1362 2 жыл бұрын
What a laugh! The pioneer HDJ-X10 it's way superior in any aspect to the crap HD-25m. I have got it for like 2 months and throwed the toy in the bin!
@jarokaar
@jarokaar 2 жыл бұрын
I have tested for couples of days pioneer xdj 7x, sennheiser hd25 and audiotechnica M50x and from all of them i picked M50x as by first choice mainly because they are the most comfortable and best sounding of these three. Pioneers have the best build quality but they ware to big and to heavy for me, also too much low end if it goes about saund quality. On the other hand sennheiser h25 looks and feels cheap and cheesy. Sound is very flat and I cand understad that it is what somen may wanted. HD25 have also slippery pads and they dont stick in one placy wneh you are moving. Audio technica M50X looks durable, sound is top notch, I can use them 8 hours straight and they I don't feel any discomfort.
@dibarondj8790
@dibarondj8790 Жыл бұрын
I have used the X5 and would not recommend you do. After 12 months of moderate use they broke from the plastic hinges on both sides so after weeks of back and forth on email they agreed to replace then out of good will they said only for them to brake in exactly the same way from the plastic hinge which is brittle and weak. I wouldn’t mind but I didn’t even use them that much and the box said head tested 20,000 times which must be 🐂💩
@StephanMiske
@StephanMiske 3 жыл бұрын
the Pioneers all have replaceable parts. Also the X10 has a larger freq range then the 5 and 7.
@jfedealvarez9286
@jfedealvarez9286 3 жыл бұрын
yeah but you forgot the price.. this is a kind of review where you put everything on the dish and you choose whats better in terms of sound, price and confort
@djphillmp
@djphillmp Жыл бұрын
HD-25!!!!!! There's a reason more djs use hd-25. Low distortion at high level spl
@gregc7314
@gregc7314 9 ай бұрын
Think your ATH-M50X headphones may be fake. There are lots of reorts of counterfeit ATH-M50X's. Objective test results show them to be pretty neutral. My listening sugggests the same.
@shanedemorais7397
@shanedemorais7397 4 жыл бұрын
what was your breakin duration for each?
@DJSchoolAmsterdam
@DJSchoolAmsterdam 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Shane, the have been playing for at least 24 hours. Keep in mind that changes as a result of 'burning in' of headphones are minor and have no great effect on the overal sound signature.
@shanedemorais7397
@shanedemorais7397 4 жыл бұрын
@@DJSchoolAmsterdam Er, that's not been my experience. The treble in the Signature DJ became substantially less harsh/brittle after 30hrs of breakin. All my other "driver" based cans benefit from a good breakin period.
@DJSchoolAmsterdam
@DJSchoolAmsterdam 4 жыл бұрын
@@shanedemorais7397 Agree, but taking into account the plasebo effect (wanting to here improvement) and the fact that your ears get 'used' to a sound signature the changes will still be suttle, certainly for the untrained, and 'unaware' ear. A 'bad' headphone will not change into a 'good' headphone after breakin. Also check this article: www.rtings.com/headphones/learn/break-in. And this one: www.soundguys.com/headphone-burn-in-isnt-real-17463/
@user-er5co9fr7m
@user-er5co9fr7m 10 ай бұрын
Dont forget to mention on the x5 is more plasticky then the audio technica. M50x is more comfier then the x5. Sounds better too..
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 3 жыл бұрын
4:50 that's an awfully nice way to say too much bass boost.
@alanarguello3704
@alanarguello3704 4 жыл бұрын
Good and honest review, but it makes me think that all audio or music experts should know this one thing to avoid imprecise judgments: the burn-in (or break-in) process is a must to really get to know how a pair of headphones truly sound. I have the ath-m50x and the HDJ- x10-k and I admit they didn't sound good when recently gotten out of the box, but after 150 hours+ of use the Audio Technicas sound really good and the Pioneers sound really incredible and beautiful and I cannot imagine a $200 dollars on-ear small driver headphones sounding better than them. I suggest to give at least 80 hours of usage to headphones before commenting about their sound quality (in a hurry, because to get the very best they can perform we may need around 300 hours) ... it does make a world of difference and after years of empiric experimentation I'm not really speculating.
@DJSchoolAmsterdam
@DJSchoolAmsterdam 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Alan, good point! I do think that the basic characteristics are present before 'burn in' time, and the sound will change in details, like less sharp high frequencies (audio technica) , but if a headphone is bass heavy, it will not change into a neutral sound over time. I personally have different headphones for different usage, like beyerdynamics for accuracy and stereo placement, Sehnheisser for a neutral producing sound and Sony (noice-canceling) for big entertaining bass.
@alanarguello3704
@alanarguello3704 4 жыл бұрын
@@DJSchoolAmsterdam Yes, I think that what you are saying is true. Btw, I want to apologize because now that I read again my comment, I think it looks rather cheeky and when I wrote all that I had no intention to discredit or offend anyone but I was just trying to make a contribution for the sake of all the reader's understanding on headphones. You compared the right headphone models for DJs so that's a very needed content for youtube. Keep up the good work! thanks!
@joaquinbenabentos
@joaquinbenabentos 4 жыл бұрын
I think you are right, my HD 25 after 100 hs of burn in change dramaticaly. The bass wasn't there at first time, and then it was just mind blowing. Also the treble was another thing, much less harsh.
@dj-peterofficial2753
@dj-peterofficial2753 4 жыл бұрын
Don't ever compare on vs over ear headphones. I feel desperate when i occasionally do a B2B with someone and using their shitty HD-25's. They are screaming high in the mid's and highs, has absolutely no isolation at all, and when around the the neck, there's no auto swivel which make them dingledangle flapping all around. After a few hours my outer ears start hurting because of the constant pressing on the ear. After using the Pioneer HDJ-2000's, HDJ-2000Mk2's and the HDJ-X10's since they came to market, there's very little that could change my mind and use anything else and feel comfy. Doing around 200 gigs/year under normal circumstances, I need a good quality, well isolated headphone that give me all the frequencies so I can make individual choices for every transition, and not be dependent on only snares and high hats, which I have no problem hearing in the pioneer head phones despite being 51 years old and being a DJ since 1985. The HD-25's feel like toys in comparison in my opinion. But, for someone preferring the on ear head phones, and the HD-25's in particular, they will have as many arguments for them as I have for the Pioneer head phones, and the same in reverse for them sa well.
@joaquinbenabentos
@joaquinbenabentos 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the HD25 and i have the same opinion, is unconfortable to uso an over ear headphone. I will buy the x10
@tomislavmalbasic6843
@tomislavmalbasic6843 3 ай бұрын
did you tried X7 ?
@dj-peterofficial2753
@dj-peterofficial2753 3 ай бұрын
@@tomislavmalbasic6843No, but I think they are very a similar fit, but maybe not that good sounding. Still they will be a very good pair of headphones for Dj'ing. Personally I don't think it's worth using anything but the best as I do long gigs, up to 7 hours and on average 5 hours and the quality of my headphones will have a direct impact on my future hearing, which I wish to keep functional as long as possible.
@bobpuls
@bobpuls Жыл бұрын
Senhaiser has a low power output.... This is the only reason i do not want them
@skateboardkid420
@skateboardkid420 Жыл бұрын
Guy claims the ATM-50X will break within a year, my ATM-50 originals have been to hundreds of shows and beat to shit and they will not break. Never seen or heard of one breaking, so guy is immediatly full of it lol. later guy, read the comments, everyone using ATM50X
@Mosorel
@Mosorel Жыл бұрын
I used M40x, casual, after two years of using, the quality of the outside material seems okay, but the right-head don't work no more. Even I'm in love with the sound of the M40x, the inside electric organisation disappointed me, it should not fail after 2 years of using. I want to try pioneer x5 this time, I've heard is pretty solid.
@busywl69
@busywl69 4 жыл бұрын
pioneer phones lol. ok. hd25 is the best value going out there, next the 50x.
@busywl69
@busywl69 3 жыл бұрын
@@polger1739 or....I'm right lol
@busywl69
@busywl69 3 жыл бұрын
@@polger1739 its all subjective. what I like, next person will think it sucks ass. But I don't think they are an idiot for their opinion lol. I watch movies n game on the x2hr (incredible sound stage), which some reviewers spit on lol. But they sound great to me. I use HD25s for general listening but I have the new 560S on the way. Might replace em. I use the much-dissed ATH-m50X for audio stuff. Beyers I demoed were way to bright on all material. I've demoed the Pioneers. Priced like Beats, marketed like Beats, sell like beats. More power to them.
@yomommastupid
@yomommastupid 2 жыл бұрын
I just got the hd25 and I'm not impressed...too small on the ears and very stiff and hard...sound not that impressive
@kronossonork6994
@kronossonork6994 3 жыл бұрын
Was this guy sponsored by Pioneer?
@djholzzyHere.
@djholzzyHere. 3 жыл бұрын
Well if he was he’s probably not anymore after putting the 25s on top🤣
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 2 жыл бұрын
yeah he is embarrassing. M50X destroys all overpriced Pioneers.
@JorgeMirandaOrtega
@JorgeMirandaOrtega Жыл бұрын
jajajajaja jbl? really? are y crazy?? jajajajajajajajajajajaja
@lextr3110
@lextr3110 4 жыл бұрын
hdj-c70 kill the hd25.. forget this guy he doesnt have ears anymore
@DJSchoolAmsterdam
@DJSchoolAmsterdam 4 жыл бұрын
lex Tr3 Hi Lex, my hearing is fine (has been measured recently) so no need to jump to unfounded conclusions. I do have trained ears, that means I can hear differences between a “spectaculair” sound and a more honest , but for some, more boring sound, and that is exactly the difference between the C70 and the HD25. What sound you like beter is very personal.
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