I have also seen credit given to Murasaki Shikibu (another woman) with The Tale of Genji, in the 11th century. In terms of genre it’s basically an epic romance, but its narrative structure is a bit odd compared with how we conceptualize novels nowadays. I actually read it back in undergrad, it’s not like any other book I have read. And, like the novels mentioned in the video, it is pretty open in terms of sexuality, in its own way. It became a foundational work of Japanese literature, studied by Japanese literature scholars since it was first published, basically. It also is important for historians and anthropologists because of how it paints a picture of Japanese court life during the Heian Period.
@lyndsaybrown84713 жыл бұрын
Yes, this!
@tananario3 жыл бұрын
She is specifically talking about English novels. How did you miss this?
@miro.georgiev973 жыл бұрын
@@tananario Because the video title is very general. It doesn't specifically address English novels, even though the content of the video itself does.
@marisalee1943 жыл бұрын
Dion Quixote isn’t English either
@m.f.hopkins87283 жыл бұрын
Cool. While I have this book in my collection, I have yet to read it. Thanks for the reminder!
@shadowscribe3 жыл бұрын
She's using her book to debase my image! This character is totally me! So... you're confirming on a public stage this character and her actions is indicative of your conduct? YE-wait... I retract my complaint.
@HunterHogan3 жыл бұрын
I agree that if the book's defamatory statements about Sarah Churchill were true statements, and if Churchill were suing Delarivier Manley for libel, then Churchill would have been playing a dangerous game of chicken with Manley. And, your comment is funny. :) A few small things change the perspective. First, Manley was not being sued in civil court for libel (defamation). She was charged in criminal court with the crime of seditious libel. If she were found liable for libel in a civil law suit, the court could only take away Manley's property: i.e., order her to pay money to the plaintiff and order the destruction of the books. If she were found guilty of the crime of seditious libel, however, the court could take away her property and her freedom. The charges were supposedly only concerned with the false statements (defamation) that incited insurrection. The prosecutor charged libel by claiming Manley's books had "many false, malitious [sic] and scandalous" statements. He charged it as seditious libel because the allegedly defamatory statements were allegedly about people in the government ("Several of the Queen’s Liege Subjects") and because the books allegedly caused unlawful rebellion against the government ("Disturbance of the publick [sic] Peace and Quiet of Her Majesty’s Government"). Because this was a criminal case, Sarah Churchill could not control whether or not charges were initiated, and she could not control whether or not the charges were withdrawn without trial. To prove that a satirical book with fictionalized names was defamatory, the prosecutor would need to prove that the damaging statements were false and that the other (non-damaging) statements were so similar to the truth that the fictional characters were describing a real person. It's a difficult balance. If the prosecutor had all of the actual facts and he had proved them at trial, then, under the law of the time, she might have been convicted. (The law was an unjust law, it was only about politics, the prosector would have had to bend some truths, the jury (if there was a jury) might have voted in her favor, and the judge might have had to misapply the seditious libel law, which regularly happened at that time and for the next 100 years.) But, the prosecutor didn't have strong evidence and seems to have assumed that Delarivier Manley, a woman, would confess everything after being arrested and interrogated. He was very wrong. The court "discharged without conviction" the charges. (That's close to, but not the equivalent of, not-guilty in the contemporary world, especially because the court could, and did, impose a fine on her.) [I thought, "I'll just quickly write a short comment." I was very wrong.]
@tharinduweerasinghe90073 жыл бұрын
@@HunterHogan Thanks for that much needed nuance
@hannahchristinah3 жыл бұрын
Carmen San Diego taught me that 'The Tale of Genji' (also written by a woman, Murasaki Shikibu) was the first novel.
@lyndsaybrown84713 жыл бұрын
Yes! Was looking for this! This and The Pillow Book, written by a contemporary. More of a diary, but also one of the oldest surviving manuscripts. These books are so old, they need to be translated by a specialist.
@sterlingherrera17923 жыл бұрын
@@lyndsaybrown8471 The Tale of Genji has an excellent translation by Royall Tyler that goes to great lengths to preserve the original writing style. Proper names are seldom actually used in the novel (it was considered disrespectful to do so, so only titles were used, and this goes for her name too, which means Lady Murasaki), whereas previous translations had made use of the traditional “fan names” for characters. Earlier translations had been abridged as well.
@VegimorphtheMovieBoy3 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@digitaljanus3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but that's why Lindsay qualified she's talking about the first *modern* novel.
@the_epicfangirl3 жыл бұрын
A manga I read in high school that was a retelling of that actually taught me that, but I’m glad I’m not the only one who pointed that out!
@mjlamey10663 жыл бұрын
Slightly disappointed we didn't get to hear about Aphra Behn's career in espionage.
@thefaboo3 жыл бұрын
And now I am too...
@tecpaocelotl3 жыл бұрын
Don Quixote was the deadpool of his time. Making fun of chivalry books of its time.
@GabyGeorge19963 жыл бұрын
What’s even more hilarious is that, according to Today I Found Out, chivalry never even existed. Whenever a Knight went out and “rescued” a woman from danger, odds are that in reality he was raping her.
@jakebarreiro95683 жыл бұрын
@@GabyGeorge1996 Surely you are forgetting the flower and crown jewel of knighthood who assuages grievances, repels wickedness, and is an emissary of light and righteousness to all. El Quixote is the most chaste and chivalrous knight in history!
@crazyfathamsta27013 жыл бұрын
I never thought of it that way but you're SO right!
@arryks3 жыл бұрын
But don Quixote is funny
@arghavansa.12793 жыл бұрын
You don't understand how much I need that Meg shirt though.
@violetlight15483 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of upset now that I earned an English degree and am only just now hearing of these authors.
@marlonmoncrieffe07283 жыл бұрын
Was it composition or literature?
@BradyPostma3 жыл бұрын
Two possible explanations. "Good stuff is never forgotten, so if it's forgotten it must be objectively garbage." "There's no accounting for taste, and great works of the past are continually lost and rediscovered. The subset of English novels you learned for your degree are a somewhat arbitrary part to the complete history of the English novel, possibly with a bit of identity-sensitive censorship with its thumb on the scales."
@briancundiff52823 жыл бұрын
Then you should have your degree taken away.
@violetlight15483 жыл бұрын
@@briancundiff5282 oh, I suppose undergrad students are now responsible for designing their own curriculums? Don't be an idiot. If it wasn't taught, that's hardly my fault.
@violetlight15483 жыл бұрын
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 both. English, Rhetoric and Discourse Studies, called English and Professional Writing when I first started the program. The name was changed halfway though (and not for the better, IMO)
@declanrhys35903 жыл бұрын
I always thought murasaki shikibu created the first novel, by modern definitions. It would be so incredible to see her historical distinctions be showcased and praised more.
@jsmoothd6543 жыл бұрын
Murasaki Shikibu: Am I a joke to you?
@cincocats3203 жыл бұрын
I think the distinction being made is that the modern prose novel in Europe developed independently from the prose novel tradition of Japan due to Japan's insularity at the time. Genji wasn't known in England outside of academia until the first translation happened in the late 1800s. So once Don Quijote was published in 1605, the concept of not having to write everything in poetry exploded throughout Europe ("ya mean I don't have to think of a fancy rhyme for let's shag in the parlor? Brilliant!") and by the late 1600s in England these women were publishing prose fiction. But because slutty prostitute pens couldn't be credited with writing the first English novel, the credit goes to Defoe, who published Robinson Crusoe in 1719, and that is still how it is taught today.
@TuppencePies3 жыл бұрын
@@cincocats320 Thanks for this. I also wasn't sure why Murasaki wasn't mentioned.
@Vaati19923 жыл бұрын
Aphra Behn, my gal! The first term paper I wrote for university was about Oroonoko!
@JDizaster3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping Lindsay would mention Oroonoko.
@catherineelmore20042 жыл бұрын
One of mine too!
@rociomiranda56843 жыл бұрын
Don Quixote is a very wise and funny book, if you read it at the right age. It's a rich painting of 16th century Spain. Glad to have you back, Lindsay.
@elinorcackett23143 жыл бұрын
I studied these women for my undergraduate degree. Pretty fun stuff and very critical of gender roles.
@TheSongwritingCat Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they were all covered in my required undergrad classes as well. And I contrived to mainly read female novelists for the rest of my degree. Little racial diversity, but I gather that's starting to change.
@ArtichokeHunter3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting, I don't know if it's just that theatre history is taught more inclusively than novels are in places I've studied, but I feel like Aphra Behn is studied a lot as a playwright, just not so much as a novelist. (It seems like she also wrote a lot more plays than novels.)
@marlonmoncrieffe07283 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I am theatre student myself and I had heard of Aphra Behn before.
@louisee73393 жыл бұрын
Weird! My degree is in theatre in England and Aphra Behn was never mentioned. Are you in the UK too? I wouldn't say she's especially popular here atm
@ArtichokeHunter3 жыл бұрын
@@louisee7339 no, US. I did a report on her in high school and she came up in theatre history in college, not a ton but we all knew who she was if we were doing theatre history. But that's just my experience, I'm sure lots of schools are different.
@SoqueFilms3 жыл бұрын
This is great but I wish you had mentioned that some of their writing went beyond Amatory fiction. Aphra Behn's novel(la) Oroonoko is both one of the first novels and is a slave rebellion narrative more than a love story. It surely is one of the earliest examples of abolitionist fiction to come out of the African/American slave trade. Also, she was a spy which is kind of awesome.
@ArtemisMS2 жыл бұрын
Also literally the work she is most known for. These Storied videos are honestly not very good...
@falgalhutkinsmarzcal39623 жыл бұрын
My problem with Woolf was that she was a condescending classist (referring to Joyce's work as "mongrel" and "underbred".)
@maristiller40333 жыл бұрын
Yeah I love Woolfs work but I’m reading her diary right now and I definitely noticed that. I also love Joyce (especially Ulysses) and had to raise my eyebrow at her opinions on how she referred to Joyce as a “self taught working man” in a derisive way.
@falgalhutkinsmarzcal39623 жыл бұрын
@@maristiller4033 She had so many tragedies in her life that you would think it would have engendered more sympathy for others, but evidently she had a bit of a prejudice against, as you said, "workingmen".
@maristiller40333 жыл бұрын
@@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 Exactly! I find it so hard to believe that people like Woolf, someone who was absolutely prejudiced against as a bisexual woman could turn around and be just as prejudiced to someone else. I guess lack of class consciousness really is a disease.
@falgalhutkinsmarzcal39623 жыл бұрын
@@maristiller4033 and she lost her favorite brother to a tragic early death and was sexually abused by her half-brother. Maybe she was insecure about her own standing as a writer and that insecurity manifested as classist scorn. I don't know. I still love The Waves and am able to overlook her human foibles, but it still sticks in my craw, being from a working class family myself.
@jakebarreiro95683 жыл бұрын
@@maristiller4033 In my encounters I don't find any direct relationship between being mistreated and treating others generously. Plenty of people get bit and pay it forward however they can!
@miro.georgiev973 жыл бұрын
Yay! Lindsay Ellis is back!
@TheGigashadow3 жыл бұрын
The novel is far older than what is presented here. There is for example 'The Tale of Genji' by Murasaki Shikibu written in the 11th century, or the Greek story "Chaereas and Callirhoe" which was written in 123 AD or its Latin contemporary "The Golden Ass" by Apuleius, these are arguably some of the oldest examples!
@SKH-kg1xw3 жыл бұрын
Does One Thousand and One Nights count as a novel?
@rafaela000023 жыл бұрын
I mean, she did say "modern novel"
@TheGigashadow3 жыл бұрын
@@rafaela00002 Regardless of what the presenter says, when the title of the video includes the line "Writers Who INVENTED the Novel" it makes the whole video willfully misleading and grossly incorrect!
@TheGigashadow3 жыл бұрын
@@SKH-kg1xw I'm sorry but i don't know.
@rafaela000023 жыл бұрын
@@TheGigashadow yeah that's true :/
@the_epicfangirl3 жыл бұрын
Lindsey I love you, but when are you and Princess going to tag team a video again? That’s still my favorite video!
@emmacouperus2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about non-English women writers from around the same time period, like for instance: Madame de Lafayette (her novels The Princess of Cleves and The Princesse de Montpensier are available in English translation at Gutenberg) Mademoiselle de Scudery (wrote one of the longest novels ever written, at 2.1 million words. I think some of her work can be found at the Internet Archive. She's also the main character of an early 19th century detective tale by E.T.A. Hoffmann and a main character in an early 20th century novel by Hope Mirrlees, whose Lud-in-the-Mist is an amazing pre-Tolkien fantasy tale btw) Please continue with more suggestions if you have some!
@eomguel90173 жыл бұрын
Not to undermine the analysis overall and the contributions of women to lliterature, but I see no justification for the Anglocentrism at the beginning. By taking the merit of pioneering the modern novel from Miguel de Cervantes and giving it to these obscure English authors, you are elevating women's role, while simultaneously dismissing the importance of he who is by many considered the greatest writer in the Spanish-speaking world (Cervantes is to Spanish what Shakespeare is to English, after all). Only towards the end do you explicitly say that these women helped develop what is now known as the modern English novel. Why not specify from the start that you're gonna be talking about the English novel and not THE novel as if the whole genre's history revolved around Britain?
@Emthe30something3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making me think about this.
@ArtichokeHunter3 жыл бұрын
It would have been really helpful to define the essential aspects of a novel that we're saying were first seen in amatory fiction; the "first novel" is such a subjective idea. I initially perceived this as dismissing Cervantes based on time, but it seems like he was writing before these writers, so I didn't really get the argument of what makes their work more novel than his, or Tale of Genji, or any of the many other works that get presented as inventing the novel.
@ahentargs3 жыл бұрын
Murasaki Shikibu enters the chat
@lyndsaybrown84713 жыл бұрын
Yes'm
@AlmodatherAwad3 жыл бұрын
Coming from you, Lindsay, the information has a completely different feel in my mind! You're awesome!
@nejohnsonbooks3 жыл бұрын
I can only hope to someday be called something as awesome as "prostitutes of the pen".
@elif69083 жыл бұрын
All this reminds me fanfic from audience to the writers to the dismissals.
@erinyes39433 жыл бұрын
Now that you mention it, yeah. Fanfic has some stigma lol
@Yoandrys233 жыл бұрын
excuse me, what about Genji monogatari and Murasaki Shikibu.
@ahentargs3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@alexandrad31583 жыл бұрын
Was about to say that, although Chinese literature has even older novels. Plus, other Non-English language works such as La Princesse de Clèves by the French author Madame de La Fayette
@lyndsaybrown84713 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@los4menzos3 жыл бұрын
Great video but I don't know why you had to hate on Quixote... which was also earlier than these ladies' work according to the video
@jakebarreiro95683 жыл бұрын
Exactly, "cumbersome" is one of the worst descriptions I've ever heard of Cervantes' work. Hard to believe anyone who's sat down with Quixote would find it so.
@fabrisseterbrugghe85673 жыл бұрын
I would've liked more on Aphra Behn, since she was the first English woman to earn her living by the pen. The Rover is a terrific play.
@crod99053 жыл бұрын
I need Lindsay's shirt!!
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache3 жыл бұрын
I see. So a prerequisite to join this distinguished group is to have cool headwear.
@moniqueloomis97723 жыл бұрын
😳😂
@erincarter99952 жыл бұрын
So good to see, Lindsey. Can't wait to hear your take on a new topic. Also that is a great shirt!
@arxxslxxgh3 жыл бұрын
In my uni we were taught the first novel was the Tale of Gengi.
@danyramos81393 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if anyone can, READ FANTOMINA! It is very short, the language is NOT difficult and it is very spicy and interesting! Lindsay didn't do it justice here, it is VERY good
@graphosxp3 жыл бұрын
Amatory fiction sounds interesting but where are the links for online reading? All those dead author ladies would have LOVED it if you had directed readers to their works!
@sakunaruful3 жыл бұрын
You could try Project Gutenbrg. It's a public domain website for stories.
@graphosxp3 жыл бұрын
@@sakunaruful i did a quick search there and on archive.org with no quick results. when i recommend something I like to follow up with easy access links. In person i just buy them the book and gift it out. and before you ask, the answer is "no", people do not like books as presents!
@sakunaruful3 жыл бұрын
@@graphosxp I see. I'll remember to include a link next time.
@violetlight15483 жыл бұрын
@@graphosxp you need better friends. I love books as presents!
@graphosxp3 жыл бұрын
@@sakunaruful LOL! I did not mean you silly, so very sorry for the misunderstanding! I was just talking about the channel creators. since they already did the research anyways i'd appreciate the sources links, if possible and legal of course :)
@glenellisquinn3 жыл бұрын
Pretty weird that you didn't bring up the Tale of Genji. Kinda thought that's what this video would be.
@thefaboo3 жыл бұрын
Lindsay: ... and ends up smothering him... me: with kisses? Lindsay: ... to death. me: 😳
@BradyPostma3 жыл бұрын
Presumably, one could be smothered to death with kisses.
@mathieuleader86013 жыл бұрын
@@BradyPostma depends if your dealing with the spooky
@BlackReshiram3 жыл бұрын
I've craved more Lindsay content.
@chavamara3 жыл бұрын
Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego told me the first novel was written by Lady Murasaki.
@rami_ungar_writer3 жыл бұрын
I read the title of this video and thought Murasaki Shibiku was going to be mentioned at some point. She wasn't, but I still learned something new, so I'm good.
@BinroWasRight9 ай бұрын
Some amazing literary history I knew nothing about. Thank you for this!
@mantunes3393 жыл бұрын
what about lady murasaki????
@Quartermistress3 жыл бұрын
She was a *favourite" of the Queen ;)
@JonathonSwinney28143 жыл бұрын
Lindsay! I love you're presenting this one!
@elizabethroyerjohnson49923 жыл бұрын
Ahh I did my undergraduate thesis on this topic! So cool.
@Heothbremel3 жыл бұрын
Love this focus on this angle of literature, am excited to see what else comes out of this line of inquiry xD
@helsinki3 жыл бұрын
The first novellist is Japanese noble woman 1000+ years ago. 'The Tale of Genji' by Murasaki Shikibu.
@jso67903 жыл бұрын
Ah,.. thank you.. I was sitting here this whole video trying to remember why I had heard of Aphra Behn (a rather interesting name, inherently) and you solved it at the end for me. whew.. I would have, probably, driven myself crazy trying to recollect, but would not have remembered to go for Woolf! Thanks for an incredibly informative video, and for solving the dilemma that you had posed by naming Behn early on! :)
@scribbly29833 жыл бұрын
I read Love in Excess in my Development of the Novel class in college, so ar least some professors are teaching those works from that perspective.
@chavamara3 жыл бұрын
But Moll Flanders ends pretty happily, though? She gets transported to America for her crimes, but she ends up going with the guy she likes and she has an inheritance waiting for her in the colonies. That's pretty damn good given the circumstances.
@pcaridad3 жыл бұрын
But Cervantes came way before theese ladies... 😕
@petalchild3 жыл бұрын
And Lady Murasaki came even earlier!
@unfabgirl3 жыл бұрын
*Looks at my collection of Eliza Haywood and Aphra Behn stories* I'm excited for this video.
@BradyPostma3 жыл бұрын
Woo! Lindsay Ellis content! My day just got better!
@cobrachicken073 жыл бұрын
I support this perspective. Library science is impacted by this as well. Special Collections protect these secrets. Get in to your Library and read!
@mattjmjmjm47313 жыл бұрын
People don't read those female authors because Jane Austen, George Eliot, and Virginia Woolf are a thing, a lot of male writers aren't much read anymore as well, there is a high standard for an old book to be a classic.
@insulaarachnid3 жыл бұрын
I need to know where the "I'm A Damsel, I'm In Distress, I Got This" t-shirt is from, I love it!
@kaelang123 жыл бұрын
me: aw yeah time for the tale of genji ... me: why are they not talking about the tale of genji
@Xloi633 жыл бұрын
Timothy Morton has a great lecture series (free on youtbe) about Romanticism that details how important the Bronte sisters use of a characters' internal dialogue was, the use of quotation marks, and how representative it was of the political and cultural upheavals of the time. truly fascinating
@ruliak3 жыл бұрын
Great video! But can someone tell me why one of the author ladies' faces was shadowed out?
@ludovico68903 жыл бұрын
Beauplaisir? Can you imagine a more ridiculous and improbable French name? I feel sorry for the guy though: imagine how much he must have been teased at school. He might as well do the most of his name.
@CipherDorito3 жыл бұрын
Damn as someone who studied french for two years the names slaps 😂.
@ditta78653 жыл бұрын
I was never shown anything of these women’s work in Australia, everything was only Shakespeare, Shakespeare, and Shakespeare. Most of the old writers I found out on my own or from friends who had gone to university, but that was only a way to Virginia Woolf. Jane Austen and Emily Bronte through the BBC show dramas and I was not a fan because of being such a tomboy, but in later years I read them all and I understand that the books are not love tales like some girls in high school think they are.
@CulainRuledByVenus11 ай бұрын
"Invented" is misleading. It goes far back before the 18th century. The first known novel was indeed from a woman, but it was about a thousand years ago. In the early 11th century, Lady Murasaki wrote The Tale of Genji. Now is a great time to discover it too, since we here in the west had no reliable translation of it till just this last century. Edit: Now I see you've described Don Quixote as "cumbersome" in your description box, and so perhaps you would not appreciate the first novel by a woman, since it is very long and complicated (without being slow). What a strangely narrow view of that book which has inspired countless people through time.
@pomragrahamate3 жыл бұрын
I love this! I took a whole class on this in college, reading several pieces by the women mentioned here, but then kind of following the novel's progression into Richardson, finally ending with Frances Burney. On a somewhat related note, I got into a weird faze a year ago where I found and read a bunch of novels written by the best-selling lady authors of in the US during the 1800s and I think they're even more underappreciated. We even have a letter from Hawthorne to his publisher complaining about "scribbling women" eating up the entire publishing industry and making it hard for "real" writers like him to make waves, referring to those now-forgotten female writers!
@thagrumbus56733 жыл бұрын
Hey Lindsey havent seen ya since the last video on your channel its awesome your on this channel as well
@gentlerat3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Lindsay!
@AMoniqueOcampo3 жыл бұрын
Wait, so what about Ann Radcliffe?
@emilydowd-arrow37513 жыл бұрын
She’s later but also WAY under appreciated!
@indeehood78823 жыл бұрын
OMG I love this video Lindsy.
@GamingDreamer3 жыл бұрын
first novel was by a woman but from asia "The Tale of Genji"
@donovanmedieval2 жыл бұрын
This was after Cervantes, who died the same day as Shakespeare. Was it not until around 1700 that Don Quixote was published in it's entirety in English?
@kailomonkey3 жыл бұрын
You Say murder is worse but...
@jollyjakelovell68223 жыл бұрын
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@laurenno86742 жыл бұрын
I'm going to start calling myself a Prostitute of the Pen. I love it.
@JanLegris3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Confusion rising from subjective interpretations of the title aside :)
@TheBluenyt093 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot. As an aspiring author this shed more light on the history of the craft 😎👏👏
@PogieJoe3 жыл бұрын
I learned quite a lot from this one!
@diamondtiara842 жыл бұрын
Anyone who likes Jande Austen and her contemporary women authors should check out the American novel "Kelroy", which was written in 1812 by Rebecca Rush. So much was packed into this short novel and the characters (especially Mrs. Hammond, the heroine's mother) won't be easy to forget. Someone should make a video on it.
@sintaspeaks3 жыл бұрын
so happy to see lindsay!!!
@rachaelbao3 жыл бұрын
You're right. It's a missed opportunity that we don't call slash-fic Amateur Amatory.
@Zurpanik2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I saw a few comments here about Lady Murasaki and The Tale of Genji -- I've always considered that the first novel =]
@d-brothers31122 жыл бұрын
"Prostitutes of the Pen" sounds badass
@EyeLean52802 жыл бұрын
LIFE-LONG FEMINIST HERE... The novel was invented in classical Greece. Rome had novels, too. So sorry, no, women didn't invent the novel. And you may not have what it takes to appreciate Don Quixote, but that's your limitation, not the book's.
@bland9876 Жыл бұрын
So the first book ever written was a Harley Quinn novel? Lol
@rockchik6313 жыл бұрын
Lady Murasaki Shikibu in Japan wrote The Tale of Genji in the early 11th century so she beat like everyone to the literary punch.
@BN-ff3nw3 жыл бұрын
A book I haven't seen mentioned here as probably the first novel is Lucian of Samoasata's "A True Story" (2nd century Ad). Pretty interesting stuff with interstellar battles and tribes of fish people living inside a huge whale. The title is programmatic as the story revolves thematically around truth and lies and is thus pretty modern even in that regard.
@emilydowd-arrow37513 жыл бұрын
The best part of teaching the 18th Century! Thanks for making this video 😊. I shall share w my students, EXCEPT Beauplaisir does NOT offer to marry the young lady-he offers to take her baby and pay for it to be brought up by others. She and her mother refuse.
@jamesanthony58743 жыл бұрын
Limited perspective here, but had a thought. You mention Robinson Crusoe and Guliver's Travels as same era works that are still popularly read. Thing is, growing up those were presented (in their edited forms) as children's literature, not something an adult would read. I don't now how common that presentation of them is, but could that be why these other works aren't as well known? What I mean is, Guliver's Travels has the sex scenes snipped out and is prevented as an adventure story for children, and has survived at least in part on that basis. Would these texts have survived a similar treatment?
@totallycrazystudios18013 жыл бұрын
Love the Meg shirt
@jaliyakajakeh4433 жыл бұрын
I study this for the first time last year in English literature. If you love reading and writing as well as English language (you'll be surprised with how interesting languages are) an English degree is the best option.
@raccoontrashpanda14673 жыл бұрын
I love your shirt!
@kevincarbonneau3 жыл бұрын
Love ya Lindsay!
@lukesmith18183 жыл бұрын
maria edgeworth is another amazing satirist. great video
@aditi0132 жыл бұрын
I LOVE her so much!
@drinksanddice95283 жыл бұрын
Don Quixote isn't a novel its a Romance Satire, Francis Burney's, Evelina: Or, The History of a Young Lady's Entrance Into the World is the first novel. Burney uses an epistolary framework (Like Dracula) but its not a mock travelogue/ history like Gulliver's Travels or Tom Jones; its a novel. Amatory fiction was used as examples by contemporaneous periodicals to condemn the consumption of novels by young women but they aren't though of as what we consider novels. They were also used to condemn the French novels, specifically Flaubert's Madame Bovary during his and other vulgarity trails. Also Fanny Burney is badass.
@josephcharpak45333 жыл бұрын
I was expecting references to rip from the headlines law and order and the Dum Dum sound 😀
@golfball53 жыл бұрын
An idea for a future video, inspired by the upcoming "Dune" movie, could be works that imagine humanity in the very, very distant future. Will we return to feudal societies or empirical hierarchies? Will we go the way of "All Tomorrows" and evolve into a collection of vastly different humanoid species? Will our encounters with alien life change everything about what we now consider human nature?
@Nariasan3 жыл бұрын
"Prostitutes of the pen" is the best name ever. I wanna be one of those!
@RadarLakeKosh3 жыл бұрын
I call dibs on "Prostitutes of the Pen" as a band name
@maggyfrog3 жыл бұрын
uhm, isn't the first known novel (the tale of genji) by the japanese lady murasaki shikibu?