I teach communication classes and this is what I teach it: Disinformation- information you know to be untrue but you share anyway to support your goal. Misinformation- information you think is true but is not. Misleading information- information that is technically true but is taken out of context thus can lead to incomplete/inaccurate conclusions.
@sleepypup4 ай бұрын
This was very helpful 🙏🏼 Thank you
@GoldenMechaTiger4 ай бұрын
Ye this seems like the most useful definition of these words. What Mike talked about here was a bit vague
@HealthyDisrespectforAuthority4 ай бұрын
huh.. my own personal definition of dis and misinformation is, truths that are inconvenient to the administration.
@carlabarrick85384 ай бұрын
Thank you for this clear distinction.
@eltooyo24 ай бұрын
Misleading Disinformation: FOXNews.
@terenzo505 ай бұрын
When you need medical information, stay away from politicians.
@user-ec3rm9wr1n5 ай бұрын
That's the truth 😌....
@Seraphim1445 ай бұрын
Or from big pharma. They just want to suck the money out of you.
@justjoddat5 ай бұрын
this is also why politicians shouldn't tell women what they can do with their bodies...especially based on religious beliefs that not everyone even follows
@indianasb595 ай бұрын
Can we please talk about the fact that the mRNA ‘vaccine’ is a RNA modulator and NOTHING at all like the normal vaccines. That’s where the conversation needs to start.
@MMuraseofSandvich5 ай бұрын
What is absolutely infuriating about the whole situation is that a lot of people are lumping in FDA/CDC/NIAID with "politicians", when those agencies are run by career professional scientists and doctors.
@benjaminjohnson41814 ай бұрын
How can we sue politicians when they practice medicine without a license? Serious question.
@robin245124 ай бұрын
The same way we sue insurance companies for deciding what test they will not pay for until you’ve tried XY and Z . AKA practicing medicine without a license. You just can’t. How is it that an insurance person can tell a doctor what they have prescribe, and what tests to run? It’s all about the $$$$$
@klectickate4 ай бұрын
Vote vote vote
@CoolWall014 ай бұрын
The issue is both sides would be able to sue
@MsEagle204 ай бұрын
the problem is they are getting their information from the CDC.
@kellydiver4 ай бұрын
If I knew, I would sue them for making reproductive healthcare decisions for women.
@I_Am_SciCurious4 ай бұрын
There were highly knowledgeable experts in their fields who were muzzled and maliciously, viscously attacked because they didn’t march in lockstep. That’s the antithesis of a scientific approach. Everyone lost their minds and the damage to trust in government and medical institutions is both deserved and profound.
@gribbler16954 ай бұрын
Maybe because they were giving personal opinions unsupported by scientific evidence. Is that how you believe science works?
@I_Am_SciCurious4 ай бұрын
@@gribbler1695 they weren’t giving personal opinions and they were from institutions like Stanford, Yale, and Harvard who we know now for certain had it right. They relied on data from studies conducted in Australia, Japan, Korea, etc. You’re watching a video about things we got wrong. We could have had them correct and done far less damage to children, the economy, and society if we had listened to actual experts who had the data and evidence on their side.
@secretagentrandybeans3644 ай бұрын
Former NBA player John Stockton is currently suing the state of Washington over this exact issue I'm curious what will come out of it.
@husher51424 ай бұрын
@@gribbler1695 No the interference has been swift, calculated and intentionally to cover up or profit.
@ChaoticNeutralMatt4 ай бұрын
@@gribbler1695 let's say that this is the case, they are still licensed doctors or other professionals who should at least be considered. Why are they saying the things they are? Where is that coming from?
@glaubhafieber4 ай бұрын
The swiss ministry of health earned a lot of trust by just answering we don’t know because it’s a new thing. Honest and clear. People mostly listened to the advice. Later turned out that some information was wrong which they admitted. The health minister is retired now but got a standing ovation on his way out. Communication was crucial
@virginiamoss70454 ай бұрын
Switzerland is not America. Their people, like most of Europe, are mostly well-educated and mentally healthy. US government agencies did say "we don't know" nearly every time they made an announcement or "with what we know now". That is what I, an American, heard. If that one third plus of the US population that only wanted to hear what they wanted to hear by only listening to politicians and others wanting to control that segment, then that is on them. They trusted the wrong sources. Then the question becomes: How did America end up with such a large population of sheep? It had to do with the original people who left their homes in Europe to colonize America. Why did they leave? Many did so because they were forced out; they were unwanted in their communities, even criminals. Australia began with Britain emptying out their prisons, shipping them to that new world. Then, like with America, better people came later, but genetics do get passed on.
@augustuslunasol10thapostle3 ай бұрын
@@virginiamoss7045 no, it was cultural the ones who left were fundamentalist Christians
@iamtobler3 ай бұрын
@@virginiamoss7045 Even IF they said 'we don't know' they didn't act like it. They were too quick to mock/attack people who questioned them... They acted too certain many times. About whether to wear masks or not, about how the virus started and where, about how many people were dying. About when regions opened up vs didn't open up, about when schools should open up and how to run them. About what age groups needed boosters and when, about how effective the vaccines and boosters were, about what should be mandated and how, etc etc. They allowed political theatre to enter what should have been purely scientific/medical reasoning...
@virginiamoss70453 ай бұрын
@@iamtobler That simply was not my experience as I followed the development of the pandemic over time. The only political theater came from Trump and some Republicans. If you can't tell the difference, that's on you.
@UCHRKlQ7jqXO73v3TOaUtYeQ3 ай бұрын
70% sind nicht genug, schatz...
@MNbenMN5 ай бұрын
"Stay home if you are sick" means "get suspended without pay, and lose your health care plan" for a lot of people
@yeetyeet70705 ай бұрын
america 💯
@johnnyc08825 ай бұрын
Depends on the company, some companies offer paid sick leave and where I live (which is not a state but a territory) paid sick leave is mandated by law
@yeetyeet70705 ай бұрын
@@johnnyc0882depends on the society you live in, whether it's fully AnCap or whether it has some humanity to itself
@dorothea_walland5 ай бұрын
that is why he said it has to be done in cooperation with companies 🤷♀️ so they also understand they are putting all their staff at risk (and maybe face repercussions)
@clairbear12345 ай бұрын
I think the modified version of this is. If you are sick, wear a mask and wash your hands. This is what Japan has been doing pre pandemic
@dawnfire824 ай бұрын
They weren't 'wrong.' They lied.
@duckman8964 ай бұрын
Yeah this is bothering me, everyone has memoryholed covid guidance as "they were wrong. But at the time didn't know better" when that is literally not the case. They knew better but lied to the public to try and convince everyone to do what they want.
@joshuameeks36893 ай бұрын
That's a loaded accusation. Not saying you're wrong or right. But a wide margin act like they're pros in any field with just a quick internet search or listen to folks talk about any given subject. The only true fact is "we don't know." Saying anything else with such certainties is muddying the waters of an already silted up river and doesn't help. We need to remember to focus on what we know and go from there.
@lady41912 ай бұрын
🐂💩 they lied to make money anybody who denies that now must be on their payroll@@joshuameeks3689
@nelsontragura1441Ай бұрын
@@joshuameeks3689 they only made billions
@ItsJennNotJenny28 күн бұрын
@nelsontragura1441 No, they didn't 😊
@justicedog36963 ай бұрын
So it seems that there's an admission here that the public was lied to to make them comply and then derision and confusion because a faction of the public doesn't trust what is being told to them. That doesn't seem too insightful. The fear mongering was absolutely politically motivated to force compliance.
@TealWolf264 ай бұрын
"I was wrong." Three words that every leader, expert and communicator needs to be humble and brave enough to admit. Sure, admitting weakness makes you vulnerable politically but lying will erode your credibility to your allies and to the people you are trying to help. Without trust, you are nothing.
@jonathanrolfsen46564 ай бұрын
During the pandemic, I followed those who readily admitted when/where they where incorrect, and completely lost respect for anyone who acted infalible in the name of what they called 'science'. Anyone who outright ignores/vilifies dissenting voices is not worth listening to.
@kathleencochrane96984 ай бұрын
Well stated!
@tinydancer73434 ай бұрын
This is exactly why we are in this position. Excellent comment!
@drewchristner37504 ай бұрын
Often most people have no nuance in their opinions so “I was wrong” can mean they think he’s untrustworthy because they have their own bias to their personal abilities. I have been told by people they will trust those who say the same thing through any evidence to the contrary more than those who change their minds with evidence because they perceived it as constantly choosing an incorrect opinion that will always be corrected when more information comes out, and they preferred a static ideology that claimed to already know the answer. It was heavily motivated by religion but that translates that mode of thought to other l aspects of their life like science and politics.
@likwidchris4 ай бұрын
Perhaps more importantly, "I may currently be wrong"
@zadrik13375 ай бұрын
I am a huge fan of vaccination, but I will not abide public officials lying to me "for my own good" or the public good. You must tell the truth or you lose the right to tell me anything at all.
@indianasb595 ай бұрын
Can we please talk about the fact that the mRNA ‘vaccine’ is a RNA modulator and NOTHING at all like the normal vaccines. That’s where the conversation needs to start.
@Kriddle12294 ай бұрын
Well, they can still tell you whatever they want. You just don't have to listen.
@MichaelHorstmann4 ай бұрын
@@Kriddle1229some people would have lost their livelihoods if they didn’t listen, not to mention the social ramifications of being unvaccinated. People were forced in many ways.
@nolancheck14654 ай бұрын
The only public officials I saw lying were those trying to downplay the pandemic and cancel the lockdowns.
@y0urmumislovely4 ай бұрын
I agree. There will always be those who don't listen to reason. Don't bend to them by making up stories. There are (hopefully) far more people who understand at least a bit about how science works and just want to know the data. This whole situation was a mess.
@B1Y1O1B4 ай бұрын
As a nurse educator, I drill my students on medications they are administering before we even walk into the patient's room. It's intense but they often appreciate it because they're more confident when answering patient questions. Thank you for mentioning that confidence from the practitioner plays a key role in the patient's trust.
@mcz42514 ай бұрын
I was bothered by the fact that the Moderna MRNA vaccine didn’t even come with a package insert. I’ve never seen that.
@Afrikanbootiscratcher2 ай бұрын
All the nurses were horrible to just about everyone, when covid was going on. Now they see how stupid it was.
@editname31452 ай бұрын
Please teach them about their ingredients and how much toxic they are. There is still not a doctor that would answer why childhood vaccines have formaldehyde? Polysorbate 80? Plus the amount of aluminum which is 10x more than what the CDC recommends.
@karstelobster8203Ай бұрын
@@editname3145Formaldehyde is used in a lot of processes and is present in our own bodies naturally. We synthesize it and eliminate it without any harm. Polysorbate 80 is used to help deliver and stabilize some vaccines and medications. It’s also used in a lot of foods and cosmetics, so the tiny amount present in a vaccine should be the least of your worries if you consume any processed foods, wear makeup, or use commercially available soaps. Finally, aluminum is present to help enhance the body’s response to certain vaccines. The amount present is insignificant considering the amount of aluminum you are exposed to and ingest on a daily basis. I’m not sure what the concern here is
@MeliXdupraeX15 күн бұрын
@@editname3145I’m confused by your comment. Aluminum salts are used in vaccines to stimulate a stronger immune response. And I have more in my breastmilk each time I feed my baby than in one vaccine. The “10x” is referring to the recommendation for things like parental nutrition (into the stomach) because intestinal mucosa doesn’t absorb aluminum the same way. Polysorbate 80 is in a lot of the food we eat. And formaldehyde makes vaccines effective without causing disease. It’s heavily diluted and already present in your body naturally.
@leslieholland78434 ай бұрын
This podcast is why we need scientists and doctors and other people (hello, media!) who actually have people's best interest at heart. The question is how does one find those professionals? Ideally, it would be social media...
@oliviawolcott83515 ай бұрын
I lost trust when the CDC bowed to political pressure to change their recommendations.
@ms.donaldson25335 ай бұрын
I lost trust when my mother was overly radiated and died at Johns Hopkins in 1987. When my father was paralyzed during a back operation and then died of a bowel obstruction while under the care of Johns Hopkins in 1994. HOWVER, the biggest loss was my son in 1989, two days after a DPT vaccine. They don't educate parents today about the DPT vaccine, but they will recommend a D=tap vax.
@oliviawolcott83515 ай бұрын
@@RandomUserYTisFailing the social distancing recommendations as well as mask recommendations when we still were in a peak.
@MMuraseofSandvich5 ай бұрын
@@RandomUserYTisFailingSpecifically, the recommendations were nerfed at the behest of the Iowa governor and others close to the meat packing industry. Language was softened from "You must do this" to "We recommend that you try for this..." Rachel Maddow was about the only one on TV who covered this.
@Supercharge78685 ай бұрын
@@oliviawolcott8351 and now they are saying that quarantine times should now be seen as the common flu, instead of some world wide deadly disease.
@jaygio5 ай бұрын
@@oliviawolcott8351+ the efficacy percentage + the safe and effective narrative + ” the once and done ” theme + the data regarding masks effectiveness + stance on natural immunity + goal post moving on herd immunity. We can go on and on
@tylergannon73985 ай бұрын
So much of the distrust for me could have been avoided if the CDC simply said “I don’t know” instead of saying that masks 100% do not work at the start of covid then did a complete 180 and told everyone they HAVE to wear a mask then later said, “well they’re not really effective”. By the way take this vaccine we developed and has less than a year worth of testing done and you only need to take it once. Then a year a later “by the way take this seasonally like a flu vaccine”.
@rosalynalicea9685 ай бұрын
You could not have said that any better.
@markrobinowitz84735 ай бұрын
CDC never said you only need it once. Flu vaccines are annual. Most vaccines require more than one dose.
@byuftbl5 ай бұрын
Yeah the flip flopping on telling you what to do can be hard for people to trust. But at the same time I think they were trying to give the best info they had at the time. You don’t know what you don’t know….but they could’ve done a happy medium like “hey we think at this time masks don’t help, BUT we aren’t sure. You could still wear one if you want, we’re just not sure how well it helps” I think overall at the start of the pandemic, we weren’t sure of anything because with anything new, we don’t have all the facts or answers so everyone was going off what we thought we knew at the time, but then we learn we’re wrong or were misunderstanding things.
@georgewang29475 ай бұрын
I think the authorities did say it with appropriate uncertainty. The problem is once it gets repeated through the media and on social media and turns into policies at the local level, what was a "recommendation" becomes "Fauci is forcing us to..."
@HateNeverCeasesHate5 ай бұрын
That's science buddy. Science changes it's mind, based on the available evidence and understanding.
@secretagentrandybeans3644 ай бұрын
I live in Washington state and at the time of writing this former NBA star John Stockton is suing the state Of Washington for silencing any doctor who tried to publish an opinion that the state disagreed with. Not silencing people who were pushing crazy stuff out of a basement I mean silencing practicing doctor's and expert's in the field.
@AjZ530Ай бұрын
Imma pass on this body I'm John Stockton
@danarzechula376915 күн бұрын
Um lots of crazy people with MD after their name
@junkoe1194 ай бұрын
I know someone who works for home and hasn’t left her house since 2020 due to the panic of Covid. This whole thing has damaged people psychologically.
@thewholeworldiswatching4 ай бұрын
Covid (SARS) literally causes brain damage. And it's not gone - look at wastewater data. Sorry you've been fooled by your leaders.
@sathvamp14 ай бұрын
While I've left my house and have done public errands, grocery shopping etc (when I WANT to) since Covid... I haven't WORKED in person since 2020 since for my field personally, most employers discovered in-person work of that type is TOTALLY NOT NECESSARY (for my field... it CAN be all mostly remote / online and still be effective). So... saves a LOT on gas, car repairs, AND unnecessary risk of viruses (including common cold viruses and flu viruses that were around WAY before Covid). So such realization, used in a healthy manner at least... could be considered an improvement).
@TWForeeever4 ай бұрын
Given that it’s a threat and many immunocompromised people have virtually been locked out of society since others won’t mask or actually disclose their illness, do you blame this person? By stating that this is a psychological issue, you’re implying that their fear is disproportionate to the actual threat at hand
@sathvamp14 ай бұрын
@@TWForeeever "Immunocompromised people have been locked out of society since others won't mask"... you do realize [I've heard of] studies showing masks only work about 70% (?). I know that's not any excuse for not taking advantage of that 70% effectiveness, but my my point is: If I was an immunocompromised person who had a low risk tolerance... I would NOT trust that 30% mask INeffectiveness... so even IF EVERYONE "masked up" (and even disclosed their illness IF they knew... this virus VERY often spreads BEFORE symptoms appear FYI)... I would STILL be hiding. In fact, I am not even officially "immunocompromised" and I STILL choose to hide! Well not to an "extreme" but I have gotten out of even long lines at the bank try try again another day if I hear anyone cough in the building. And I've modified my breathing habits when I get near people such that if anyone DOES cough while near me, I'll likely be holding my breath at the moment, and will have time to get away from them.
@ravengale4 ай бұрын
That’s what they want. “You will eat the bugs and live in the pod, have nothing, and be happy”.
@GabrielaSantos-yb5sk4 ай бұрын
I’m a doctor here in Brazil and it was really hard working in the pandemic, in the middle of the “battle field” and seeing so much fake news and unbelievable political decisions that were being taken.
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
Hey you better mask up in your profile pic, or my 98 year old abuelita might croak!
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
Hey did you know Dr. Offit's buddy "Tony" had his wife as his Ethics Chair? Thank God we had the guy from the 1980s AIDS panic to see us through this crisis. 🙄
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
You know what I love about these jokers, they can defend a mandate on US citizens while glossing over the vax status of THOUSANDS of people crossing over the border.... BTW the Measles outbreak was in a Sanctuary city...but they still think US citizens aren't taking enough 💉 🙄 Maybe the medical industry would have more credibility if we didn't see "Tony's" stock portfolio. Public Health = Money Laundering.
@cherriberri83734 ай бұрын
@@beneficent2557 Perfectly proved their point I guess... Yikes.
@itoibo42084 ай бұрын
Next, on Notícias da Raposa: Vaccines are bad, and so is education!
@AmateurChallenged5 ай бұрын
The COVID-19 era was just... _messed. up._ 😵💫
@llamamama29105 ай бұрын
Trump suppressing things to stay in power, everything is fine! Don’t look behind the curtain!! And Biden group awfulizing everything and shutting down commerce and human interaction.
@rsalbreiter5 ай бұрын
John Oliver said the history books should just say "it was a crazy time, had to be there, we tried our best"
@Palzahar5 ай бұрын
@@rsalbreiterProbably the best way to say it. The issue is that this came out of nowhere (well, there was a slight period where it was in China before it went everywhere), and everyone just didn't know what to do.
@indianasb595 ай бұрын
Can we please talk about the fact that the mRNA ‘vaccine’ is a RNA modulator and NOTHING at all like the normal vaccines. That’s where the conversation needs to start.
@lizardsofozz4 ай бұрын
It's still not over. Those of us that are immunocompromised are still fucked. I haven't been to a restaurant, a concert, a venue, the movies, a friends house....since January 2020.
@Red-sm1cl3 ай бұрын
The challenge with blocking misinformation/disinformation is who gets to decide. History has countless cases where the one decenting voice that got called false was true... hand washing during surgery, fat vs sugar, lead gasoline. I think you have to allow it all to be debated and proved/disproved.
@terryvest9062 ай бұрын
True and that's what they didn't do. The history was right and everyone else was wrong
@petrri32322 күн бұрын
Thank you fellow rational human. There are so very few of us. The way to correct misinformation is with correct information, not censorship.
@Mastario2 ай бұрын
What is the logic of mandating a vaccine that did not significantly stop transmission? From the BMJ: Most studies show if you got an infection after vaccination, compared with someone who got an infection without a vaccine, you were pretty much shedding roughly the same amount of virus,” says Paul Hunter, professor in medicine at the University of East Anglia. One study, sponsored by CDC, found “no difference in infectious virus titer between groups” who had been vaccinated and had not. And why mandate a vaccine to everyone, when not everyone's risk/benefit analysis is the same. For example, an 20 yr old man has less to benefit (due to the high frequency of adverse effects compared to other vaccines), than a 70 yr old, were the vaccines provided huge benefits compared to the risks.
@metalpuppet57982 ай бұрын
Almost no vaccine completely stops a disease. That is NOT the point. The point is that it DID absolutely massively reduce severe cases and deaths across people of all ages. THAT was the goal because Covid wrecked all great health care systems. And it worked
@alienatedd2 ай бұрын
@@metalpuppet5798if you actually look at the low data pools they used to acquire this information - and if you look at all the unvaccinated - not infected they pulled from the pool for various reasons, and the vaccinated who got severe covid - that they didnt count and removed from the pool…. you would understand this topic more. im sure you havent actually read the data and full studies that were released…. but maybe you should instead of just believing propaganda
@danarzechula376915 күн бұрын
It has nothing to do with virus shed they were trying to prevent hospitalization and death
@Mastario12 күн бұрын
@@danarzechula3769 (4th attempt, my comments keep getting deleted) Yes, it was about X-mission, the cdc director and f@uci keep repeating that the j@xx stopped x-mission. The media an authorities kept repeating "nobody is safe until everybody is safe". Bad diet and no exercise are the leading causes of heart disease, which is the leading cause of hospitalization and death in the US even higher than co--v--id, yet they don't m@nd@te exercise and good diet because it's an individual's choice if they want to take care of themselves as it does not affect others, just like getting the cov j@xx since you can still spread it, it's about protecting oneself. So, forcing people to take it, had no scientific reason.
@MB-ve2ub5 ай бұрын
I wish people stopped using the terms "my, your" truth. Truth just simply is (or should be), if you need to add adjectives to it it's NOT TRUTH, it's an opinion, point of view!!!
@fennyellis33664 ай бұрын
True...truth is always subjective
@USGrant21st4 ай бұрын
what is truth? - Pontius Pilate
@USGrant21st4 ай бұрын
@@fennyellis3366 truth is not subjective, truth is an abstract notion (abstract logic), and we live in real world, where any abstraction is at best an approximation of reality. Now, which abstraction better approximates reality -- that can be a big argument.
@tamsolo15844 ай бұрын
Subjective "truth" is not truth.
@fennyellis33664 ай бұрын
@@tamsolo1584 In science, it is.
@giga_architect4 ай бұрын
If you want people to trust the medical profession, then maybe don't act like you know more than you do. Also, don't deceive, bribe, coerce, or otherwise manipulate people into doing something that they really do not want to do. Just a thought.
@jordanwhite3524 ай бұрын
But there are a lot of people who know more than you do. It might just be you have an ego problem?
@giga_architect4 ай бұрын
@jordanwhite352 they certainly didn't seem to actually know more than me when they told me initially that a medical product would guarantee that I cannot become infected with a certain infectious disease only for them to have to walk that back a few months later. In fact, that was a pattern I discovered time and time again. Information that I was being given by ostensible professionals and experts turned out to be less than accurate months later. It wouldn't be such a big deal, except for the fact that people's livelihoods, careers, and reputations were destroyed over all of this horrendous advice as government officials ceded their authority to unelected bureaucrats. Also, similarly qualified experts with different advice from that being offered by the "approved" experts were ignored, suppressed, and smeared. There's no excuse for any of this.
@pata-tata5574 ай бұрын
@@jordanwhite352 mate, you want everyone to lay down their rights just because the governmental agencies coercing them might "know more than they do?" Why have any rights at all?
@jordanwhite3524 ай бұрын
@@pata-tata557 and again, this is exactly what the right wing did during age hell before they knew how age was transmitted every conservative Christian promoted and war masks because they're only interested in a disease when it's an interest to their bullshit and not when it actually matters.
@peter65zzfdfh4 ай бұрын
@@pata-tata557 I'm fine with people having their own rights as long as they're not impacting others. That ends when your rights impact my rights. It's the same thing when untrained individuals who *think* they know more than the professionals want everyone else to lay down their rights because of their *rights* which are based on nonsense.
@penguintigerking1024 ай бұрын
This is probably my favorite episode yet. Two really compassionate, educated, and honest individuals. Thanks so much!
@tatlowtimes4 ай бұрын
The inability for government and health organizations to simple say “we don’t know but this is the best options we have based on what we know at this time” has done irreparable damage to science as a whole. We may have won the battle, but we are losing the war. 😢
@Justanotherconsumer4 ай бұрын
The next pandemic will be far, far worse. Not if, but when.
@shakeyj45234 ай бұрын
That's on you for conflating Science and Politics. Stop doing that, and learn how to evaluate research. Simple.
@duncanchestnut55834 ай бұрын
Screeching 'trust the science' then asking politicians to ban science they disagreed with tends to form a lot of distrust
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
@@duncanchestnut5583 mass formation psychosis
@timcowley46464 ай бұрын
I think you are right but I’ve seen the public act poorly when they admit to not knowing and I think this is a reaction to that. People seem to have a lot of misconceptions regarding the certainty of science and the general public often struggle with nuance, even when explained very simply. I think people don’t pay close attention, don’t think deeply, and messages get distorted by the news media. Take for example when the vaccines first came out there were studies that showed the vaccine prevented symptoms. But because they didn’t perform constant tests for viral antigen they weren’t able to say with certainty that they prevented infection. So the scientists said the vaccines are great at preventing symptoms but we do not know yet if it prevents infection. A lot of people took that to mean they don’t prevent infection. So were they wrong to communicate it this way? Should they instead said it prevents infection even though they didn’t know that for version? I wouldn’t suggest that because it’s important to be honest and I think the reason for the messaging was what it was because they wanted people to continue social distancing. Note this was early on when testing was more difficult and the vaccines were more effective and actually dud a decent job preventing infection as they found out with follow up studies of people regularly resting after vaccination to confirm absence of antigen.
@tommcmasters84295 ай бұрын
I am glad you are allowing comments.
@jaygio5 ай бұрын
Oh, so you don't know then...
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@jaygio5 ай бұрын
Too many hot topic words together
@michelleskeens1717Ай бұрын
100%. If the CDC came out and said, "We thought this would work... we now believe this..." would have worked much better on most of the population. Me included. Most humans were intelligent enough to know this was something NEW to our population, so a level of error is expected.
@maskingtablesАй бұрын
Nope. Whenever they admitted mistakes, they would get even bigger backlash from conspiracy theorists.
@dietbuddha4 ай бұрын
Lack of transparency, lack of humility, calling out when youry wrong, all reasons many people pushed back.
@RogerOThornhillАй бұрын
that and "many people" are morons looking looking for any flimsy excuse not to be inconvenienced in any way whatsoever.
@ThePhysicalReaction4 ай бұрын
combining politics and science/medicine doesn't clean up politics, it corrupts science/medicine
@denofpigs25752 ай бұрын
It's ALWAYS been corrupt. For hundreds of years.
@danarzechula376915 күн бұрын
Yep
@dbackscott4 ай бұрын
Taking a larger perspective, I think there are too many people who don’t understand that there’s no such thing as a perfect solution. Everything is risk of harm vs probability of benefit.
@leonardofabbri79304 ай бұрын
If there's no such thing as perfect solution, you can't sell something as undeniable truth and treat anyone who has critical thinking and pose some question as a lunatic deserving to be cancelled and stripped of own social sphere. It's called fascism and was made this time by the supposed progressives always caring about freedoms and rights. They showed their true colours. You are free and you have rights only if you act like they want.
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
The key element is Voluntary Informed Consent, all the mea culpas in the world will NOT make up for Being Complicit in Economic Coercion.
@mellie41744 ай бұрын
Exactly! This is because of poor science education.
@matthewsilva86174 ай бұрын
Well sure, if your goal is profit, then you don’t want to kill the virus, and you just let it mutate and be more contagious yet less deadly. That is what happened yes. Then they turned around and said “speed of science” when they supposedly tested it fully and spent billions of tax dollars funding this circle jerk..not perfect but definitely killing the virus will help stop the spread lol and that’s not what they wanted
@firefly102414 ай бұрын
@@beneficent2557 AGAIN it is consent and there are choices. You not liking the choices or not understanding the choices doesn't mean its not consenting.
@elliem.rr.ss.y136134 ай бұрын
As someone who was part of the COVID-19 vaccine rollout and someone with a master's in public health, I was really frustrated by a lot of CDC's response to COVID-19 (not the actual employees and the amazing work that they did but the people leading CDC). The directors we had were a) not trained in communications and b) were telling people what they thought they wanted to hear.. that doesn't mean this information was unavailable though! everything is on CDC's site including the fact that the vaccine doesn't 100% prevent mild infection and things like that... HOWEVER because that wasn't frequently stated on tv and stuff, that left me and other public health people with the job of explaining to people we vaccinated that no the vaccine really did work even though you got a mild infection.. the vaccine protects you from hospitalization and death... of course these people then felt really surprised and sort of maybe misled... my team and even myself as a person all lost a lot of the trust and respect we had because of directors that made certain choices.. we are still working to get that trust back.
@jorgecarvalho99224 ай бұрын
Hi Dr. Mike, I am a recent graduate who wants to become a certified chemical engineer. I have been watching your videos since the COVID pandemic and I just want to say THANK YOU because have been a huge help to everyone who needs information on health, culture, medicine, myths, etc. I have learned plenty by watching your videos and I was also fact-checked by them on some things I thought I knew. I would like to, in the future, become a KZfaqr who makes videos about industrial processes, more related to chemical production, refineries, oil transformation, and also on safety prevention (CHAZOP, HAZOP, FMEA, risk assessment, etc). Nowadays, with all the incidents occurring in chemical plants and other facilities, the need for medical information is important more than ever. I do not know if my comment will ever be seen, but I would like to know your comments on that (from a medical standpoint). Not only the risks but also the medical causes and effects of said accidents. Thank you!
@LunatheLynxPoint5 ай бұрын
Remember, folks: people matter more than opinions. We’re going to agree and disagree - and that’s okay! Things are going to be said that aren’t perfect - that’s okay too! It’s okay to be human and take something different from this message than someone else. Thanks Dr. Mike for tackling a very sensitive and volatile topic with professionalism and integrity.
@RunBayou5 ай бұрын
It is not okay to agree to disagree when one side is captured by a cult like adherence to government/pharma propaganda. One side is straight lying. If one side is saying "poison your children for no tangible benefit" and the other is saying "no," you don't agree to disagree.
@immafox14964 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm writing here in hope to reach people and Doctor Mike: the comments are being censored and I'm not able to respectfully share my experience. This is really concerning, I trust that Doctor Mike is not aware of this because I know it goes against everything he believes in
@CircumlunarFeasibility4 ай бұрын
@@immafox1496he will stay the propaganda line because he doesnt want to lose his careeer, i warned him about these so called vaccinations years ago and he blew me off. IF you want real information, i suggest you check out Dr. John Campbell, and Brett Weinstein for actual non big government controlled information.
@USGrant21st4 ай бұрын
what do you mean "agree to disagree"? -- KZfaqIsKillingComments, no disagreement allowed
@jaslady224 ай бұрын
@@immafox1496 Yep, mine were taken down, so I noticed that as well!
@Oraanu4 ай бұрын
As a pharmacist, working through the height of COVID was an utterly embarrassing time to be a healthcare worker. The fall out from our government's mishandling of the COVID response ruined more lives than the virus itself.
@usucktoo4 ай бұрын
Typical american. Blame the government. I blame the american jndividualism and selfishness, but go ahead, i guess
@IntelligentProbe4 ай бұрын
Stop it with the fear mongering.
@lindajardee4 ай бұрын
Not fear mongering, truth@@IntelligentProbe
@USGrant21st4 ай бұрын
Just think about it, how many lives would have been saved if they just did nothing?
@IntelligentProbe4 ай бұрын
@@USGrant21st so you didn't watch the video, just more nonsense.
@dharmaslife4 ай бұрын
The trust was already on the block and they will never get it back. How do you communicate it? Stop trying to complicate it! Be direct be honest be transparent
@nolancheck14654 ай бұрын
They are! But doctors and scientists are surrounded by a bubble of politicians and reporters who communicate the doctor's message, and that is where things go wrong.
@augustuslunasol10thapostle3 ай бұрын
Except your Americans are known to go hog wild when a medical institution says “ i dont know” because your general population has sooo many misconceptions about science
@nonobeijing24 күн бұрын
the government doesn't do anything to cut the junk food in the market. This leads to people having a very poor immune system. That should be the priority instead of forcing people to get a jab of a new vaccin untested in the long term.
@twistedpuppetOG5 ай бұрын
To be fair, the Tuskegee experiment still has a lot of impact on trusting government agencies.
@ihatenwo5 ай бұрын
as it should be lol
@nadiamagdalena27125 ай бұрын
I think about it every single time I'm at a doctor's office or my children.
@gloriouslumi5 ай бұрын
Unreasonably. Equating a clandestine government operation during a fundamentally racist era of our history to a once-in-a-generation virus with every single pair of eyes in the world on it is objectively wrong. Doing things in the dark is far different than doing it with literally every single researcher, scientist, doctor, and medical organization in the world collaborating and sharing information.
@WMDistraction5 ай бұрын
The government mandated a whole new set of then unprecedented ethics rules and committees that never existed until then after Tuskegee.
@carrierichardson66195 ай бұрын
@@WMDistractionClearly that did no good.
@courtneyjoe34364 ай бұрын
100% if they had been transparent and not assume we were too dumb to notice some things, I think the state of our country would be very different aside from the COVID related repercussions.
@OrlyVlogtАй бұрын
I dont think he really understands what bodily autonomy means to some people. He argued neatly, but not in a way that will really hit and change the mind of people with that understanding. By not addressing it adequately it will mainly just polarize further.
@Sighing-xo7yt4 ай бұрын
It took long enough for this realization to appear. It will probably take 20 years for trust to be regained. And yet, public health doubles down on compliance (NOT consent) through fear and coercion.
@danielzhang19163 ай бұрын
public health was doing that because people weren't masking and staying home etc, what do they do when half the country was still out and about and getting infected every day, the virus doesn't care about your consent
@denofpigs25752 ай бұрын
People have been arguing against vaccines for well over a hundred years now. Those groups now have an example of the ENTIRE medical establishment enforcing arbitrary and completely made up on the spot rules and standards to throw into the face of anyone arguing with them. What makes you think this distrust is ever going to be fixed. The people whose lives were ruined or otherwise disrupted will likely never forget. If ever, it will take the ENTIRE current living population being replaced for trust to go back to normal. Though I'd hesitate to define "forgetting" as regaining trust. Many people couldn't even say goodbye to their DYING FAMILY. Expect more to be unearthed. It's a looong history.
@5amiannАй бұрын
Meanwhile, kids die. Their parents are vaccinated. The kids can't choose for themselves.
@danarzechula376915 күн бұрын
When the executive branch overreaches 😢
@denofpigs257515 күн бұрын
@@Sighing-xo7yt It will never be regained. The system will collapse before long
@TheSarah894 ай бұрын
Frankly, the more you censor information, the more fearful it will make people. Teach people to think critically and how to combat untrue information.
@rossmackay-williams45834 ай бұрын
Well as a critical thinker why do you think they not reporting all the access deaths world wide of all ages of 10 to 40% not of covid?
@sathvamp14 ай бұрын
Also in the USA, the censoring of any information is a VIOLATION of the law known as the Freedom of Speech.
@MultiChrisjb4 ай бұрын
At least we all got the completely true message that the vaccine is safe and effective, and if you take ivermectin you're a horse.
@shapirodeluxe3 ай бұрын
I wish it was this easy but it isn’t. People can’t be scared of something censorship prevents them from seeing. Fear of the unknown, yes, sure, but if the unknown is a scholarly article then nobody will care. It is also universally agreeable that people should combat untrue information, but who decides what is true? Ironically, it is easy to be uncritical about critical thinking. Things that seem universally good quickly become complicated.
@Bomb6A9Head2 ай бұрын
but then how are you going to control them and make money? lambos won't pay for themselves
@jeannescott22045 ай бұрын
Could the lack of trust in the medical community have anything to do with the fact that pharmaceutical companies are publicly traded on the stock market and raises the concern that their priority is to their shareholders and not the patients. Raising cost of insulin and epi-pen for example.
@evilsharkey89544 ай бұрын
That’s definitely part of it
@coolbreeze56834 ай бұрын
That's part of it. I think distrust also comes from people's individual experiences with the medical system and the experiences of people they know. There are people who get sick and go to a doctor only to be told it's all in their heads and are dismissed. They later find out they actually do have a health problem and they were let down by their doctor.
@deanmcdougall53314 ай бұрын
That’s just an America issue.
@laner.8454 ай бұрын
@@deanmcdougall5331 well yeah, we're talking about America's reaction to the pandemic. It makes sense we're talking about American pharmacology.
@funsizedi884 ай бұрын
Also the fact that since 1986, vaccine manufacturers have been immuine to prosecution. They all decided together and told the govt they would stop making vaccines, unless they passed the law to protect them. Since the US Govt didn't want to risk them following thru on their threat and having to purchase vaccines outside the US, they gave them everything they wanted. Now, why would vaccine manufacturers do that, if they didn't know that their products were dangerous? No other type of medication is protected from prosecution like that. Also, look at how many vaccines were CDC Recommended before 1986 and after 1986, they doubled the amount of shots. Yes, there is a fund set aside for children who are vaccine injured- but it is nearly impossible to actually win that court battle. They only gave into that caveat of the law, since they knew the cost of lawyers was cheaper than paying out lawsuits. It is heartbreaking to read the stories of the families who's children have been severely vaccine injured and continually get denied in court, even tho their children have been diagnosed (sometimes by multiple doctors) as vaccine injured. These manufacturers value money over people, which is why there are meds that cost tens of thousands of dollars a month. An inhaler w/o prescription coverage is $300-$600, even w/insurance people have co-pays in the 100s.
@Rescue22254 ай бұрын
@7:30 “very well tested” in the context that the general public should be reassured that it’s safe even though they are apprehensive about it being new is a bit misleading. Being that it was discovered in the 60’s and 70’s, used in trials in the mid 2000’s, but never given to humans on a wide scale until Covid-19 without knowing the full scope of side effects both short or especially long term is not only irresponsible but alarming and what caused me to pause to question everything. To each their own though
@Afrikanbootiscratcher2 ай бұрын
I lost respect for this guy laying time ago.
@evanr58712 ай бұрын
Well, because it is very well tested. Actually, it’s the most tested vaccine ever. Many traditional vaccines are actual viruses. They have to be bred, manipulated and selected in order to be created. This takes a lot of time. mRNA, on the other hand, is basically printed out. That’s then put into a delivery mechanism made out of fat. Getting rid of that cultivation process saves a TON of time, which is why it seems things went so fast. A basic understanding of biology just shows how ridiculous all of this unease is. mRNA is nothing new, and you’d get many more types of much more harmful mRNA from the virus itself. The COVID vaccines just pick one that’s particularly helpful for immunity and puts it into your system so your immune system can learn.
@casaroli26 күн бұрын
There have been many clinical trials for mRNA vaccines.
@ThisIsY0SE4 ай бұрын
The biggest issue in my opinion was the fact that they decided to give a one-size-fits-all recommendation for the vaccines. People didn't consult their own personal medical professionals and neither did they need to in order to get vaccinated. Instead people went to TV personalities, Late night show hosts, and politicians for their medical health information, not their personal health care providers. I would never have gotten vaccinated from covid if I knew more about these "vaccines". After my second dose of Moderna I was hospitalized for a week because of myocarditis. I would have preferred if they either spread out the doses or lowered the second dose for me (or at least gave different recommendations for different cohorts). I was also required by my university to get vaccinated if I wanted to teach there, so it was either starve, move back in with my parents, or get vaccinated.
@anniesenol98584 ай бұрын
As a member of the public, I appreciate the nuanced message on vaccines. I hate when public health officials act like the public is stupid and can't handle the truth so they tell an untruth instead of explaining why this is their recommendation and how they expect that recommendation to work.
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
You Mean Mandate.... Also opinions are reserved for the Fully-Boosted.
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
I for one love Dr. "Tony" and his Ethics Chair Wife. We should give him the Nobel Peace Prize and a fresh litter of beagles.
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
Hey did you notice how this video has no timestamps? It's almost like this faux "mea culpa" was rushed out at the behest of someone's lawyers 💀 It must be nice to pretend to larp as an authoritative source while simultaneously avoiding all legal accountability.
@CptVein4 ай бұрын
@@beneficent2557 You have a mental issue. You should get that checked out.
@ivermec-tin6664 ай бұрын
Offit is propagating nuanced propaganda. There is no comfort in that. What he is actually doing with his fake apology for nothing in particular is doubling down on the use of social psychology and propaganda tools to move the public, becasue in his view, the public are profoundly ignorant and stupid, and incapable of making rational informed decisions about their personal medical care. So, he is committed to stripping you of your right to bodily autonomy and informed consent. He really hates you, but he hates you in a nuanced way.
@idahojab4 ай бұрын
The answer to your question of how you stop misinformation is not to censor it. We need to teach kids in schools to be critical thinkers. Not just to take what everyone tells you as fact. How to evaluate information and trace it back to sources. Don't take someone's regurgitation of the info as fact. Go as close to the source as possible. If you ban the conversation, it will cause mistrust of those causing the ban. If an organization wants to be trusted, they must tell the truth and over time they will build a trusted image.
@Justanotherconsumer4 ай бұрын
There’s a fascinating report called “The Firehose of Falsehood” put out by RAND. Worth a read. Short version - if people are overloaded with options they will fall back on what their peers want to hear and stop caring about what’s true.
@deanmcdougall53314 ай бұрын
Problem is conspiracy theorists, especially anti-vaxers don’t have the capacity for critical thinking or source assessment.
@cherriberri83734 ай бұрын
This is what I say all the time, but the issue is that it will never happen unless an incredible complete overhaul of how the internet works and the education system as a whole happens. And something needs to happen to give people the free time to pursue knowledge about this- people aren't gonna just stop having opinions about things they don't know about, so they need the time to research info if this ideal future were to come about realistically... so realistically it just won't happen.
@nomandad20004 ай бұрын
It’s a slippery slope. Like his RFK example where 84 kids died and 5500 people got sick with measles.
@CptVein4 ай бұрын
How do you plan on doing that when kids are homeschooled or going to religions school? What's the plan until only kids who were taught critical thinking are left? Cuz right now, there are still a lot of people who arent kids, who do not possess critical thinking and have an effect on others. What about them?
@noshow22Ай бұрын
You suddenly forgot how big of a part you played in that broken medical system. Dont act like the hero now.
@Gee542510 күн бұрын
I stopped watching him during covid because he was pushing nothing but propaganda. Not a doctor I would go to. But, I have recently made my way back to his videos. The guy he's interviewing is a quack too.
@SerenityForschen2 ай бұрын
While covid was over counted it was also undercounted in some areas. This is why when history is written, when the data is deeply researched they will come up with a range.
@SymGenie4 ай бұрын
17:45 I paid close attention to vaccine trials and research, am married to a doctor and have a biomed engineer for a sibling. Most of our extended family came to us for answers and clarification. When we told them the nuances, they looked to the public messaging, especiallythe contradiction of democrats who were questioning how well it was made like Kamela Harris under trump and them immediately switched up under biden. Because of the hard sell and politicization by the gov, they shifted to wondering if they went as far as lying about the data too, so people that were informed would be tricked too. The government failed us from top to bottom during the pandemic. Thats where the loss of trust comes from
@zarbins4 ай бұрын
Thank you for bringing this up as I remember clearly Ms. Harris, Hilary Clinton, AOC, Nancy Pelosi and many other democrats (the party I am affiliated with btw) denouncing the vaccines, the trails, saying it was rushed to market, explicitly not trusting Project Warp Speed all because it was associated with Trump. They were the original political anti-vaxxers and the left leaning media spread that message until Biden was in office and they flipped on a dime. It was reprehensible because they were busy playing politics, during a global pandemic, that many of them profited off of, instead of being there for the people.
@HtheKing3 ай бұрын
So since you know about this what are the effects of the shot that has spread? Good or bad?
@StoryThyme100Ай бұрын
Well said, when you are second guessing the 'data', where does that leave you?
@MsMinoulaАй бұрын
In EU we were only considered vaccinated if we did one of the american/british vaccines. The chinese or russian one didn't count. Our friend worked in a hotel in UAE, and when he returned to EU he had to be vaccinated again to get a covid pass, otherwise he'd be jobless. There was no workaround (eg antibodies testing). How medical is it to impose two vaccinations to someone? if anyone tells me there was any data of the above being safe, I will laugh. Oh, and he signed a waiver. My belief to this day, is that most governments made decisions against public health. The most laughable is giving a "pass" to vaccinated people, although vaccines didn't sterilize you from the virus.
@SleightWryder15 күн бұрын
Nah, take your measles vaccine. Take the majority of vaccines. Don't go off shoring viral research and then try to cover it up with a technology that's been privatized.
@StandAloneState4 ай бұрын
I learned all I needed to know when politicians and celebrities violated the very decrees they publicly shouted from the rooftops.
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
"C'mon man" sayeth pedo Joe.
@polyticks84534 ай бұрын
so, even celebrities cant escape anti-intellectual bias. interesting choice of words, dude
@d-rot4 ай бұрын
That stupid people exist in every cohort? Or that people make stupid mistakes? There's nothing definitive that anyone does that makes a sweeping generalization anything other than a logical fallacy.
@xe20144 ай бұрын
I know what you are saying and agree. “Just look around and you can’t deny” yet I saw no such thing here in the inland empire of California….
@matthewsocoollike4 ай бұрын
That’s stupid. That’s like saying if someone smokes while saying smoking is bad it means smoking isn’t bad. Learn some critical thinking skills
@magamus.decimus.meridius4 ай бұрын
There was a significant amount of politicization of COVID during the pandemic. This is what made people mistrusting of the government and of medical institutions.
@nolancheck14654 ай бұрын
It wasn't doctors who made it political.
@Grizzly_Adams.3 ай бұрын
It was politicians who made it political
@EllePhoenixMC4 ай бұрын
One thing I noticed where I had lived and online was that the political discourse made it extremely hard to have civil conversations and ask questions of peers around you. Almost any hesitancy to take the vaccine or questions about it's safety in children was treated met with social pressure, pushback, and no answers on where to get more information. Of course meeting peoples worries with vitriol only pushed those with questions away and made them more distrusting. Though I did get vaccinated, I was one of those individuals who had a lot of skeptism, and I can greatly empathize with those who were fearful.
@CrustyUgg4 ай бұрын
I did not take the vaccine. I'm so glad I stood my ground. But you're right.. even asking a simple question was met with so much hate from armchair doctors
@jordanwhite3524 ай бұрын
I think the biggest problem with that is that there's a big difference between legit questions about a vaccine and being an antivaxor. The more bigger problem this country which is there is no nuance for discussion. There's only extremes. One of the reasons why most people don't know anything about science because everyone treats all data as absolutes because we learned that from dealing with US law and religious books. So science it does not deal in absolutes but we live in the society that only thinks an absolutes. You either are pro science or anti-vax. You can't be a scientist that has some legitimate concerns about a vaccine then thus wants to see more trials or more clarification. It just doesn't happen.
@TheGismono4 ай бұрын
@@jordanwhite352 -- "legit questions" who is/was the judge on that? mob rule is the answer to that. So no, I don't you understand. People got threat's by the question "Why, explan that to me" and not just following along. And yes, that was what has happening, I happen to me.
@patricasmyth43594 ай бұрын
One thing that should be mentioned is that these were NOT traditional vaccines. They are mRNA drugs that generate an immune response. This was a big experiment practiced on billions of people with little public discussion. People were fired and ostracized for simply asking questions. Now we are hearing of possible bad outcomes of exposure to the spike protein (Pfizer) and these people still cannot admit a possible mistake. They only admit to miscommunication. P.S. The rotavirus vaccine IS a traditional vaccine. It is not in the same class as Pfizer’s “vaccine”.
@aesopstortoise4 ай бұрын
@@jordanwhite352 Your statement that, "there's a big difference between legit questions about a vaccine and being an antivaxor", destroys the possibility of any meaningful, or even civil dialogue with those who disagree with you. Without that you can't have any real nuances, because you don't accept that people who disagree with you may be honest, well-meaning, intelligent and well informed. Try it for a thought experiment.
@lesliewolfe76434 ай бұрын
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Idk who said it, but I agree.
@EinsteinsHair4 ай бұрын
I looked that up thinking it might be Shakespeare, or similar. The French Abbot, Bernard of Clairvaux, said something that translates as "Hell is full of good wishes or desires" in the early 1100s. In 1670 "Hell is paved with good intentions" was a known proverb. The current version was listed in a book of proverbs in 1855.
@lesliewolfe76434 ай бұрын
@@EinsteinsHair interesting 🤔 I like people that actually seek out knowledge, just for the sake of knowing. That's right up my alley. It's funny how many popular sayings end up being a misquote of something else.
@ipickedanamealready69534 ай бұрын
I don't think they had good intentions and that's the real problem. They are already getting ready to roll out a bird flu vaccine in they can get away with it.
@ludaw2975Ай бұрын
Public Health knows really well that to reduce STDs you don't just tell the public "don't have sex", but when it came to covid they used that strategy. So strange
@monicagrorud222514 күн бұрын
I believe it was the fear for older people and they were over cautious on their part.
@pricklycats11 күн бұрын
Only have sex outdoors
@brofenixАй бұрын
:) I appreciate Paul Offit and didn't know about him before this video. I really appreciate how scientifically minded he seems to be and how he tries to note his & others mistakes, and looks to improve himself through those mistakes. Thank you for the mature conversation Mike :)
@letsgoblues214 ай бұрын
Dr. Fauci said to not attend baseball games, wear a a mask, and socially distance. He then promptly went to a game, did not wear a mask, and did not socially distance. It was a horrible look, and there is no question as to why trust is completely gone.
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
IDK, I personally felt reassured when I found out he married his Ethics Chair.
@0my4 ай бұрын
He gets paid royalties
@maddilong1354 ай бұрын
He probably just wanted a better seat and didn’t want to get there early
@mjouwbuis4 ай бұрын
Also he never advised to take a good daily dose of vitamin D (good for immunity in general, and airway infections in particular) but does take it himself.
@mellie41744 ай бұрын
@@mjouwbuisbecause studies show that it gives zero benefit unless you are deficient. In people who already have a normal level, which is most people, it has zero effect!
@calicat19964 ай бұрын
As a nurse who has worked in hospital before during and after covid, i honestly think significantly more people died from not covid itself but its affect on healthcare system (i.e. people who's diagnostic imaging or scopes were delayed several months meanwhile they had aggressive cancer, surgeries being delayed,in patients who had major surgery or illness and could not have family come in and resulted in a failure to thrive leading eventually to death, suicide/drug overdose due to the loneliness/isolation covid caused, decline especially in elderly due to isolation at home, missed signs of things like sepsis due to working extremely short at times(back when if you were exposed you had to isolate, there were times where half our nurses couldnt work because they had to isolate just in case or if they were positive but asymptomatic), patients havingto wait several months to get in to see their doctor even reguarding more serious things where that wait time could have saved them etc etc). All of those in my opinion resulted in a lottt more deaths than the actual virus itself.
@vallivergano2394 ай бұрын
All for a virus that had a 98% survival rate
@kaitlinjohn36254 ай бұрын
Thank you for your efforts In your opinion was there also an over reliance on ventilators and resting which caused COVID patients to continue to decline? I have heard nurses say that with other ventilator patients they were always encouraging position changes and movement etc, keeping the ventilation to the absolute minimum so the body is encouraged to pick itself back up but with COVID apparently many were just ventilated and left to rest. Do you have a perspective on that?
@Dan-xo9ly4 ай бұрын
When you tell any vulnerable person to stay home with a respiratory virus until they cant breathe (aka no early treatment) you a practically guaranteeing they will come close to death's door.
@calicat19964 ай бұрын
@kaitlinjohn3625 generally speaking it can be harder to get someone off a vent once they are put on. If patient can maintain adequate gas exchanges without that would definitely be most ideal. Once you get vented especially if you're already medically frail or have multiple comorbidities it can almost be like a death sentence
@kaitlinjohn36254 ай бұрын
@@calicat1996 that echos a lot of what I heard from others. Some even said that they felt pretty certain they could have worked a patient back to health but because of COVID protocols (like minimum contact/movement etc) they basically came in each day to see the person declining. I can't imagine the heartbreak and stress. I have a friend who was let go from the hospital. She worked to the last minute when they sent her home because she was not certain the vaccine was her best choice. She was only upset because she loved helping her patients. She didn't have any anger or anything. But now I am angry for her. I am angry because I have watched her second guess herself and her value, I have watched her family adjust to the change in income and I have now watched as nurses who are vaccinated have been encouraged to work their shift after testing positive with COVID because of the staff shortages while she is testing negative but not allowed to work because she didn't get the vaccination. She is terrified because her own observations were a massive uptick in miscarriages and stillbirths in people vaccinated. That's anecdotal and personal so I would never expect police or general population changes as a result but I respect her hesitations and her dedication to helping others and I have no respect for rules that left her out of a job while taking a measurably contagious nurse and letting them work because they have been vaccinated. It just doesn't make sense.
@annemarie40084 ай бұрын
Imagine a scenario where a young, healthy individual who has already recovered from Covid is mandated by the state and government-funded institutions to receive two to three vaccines to attend college. This is profoundly unjust, irrespective of one's stance on vaccination. Such a policy is not justifiable and evokes strong feelings of anger. Consider how you would feel if professionals in a different field, such as mechanics advising on car brakes, were to dictate government policy with the same level of chaos and uncertainty as seen with Covid. Would you accept being mandated to drive with your children in a car equipped with new brake technology, despite doubts about its safety and efficacy? The mishandling of the Covid situation, coupled with experts gaslighting the public and shifting blame for their failures, is utterly infuriating.
@AnaLucia-wy2ii4 ай бұрын
Well said 👏 👏 👏 👏
@slopedarmor4 ай бұрын
Are you now getting mad over a imaginary situation?
@augustuslunasol10thapostle3 ай бұрын
Your analogy is bullshit edit it out
@annemarie40083 ай бұрын
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle No 😊
@Afrikanbootiscratcher2 ай бұрын
I got fired from my job . Still not vaccined.
@garyziegler43584 ай бұрын
Vaccine should have never been mandated. If you are healthy your immune system is your best asset.
@donnadrane497728 күн бұрын
Not true. If everyone got vaccinated far less would be sick and it wouldn’t spread like wildfire.
@hedgehogpancakes61745 ай бұрын
I really appreciate Dr. Mike's pragmatism and general ability to understand this topic from multiple angles, he's great
@EC_ATV_Outdoors4 ай бұрын
Maybe you should have some of the Dr's who spoke up and out on the responses and risked their careers by following data over pharma/gov orders.
@firefly102414 ай бұрын
Some of the doctors were crazy AND NOT following the science. Its why some nurses got fired as well as doctors. If your not going to pay attention to the updated science THEN WHY be in the medical field? ANYBODY in the medical field also have to have vaccines every year because they are around patients. ITS NOT new. Even going to college they make sure you are up to date before even getting in the program.
@CrustyUgg4 ай бұрын
What infuriates me is doctors and healthcare professionals and those with common sense and the ability to think critically would say something "they" didn't like, they would be punished and ostracized and silenced and then a few months later "they" would come out saying the same thing...
@jordanwhite3524 ай бұрын
Such as?
@lecherojr4 ай бұрын
@@jordanwhite352are you serious? Here’s some examples; non at risk populations probably don’t need to vaccinate. Exercise and sunlight combined with a healthy diet is probably the best way to prevent severe cases in non at risk populations, social distancing doesn’t make any sense(that ones now been admitted), not allowing people to be with their dying loved ones is cruel and unhelpful, I’m doubtful of the effectiveness of this new vaccine technology, I’m doubtful that I need to vaccinate, I’m doubtful that masks are effective. There are alternative, cheap, readily available treatment regimens that may be very effective for many people.
@flortho24404 ай бұрын
@@jordanwhite352 I've also been waiting for an example but I guess after a week, none is forthcoming. It infuriated ME during Covid that far too many nurses were giving bad advice to people to not get vaccinated and were being listened to due to their title of "healthcare professional". Yes, most lost their jobs but not soon enough and they had far too many supporters. "Healthcare professionals" can be just as stupid as the general public by not following the science to where it leads.
@Bobavakian420694 ай бұрын
The classic moment when you scroll down far enough in the comments section of a covid KZfaq video to start getting the antisemitic dogwhistles
@denofpigs25752 ай бұрын
@@flortho2440That's because generally those examples tend to be flagged and deleted by KZfaq algo. Take it from me. I know about it very well. KZfaq won't let me share. Oh well
@wideeyewanderer17854 ай бұрын
Doctor are supposed to be trained in nurturing patients “autonomy” and not have a “paternalistic approach” approach to patient care. I think transparency by doctors (especially from a government agaency) is king. Great talk y’all
@daveb69634 ай бұрын
"In order to get people to get it, we had to...we made statements that just weren't true"
@notabannedaccount8362Ай бұрын
Doctor Mike supports medically lying to the public?
@shespeex84134 ай бұрын
I think the media and the government need to stop treating the general public as though we cannot understand complex issues. Transparency and honesty are the best ways to help our public be informed and *participate* in the solution.
@jackierubinstein5484 ай бұрын
exactly, who are them to tell us what we should be doing when we know how to take care of ourselves
@BygoneT4 ай бұрын
The public genuinely doesn't understand complex things that's why they don't say thing as they are.
@dharmaslife4 ай бұрын
Yes and I will still make the best personal decision for me thank you very much
@katepeterson75444 ай бұрын
Except the general public does NOT understand complex medical information or this wouldn’t have turned political. It would have ONLY been a public health issue and people would have vaccinated themselves and their families. Instead we had every lay person acting like they understand immunology and pandemics. Thanks to politicians….
@viktorgabriel25543 ай бұрын
@@BygoneT so you are saying you are stupid in Northern America since my government told us everything
@CrustyUgg4 ай бұрын
Remember when they tried getting people to get vaccinated by offering free cheeseburgers? Exercise would have been a good recommendation before they even rolled out the vaccines. "It was observed that physical exercise could be a protection factor against the disease in the majority of studies. This protective factor was related to cases of death, improved lung function, and reduced symptoms of the disease." But no. We banned people from even going outside even though it was nearly impossible to spread outdoors. We instead offered them greasy cheeseburgers.
@AnaLucia-wy2ii4 ай бұрын
But they closed gyms, playgrounds, parks and beaches. Where I live, they put caution tape around playgrounds equipment and boarded up the basketball hoops.
@farahng28674 ай бұрын
In my area, they gave out COVID testing kits at liquor stores! As if depression and addiction wasn’t bad enough during the pandemic…
@TWForeeever4 ай бұрын
What are you even quoting or referencing?
@AnaLucia-wy2ii4 ай бұрын
@@TWForeeever What is unclear in these examples?
@southendbos4 ай бұрын
You’ve met Americans, haven't you? With the rampant, morbid obesity, do you think they were going to exercise? Further, with all of the comorbidities, beginning to even just walk at that point would have done nothing.
@thewillisfine3 ай бұрын
This guy is the exact reason we don’t have trust. Completely rewriting history and ignoring the corruption of the system.
@elaboratus3 ай бұрын
what did he do?
@Afrikanbootiscratcher2 ай бұрын
@elaboratus Gave the go ahead for the vaccine, which we see it's destruction.
@TeeganLee5 ай бұрын
26:14 I wish air quality had been pushed harder. Improved air quality in public spaces would have been a net good in a bunch of different ways and it wouldn’t have infringed on anyone’s bodily autonomy. If we’d put air purifiers in every classroom so schools would stay open that would probably have helped lower rates of all respiratory infections and would help with the (increasingly regular) wildfire smoke pollution. Heck if done right it could have even been great for the economy!
@meghanlazerson9974 ай бұрын
It was and is in Germany. My kid’s classroom has a monitor and they frequently open the windows. I’m at the university and windows were opened for 5-15 minutes every hour (yes even in the winter).
@donotcare3304 ай бұрын
100% agree. We ran UV air cleaners around the clock at our house. Public spaces should have been REQUIRED to of had UV air purifiers every X amount of square feet.
@rl423824 ай бұрын
My kids are in private school and put air purifier every where they reopened school in fall 2020 to get students back to school
@leighfei4 ай бұрын
@@rl42382 My law school also redid the entire air filtration system before fall 2020
@julesc16654 ай бұрын
So true
@TanyaSapienVintage5 ай бұрын
I disagree with many of the points that were made here, but I am grateful to see them being discussed in a logical manner and with an appreciation for why the pushback happened which isn't laced with hysterics and insults. This is a major step towards understanding and mending the rift that abuses of power like the pandemic created.
@sepehrheidari83524 ай бұрын
What is it you disagree with
@TanyaSapienVintage4 ай бұрын
@@sepehrheidari8352 That's bait.
@pata-tata5574 ай бұрын
@@TanyaSapienVintage only if you want it to be. Looks like an honest question to me
@pauloariente4 ай бұрын
At least here in Brazil (a country which copied the US very closely, like a child imitating a cartoon), the distrust began when the government started mandating things. Brazilians love vaccines, we're one of the most vaccinated countries out there. However, people were fleeing the covid19 vaccine because it was forced upon them, which reinforces the idea that "Good ideas don't require force".
@CapitalWorksPro4 ай бұрын
The only way to debate someone who wants to muddy the waters with tons of garbage points is to only agree to the debate if you can dictate the pace. You then need to debunk each of their points. It's a lot of work to maybe change a few viewers' minds at best.
@musicsucks58435 ай бұрын
Oh these comments gonna get spicy. Grab the popcorn 🍿
@Doge-kq7bc5 ай бұрын
First and Fr
@A_Fabulous_Killjoy5 ай бұрын
True. 🍿
@georgiasomething20645 ай бұрын
Not me actually eating popcorn rn
@RideforZeke5 ай бұрын
Real tho
@Lyn_Marie_5 ай бұрын
I’m SO ready !🍿🍿I’m also hungry.
@TexasChoadHouse694 ай бұрын
I didnt get to say goodbye to my father while he was dying from cancer during the height of covid. They government can never give me that back.
@SternalJet4 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear brother. That certainly could not have been easy.. hope you are well.
@TexasChoadHouse694 ай бұрын
@@SternalJet I've been doing but I don't think I'll ever not feel incomplete due to them taking that away from me.
@E_Don4 ай бұрын
@@TexasChoadHouse69who is "them?" Define.
@TexasChoadHouse694 ай бұрын
@@E_Don the people who made the rules in the state of New York that said I couldn't enter the hospital as my father was dying and threatened to arrest me had I tried.
@gomezg84974 ай бұрын
I hope your pain goes away. Everyone is gonna die some we will die and nevee get to tell by to our loved ones and some will die with their loved ones right beside them. Regardless of whar your faith was, do good at regards of ur dad. Donate in regards of ur dad, pray if u believe. Thats gonna benefit him more.
@tutacat4 ай бұрын
Trust takes forever to build, and it's gone in an instant
@Grizzly_Adams.3 ай бұрын
It was gone at the moment our patience is running thin.
@flatlinejones6814 ай бұрын
Dr. Mike just lost all credibility with me. What a soft pandering interview. "Mistakes were made"🙄 Try "we lied, we ignored common sense, we didn't require the basic tests that we should have, this was all about the money"
@sivaseelansivapalan89374 ай бұрын
Dr Offit is a rare voice of balance, reason and equanimity on this. I wish he could have been heard more during the midst of the pandemic.
@tomhalla4265 ай бұрын
Public health has always treated its audience as idiots. They never trusted their audience with the strict truth, and tried to suppress disagreements with their narrative rather than holding an open discussion. They never tried reporting real science, which amounts to as much information as possible. They only acted on behavior change, not education.
@kekort25 ай бұрын
💯
@ms.donaldson25335 ай бұрын
Public Health was CREATED at Johns Hopkins in 1917 by Rockefeller funding and then again in Jerusalem in 1918. Johns Hopkins is still a "Public Hospital" meaning you do NOT need insurance to be treated and they have financial assistance that ranges from free to low-cost health. ELIMINATING every NATURAL born bloodstream in the world.
@labtechtech5 ай бұрын
"Public health has always treated its audience as idiots" Well? Were they proven wrong? 😂
@Johnnyiswhere5 ай бұрын
@@labtechtechexactly.
@X_iCjay5 ай бұрын
Same point my point exactly
@Seraphim1445 ай бұрын
I swear, the Covid-19 era was just felt like a multi-year long fever dream….or acid trip.
@tdssupport50644 ай бұрын
"was"? a third of the country just got it in Dec-Feb.
@schex94 ай бұрын
Felt like I was living in Nazi Germany
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
I shook Covid off after a long weekend. (Assuming the stupid PSA test was accurate).
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
@@schex9 at least the trains ran on time. These jokers can't do anything.
@beefstu844 ай бұрын
@@schex9 I must have missed the part when people were rounded up and executed?
@anae20184 ай бұрын
98% of the comments under this video are saying things that would have been censored and/or harshly criticized during the pandemic by the government, media, and social media platforms. That right there is a huge reason why trust was lost.
@Gal.pal.4 ай бұрын
YES
@Gal.pal.4 ай бұрын
Never forget, it was becoming totalitarian
@lw1zfog3 ай бұрын
no amnesty no quarter
@MrGreen-fi5sg3 ай бұрын
We knew you were wrong and you ridiculed us. Never forgive never forget. 😠
@phylippezimmermannpaquin20622 ай бұрын
He wasnt wrong. You were saying dumb things without actual evidence. A broken clock is right twice a day
@MrGreen-fi5sg2 ай бұрын
@@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 Did you even pay attention what's been going on in the past years?
@MrGreen-fi5sg2 ай бұрын
@@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 Literally everything they told us was wrong! Accept it.
@phylippezimmermannpaquin20622 ай бұрын
@@MrGreen-fi5sg such as? Also, did you mean accept?
@phylippezimmermannpaquin20622 ай бұрын
@@MrGreen-fi5sg no i just arrived on earth. It was raining that day
@sydneyyoung73525 ай бұрын
I think they were talking specifically about the Covid vaccine when they said all the other countries except Canada target high-risk groups, but as a Canadian I just wanted to mention: Our annual flu vaccines used to be targetted to high risk groups, I think partly because we didnt have the volume of vaccines, or the capacity to administer them, to the full population. With Covid, in BC at least, our vaccines were rolled out to high-risk people _first_ as a priority, but were ultimately made available to everyone.
@kdn1424 ай бұрын
I think you spelled ‘mandated’ wrong.
@sydneyyoung73524 ай бұрын
@@kdn142 People could choose not to get them, but they were not permitted to be in businesses where other people would be exposed to them, even if the business was their workplace. I think it could reasonably be argued that it was effectively mandatory, but if I recall correctly it was never _technically_ mandatory.
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
I love how you froze the bank accounts of truck drivers. Your Fidelito PM is an inspiration to the world.
@beneficent25574 ай бұрын
@@sydneyyoung7352 at least most authoritarian regimes like Russia have the balls to be overt with their heavy-handed policies. I knew a PHD student who was failed in retaliation for refusing to get the vaccine. One of his professors threatened to punch out anyone who watched jordan peterson in his classroom. Your effete government's constant victimhood cudgel is pathetic. Trudeau belongs in prison.
@sydneyyoung73524 ай бұрын
@@beneficent2557 first: I don't have that kind of power. The Canadian federal government froze the back accounts of 57 individuals and organizations, some of whom were truckers, to end blockades at Canadian border crossings and the gridlock of parked commercial trucks and trailers shutting down part of Ottawa (for I think over two weeks?) That sounds like a very non-violent way to pressure the convoy to disperse, to me. The protesting truckers did not have to get vaccinated, but there were very disruptive public safety measures they had to comply with if they refused, which would have made it impossible to do the exact same job in the exact same way they had pre-pandemic. While Canadians had some privileges taken away during the pandemic in the interest of public health, adults do have bodily autonomy and may refuse vaccines.
@Dan-xo9ly4 ай бұрын
All you need to know about the pandemic is who made out with the most money. That will give you almost all the answers you need to understand it.
@amyalewine4 ай бұрын
Dr. mike never mentions Event 201. He never mentions the WBAN. He never mentions Covid symptoms are the same as radiation sickness.
@lindazeisky38454 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@user-dd3gl4rl9q4 ай бұрын
For a novel virus you need a novel way to launder taxpayer $$.
@user-ul2wl9ss5x4 ай бұрын
Yes. Follow the money and find the truth.
@Nathanielhiggerson664 ай бұрын
You mean the people who told you vitamin C or other ”natural” bs would cure it? they made a f-ton of money scamming and spreading disinformation
@CrAAAstastic4 ай бұрын
Did he say there were 12 groups out there that were better funded and able to get information out than the federal government? Or did I misunderstand that statement. (Which I am willing to believe). Why do people struggle to understand that forcing people to do anything is the best way to get people to lose trust?
@gribbler16954 ай бұрын
He was talking about the so-called disinformation dozen, RFK Jr being one of them.
@CrAAAstastic4 ай бұрын
@@gribbler1695 and they are better funded than the federal government? I don't necessarily care who was being spoken about but rather the phrase "better funded and able to get information out" ... I just don't understand how any group could be claimed to be better funded than the US gov't who literally controls what information could even be seen during the pandemic (and has had to backtrack on a lot of said "misinformation")
@gribbler16954 ай бұрын
@@CrAAAstastic Are you kidding me? The govt has no control over the garbage that is put on social media and fake news sites, which are responsible for a huge amount of false and damaging information that still stacks up.
@ipickedanamealready69534 ай бұрын
They definitely weren't better funded. Most of them lost money or carrer opportunities because they were doing what they believed to be the right thing. Which was to warn people about the harms they were seeing and what they found in the Pfizer vax trials. The trial info that they had to sue for because the fda didn't want the results getting out for 75 years. Sounds super safe and effective if you ask me
@Grizzly_Adams.3 ай бұрын
@@gribbler1695disinformation dozen, MSNBC, CNN, Fox news and other newspapers?
@chrisrosillo4 ай бұрын
Can you please follow up with a short on what myocarditis is, and why it happens as a result of virus’ & vaccines please? Thanks :)
@gribbler16954 ай бұрын
Myocarditis is cardiac tissue inflammation, and we don't truly understand the mechanisms of this after mRNA vaccination. But analysis suggests it is due to an overproduction of cytokines by the immune system. It is not dependent on antigens (vaccine spike proteins) that is being pushed by miscreants.
@sekischro50934 ай бұрын
@@gribbler1695 does it cause long covid?
@rossmackay-williams45834 ай бұрын
@@gribbler1695 Why are you not talking about all the access deaths all over the world of all ages that are not being reported. Access death of 10 to 40% more than normal....why are youu not talking about this??
@Grizzly_Adams.3 ай бұрын
He can't because his channel would be cancelled.
@EmilyDme3 ай бұрын
@@sekischro5093the vaccine? Yes
@iPsychlops4 ай бұрын
Honestly it's really frustrating that "go back to work" is prioritized in a country that doesn't have free healthcare and where employers are predatory toward their employees. Go back to work when you're actually feeling better. It took me a month to get over COVID the second time. I'm still coughing. If I had to be driving to work it would have taken longer.
@sathvamp14 ай бұрын
Actually... SO many people do NOT realize that healthcare is NEVER overall "FREE". Even where "healthcare ITSELF" seems "free", it is STILL COSTING those, even SAME, people, either money from their OTHER sources (like upfront out of their paychecks)... OR it's costing OTHER people money even if it's not costing money for certain people. SOME such people do realize that, BUT I always wish to clarify the semantics so they don't forget how things actually work.
@aaronpascall78274 ай бұрын
Were you 'vaccinated'?
@peter65zzfdfh4 ай бұрын
@sathvamp1 I don't think you realize how misled you are. For instance, the US spends more TAXPAYER money per person on healthcare than any other country. People THEN spend more employer money on healthcare than any other country, and still in many cases have higher deductibles than any other country. While countries with heavily socialized healthcare result in people seeking treatment *earlier*, when it's *cheaper*, and negotiating better rates with pharmaceutical companies so they pay less total for the medication. So overall FREE doesn't mean completely free, but it does frequently result in substantially LESS money being spent, even by the taxpayer, and results in life expectancies nearly 10 years longer than the US where it costs more than any other country in the world, at all levels. It's not a case of just shifting the cost from the individual to the taxpayer, it's actually just cheaper (for literally EVERYONE) AND more effective. The lack of 'free' healthcare in the US for many people actually results in more of other people's money being spent on emergency care that need not have even been an emergency if those people had access to healthcare earlier. The private system also results in people paying more just in deductibles for the same medications vs other systems where the taxpayer pays it all at a much much lower rate..
@Nicogs4 ай бұрын
Le me guess you are living in an third world country? Like what did u expect?
@sathvamp14 ай бұрын
@@Nicogs Uuuhhhh actually I assumed he was talking about the USA (I live there).
@NeuroJ124 ай бұрын
I lost all respect when anyone with a different view on the vaccine, meaning didn’t think it was safe or effective, was not only disregarded but was shunned, canceled, and their job was in some cases taken from them.
@yuliapanina88154 ай бұрын
Yes!!!! Yes!!! I still can't publish my data on "safe and effective", they just return my manuscript saying "it is out of scope for this journal" etc.... 😢
@terryvest9062 ай бұрын
You do know who owns the medical journals ....... just saying
@joebar524 ай бұрын
I’m sure calling names and threatening people who were on the fence about getting vaccinated or not was a winning strategy too.
@dancolon474 ай бұрын
Frankly, I started to have serious doubts about what the government was advising around June 2020 during the BLM Riots ... when rioters seemed to be given a pass on masks and the 6-foot rule by the politicians and the media. I am not an Anti-vaxxer ... but I have serious questions about how the Covid vaccine was created and deliberate downplaying of its side effects by the politicians and media.
@jonny5553334 ай бұрын
I mean, the side effects are relatively rare and minor compared to the side effects of covid. Without a doubt, the benefits of the vaccine outweighed the risks.
@danielzhang19163 ай бұрын
I had no reaction to both shots, just a little soreness, took a nap and was fine, I read comments online that some people were out for days, but I didn't feel anything, many family and friends had no reaction either
@michaelhoffman44545 ай бұрын
That was a phenomenal conversation to watch, especially as a medical student. Terrific display of understanding nuance in medicine and giving advice on conveying important health measures to the public despite ever-changing data. I loved every second of it!
@drinkmorecareless5 ай бұрын
I almost died from COVID in 2021, so this was a very interesting video. Glad to see Dr. Mike having a real conversation about it.
@yensteel5 ай бұрын
Two of my colleagues had their parents die as soon as they caught it. They could have retired and lived a few more decades.
@vampiric4real4 ай бұрын
bahahahaha no you didn't
@danusdragonfly66404 ай бұрын
@@vampiric4realSo COVID is not real to you but *vampires* are?
@astawolfe4 ай бұрын
@@danusdragonfly6640 they're a troll, ignore them
@journeywithnichole4 ай бұрын
Curious if you received any vaccines?
@jseon874 ай бұрын
Doctor Mike, could you please explain why our cold and flu lasting so long. I’ve been sick for over a month. I not able to kick this out of my system. I know I’m not alone and many of us have been suffering from being so sick for so long.
@DavidKeith-qr4ro2 ай бұрын
Offit is on the "Go to prison" list.
@xADDxDaDealer4 ай бұрын
Saying this is the most tested ever isn't really accurate.... maybe in short term, but its long term effects that we have no way of knowing and that is what worries people.
@AS-kq7hw4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was kind of an odd statement, since the reason it is so "well tested" is because it was a vaccine that the entire population was mandated to receive...so its "well tested" now. It will be interesting to see what the next 10 years or so shows us, both in terms of the disease and its evolution as well as any effects of the vaccine campaign.
@RoyalRadiantJade4 ай бұрын
We will never truly know the side effects of dormant covid viruses in our system until we get more statistics and data. The vaccine technology itself has been long tested and safe but the covid varient.... is not. Just like how chickenpox can stay dormant until you're old and turn into shingles! But doesn't negate the effectiveness or usefulness of the vaccine at the current moment. Only time will tell... I would rather have a vaccine than to deal with another outbreak of infectious diseases which keeps coming back due to anti vaxxers.
@kevinshane25684 ай бұрын
@@AS-kq7hw they will def have to be strict on the test group people who never got covid vs people who got Covid but never got vaccinated vs people who got vaccinated but never got Covid vs people who got vaccinated and still got Covid and that would be hard to do I think
@KMx1084 ай бұрын
@@SaltNBatterywell said. I'm still listening to the video but wonder if your observation will be addressed. You certainly aren't the only one with this experience.
@hamstrung224 ай бұрын
@@KMx108 They did address this. Very small % had myocarditis as a complication from the vaccine. Massively higher % had it due to damage from the covid infection itself. It's a time stamped section. People aren't going to believe the science anyway, but this has to be one of the most unbiased and purely scientific takes on the subject I've seen.
@Suelynngrr4 ай бұрын
Seems to me someone is lying here!
@Grizzly_Adams.3 ай бұрын
Yeah
@LadyOfRain14 ай бұрын
BIG difference between informed consent and informed choice!
@axellesaupek99214 ай бұрын
I really think both of you should debate the other side, refusing to do so, while the other side seems eager to do so, does no favors for your arguments. Debate is a fundamental part of the scientific process, if strong, valid, non-partial scientific studies exist to back up your view, why be afraid to debate?
@nolancheck14654 ай бұрын
Studies and research are a fundamental part of the scientific process. Debates are just entertainment.
@Grizzly_Adams.3 ай бұрын
Because they can't debate the truth
@GagnierA5 ай бұрын
I learned more in the first 20 minutes of this video than in the last 4 years. I can't believe this is 2 hours. Fantastic interview!
@hackerkiller21315 ай бұрын
That’s the beauty of looking back.
@mimosveta5 ай бұрын
go back to cia basement troll
@BombshElle_74 ай бұрын
@@hackerkiller2131Facts
@triciacofman47164 ай бұрын
Don’t believe everything said in this interview.
@GagnierA4 ай бұрын
@@triciacofman4716 Care to elaborate?
@GetOutsideYourself5 ай бұрын
Paul Offit is the real deal. You couldn't have a better guest on this subject.
@gamerbrat8855 ай бұрын
unless you are talking about cigarettes lol
@jmt39965 ай бұрын
@gamerbrat885 what's his stance on cigarettes? I couldn't find any articles/videos with him talking about them.
@bosoxdanc15 ай бұрын
?@@gamerbrat885
@jiaswan225 ай бұрын
@@gamerbrat885are you mistaking Dr. Offit with Dr. Gundry? They have a passing resemblance, but totally different people.
@alynunez44215 ай бұрын
@jiaswan22 I agree! He does look similar to Dr Gundry BUT Dr Gundry is a quack! The interview he did with Dr Mike & Dr Ballardo (sp?) was so difficult to watch. Dr Mike & Dr B were so Patient even though we were all thinking the same thing (that he is full of 💩 basically & just trying to sell books). Dr Offit is totally opposite! He’s very science based!
@freddycantillo19932 ай бұрын
I love Dr.mike ❤❤
@user-ol7tl1vf5mАй бұрын
COVID appears to me as an event designed to extend the life of fiat currencies a little longer.
@seanmahoney26715 ай бұрын
If you think people who were seeing it in front of them couldn't deny it then you haven't really been seeing what is going on. I volunteer as a firefighter emt in a rural red county. Other EMTs who were picking up and transporting people who were dying and died of COVID were absolutely still denying that it was going on. Their other arguments as to what it was were non-sensical or even just outright contradictory. They would recognize the 'covid cough' and then upon hearing their neighbor they transported died deny it was COVID. They SAW it, but the media they consumed and the politicians telling them were trusted more than their own eyes.
@missZoey53875 ай бұрын
Exactly
@belfieldsucks5 ай бұрын
incredible... just wow, how can someone not trust their own eyes.
@Jkjoannaki4 ай бұрын
Yeap, pretty much. Always been thay way, especially since 2001
@kathleen80924 ай бұрын
So many wild deaths in ICU. Denial until the end. On Bipap, refusing intubation, gone by dinner. Almost once a week for a couple months.
@evilsharkey89544 ай бұрын
@@belfieldsucksBecause they trust their favorite pundit, politician, talk radio host, etc. more.