Great video man... I've thinking about making a similar video, but yours is on another level... Welp back to my script I guess

very well done! This video was perfectly executed! I think i would put myself in the advanced tier here

I consider myself a black belt/master slayer and white belt when I have shitty days lol

@@mrzeromafia the feels!! You’re hitting everyone in the feels! 😛

@@Allstin Lack of sleep, unfinished work etc really gets into play but I found a solution thought, just lower the difficulty, sometimes it's fun to breeze throught as "Canon/lore accurate" Slayer lmao

We all have been there, don’t worry! The goal is to learn what those are and why you do them. And minimize em

@@Allstin exactly my man

Absolute same holy

@@mickaelmarty274 have you figured out what the mistakes mostly are?

@@Allstin not yet, i will tho

Same here, I think the main reason is the carcass spins around SUPER fast so its easier to just bloodpunch them or PB+SSG.

I always meathook ssg them as its instant and a good armor refill

It's pretty hard to hit though

Wait does this instantly kill them or what

They allude to that in the ‘back’ glory kill when the slayer stabs them in the tank and they will explode

It's called "I'm Too Young to Die" wym?? Lmao

@@reddemon8802 its homage to older games

i feel like it very lightly makes fun of them but not in a mean spirited way it makes sense that if you dont wanna die a lot you'd play on I'm Too Young to Die

but i do feel like doom eternal does a good job on the lower difficulties at teaching players the game and provides a good experience for players of that skill level too, I think that thats important. those players might have a fun time playing through once or grow to love the game and play a bunch, going on to earn their blackbelt in blastin off demon meats

No shame in playing on easy while learning the game, as long as you're having fun. If/when you want to move up to a higher difficulty, dont get discouraged too quickly if you die a lot. Viewing each death as a learning opportunity is important. Also the first few levels are actually some of the hardest. You're trying to learn this complex game and get acquainted with the enemies, and you don't have a full arsenal or a lot of upgrades yet, so it is tough. Once you get further most people find it gets easier because you're stronger, have more weapons, and are better at using the tools at your disposal.

ID knew what they were doing... I was one of thos who liked Eternal in 2020 but thinked "is too much, I prefer 2016's" Some years of playing and understanding the basics and now I love this game so much lol

yeah bc you WERE a rookie. I have 230 and don't feel like i'm anywhere close to dominating the hard stuff like the blood swamps or Taras Nabad ML on nightmare

Yep! It makes sense too, exploding the tank lol It’s not somethin I find I can use in an actual fight, but just knowing stuff like that about the game, at a deeper level, is cool!!

That is actualy what I REALY like in DOOM Eternal, after few playthroughs you always learn something new

@@vald3mar_983 And you can ALWAYS learn something new. after doom eternal, I'm in love with skill based games.

i ve see it too

where?

they switch weapons faster than I do

They forgot to add "need 100+ fps to work properly" thought lol

They’ve actually cut back on some FPS mechanics like with enemies I hear! The important thing is getting a consistent rhythm in your swaps

The learning curve feels so rewarding

@@doomduck9073 I just like to have a shooter for once that is skill based single player fps.

@@doomduck9073 the only other game that i can think of that has a huge learning curve that's so rewarding is Rainbow Six Siege

@@richardtoth7240 Yeah, it also only gets funner the better you get, especially now that we also have community mods which the devs are kind enough to allow because theyre cool

@@kionicxnm Superhot, particularly Superhot VR is another. The base game, eh, unless you're speedrunning it's not that in depth. The endless mode is where shit gets real in VR. Look the game up if you don't know what I'm talking about, but time moves when you move. You also have to manually aim with your arms and when throwing weapons, there's a HUGE skill curve to knowing how to aim your throw, how hard to throw it, predicting where the enemy will be so if he's strafing you can throw where he's going to be rather than where he is that moment. And any time you go to take a shot or throw an object, you have to know those actions speed time up you have to be ultra-aware of everything around you, since 1 shot and you're dead. Then there's remembering how much ammo you have in each weapon since they all have set limits and can't be reloaded, and a blank fire will still speed up time. On my best endless run, I got a high score of 733 kills, took me 30-40 minutes of physically contorting my body in ANY way that would help me dodge a bullet or line up a shot. Non VR superhot is basically the same game, same mechanics just without the physical interaction. check them out

460 hours and i didnt even know...

Me too... Just finished my first Nightmare run of the base game and DLCs, didn't die too much either except in cultist base (due to minimal loadout) the slayer gate in the holt (possessed marauder in an arena with carcasses) and the Saraphim boss fight. The carcasses were easily my most hated enemy and now that I know I can blow the tank up, fuck em. They don't stand a chance.

you can WHAT

900+ hours and I didn't know that...

bruh same

It’s a challenge for sure - combat chess as Hugo said! While reaction and such is key, knowing your (and your enemies’) next move, and planning accordingly, adapting to when things goes awry… that’s key! You don’t need quickswitching for example. Other things are more important (though it helps for sure) Also 30s guy here. Started with the classic as a kid! Thank you for watching and commenting!

@Allstin I've noticed 1 thing with games that require actual skill and games that are being hard for the sake of being hard like the dark souls series and elden ring. Doom eternal explains its mechanics to you well, AND tells you the techniques and core strats you need to master. It tells you all the information you need and tries to hide as little from you as possible. Doom eternal also has different difficulty settings rather than just being hard so you can make it easier or harder, keeping the game engaging. Distance, is another game that requires skill and the top speedrunners in the game play it with perfection, like in doom. I've actually done speedruns of tracks in distance simply because its actually fun to learn it and quite satisfying to pull off the top time on a track. It too has advanced techniques you have to learn. The problem with dark souls series and elden ring I've noticed is fromsoft deliberately hides key information from you, particularly in elden ring such as hiding the poise and stance meters. These games are also not that well balanced. In doom you have the tools to keep up with the enemies speed, but in elden ring for example, you do not many a times. The exception to this was dark souls 2 sotfs which took somewhat a similar approach to doom eternal in that it did balance its weapons quite well, gives you ways to make the game harder AND has a sort of skill ceiling requirement when doing PVP. Sadly fromsoft removed a lot of that. Unfortunately ds2 explains almost nothing about its mechanics so you don't know what you are even doing wrong. Or come up with a strat. Thats why I found playing doom eternal still fun on the harder difficulty settings as I could see where I could be messing up. And looking at guides its just re-explaining and expanding upon what the game already told me.

​@@siyzerixmiyazaki does teach you. His hand is much heavier though, that's how you get tree sentinel and morgott at the start. He also knows people will go online to get guides, which is why he lets players leave messages. Also, the hardest fromsoft game has the best tutorial, as detailed, or even more detailed than doom eternal, but you just can't teach the game system other than shoving genichiro down your throat. The dance cannot be explained or taught, you just have to do it to learn it.

@@Kburn1985 @Kburn1985 Doom eternal literally tells you what each enemy weakness is and how to beat them, how much your buffs will last for, demon glory states, etc. Elden ring meanwhile cannot even tell you how much stance damage your attacks do since you have a hidden stance meter. Even making it visible its no guarantee an enemy will go into a stance break as they can ignore the meter going zero. Does the game explain enemy weaknesses and how to beat then in the fastest way? No, it doesn't. that's discounting half the stuff is hidden from you, something doom eternal avoids actively. There is no way ER's tutorial is more detailed than doom eternal's. Otherwise the tree sentinal and margit would be far easier.

It's what Arena Shooter always was, but this game just break a wall that no one know they had

There are tons of little cool DOOM facts I’ve been compiling! 😄 been meaning to make a video but I’ve just been so covered with other projects

You sir, are a cool guy

Thank y’all for caring 😄 Don’t worry, I’ll be watchful. Eternal is basically the only game I play (aside from clash of clans). When I find a game I enjoy, I dive hard into it. And I’ve been a DOOM fan since the 90s. Regarding other videos, I actually do have a second channel where I talk about tech news and money talk! The latest video is about Twitch’s new ban policy: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLaSYLeA1rjNZZ8.html

@@Allstin honestly i have no desire to play another game. Eternal is so good that every other game feels a bit shitty to me. I have gotten largely into arena shooters tho such as dusk, amid evil, ultrakill etc. This game is pretty tense tho so breaks are necassary imo

Oh no!! A day late ahh But now... take this into TAG2 maybe? Back into TAG1/base game? The first run is always the hardest!

@@Allstin Do more covers of Doom music, because i really liked meathook, and maybe i'll forgive you ;)

they'll fuckin getcha dude

Yeah, with sgn master I start learn combo switching and then realize how easier it comes.

i'm still trying to get thru SGN master level i'm fairly new to Doom as a whole, but i'm sure of my skill and can carry my own weight (meathook as movement, quick switch, combos) Now i know what i need to improve :D this community is very poggers, i'm glad i bought the whole DOOM franchise on steam :p

Same man. I just finished tag 1 UN last night so ive finally done all of it

Became jucier I was new in late May 2021 But as of today, I beat UN on Tag 2 and base campaign and only Tag 1 remains Idk how I improve so quickly

Very nice! You’re moving along well 😃 practice and work!

Very welcome! It’s a sliding scale for sure. You can definitely be in the middle. So that’s when you take what you need (heh) from each level and apply it

@@Allstin Thanks!

Also me. I have some alt plans in place and do a decent job with cooldown/resource management, but way too often I'll be like "this Ultra-Nightmare death was bullshit" but then think about it after a few minutes/an hour and realize I just sucked lol. Or sometimes I don't have chainsaw when I need it. Like I'll do the advanced stuff mostly consistently (though I need to experiment more with faltering than just Ice Bomb or Shield Bash) but the times I don't still show up (also I don't have the best of aim, but I can make up for that with Chrono Strike and having put enough hours into the game to figure out pathing and good options). This video wasn't what I was expecting (was expecting more theory-crafting and not an analysis of skill levels), but this is still a godsend for if/when I finally get around to doing recorded Ultra-Nightmare runs of everything (I've done all the UN stuff before, but it wasn't recorded, which makes me sad).

@@Maximus7th Recently I've been doing a lot of resource management, in early campaign for saving up 3 chainsaw pips. I don't play UN but always play on Nightmare and I usually use the meathook and energy shield to get myself out of bad sitiations because i use the flame belch as an alternative for groups and I don't incorporate the chaingun into my playstyle a lot. I've just been dying to tyrants,barons or cyber mancubi lol i have to way of creatively dying, What about you?

@@Maximus7th recording yourself playing and rewatching it is a great way to see where you fucked up

i love that kind of stuff! it’s been in other videos too as key points. because the mental game will screw you over hard on ultra nightmare. worse than any enemy in the game

I’m in between intermediate and advanced it looks like, because I rely a lot on pb ballista and ssg ballista, but I have also memorized exact strategies on how I plan to deal with every single type of enemy, I use the meat hook for both the armor and to get out of the way. I use the chaingun shield a lot, to protect myself lol, and I’m able to do generally decent to good playing TAG 1 on nightmare and I have just recently did a successful ultra nightmare run of tag 2. I use grenades to deal with a lot fodder demons or to deal with barons and tyrants in conjunction with icebomb, and maybe a blood punch or two for the tyrants. Lol

You're right, the people who become absolute beasts at the game really quickly often have hundreds or thousands of hours of playtime in FPS games prior to picking up Eternal. And even if they dont, who cares? some things come more naturally to some people than others. as long as you're having fun and getting better at your own pace thats all that matters. I have the same problem tho, feel like I should be better than I am for my playtime. but at the end of the day I've had a lot of fun playing this game and gotten way better at it than I was. going from sucking on HMP to completing SGN ML on UN has been a blast. I could be way better than I am now, and I'll never be Zero Master, but I'm happy how far I've come. the fact I have room to improve is a good thing, it gives me reason to continue playing

@@furiousfap3369 Well said. As long as we have fun, who cares if we're not in the top 1 % of players? Only thing is that my pride sometimes gets in the way and I am too perfectionist and in turn get frustrated. I gotta learn to take it easy. Congrats on beating SGN ML on UN btw. I sure as hell can't do that yet.

yeah the meat hook can fling you around in all sorts of ways, definitely experiment with it. You can swing behind, around, and over enemies like fuckin spiderman

Nice!! Hope you like it. Lemme know if ya learn anything!!

I’m glad it helped!! There’s definitely room to grow once you learn what you need. And that’s awesome. If you want more vids just check out my whole DOOM Eternal Combat Analysis playlist. Or jump in the Discord. We talk strategy there

Thanks! I have a short one coming out right about... now - but! I have a few more longer ones planned for the next videos that are exciting!

@@Allstin that's awesome,I tend to like longer form content anyway,but esspecially doomstuff Ithink the sweet spot is around 40 min.

air control is game changing and basically mandatory imo

@@furiousfap3369 the next Doom game will surely standardize it

Thank you! I'm glad you like it and it can help! I have a playlist for combat discussion :)

@@Allstin I will check it out when I get the chance. 👍

@@aguywhocommentsonthings3362 sounds great! Hope it helps. In fact there’s been a couple from just today, and another just the day before or so!

Awesome! That is the goal! We help people out in the Discord if you wanna jump in: discord.gg/HdnT2y9

if you have trouble in the 3 or 4 mission you can use the power bolt - rocket combo when you get the rocket launcher in cultist

Honestly if you beat soper gore nest on UN you're for sure ready for the campaign. I beat all 3 in UN and for some reason my dumbass is still struggling with soper gore nest.

Awesome! Glad it helped :D

@@Allstin Rn, I’m super close to master slayer. I’ve beaten both dlcs and the main campaign on all difficulty’s (besides ultra nightmare) getting better each difficulty using my environment and weapons correctly. I’ve beaten horde mode on all difficulty’s (of course not ultra nightmare), once again using everything right. The thing that will settle for me if I’m a master slayer. Is if I beat ultra nightmare on one of the campaigns. Thanks again, Allstin!

@@ThatBackroomsFan very nice! Making progress across these last 6 months aye??

@@Allstin hey Allstin! I’ve now officially completed UN! Thank you for the tips, and thanks you for making great content.

@@ThatBackroomsFan whoa!! That’s awesome! Glad to be a help, way to go for putting in the work and succeeding!! That’s cool you came back to update progress and success

It lined up!!

thank you! glad you liked it

Nice that you can see the change! The closest thing to that is the classic mode master level, and other things to come. The skins are basically how you can measure yourself now... in a way. Even then, it’s maybe not the same? Especially since only the UN skins you need to be on UN for, the other challenges can be done on any difficulty

@@Allstin What I discovered when going on my second playthrough of UltraNightmare is that the way it gets easier is because you learn the spawn location and obliterate enemies ASAP. It involves a lot of critical thinking because you have just one life. True you can limit yourself, but going all the way up and die by starting the whole new game is brutal for health imo. Like beat UN only with a pistol. I don't say that kind of stuff is impossible to achieve, but it limits you and not everyone would be into that. But this test or mode can be it's own thing. Like a Horde mode or Parkour stage. I edited on my comment where I see that DOOM Eternal can become as sport type of game in a singleplayer. Like in Ninja Warrior were they are completing certain amount of obstacles within given time.

Thank you! Yes, that comes with time and experience. Feel free to drop by the Discord for any tips, we have some controller masters here!! discord.gg/HdnT2y9

@@Allstin thank you!!

Remember to use all the extra tools the game gives you, they will help go against this added aggression. You also get the brink of death mechanic which generally puts you at low health before you die unlike 2016

Of all the ways to die, RIP :(

When I die I get mad at demons, so I become deadlier

That’s progress! It’s a sliding scale so you can have different levels at different skills Come to the discord and we will help you!