The Undeniable Potential of The Last of Us Part III

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The Thought Project

The Thought Project

Күн бұрын

After a relatively ambiguous ending to The Last of Us Part II, a sequel game seems all but inevitable in order to finish the trilogy. It has the potential to wrap up the story and solidify itself as one of the greatest franchises in gaming history. Here are some of my thoughts and predictions of what Part III might be about. This will probably be my final video essay on The Last of Us for a while, unless I can come up with a compelling topic for another and you guys really want to see more. With all that said, I hope you all enjoy, and feel free to leave a like, comment, and subscribe!
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
03:07 The Story
15:56 Outro
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@brendanyasuk8483
@brendanyasuk8483 Жыл бұрын
dude seriously yet casually plotted out an entire video game plot and story. GOAT
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
@danieldominguez2419
@danieldominguez2419 10 ай бұрын
​@@thoughtproject dude, I really hope TLOU3 follows atleast a bit of your idea, it was amazing.
@WindowTapper
@WindowTapper 8 ай бұрын
I’m crying,this is BEAUTIFUL. If the third game happened like this word for word I would be satisfied
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad you feel that way!
@starkishathebisha
@starkishathebisha 11 ай бұрын
I’d love to see Ellie heal. She deserves the life Joel wanted for her
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Without a doubt.
@SimSlim.
@SimSlim. Жыл бұрын
Your story was actually really good, and the watch ticking at the end actually gave me goosebumps. That was really fun to listen to. Well done man!
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thanks man!
@Audinnnary
@Audinnnary 8 ай бұрын
We need to get Naughty Dog’s attention on these videos I’ve seen at least 3 that would give part 3 the accolade of being one of the best if not the best game of all time.
@animalcrossingenjoyer
@animalcrossingenjoyer 8 ай бұрын
@@Audinnnarydefinitely. I can see TLOU3 topping the first game if done correctly
@SolarEclipseOrio29
@SolarEclipseOrio29 8 ай бұрын
I agree with the watch so much
@RobertxRisingWolfTVx
@RobertxRisingWolfTVx 6 ай бұрын
i agree your story makes alot of sense
@jamescarr1265
@jamescarr1265 Жыл бұрын
I’d also love for Ellie to slowly start becoming herself again as the story continues. How long would you like the game to be? And what new gameplay mechanic would you add?
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
Ideally, it should be longer than Part I, but shorter than Part II. I'd rather it be a 18-20 hour quality story, rather than a 25-30 hour story with redundant action set pieces. As far as new mechanics, the ability to switch between Ellie, Tommy, Abby, and Lev during the final battle would be a really cool idea to implement imo. Other than that, I'm leaving the rest up to Naughty Dog!
@jamescarr1265
@jamescarr1265 Жыл бұрын
@@thoughtproject that would be great, i’d also love for implementation of being able to hide dead bodies after killing them.
@dusteedawg2915
@dusteedawg2915 11 ай бұрын
She CAN'T they EFFIN ruined her. They made two toooootally different characters and JUST thought ah they're STUPID ENOUGH to buy it........ And anyone willing to fall for it in a part three you're a MORON
@dusteedawg2915
@dusteedawg2915 11 ай бұрын
@@thoughtproject pfffft you'll be disappointed leave ANYTHING up to THEM...... Wish so bad I coulda got my money back
@dmaxwell910901
@dmaxwell910901 11 ай бұрын
​@@dusteedawg2915Cope
@fabianamartinez9942
@fabianamartinez9942 7 ай бұрын
I really think Abby really was just human, and caught in the same cycle of violence as anybody else. She mirrors both Joel and Ellie, and is so much more complex than some people realize Loved the video !! A third game would be so wonderful. And healing being the main theme would just be perfect
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 7 ай бұрын
Totally agree, and I'm glad you enjoyed!!
@SuperbowlJoel
@SuperbowlJoel 5 ай бұрын
I very much agree. The Abby haters are most likely chuds who still live in their parents' basement with a stunted worldview and a stunted perspective on human relationships and mental health.
@geraltvonriva9873
@geraltvonriva9873 3 ай бұрын
If she mirrors them why even bringing a new character in with the exact same flaws? 😂 why would anyone do that? Just move on with the beloved characters. We all have flaws it's ok.
@SuperbowlJoel
@SuperbowlJoel 3 ай бұрын
@@geraltvonriva9873 you realize the entire sequel was based on following up on exactly how the first game ended, right? It makes perfect sense. Abby's experiences and actions, although similar to Ellie and Joel's, are also very different. I actually preferred Abby's character over Ellie's in the sequel and hope they continue with her as a main character moving forward.
@geraltvonriva9873
@geraltvonriva9873 3 ай бұрын
@@SuperbowlJoel Maybe I don't care anyway because after the second one I couldn't care less. 😂
@allisonasaro3815
@allisonasaro3815 Жыл бұрын
I would hate for Dinah and Ellie to get back together though. Dinah is too good for her, and Ellie got what she deserved for leaving her for revenge
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
True, I don't think they'd ever fully get back together tbh. Maybe just return as friends
@TheSadMusician
@TheSadMusician Жыл бұрын
Wouldnt say “too good” more of a, different way of living Its like ellie is from an Action Movie, and Dinah from a Light Hearted Comedy
@jamescarr1265
@jamescarr1265 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSadMusician true true
@treyvoyles6091
@treyvoyles6091 Жыл бұрын
I like this story
@TicTacPilgrim
@TicTacPilgrim Жыл бұрын
I get the idea the 3rd one will show their relationship on a long road to recovery and there are things that can't be taken back. But there may be a lingering love for Ellie from Dinha but she'll decide what's best of AJ
@laurenjulia1877
@laurenjulia1877 11 ай бұрын
I know most people hate the idea that dina would take Ellie back but I think that’s the only thing that makes sense for Dina. Before they got together, we saw how Dina was the kind of girl that would go from person to person, looking for attention and her and Jessie being on and off (probably because Dina would get bored and start a fight lol) but finding actual love with Ellie changes Dina. The need for validation is satiated because Ellie and her can have moments of pure love and affection. But at the farm there was still Ellie’s pain and heartbreak for the time she lost with Joel between them, keeping them from truly being happy. I think it only makes sense that Dina couldn’t go back to Jackson and just go back to her old ways. I think she’d have been waiting for Ellie to come back whether she wanted to or not. I just can’t see Dina being able to move on fast the way she could in the past. I could see them being a bit like Tess and Joel, where they aren’t a romantic unit in public all the time but they are a family in their own way. I could see them living in Jackson together but that Ellie has a separate place she goes when she’s not doing great and needs time alone. I believe that leaves room for both their individual needs in their relationship, building on what we saw Joel living like in part 1. Most people think Ellie deserves to be a lonely aging loser living alone with the anguish of her decisions for the rest of time but I just don’t think that makes sense for the meaning of her letting Abby go alive. Ellie saw many people come and go from her life and this world, I can’t imagine she’d go on in life letting time and pain steal the family she built with Dina.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Valid point!
@williamfernandez1022
@williamfernandez1022 11 ай бұрын
Beautifully said! I agree 🙌🏻
@h3llboyyy407
@h3llboyyy407 11 ай бұрын
True but pure love can also be from a distance. From dina's pov maybe that was a major red flag and instead of wife material , Ellie should be friend material bc she's not enough to handle raising a kid.
@random_internaut
@random_internaut 9 ай бұрын
i think they should be a family in the end (cause considering the stuff they went thru, they already are) but i kinda see dina in ellies position in tlou2 and ellie in joels, dina might not forgive her but id like to see her try. ellie wasnt truly herself back at the farm and id like it if they had a real chance together. plus, the point of the third installment should be redemption and i think for it to work dina should in a way accept ellie if that makes any sense
@Ifiwasgabren
@Ifiwasgabren 8 ай бұрын
We have no idea what went on in her previous relationships 😂 there’s no reason to assume things are different with Ellie especially since they were together for like a month or two
@TheBigAngryHobo
@TheBigAngryHobo 11 ай бұрын
This will be cannon in my head until the game comes out. Beautifully told. Love this video. Very well edited.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate that very much
@gojiking2790
@gojiking2790 11 ай бұрын
This feels like a beautiful final chapter
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
I'm happy you feel that way
@moth_enterprises
@moth_enterprises 11 ай бұрын
The part about Ellie carrying JJ made me pause and cry. Thank you for making this video! I enjoyed the game so much, and this is pretty much exactly how I'd want a Part III to go.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoyed! The fact that I was able to provoke that much emotion from my simple video means a lot
@1kingeling123
@1kingeling123 8 ай бұрын
I got goosebumps
@alliswc
@alliswc 7 ай бұрын
Same reaction got chills, and tears as I listened to this part. Very good story.
@fanny-28-20
@fanny-28-20 3 ай бұрын
ME. TOO. i literally saw it as he spoke. This story is so important to so many of us & i rly hope we get another installment that atleast has that scene or something like it
@solas444
@solas444 19 күн бұрын
This part hit me hard
@matthewkendrick8280
@matthewkendrick8280 11 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s worth mentioning that Abby doesn’t even know Ellie’s name. She heard it spoken once throughout her life, when Tommy told Ellie to drop the gun, but I doubt Abby would remember the name in the heat of the fight.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
This story would give them plenty of time to learn her name lol.
@guyupsidedown7199
@guyupsidedown7199 11 ай бұрын
"Sometimes, a predictable ending works best as long as it feels earned." *Yes I'm looking at you, Game of Thrones*
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
LMAO literally
@rjlumagui9543
@rjlumagui9543 3 ай бұрын
You explaining that Tommy would call Ellie “Kiddo” at the end made tears run down my face so hard. This would be a phenomenal story.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
@ttkitachi8582
@ttkitachi8582 11 ай бұрын
15:33 , actually brought tears to my eyes. Disregarding how unrealistic a watch that has been dead for 30 years to tick again, the symbolism is amazing and i would LOVE if this is how the game actually ends. Amazing writing my guy, an actual masterclass 😌
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@d.g.205
@d.g.205 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved the build up to Abby saving Ellie.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@toivoyrjola
@toivoyrjola 4 ай бұрын
The call back to Joel carrying his daughter at the beginning of the first game is already referenced at the end of the first game, when Joel carries Ellie to safety from the hopsital. That is not to say it wouldn't work a second time.
@blinkspacestudio8892
@blinkspacestudio8892 Жыл бұрын
Abby would have died if Tommy had not confronted Ellie about her being spotted. She would have died a really horrible slow death, Lev too. I would really like to see them put their shit aside, fight a common enemy and then either get this cure on the table or to start to find a way to clean up the infected etc. Surely there were notes that Abby's father had about the procedure, just because joel killed him does not mean someone else cant do the job.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
That's a valid point. I just don't know if they'd wanna rehash the cure plotline, it seems a little too predictable. Don't get me wrong, predictable is fine as long as it feels earned. But if they did go through with it, I feel like it would undermine what Joel did at the end of Part I.
@knowledgeanddefense1054
@knowledgeanddefense1054 11 ай бұрын
​@@thoughtprojectWhat if they write so that they only manage to fully recover and restore the procedure methods once Ellie is already old and dying anyway?
@emilyriley6029
@emilyriley6029 11 ай бұрын
@@thoughtproject I don’t even think Ellie would go through with it either knowing WHY Joel did it. Yeah, he did it and Ellie didn’t like what he did but now she knows WHY and I feel like she wouldn’t go through it bc it would all be in vain. He would’ve died for nothing. Like an Ellie thought process could go like “he died bc he saved me.” And so I think with that in mind, she wouldn’t be able to go through with it. Either that or have a serious moral dilemma of “should I/should I not” with a cure, considering all her options and past experiences
@alphavasson5387
@alphavasson5387 11 ай бұрын
​@@emilyriley6029 I love that line "he died because he saved me." Personally I think a parallel to Joel could be done with Ellie at the end of the game. Like either she sacrifices herself to get a cure or to save somebody else (JJ?) Although she dies, she dies happy, saving others while understanding Joel and wanting to follow in his footsteps
@JuanVasquez-ph8be
@JuanVasquez-ph8be 11 ай бұрын
Ellie and Abby teaming up is one of the worst ideas lmao
@emilyriley6029
@emilyriley6029 11 ай бұрын
Idk what anyone else says or wants but I want to see Ellie and Abby meet again. I think it would be cool for Tommy and Ellie to walk into a firefly spot and be introduced and whatnot and then they open a door and there, looking at a map or some paperwork if some sort, stands Abby. They look at each other, shocked, and Tommy tries to go after her but Ellie, along with other fireflies, stop tommy and pull them apart
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@kobewankenobi248
@kobewankenobi248 Жыл бұрын
*The watch ticking again really got to me. Such a great detail I think they should include. Bravo, brother*
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@DurfMcAllister
@DurfMcAllister 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s Lovely, and it would mean the trilogy starts and ends with the same sound
@blitzwinger999wright6
@blitzwinger999wright6 3 ай бұрын
I really like the ending but I think it could be improved even. Maybe have Ellie be injured and have Tommy carrying her to safety, mirroring his brother and have Abby be the one to kill the general and Tommy shield Ellie with his own body, making sure Joel doesn’t lose his other daughter, remembering what happened last time. Could make for an emotional scene with Tommy forgiving Abby as he dies and telling Ellie to live her life with purpose
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
Love this idea!
@cityrat3237
@cityrat3237 11 ай бұрын
Yes! I’ve been saying this since part 2 came out. This game NEEDED to be this way. It’s building towards a bigger picture and part 2 was stepping stone that although very bitter Must happen. I’ve also said that Ellie and Abby should end up having to work together in the 3rd game. It would make for some really good situations/dialogue. Their both so different but also alike and putting them in a situation where they both have to rely on each other to survive would make for some really good story. I’m super excited for the 3rd game
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed!
@aaronnantz2289
@aaronnantz2289 8 ай бұрын
That would be cool I wanna see ellie and Abby team up maybe in the end they save everyone and end on good terms I wouldn't mind seeing a last of us sinn off of other characters would be nice to.
@arla.e
@arla.e Жыл бұрын
This was such a great posible story! I really would love to see something like this on Part III. I agree, this characters deserve a good or bittersweet ending, especially Ellie. Amazing video ❤
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@kirbs4
@kirbs4 Жыл бұрын
This is an amazing breathtaking story that we all need to see in action. Naughty Dog better watch this video and take notes on what to do and how to move the story smoothly and impactfully. Thank you for sharing this ❤❤
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words
@kirbs4
@kirbs4 Жыл бұрын
@@thoughtproject I really did man!! Keep up the amazing work ❤
@77meridiano
@77meridiano 3 ай бұрын
Beautifully said! My bet for Part III is that Ellie eventually finds another doctor(s) able to synthese an antidote without killing her - Joel's decision from Part I is rewarded, Ellie gets her sense of meaning and humanity survives.
@F0CKSTR0T
@F0CKSTR0T 3 ай бұрын
Druckman would see that as being respectful of Joel as a character, who he despises. If his memory is served in any way that could comfort Ellie, it isn't going to happen. She isn't even allowed to connect with him through music.
@iwillroam
@iwillroam 11 ай бұрын
Abby and Ellie eventually have to talk about Abby offed Joel because Joel offed her father. I don't think Ellie knows this still yet.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
She still doesn't know! We definitely need that scene
@xBintu
@xBintu 11 ай бұрын
a reunion in part 3 with the emotional capacity for Ellie and Abby to connect, understand each others loses is tremendous and would fit naughty dog pretty well, considering how much feelings they put in part 1 and 2
@hperdomobrothers5420
@hperdomobrothers5420 5 ай бұрын
The story you've created for III is absolutely beautiful, although I feel like a main character has to die during the raid for realism
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't mind that. Thanks for your support
@sean-lucshanahan9140
@sean-lucshanahan9140 11 ай бұрын
I like the idea that Abby spends her time on the Catalina islands studying medicine and science for near decades. She eventually reunites with Ellie and Ellie is finally able to make the decision to surrender herself to someone who could generate a cure from her. The screen goes black at the end of the game and you’re left to wonder if Ellie really could have generated a cure and whether that ever mattered in the first place
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Could be interesting, but again, I feel like Ellie sacrificing herself would undermine Joel's actions in Part I.
@dap4699
@dap4699 11 ай бұрын
​@@thoughtproject that doesn't matter, because that's not what Ellie wanted. I honestly prefer this idea than your story. It doesn't convince me. I get the redemption plot, but this felt like a fantasy rather than reality.
@Joryu-
@Joryu- 7 ай бұрын
@@dap4699Honestly I think the this is more fantasy than projects, I think they should go with something that doesn’t have a fairytale ending (saving the world with a cure) and stuff ya know?
@daniellizarraga4678
@daniellizarraga4678 24 күн бұрын
@@dap4699 I agree. I believe that Elie finaly, having the capacity to decide to do it or not would be more intersting, but I also believe that TLOU does not Need a secuel, at least not Joel, for obvious reasons, neither Elie, to me makes perfect sense Elie going to jackson to get back her relationship with Dina and the boy, and after a taste period, she finaly gets it
@daniellizarraga4678
@daniellizarraga4678 24 күн бұрын
@@Joryu-Well, it does not necesary has to save the world. A lot of people has argue that fireflies would fail to produce enough vaccine and other problems related with resources
@Darren7897
@Darren7897 3 ай бұрын
I actually think Abby was molded into a pschyo by Joel's actions. You have to be psychotic to murder someone the way she did, after he saved her life, and while Ellie watched
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
Interesting take!
@Fluffy_cat77
@Fluffy_cat77 3 ай бұрын
I wish Ellie and Dina got to be together because even after what Ellie did, she was still going through grief and the way her own family died aka Joel had gone out was reasonable
@coreywilder1564
@coreywilder1564 3 ай бұрын
This is a terrible take actually. Abby was molded further into a human going after her father’s killer. Anyone with a pair of balls would do the same. We all have capacity to perform dark acts in life. To think one morally just and “good” is infantile thinking. All players see themselves in both Ellie and Abby by the end of part 2 and that is by design.
@slayintricks4682
@slayintricks4682 Жыл бұрын
I’m so surprised this only has 64 views. This is such a good video.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. That means a lot
@andu1854
@andu1854 3 ай бұрын
Fortunately I am watching it at over 100K, so people found it
@ShadowedSadness
@ShadowedSadness 7 ай бұрын
“The only true difference between a hero and a villain, is that a hero will sacrifice you to save the world, while a villain will sacrifice the world to save you”
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 7 ай бұрын
Love this.
@vigilanttt619
@vigilanttt619 11 ай бұрын
this was an amazing video man your creativity and story was on another level!! I honestly would love for naughty thing to take your ideas into their own adaptation
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@DarkInferno99
@DarkInferno99 11 ай бұрын
Man the bit of Ellie carrying jj in her arms like joel carried Sarah nearly had me in tears. But the bit at the grave did have me in tears. This was a really goof story that i woulf love to see in game
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@jared8570
@jared8570 Жыл бұрын
I have been a fan of the last of us for years now, after watching every video in this series I'm shocked that even in this video there were details I've missed. I can say without a doubt that this series is one of my favorites when it comes to these games/shows. Phenomenal work as per usual. Can't wait to see what you do next
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
My guy
@bryanjames5256
@bryanjames5256 11 ай бұрын
As an aspiring writer, its the human condition that makes a great story, weather you love a character or not. And The Last of us just resonates with me so much. The dynamic between Joel and Ellie is beautiful, and the need for revenge is so easy understand, yet easy to condone as well. And i think your idea would be cool. A group that consists of Lev, Abby, Ellie, and Tommy would be interesting. I could see Tommy trying to kill her more than once.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed!
@jojonr619
@jojonr619 8 ай бұрын
The watch starting to tick again at the end is genius. Love that part
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@waikeekee3831
@waikeekee3831 Жыл бұрын
Wow this video actually made me cry, the ending was so beautiful. Amazing writing man
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
The fact that you got that much out of one of my videos means a lot to me. Thanks so much
@beautepley8352
@beautepley8352 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful analysis, man! You're a true fan and this gave me goosebumps. Thanks for taking the time to make this. It was worth it!
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@inigomartinezrubio
@inigomartinezrubio 11 ай бұрын
Really well presented idea! Your channel is so underrated. Keep it up!
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@user-gr1xi4kd7o
@user-gr1xi4kd7o Жыл бұрын
another amazing video! i completely agree and have been saying that if they make a 3rd game (which they really should) it will definitely be about redemption and ellie learning to come to terms with everything that’s happen.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@averystreeter9470
@averystreeter9470 Жыл бұрын
This is an insanely great video. You nailed it.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@levireid6164
@levireid6164 3 ай бұрын
This sounds brilliant! I really like the scenes you crafted between ellie, Tommy and Abby around the fire, and towards the end as Abby asks for forgiveness. Both of which sound very emotionally investing, even with Tommy just simply shaking her hand as a subtle means of saying I acknowledge your regret and everything good you’ve done since but am still nowhere near able to forgive you which is perfectly in line with Tommy’s I bitterness after all these years and his awkwardness. I would highly recommend watching Wolf of Thornes video on a potential Part 3 narrative as it was also great!
@bayleylittle
@bayleylittle 3 ай бұрын
This video is amazing. I’m sitting here just thinking about this story playing out, I’m actually blown away. I really do hope we can get a part 3 and something along these lines would be so perfect. This’ll forever be my favourite video game franchise.
@VladiProductions
@VladiProductions 11 ай бұрын
I think a good potential for PART III having Joel as a ghost talking with Ellie through the whole story. Same concept as in Batman Arkham Knight with Joker
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
That'd be neat! Would love to hear some more Troy Baker lol
@andu1854
@andu1854 3 ай бұрын
Could be a way Ellie copes with her grief and PTSD (like how Rick in Walking Dead talks to Lorrie on a phone after her death )
@sams-sam
@sams-sam 11 ай бұрын
I really appreciate how passionate you are about the games, I too adore these games above any other game or film franchise. I think everyone has their own idea of how they would want part 3 to go, but I just want to say that I found some of your plot points really interesting, really good work!
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I appreciate you and I'm glad you enjoyed
@stanleylee3329
@stanleylee3329 3 ай бұрын
When you did the Joel/Sarah parallel I literally got chills for a second, Neil if you’re watching this-do the right thing
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
@blindovermatter3054
@blindovermatter3054 5 ай бұрын
This is the most well constructed thought process I have seen as far as a story for a third game, and you deserve mini commendations for articulating it so well, I hope this is what happens and even if it isn’t I love this as an idea, thank you.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@Ivbo
@Ivbo 11 ай бұрын
I think part 3 should be the reverse of part 1, except now Ellie is where Joel was in the first game. They could have her meet someone on the road that’s similar in age to her but reminds her of Joel a lot, and through this person she can learn to find herself again. I think that would be a very poetic and beautiful way to close out the story.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Not a bad idea!
@anubis.6256
@anubis.6256 11 ай бұрын
I feel like it's got the potential to go full circle and Ellie will sacrifice her life in the end to save Abby or someone else. A full redemption of her character.
@rossturner7281
@rossturner7281 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic video and very well thought out story. I honestly have nothing I would change, great work mate, I love both games too 👍
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 🙏
@deathwishxx6
@deathwishxx6 6 ай бұрын
DUDE! how do you not have more subscribers this was pure gold. you earned my sub
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!! I'm so glad you enjoyed it
@piplup0800
@piplup0800 7 ай бұрын
I agree I always thought that TLOU was going to be set up as a trilogy about love, hate, and forgiveness/redemption and i'm excited to see what a third game will lead too. Story really doesn't feel finished right now with the ending of tlou2. I agree with the idea of curing the world with ellie being the wrong narrative choice too. Her story should be about learning to accept the good her life brings to the world and not as a sacrifice.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Butcher3990
@Butcher3990 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding storyline 👏 I really couldn’t get onboard with Abi at-all even to this day, but this story you’ve written would be a truly perfect way to round off a truly epic Franchise Bravo 👏
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Rhodesy
@Rhodesy 3 ай бұрын
Bro, the war scene where he mentions ellie caries jj just how joel carried sarah is beautiful!
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@CCFC456Sprout
@CCFC456Sprout 3 ай бұрын
Your ending with the watching ticking again gave me goosebumps! 😮
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
@saiphnsound2363
@saiphnsound2363 11 ай бұрын
when you said the jj thing it clicked where you were going with it and i just got chills like i would sob my way through that entire sequence
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Almost got emotional just writing it. I'm glad you enjoyed
@seventhsoldier2502
@seventhsoldier2502 8 ай бұрын
I think the series is going to end with Ellie sacrificing herself to create a cure. There’s going to be another doctor, another somebody who can make a cure. And Ellie is going to “fulfill her destiny” so to speak.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 8 ай бұрын
It feels a little predictable. But if that's the way they choose to cap off this incredible story, I wouldn't be mad at all. Like Part II though, I have a feeling they're going to try to subvert expectations, hopefully this time for the better.
@seventhsoldier2502
@seventhsoldier2502 8 ай бұрын
@@thoughtproject I don’t think it’s predictable at all. “If by some miracle we found her, there would be no point. Because the only person that could create the cure is dead.” The main reason Ellie spirals into depression is not only because Joel took that away from her, but that she can’t fix his mistakes even if she wanted to. It would offer redemption for Ellie, and going with your theory about part III, I think would fit right in.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 8 ай бұрын
@@seventhsoldier2502 I agree with you, thematically speaking it's not predictable, what I mean as that the overwhelming majority of the fandom thinks the series will end with Ellie dying for the cure. Nearly every fan theory I come across has mentioned it one way or another. Again, it very well could happen, and I would be totally ok with it. I just wanted my story to go in a different direction. You are right though, it would fit right in.
@animalcrossingenjoyer
@animalcrossingenjoyer 8 ай бұрын
I really hope ND sees this video. You have some amazing ideas. I absolutely love this version of possible events
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@erfanchannel
@erfanchannel 5 ай бұрын
Beautiful story man! It left me feeling the same way I did the first time I finished part 1. You got yourself a new subscriber brother!
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@catdn7011
@catdn7011 11 ай бұрын
I honestly think the character with the most potential for part 3 is lev, so much groundwork has been made for him that hasnt bee explored yet
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
FACTS
@CKing97
@CKing97 11 ай бұрын
I always thought a potential Part III couldn't be done without Ellie dying for a cure, but this redemption story you've conjured up could make this franchise one of the greatest trilogies of all time. Good video Mr. KZfaq Guy 👍🏾
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@rohammaani5023
@rohammaani5023 3 ай бұрын
Ur the only creator in all my 16 yrs on KZfaq who I’ve seen answer or write back to every single comment 😅 shout out to u
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
I try my best! I love hearing what people have to say
@kailennewman9881
@kailennewman9881 Ай бұрын
I think this sounds amazing. One other thing i'd want is for JJ to have a major role. Ellie could have a motherly/big sister type bond with him, similar to the father/daughter relationship she had with joel, bringing things full circle. I also think that dina would die by an infected during the final battle, and ellie could raise jj like her own son, fully redeeming herself for abandoning dina and jj in pt 2, which I think would be very heartwarming. However, dina surviving would be awesome too.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Ай бұрын
Well said.
@bluebell7940
@bluebell7940 11 ай бұрын
It would be nice to also get some more back stories. Like tommy, maybe eugene, also dina. I know it’s a far reach but id also love to see more flashbacks with joel. may he RIP.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Let's hope!
@tiago342000
@tiago342000 3 ай бұрын
This is why fans should not interfere with narratives, it just looks like fan fiction
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
I mean it is lol
@MintRye
@MintRye 9 ай бұрын
Very underrated channel. Keep up the work!!! 🎉
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@theblissfulinterzone7510
@theblissfulinterzone7510 4 ай бұрын
This was an amazing premis for Part 3. Especially Ellie's forgiveness of Abby, reconciliation with Tommy, and the bit with Joel's watch, well done
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@X__223
@X__223 11 ай бұрын
I had all but just forgotten this series over the last couple months and all I can think is that I’m feeling some strong stuff right now because Ellie and Joel and their stories resonated with me so well. I’m gonna have to replay them games to feel what it is that I lost
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
It's worth it. These games are incredible
@fallenlazyrat52
@fallenlazyrat52 11 ай бұрын
dude how the hell do you only have 600 subs? Your content is fucking amazing, and you genuinely deserve way more.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
That means the world to me
@MidlineTV
@MidlineTV 3 ай бұрын
I think redemption is the likely path. I’ve always seen this as a trilogy the second I finished 2. Part 1- Focuses on the daughter, Part 2- Focuses on the father and finally Part 3- Focusing on the mother. Part 2 clearly builds up both Abby and Ellie the potential of motherhood and having both of these characters attempt to make “the best” world for their kin definitely makes sense. We also know next to nothing about Ellie and Abby’s mother so flashbacks giving us fleeting moments with these characters would be really wonderful imo.
@advisko
@advisko 11 ай бұрын
Wow, loved the whole interpretation of Part III. Amazing job!
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ethanalan07
@ethanalan07 11 ай бұрын
Dude you just explained the perfect plot for the next game!! Amazing
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@Vlcheshire99
@Vlcheshire99 7 ай бұрын
The way you told your story was absolutely beautiful. Amazing job
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@dylanklein4534
@dylanklein4534 11 ай бұрын
incredible theory and would love to see the game end up like this. Awesome video my guy
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@tonyleidyiii1652
@tonyleidyiii1652 9 ай бұрын
The story needs to be about Tommy hunting Abby
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 9 ай бұрын
nah
@tonyleidyiii1652
@tonyleidyiii1652 9 ай бұрын
@@thoughtproject well he should at least become the protagonist because it’ll be great to play as Tommy
@blazinglava
@blazinglava 5 ай бұрын
I really like the idea of Abby and Ellie going on a mission together and at some point Abby is reminded of a pun joke her dad used to say a lot, mentioning how her dad loved that kind of humor and Ellie reminisces on how Joel hated that kind of stuff when they first started out but he ended up joining in on it in the end. In this interaction Abby gives a vulnerable comment of "I wish I knew the real joel, the way you knew him". The interaction grows silent as both of them are reminded of their conflict but a common ground between them has been made.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 5 ай бұрын
I love this idea 🙏
@EvanDempster
@EvanDempster 5 ай бұрын
I don't think I can properly explain how satisfying this idea you've laid out is. Bravo
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 5 ай бұрын
Much love
@michaelgollihue6314
@michaelgollihue6314 3 ай бұрын
Man this was so well done. Thank you.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
No, thank YOU for watching
@matthewkendrick8280
@matthewkendrick8280 11 ай бұрын
When I replayed part 2 most recently, I noticed parallels between Abby’s character development and Joel’s. To me they’re practically the same person and I think Ellie’s feelings toward Abby reflects that. Ellie hates Abby for killing the Joel she loved, in a very similar way that she hates Joel for killing the man she once knew as a father. I think a lot of fans don’t like Abby just because they’re closed minded, and I want to see what Abby and the Fireflies are planning on Catalina island. I’m certain that in part 3, Ellie *must* die, and Abby has to kill her, but Ellie will die happy with a life ensured for her stepson.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
I agree with what you said about how Abby reflects Joel, I really like her as a character. But why must Ellie die at the hands of Abby? If it's for a cure, I guess that makes sense, but I still feel like that would undermine everything that Joel did for Ellie in Part I. It wouldn't be a satisfying conclusion imo.
@whitefatalis2743
@whitefatalis2743 11 ай бұрын
Common the last of us 2 fan L
@nou1186
@nou1186 11 ай бұрын
Abby killing Ellie? That would probably be the most unsatisfying ending possible
@matthewkendrick8280
@matthewkendrick8280 11 ай бұрын
@@nou1186 i think if they decide to go back down the cure storyline and Ellie has to die by her own choice, Abby should be the one to do it, but not out of hate or revenge or even mercy.
@TheRealKillerTomato
@TheRealKillerTomato 3 ай бұрын
This is a sound idea my friend. I feel exactly as you described about these stories. I am a conservative from the Midwest and these characters are near and dear to my heart. I was never bashed over the head with LGBT themes. They are just characters in this similar predicament and their sexuality happened to show through the veil of sorrow and suspense. Crappy games with crappy stories have 5+ sequels. I don’t see a world where this story doesn’t get at least one more entry. At least I don’t want to. If we don’t get another chapter, I’ll accept your plot as official canon. Bravo.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Thank you for your support
@MintRye
@MintRye 9 ай бұрын
16:09 you seriously got me gasping by some of your predictions of what LOU3 could potentially be. So beautiful.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed!
@wickdaline8668
@wickdaline8668 Жыл бұрын
A bold but possibly unlikely prediction of mine is that Ellie and Abby will get their own sides of the story again as well as a flashback story of Ellie's mother Anna and Marlene during their early days of leading the Firefly insurgency. Which could even be tied to both Ellie and Abby's side plots. Both plots can have Ellie and Abby crossing paths again, shelving their grudges aside, and eventually learning together a disturbing truth Marlene had shielded from them both to protect them from a sinister rival of the Fireflies. A plot twist that reveals Ellie and Abby both born from Anna as sisters seperated at birth. Another bold creative decision Naughty Dog could make to truly enable whatever forgiveness Ellie and Abby can offer each other. Whether that divides the fans again or not.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject Жыл бұрын
That would be really interesting
@userjoao
@userjoao Жыл бұрын
That’s highly unlikely and too soap opery.
@kaileealtman9630
@kaileealtman9630 11 ай бұрын
After how badly the first two games broke me emotionally, I found this oddly healing. I really hope there are some aspects of your story in the next game. It is so very much needed. I need a happy ending for Ellie, in one way or another.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoyed
@SummerWind_
@SummerWind_ 8 ай бұрын
Abby’s arc is done. While she never got to reveal her true motives to Ellie or Tommy, she overcame her revenge, even if it was too late.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 8 ай бұрын
I still feel like there's more story to tell
@Camokoozie
@Camokoozie 11 ай бұрын
Wow the full circle story ending would be perfect. Great job bro
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!
@I_will_defeat_everyone
@I_will_defeat_everyone 8 ай бұрын
Great story, that'd be awesome ! I hated and loved both Abby and Ellie in TLOU2, I want them back for a third game, because as you said, they have so much potential
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed! And agreed.
@altheaosborn2648
@altheaosborn2648 11 ай бұрын
It's so nice to hear from someone who actually cares for Abby, because god do I fucking love her character. I NEED to know what happened to her after the events of the second game.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
THANK YOU. She is way too over-hated.
@TacitusKilgore535
@TacitusKilgore535 4 ай бұрын
How the hell can you love Abby holy shit, shes not only extremely poorly written, shes also the killer of Joel 🤦‍♂️
@TacitusKilgore535
@TacitusKilgore535 4 ай бұрын
@@thoughtprojectThere are objvective reasons for that
@georgec.3429
@georgec.3429 11 ай бұрын
i got so immersed with this i genuinely started crying. well done dude!!
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!! I'm glad you enjoyed it
@Grimshaw_
@Grimshaw_ 22 күн бұрын
I know that someone else has already mentioned this, but imagine this, Abby dies protecting Ellie. It would be super profound knowing that the person who killed Joel died doing the same thing Joel would do. Everything would come full circle. She died protecting the person she was trying to kill in the last game. You said that the game should be a story of redemption; this would be a perfect way to redeem Abby for her actions in the last game. Great video. I really hope that this is the plot of the next game.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 9 күн бұрын
Wouldn't mind this at all. Thanks for your support!
@wiiplaya25
@wiiplaya25 11 ай бұрын
The watch idea is nice on paper, I’m genuinely curious how it would start ticking again after all the time, logistically, haha. Definitely had the idea of introducing a new faction but I always wondered what if someone could control the infected. Some device or technique that could control their movements and attention. Then have the leader of that faction decide that this is the new world and will fight to keep it this way. Ellie and Abby should def have that talk about her true past. I hope we see a Part 3
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Maybe someone fixes it beforehand lol. It was just a fun thought for symbolism's sake. But I hope we see Part III.
@babyoda_054
@babyoda_054 6 ай бұрын
This TLOU III idea is amazing, I think it’s the best idea for part 3 I’ve heard. Also that ending is spectacular!!!
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@YourLocalGaymer
@YourLocalGaymer 3 ай бұрын
Ellie carrying jj made me sob I’m so sad that you can’t make this happen 😭 this is amazing and so well written thank you
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
Thank YOU for watching
@nichtmiro
@nichtmiro 8 ай бұрын
Not sure if I like the idea of Ellie answering Abbys question of "do you forgive me?" I'd rather have them meet at the cemetry, and her at first being really ambiguos about it, just to finally put Joel's watch on the grave and the watch starting to move forward just like these two are seen marching forward and therefore suggesting a move forward symbolically rather than spoken out. Also, maybe no introduction of another fraction, but rather reusing the WLF (which has regained a lot of strength after being decimated after the massacre) or the Seraphites? I really like your ideas though, I think it's a really cohesive story that would make a lot of sense to tell.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 8 ай бұрын
I like your ideas as well! Thanks for the support!
@savannahmonet9582
@savannahmonet9582 11 ай бұрын
I cried that was beautiful !!! Ugh I don’t want to have to wait YEARS for part 3 🥺 I absolutely love TLOUS I never had a video game other than Dins attach to me this way 😢 I hope they speed it up seriously
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed
@hunin27
@hunin27 11 ай бұрын
this seems like a really good story. naughty dog will handle the storytelling making us cry even more than we did in the other games.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
I hope so. For good reasons only. But I'm glad you enjoyed
@mannymontv
@mannymontv 3 ай бұрын
damn bro this is so good you made me cry… Never would’ve expected it. Ellie and Abbie’s redemption story is so perfect
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
@FABRIZZLE
@FABRIZZLE 3 ай бұрын
An neat DLC to that tale could end with Ellie and JJ, a few years later, finding an arcade cabinet that works and Ellie gets excited and encourages JJ to try it. He walks up to it and it’s Savage Starlight the game and this time, he actually gets to play a little of it while Ellie watches. (And this ends up being a teaser to ND’s next game. Might be a reach about the teaser, but would be cool to see the rest.)
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 3 ай бұрын
That would be awesome
@HeWhoIsNamedPatrick
@HeWhoIsNamedPatrick 11 ай бұрын
Pt 3 will begin with Abby and Lev finding the fireflies who are in contact with a firefly cell from South America who has the oriiginal Patient 0 who is infected and contagious but not turned or growing fungus from their body. One of the doctors working there finds out that by combining both Ellie’s and patient 0’s dna a cure can be made but only if they are alive. This will take us to back to pt 1 where Joel saving Ellie from the surgery actually saved the worlds only hope for a cure. Jerry was so desperate to make a vaccine he misdiagnosed her. I do like your idea but have the General be someone who knows of Ellie and her immunity and doesn’t want a cure made. He believes the world had its chance and wants to keep things the way they are. Also, you got to bring in new infected, the tendrils and have the fungus mutate to the point where if you get touched by any of them on bare skin, the tendrils grow into you and infect you.
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Good ideas
@sebastiankoch2242
@sebastiankoch2242 11 ай бұрын
Dang that’d be an awesome storyline as well
@bonappetit173
@bonappetit173 11 ай бұрын
omg this would be an incredible storyline. I would play this storyline until the cows come home.
@808hearmannxea2
@808hearmannxea2 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I just don't see them making Jerry the bad guy definitely, that was their point in part 2 to show us Joel wasn't the good guy. It's mostly wishful thinking trying to make Joel a hero but he isn't even Neil wanted people to be pissed with Joel because he. was. wrong. Hence why he did part 2 the way he did it, making part 3 completely dismisses why he did what he did with part 2 makes part 2 worthless.
@bricktea3645
@bricktea3645 10 ай бұрын
​@@thoughtproject don't know how parasites can come to the mix,it would be too wild,I would really like to see it in terms of gameplay but it just doesn't fit in with the universe of the last of us
@Idek-anymore
@Idek-anymore 5 ай бұрын
I honestly think tommy should save them at the end, Ik that Abby needs redemption but it would be good for tommy to kill the general, and the run in front of Ellie like he does for Joel in the first game, as if Ellie has filled Joel’s spot and his impact on her is revealed as she does exactly as he did. This also allows tommy to have saved what happened to Joel happening to Ellie
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 5 ай бұрын
I actually tossed this idea back and forth as I was writing it. The way you explain it, I wouldn't mind Tommy stepping in to save her!
@nicklane5160
@nicklane5160 11 ай бұрын
This was damn good we gotta share this and make this be part 3 !!!!😂
@thoughtproject
@thoughtproject 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
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