The Ultimate Shed? | A Suspension Specialist Bike Cave

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3 жыл бұрын

Everybody has a bike tech / bike mechanic friend that they go to every now and again for a bit of advice on a particular hack or bodge! - Meet Fin, he has been friends with Doddy for about 20 years and is who Doddy goes to on the rare occasion he's after some mountain bike tech advice. In this video, we are taking a tour of possibly the greatest bike cave / Bike shed of them all!
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@gmbntech 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a MTB suspension question for Fin? Put it below with the hashtag #AskGMBNTech for a chance to be featured on the suspension special! 👇

@chrisridesbicycles 3 жыл бұрын

#AskGMBNTech What kind of trail do you reckon for suspension setup? Should I do several runs with one setup before changing anything? What to do about the increasing fatigue when you are doing run after run?

@pranavreddy6470 3 жыл бұрын

#AskGmbnTech im wondering, is it possible to have 2 shocks on the rear?

@bernttrude 3 жыл бұрын

#AskGMBNTech Can you explain for a beginner, how the compression setting work? I find it hard to understand it and how to set it up right.

@JamesAlexanderFoxhal 3 жыл бұрын

#AskGMBNTech Brilliant video both. Really enjoyable hearing two guys talking shop who are experts in their field. Lovely bike shed too. Could loose hours in there rummaging. My question is in regards to a 5th Element coil shock I’ve got on a 2002-2005 (I think) Santa Cruz Heckler 5 I bought yesterday. It’s my first dual suspension bike (finally getting back into biking after 12 years away)and the element has been TF Tuned previously. As a complete but wanting to learn amateur, how the heck do I set this thing up!? Are they any quick settings I can tweak or do I need specific tools to get a feel or is it just worth getting it looked properly. Thanks and all the best both!

@evo5349 3 жыл бұрын

Can you covert my 2020 Boxxer 200mm travel to coil.

@tomp329 3 жыл бұрын

please do a tour of the gmbn tech set

@georgegande1779 3 жыл бұрын

That would be rlly interesting

@badlarry172 3 жыл бұрын

yeh that would be a good vid

@tomp329 3 жыл бұрын

@Andrew Dodd cool. thanks

@DanRoddy 3 жыл бұрын

This is a great video, Doddy! More thorough interviews with the unsung heroes of mtb like this please - you know most of them, surely!

@edrcozonoking 3 жыл бұрын

I just purchased a Stanley Rotator Ratchet because of this video. I didn't know I needed one until today.

@davedebokx7096 3 жыл бұрын

Finn clearly knowes everything about bikes and suspension tuning, his t shirt confirmes that. (Kingdom brand tee)😁

@jackiegammon2065 3 жыл бұрын

This was undoubtedly the best video GMBN has done in quite some time! It's always nice to have an actual mechanic talking about the shop info vs someone that simply watched a video and then is presenting it. And for future, PLEASE give us more of this and more info on setting up suspension.

@justinwilkin 3 жыл бұрын

I remember meeting finn when I worked at TF Tuned as a summer job while I was at uni in 2012. Super cool guy and his VW Camper wheel spins ALL THE TIME. I also used to use the lathe he now has when I worked at TF Tuned to make shock spacers, so it's nice to see its gone to a good home!

@mortonfrankfire5400 3 жыл бұрын

The man. The legend. Fin spends a significant amount of time repairing my screw ups! 😂

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

I like to call it creative spannering

@fredd4457 3 жыл бұрын

#askgmbntech Hi guys, big fan of the channel. Please give us a rundown of the mechanism behind a H/L compression and H/L rebound adjustment dials work. What actually happens inside the unit to change how it behaves? Thanks!

@peglor 3 жыл бұрын

In most cases the fork is designed to act like a pump when it moves, moving a fixed volume of oil for every cm suspension travel (Though some designs probably tweak this as well). This oil is routed through a restriction that slows the oil flow down. Turning the adjustment dial adjusts the size of the restriction either using a needle valve type setup or a pair of aligned holes that are misaligned from each other as the damping in increased, leaving a smaller and smaller overlapped area between the holes restricting the oil flow. A one way valve is used so that the oil can easily go in the opposite direction to the flow when the fork moves the other direction, so compression damping only acts when the fork compresses and rebound only acts when the fork extends. Low speed and high speed compression add a pressure sensing element to the system so on a sudden impact, the spike in the oil pressure will open a valve temporarily to allow the oil to take a different route. The most basic version of this is the way most forks will still move if you hit something really hard while they're locked out.

@milesmason3234 3 жыл бұрын

@Fred Gazeley check out the Dialed series on the Fox channel, they have a video where they tear apart a fork and show the valving and adjustments

@fredd4457 3 жыл бұрын

@@milesmason3234 cheers mate!

@Mendibil5 3 жыл бұрын

Love this kind of stuff. More please!

@kingkwassa 3 жыл бұрын

I would love more personal workshop tours!

@dazgreen63 3 жыл бұрын

Doddy this was my fave ever gmbn tech video. Absolutely absorbing from stat to finish. Let's see more of this guy. When he said his fave thing was his lathe I knew he was a guy I could relate to. 10 out of 10

@jamespilar9840 3 жыл бұрын

Straight forward comments, humble in a lot ways.He knows his trade.Also years of hands work.

@unitysound23 3 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this video, great to see this side of the MTB story, so many riding videos about, to see it from another perspective is great. Lovely workshop too

@cb6866 3 жыл бұрын

That was great...always enjoy learning from a master. Thanks Mr Dodd. Be safe mate

@HAFIZzainalHZ 3 жыл бұрын

4:26 are those bike rim paper towel holder? 😂

@djowelv 3 жыл бұрын

Pulls out a $10 Aliexpress derailleur hanger tool: " oouuuhh, that is really posh".

@jamesc6876 3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought. He’s seen Park Tools stuff before and saw something different. It’s actually close to $25 now and take about 3 weeks to deliver. I would have the Park Tools one any day. Abbey tools make a green one with some similarities so it must work well. That Stanley tool is surprising

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Park tools for every day. The Aliexpress one is a complete copy of the Abbey tools one. I got that because bikes like the Trek Rail have a particularly close gear hanger to the pivot. Which my old Park tool doesn’t clear. Thought I’d see if the cheap one did the job. Yet to see how long it lasts in the workshop environment but it works pretty well

@livefreeandshred9818 3 жыл бұрын

That's funny. I have a broken enve m730 that I'll be making into shelf brackets too

@leatherneckadventures9296 3 жыл бұрын

Please do more of these type of vids with the interviews. It nice to see into what makes this sport so great.

@coa2222 3 жыл бұрын

Please more of this workshop and this dude, absolutly owemose

@ds4pave 3 жыл бұрын

Love this Doddy... I need more of this - 👌🏼

@festol1 3 жыл бұрын

01:40 Thanks for caring sir! Great show you got :)

@terptv710 3 жыл бұрын

Buying tools is as addictive as buying bike parts, I've spent thousands on snap on tools 😂

@davidking3699 3 жыл бұрын

The most danagerous thing you can do is get one of their printed catalogues, and leave it in the smallest room of the house to browse whilst sitting on the throne... so many pages with corners turned over as 'the next thing I need'... lucky I can't order online direct, that would be a very expensive 10 minutes on the throne with my phone and the catalogue...

@edrcozonoking 3 жыл бұрын

I just purchased a Stanley Rotator Ratchet because of this video. I didn't know I needed one until today.

@esoxcycles 3 жыл бұрын

One of your best videos Doddy. Love the workshop and tools. Fin seemed OK too. Love the other bits, how many of us have an r/c car or two in our bikecave?

@peterrecchia6830 3 жыл бұрын

I see he has some Wera tools. The Wera Zyclop is a great ratchet. Check it out! I've been thinking about sending Doddy one!

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

They do a Hammer Ratchet too

@peterrecchia6830 3 жыл бұрын

@Andrew Dodd Ha! No guess I kinda baited you with that one. I’m an elevator mechanic in NYC, and a fan of Wera Tools, and your show! That wera Zyclop is super cool. When I saw your boy had some Wera stuff, I was surprised not to see one in his ratchet quiver.

@brentv7299 3 жыл бұрын

Another great Tech episode. I'm with Fin - I hate wrenching on dirty stuff!

@jonathandixon8456 3 жыл бұрын

Love the wheel rim shelf brackets

@mirkosvemirko5923 3 жыл бұрын

What a ASMR video, lovely. Need more of this.

@enrico8655 2 жыл бұрын

Wow just wow, a real mechanic

@MrCampbellZA 3 жыл бұрын

Recently changed to new forks and have since installed ALL the volume spacers and will keep eyes on that stanchion o-ring and reduce where necessary, Fin has a good methodology there.

@Sibert_ 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely shed! I like the raw OSB-walls you often see in sheds & local bike shops nowadays. It's a convenience thing for sure (so easy to build and afterwards you can hang an infinite number of things on 'em) but they also do provide that nice, warm touch, no?

@caiburr7038 3 жыл бұрын

Such a good video thank you 🙏

@jamesmixon9838 3 жыл бұрын

I like those shelf supports that he made out of sections of rim!!

@gmck 3 жыл бұрын

Fin did a top job coil converting my Lyric. He’s right about how improved it is. Slippery slope though, now my previously lovely air shocks feel inferior and man-maths is rearing its head.

@judechandler5102 3 жыл бұрын

What's the bottom out like on big drops/hard compressions?

@gmck 3 жыл бұрын

@@judechandler5102 zero problems. He left the valve in the top of the spring leg with the advice to put 3-5 psi in there if I was doing a day of massive drops. Tried it once and haven’t bothered since.

@thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind Жыл бұрын

I love what he said about the rear shocks. I agree, total air sucks. spings are needed in case of failure. if weight is a problem buy titanium springs.

@picshooter 3 жыл бұрын

One of your best videos.

@raylaux8295 3 жыл бұрын

Great show, mate!

@pe3117 3 жыл бұрын

Really love the video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@christenrten 3 жыл бұрын

The black/blue Manitou is a Manitou 4. I had the same fork on my first proper MTB back in 1996

@Dorkbike 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, that was impressive and very interesting.

@extremewinter 3 жыл бұрын

Love the GMBNTech Doddy. I was just left smiling🤪has my wife keeps telling I’m a weirdo by the love of tools, It’s there such a thing has too many tools?#AskGMBNTech by the way loved the rim shelf supports there, total Enginuity😜, one more thing what was that wheel with cable ties?WoW

@badlarry172 3 жыл бұрын

love this type of stuff ta

@andym9103 3 жыл бұрын

Loved this video! I wish I had even half the knowledge Fin has and the gmbn guys. I started working on my own bike when the 1st lockdown started and have been learning bits but I feel way out of my depth due to having no one but videos to help. Although its a late comment, what would you guys or Fin advise or recommend I do when working on my own bike?

@caylanwojciechowski8233 3 жыл бұрын

Coil for life. To have this level of knowledge would be so awesome ha. Experience.

@joescott7500 3 жыл бұрын

Cool video, quite different. Good you guys are uploading on the daily. Still waiting for 4k though...

@leonline3424 3 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed this show very much

@allanbuchan6947 3 жыл бұрын

Sampi fries on the wall ,awesome

@user-oq9rq5dr5d 3 жыл бұрын

Love this

@phillmuz5184 3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with the clean bike, always wash my bike and van before a service, turning up with a dirty bike is like turning up to the dentist without brushing your teeth first, not cool.

@sixtysecondsofstephens2386 3 жыл бұрын

What a top bloke.

@tofadeisastart 3 жыл бұрын

Only good friends let friends rummage through their tool boxes. 👍🏻

@youngstadan4999 Ай бұрын

Great vid

@Justkeepshredding Жыл бұрын

So much info for one vid, I need a cup of tea!

@jjo9459 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid.

@1067148 3 жыл бұрын

Jagwire has a cable routing kit too I think.

@jay_pozz4222 3 жыл бұрын

Clean bike before taking it to the work shop. Is something iv done my hole life it goes for car's and motorcycle's as well mechanic's will love you for it.

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Would be like going to the dentist without brushing my teeth

@dylankatz1891 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Doddy. Love the tech videos. I recently bought a Polygon Trid ZZ slopestyle bike but I can't find any suspension set-up guides for it. Any suggestions on how to set up ss suspension. Thanks. Dylan. Also, I'm 145 lbs (66 kg).

@Thematty635 3 жыл бұрын

Those shelves! Godamn! If anyone has spare enves laying around I'll take them no need to cut them up 😂😂😂

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Cheap Chineesium rims - posh stickers - shhhh, don't tell

@TheJamie2405 3 жыл бұрын

#AskGMBNTech do the new ‘progressive Spring’ coil shocks work as well, or at all, on a frame specifically designed for an air shock? Big fan of the show, making lockdown bearable! Thanks

@tanyamasters3850 2 жыл бұрын

Did the ask special with Fin get made? Would love to watch it

@Milesbarrington 3 жыл бұрын

I've known Fin a while (since before I had a 1x8 chameleon ;) ), and use his knowledge and inventory even though I'm now in the south of France. The B word might change things but my one stop shop for techie stuff. Even daft questions about lathes...

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

and broken mugs :)

@Milesbarrington 3 жыл бұрын

@@finlaypaton7202 {ROFL emoji}

@gaddmeister 3 жыл бұрын

What is it with VW freaks, mountain bikes and tool fetishes! I always thought I was unique? 😂😂

@MrTobytat2 3 жыл бұрын

By the end of the video, I felt like a 3 year old and wanted to ask him to be my best friend 😂

@riderrunco 3 жыл бұрын

Yes boys

@stevenairey3818 10 ай бұрын

Hi great video does anyone know what backpack doddy is wearing?

@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me, I need to collect my shock from Fin.

@trevorwillis3950 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool and a VW man to 👍🏻👌🏻

@tegzzzy 10 ай бұрын

Fin is so right about E-Bikes

@nickadsett9380 3 жыл бұрын

fin on gmbn tech lets go undoubtably the best technician around id choose him over anyone he repairs my sons bike

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick 🙂

@smtkelly 3 жыл бұрын

Did Fin used to work at Bonthrone Bikes as a manager?

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Yes - many Eons ago

@smtkelly 3 жыл бұрын

@@finlaypaton7202 Hi Fin I thought you looked familiar. I used to work there for a bit when you were the Vauxhall manager. It was around the time Steve Peat visited the store. You were a cool boss :)

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

@@smtkelly Thanks

@kurotanaka4071 3 жыл бұрын

I wish we have this kind of bike mechanics in the phillippines

@kenchieintia2457 3 жыл бұрын

Same, cuz all bike mechanics here in the Philippines are too primitive, we call them "siraniko"

@rotorblade7363 Жыл бұрын

Time pedals. Awesome.

@francisdee9955 3 жыл бұрын

The pump is from the Mach21! Haven’t seen this thing for a long long time🙃

@keirfarnum6811 3 жыл бұрын

You mean the Mag21? The Rockshox fork?

@the30Amechanic 3 жыл бұрын

That Stanley ratchet 🤯

@Grimmi112 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your always fantastic films. I learned again today. Please do not get me wrong. What does Fin recommend when securing bicycles in the work stand? I was always told not on a retractable seat post. What do I do with carbon frames? I would appreciate a contribution with your recommendations for all of these questions. Cheers Manuel

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

A good and well maintained workstand such as a Kestrel, won't damage it. If I'm hauling on a BB or something, I'll change the seatpost over for a regular alloy one.

@Grimmi112 3 жыл бұрын

@@finlaypaton7202 Thanks for your respons. Keep it up and stay healthy.

@sarahluther9671 3 жыл бұрын

I like how had his set up i need fox34 float 2016 model need a service never had a service since 2017 you know were to send it to please thank you doddy

@jpg6482 3 жыл бұрын

Really interesting vid - never considered a coil - hmm the brain whirring now!

@danfsims 3 жыл бұрын

#AskGMBNTech I’m planning of racing enduro this year on my Santa Cruz V3 5010 with a 150mm fox 36. The fork made a big difference and I was wondering if a coil shock would it make my bike more capable and give me the grip I’ll need in those steep Welsh woods?

@dancogdon 3 жыл бұрын

#askGMBNtech I have a Kona Process 153 from 2015 and love riding it. My son has a coil shock on his Specialized SX Trail and I love the way that rides. I have a rockshox monarch shock on the Kona but would love to fit a coil shock but is this like to blow through the travel as the frame is design for air?

@chrisgenovese8188 Жыл бұрын

clean your bike before you work on it. words of wisdom. cool workshop!

@EricSachsKindi 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video! #AskGMBNTech can I use Motul fork 20wd oil instead of Fox 20wt. Gold Bath Oil? Here in Brazil it is really difficult to find these Fox oils. Thanks!

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Yes - add some Float Fluid to thicken a 15wt oil would be my preferred lubricant, If I can't get hold of the specific stuff.

@olliereader5842 3 жыл бұрын

I think I have a problem with bike mechanics and parts, I love tinkering with my bike and putting new parts on 😂

@marcelziokowski4383 3 жыл бұрын

Insane

@taneliharkonen2463 3 жыл бұрын

#AskGMBNTech Is it okay, and if so, when and where, to do a shortcut/bodge in a suspension/dropper maintenance job task, where the proper and official way would be to use an expensive speciality tool that is only a one hit wonder. I'm talking fancy measuring tools, piston seal funnels, suspension shaft/ damper removal tools, seal setters, soft jaws, weird thread interface just to push or pull something, pressurized gas interfaces etc.

@ulises0717 3 жыл бұрын

Heaven on earth. Who makes the schematics prints? Cheers

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Ripe Digital printed them for me, I have some Evil ones left on the website

@ulises0717 3 жыл бұрын

Finlay Paton ty my man I need to check those out 👀 sick stuff 👌

@munrowheels 3 жыл бұрын

There's more Internal Cable Guiders on the market. Elvedes has one for sure

@KingerUTube 3 жыл бұрын

#askgmbntech - I’d love to know Fin & Doddy’s thoughts on Sprindex coils. (Good product to dial in spring rate?)

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Good if you are doing things like regularly carrying a heavy back pack, but pretty pointless otherwise. Several manufacturers now spec their springs in the exact poundage, or you could just look at a selection of springs on a dyno, to get the one for you. The spring rates can vary up to 10% on some makes - even the really expensive ones.......

@wytse87 3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for another great video! #askgmbntech Why is there no video online about servicing a fox transfer (2017-2020) dropper post? Will you make one? Including hacks on the many expansive tools? Cheers

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Look on Fox's Tech pages - you need lots of special tools - you can do without 2 of them if you are clever, but it takes longer, you definitely need the filler tool and the tool that holds the valve open. The tools are priced I think to make it really not worth the home mechanic owning them, which I think is a real shame.

@wytse87 3 жыл бұрын

@@finlaypaton7202 Hey thanks for the reply! did you give it a go? Love taking cae of my bike. Service/rebuild my Fox transfer seatpost is my next ambition and wouldnt mind spend a few (100?-200?) bucks on it. But spending about $1000 on specialist tools is in over my head. Real shame indeed!

@markjones4120 3 жыл бұрын

Is that a Following v3? Or the new Offering? Ok 120mm then Following v3, I’m going to get one of these in the Summer.

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Following V3, increased the travel a whole 4mm fitting a coil, LOL

@pablosg7563 3 жыл бұрын

#ASKGMBNTECH Thank you very much for the show really like it and learnt a lot. Those are my couple of questions. 1- How to really adjust the bushings on the fork when you replace them? 2- Whats is the best way to learn valving? Thanks Regards, from Spain!!!

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

1 - The Bushes are pressed into the lower and held in place with a retaining compound, Within the legs of the fork they are tapered so you can adjust the fit of the bushes to the upper by moving the bushes a few mm up or down, basically. 2 - By talking to other suspension techs and experimenting with different shims stacks & tunes

@pablosg7563 3 жыл бұрын

@@finlaypaton7202 Cool Thanks!!!

@thegriff9425 3 жыл бұрын

My suspension Q. What is the optimum way to set up a coil for varying rider weights and skill levels. We should all know how to tune an air shock, but what about a coil shock for small, incremental changes?

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

First and foremost get the spring rate correct Once you have that. Then you can fine tune damping & preload.

@deeoh2679 3 жыл бұрын

#askgmbntech I'm thinking about trying out a coil conversion on my 2021 Nukeproof Reactor 290. I remember Doddy did something similar. What would your tips be in terms of set up / buying, and what differences/benefits might I get?

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Talk to your local suspension tuner - take his or her advice

@benconnelly5246 3 жыл бұрын

This is heaven he is God amazing vid cheers #GMBN

@bjornhanses2836 3 жыл бұрын

#AskGMBNtech Hello I always wondered why the Marzocchi dirt jumpers and dirt jam forks from the early 2000s had a nasty clonk when they rebounded, they worked fine when they got of the shelf but after the first time you took it apart they started clonking, I tried all kinds of thickness of oil but they never got as they where, I've lately been investigated the matter and realized that they have no valves for the oil just a big hole thru the piston so how did it even work fine from the start? Am I the only one why had this problem back then? Thanks for a great show!

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Because they were filled with thick grease which will have coated all of the metal parts in the fork, then as soon as that mixed with the oil it looses anything to stop metal to metal contact, you can slow them down but it involves shutting off the holes and re-drilling.

@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын

+1 for Time ATAC pedals for trail work (flats for jump sessions), run time on all my bikes for 20+ years. but they have recently dropped the quality level on very latest ones, so 'time' will tell. And no service kits available fir the mechanism, unlike v similar crank bros.

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

The customer support is ace from Extra UK, just send them back

@1969Escobar 3 жыл бұрын

#askGMBNtech Hi guys, i have a 2019 fox 36 performance with a Fit grip damper, a friend gave me a (new) RC2 damper should i change it or leave the fork with the stock one (Fit grip), thanks.

@stewartbibb 3 жыл бұрын

#AskGMBNTech I am interested in putting a coil shock onto my 17 enduro. How do I pick the correct spring for my riding style. Thanks for the excellent content!

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

You need to do a spring calculation, plenty of those on line. You’ll need your weight - in your riding kit, the rear wheel travel and the shock stroke. Be sure to round up to the closest spring value. and Enduros tend to be very high leverage so add 50lbs to the calc.

@fresko3035 3 жыл бұрын

How do you guys run your freeride setup ?

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

Firm

@khristopherkabbabe5427 3 жыл бұрын

#AskGmbnTech hi guys, love the show I have a new remedy 8 and I find that it bottoms out on the back very often. I run it with 20% sag and I'm not that heavy. Some people suggest using a MEGneg can to increase the negative air chamber. I would like to know why would this help? Thanks!

@finlaypaton7202 3 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't help don't waste your money. You need to reduce the air volume in the main chamber first, then it will ramp up more toward the bottom end of the travel.