I now have a mental image of Perturabo being the universes grumpiest Santa Claus, building little toys for all the good little Primarchs and Astartes. Except Dorn.

"The flesh is weak, but the deed endures." - Vulkan Later, used by Ferris Manus which saddens me to see the Iron Hands not understand their primarchs words.

"Fire and wind come from the sky, from the gods of the sky. But Crom is your god, Crom and he lives in the earth. Once, giants lived in the Earth, Conan. And in the darkness of chaos, they fooled Crom, and they took from him the enigma of steel. Crom was angered. And the Earth shook. Fire and wind struck down these giants, and they threw their bodies into the waters, but in their rage, the gods forgot the secret of steel and left it on the battlefield. We who found it are just men. Not gods. Not giants. Just men. The secret of steel has always carried with it a mystery. You must learn its riddle, Conan. You must learn its discipline. For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts..." [Points to sword] "This you can trust." Conan's Father

Men of Iron. These Altars could be devices they used to heal themselves of any ailment/virus before battle, and the Mordant Altars that remain are the ones not lost to the ages.

Brain Ghost Ferris: THE FLESH IS WE- Vulkcan: Shut. up.

What about the possibility of it being the fabricator general of mars?

I got the impression it was less political sway but rather unprecedented skill that drew the Admech in here. This individual didn't have the authority to demand resources. Instead they were given willingly because Mars really wanted to see what this genius would produce.

That title is the perfect name for a first album to a start up metal band

So 'The Great Anvil' broke on the last swing. Are we sure he didn't just decide he was done after it broke? Maybe he was going to take another decade.

I wonder if that's why Fulgrim's gift hammer to Ferrus is named Forge Breaker

Theory: The Mordant Altars are active parts of an advanced large STC unit from the Dark Age of Technology, maybe even older. Together they're able to construct something as large as required, they were deliberately disassembled and given out to the Iron Hands to ensure no one agency would have access to such a powerful artifact. Its quite possible the STC was the core unit as used by the Emperor during the unifying wars on ancient Terra. This would make the Unknown Artisan the Emperor, indirectly, and obviously the legend regarding it "breaking" is not literal but symbolic, i.e. each part of the whole unit was disconnected and still works, but is unable to reproduce items of size and complexity as it could do as a whole.

Just trying to imagine someone needing hive cities worth of power just to power his forge.

The mordant altar could not have come from Jagatai Khan unless it came to the Iron Hands really, really fast. Could have been mistaken for an asteroid.

This sounds interesting and thanks for covering this

"THE FLESH IS WEAK!" * Tyranid swarm scuttles past * "...shut up."

"The Emperor did it" I know its cheesy and kind of a cop out but I love and accept it every time.

What do I think? Well, I watch you because next to A Border Prince, Leutin09 and Tactica Imperials (Which I also enjoy you on)....you make the Lore mysterious again. After 30 years.

I think Perturabo makes the most sense, but why couldn’t it have been Lorgar? Altars and religion were his thing after all.

I personally think it was either Perturabo or Fulgrim. It would be funny if Fulgrim made it, the Iron Hands greatest relics being made by their most hated enemy

I think Vulkan or one of the lost make the most sense.

When will you cover the several sacred techniques used by Vulkan to successfully hug Rogal Dorn?

fulgrim gifts a hammer called forgebreaker to Ferris manis who has a legion.. who gets this has a mechanical forge that is supposedly the remnant of a broken forge. 1+1=2.

A very extremely awesome video as always 40k Theories.

what do you get if you connect several Capitol Imperialis? Right! Make way for the land train! Squats are dead but the legacy lives!

I think not knowing definitely adds to the grandiosity and mysteriousnes of the artifacts

Glad to see another video on my favorite iron angry boys.

If they're likely to strike it from the records due to being a traitor, we wouldn't know of Forgebreakers origins either. More likely to be the 2nd or 11th primarch- if not xenos

I've no basis for this but I like the idea of it being a shard of the Eldar god Vaul doing so in revenge on Kain because he knew Ferus would kill many aspect warriors.

Thanks for the vid w.👍🏼👍🏼

hmmm - why not fabricator general Kelbor-Hal? he have political strength, he is ad-mech after all so gift from him to Iron Hands would be expected. he fall to chaos so it would sugest why his name was striped.... but they held the relic becouse of bound to mechanicus. if altars were Fulgrim i bet the iron hands would remove them becouse of "taint"

Shame that suit of armor didnt come with a better helmet.

It could be an member of a Xenos race like a Jokaero. [SPOILER] In the short story " Weaponsmith" a kill team of the Deathwatch capture a Jokaero who was the creator of many weapon, armor and vehicles for the Iron Warrior.

NICE!!!!! LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!!!!

I just have to say, these land crawlers even look identical to a sand crawler from star wars that the jawas use on tattooine. Which, as a star wars literature fanatic, I absolutely love

I wanna believe it was Perturabo. It would be fittingly tragic and it has always annoyed me that despite being fairly similar and even sharing the word Iron in their name, there's little to no connection between Ferrus and Perturabo

Vaul... Its the Anvil of Vaul. Ive been binging on your theory vids of late and was surprised you didn't look at a Xenos origin. It would explain the total lack of information and mysterious origin. Just a thought...

I think that maybe it was a high ranking Magos of the Adeptus Mechanicus who turned traitor, or did some sort of techno heresy and was excommunicated. They could order give cities to go dark because they were in a position to give such orders, and would likely have the time and the drive to work on a special forge to make special wargear.

The mordant altars, strangely, had a half eaten fruit sigil upon it. What genius of old must have created them cannot be known.

The ghost of Farrus says he bets you 1 million ghost dollars you will never guess correctly.

It would be really cool if you started a weaponology series similar to your xenozoology, describing powerful and famous weapons and armor of warhammer 40k

They're closer to the Adeptus Mechanicus than most chapters. | 2:40 - They're also ruled by a council of Iron Fathers, a mix of Chaplin and Techmarine. | 6:16 - Filthy Frank? | Vulkan sounds like the most likely candidate as he had a history of that. | 9:20 - KHAN!!! (Echoes) | 10:48 - Pretty boy? I can understand why. | 11:30 - His legion replaces flesh with cybernetics as well, although in their case, it's to get rid of chaos mutated parts, which they consider abhorrent. (although they're fine with those that become Daemon Princes) | I'm not sure if the 40K version of Bane would appreciate that, although Big Papa Ultrasmurf might with his. | 12:45 - As in those who had it worse than the traitor legions, as at least they were reviled in at least some circles, if the Inquisition knows about them, they're not talking...Big Papa Ultrasmurf and Sanguinius would definitely know about them. | The records were stricken sometime after the Lion was found.

I think it was Perturabo (or however it's spelt lol) He is the 40k Tony Stark!!

I think the originator being one of the lost/purged Primarchs that made the original Anvil that split into those Alters makes a lot of sense. Durring the "Cleanup" after those legion were disbanded, the fragments of it could have been given to the iron hands, since they are arguably greater craftsman and smiths than even the Salamanders. The Emperor and Malcador worked very hard to wipe the records of those lost primarchs from imperial history, but at the same time, didn't waste their astartes, letting them be reabsorbed into the Ultramarines and Imperial fist, so it may be that those legions resources were divided among the remaining 18 as well. Speculating on the motivations of the emperor is a fools game, but it seems like striking them from records, and hiding evidence of them existing was less out of spite towards them, and more out of grief, so I don't think he would go so far as to destroy everything they once owned.

Hey, Remleiz. how are things going? When can we expect the next void War?

OH those ? They where made by [ THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN REDACTED BY ORDER OR THE IMPERIAL INQUISITION =][= ]

Woot woot Iron Hands!! :D (I hope to see Ferris come back in TTS)

If it can repair/fix any mechanical ailments it sounds suspiciously like Necron Nanomachines. That would explain the purged records, using Necron Tech as holy relics is pretty risky after all.

Could it possibly be aquired from Necrons? They are after all a mechanical race, and it could be connected to the void dragon in some way, so that it requires devotion to be used. That might also explain, why its origin was removed from records, as nobody wanted to answer a question of why they are using Xenos tech.

That clears that up then.

Lorgar....who else would build a holy alter

It'd be cool if it was a joint effort by Ferrus and Fulgrim... Not wanting to acknowledge their relationship and that it has a connection to their most hated enemy but not destroying it due to the sacrilege of destroying a relic of their Primarch.

Considering there are Necrons on Medusa and Ferrus Manus had a little rumble, in the frozen wastelands with them, who says these objects are human to begin with?

THE EMPERAH..the answer to every 40k theory ever

Good stuff as ever, and please lean to say “warriors” correctly as a bit distracting. Thanks

There is only one Primarch who can break an anvil with his strength. It would be the same person who bench pressed a Warhound with pure RAGE!

If or rather ehen the heat death if the universe happens in 40k, the sun explodes, swallowing terra in flames, will the warp be our last hope or will it run out of energy too?

I dig some love to the whooping boys. I think they are a bit more tragic than the Lamenters.

One Theory you didn't give was the possibility that the alter could have been forged by a Xeno instead of a Human, There are at least two races active with the ability to forge such a artifact, The Eldar and the Necron. While the idea of Humans, and especially the Mars Tech Priests, working with a Alien to create something would be outright Heresy/Outlandish there is plenty of evidence of events where such races have teamed with Humans to repair or reactivate some form of technology for a greater purpose. For the Eldar there are many who still Worship the lost Eldar God Vaul The Smith God, making it possible for a Eldar Smith to be the one to had forged the Armor and broke the alter from its heavy use, while the Eldar in general dislike humanity theirs still a silent acceptance that Humanity has the potential for great things. If it was a Elder who was Forge Master it would be easier for him/her to pass as a Human given Tech Priests generally keep there bodies cloaked and thus unseen or the Tech Priests just ignored who the forge master was and were more interested in what was being made. Thus it could be explained as the records erased as the idea of it being publicly known that a Xeno had used human technology to create something, and do a better job at using human tech then humans, it would cause a large backlash in the Tech Priest Religion let alone how the Space Marines react to almost worshiping a alter crafted by Alien Hands. Don't have much of a idea for why a Necron would make it though theirs been a few examples of some eccentric Nercon Personalities so the possibility of a odd Necron finding human tech amusing and wanting to mess with it, and creating great works in the eyes of humanity, until some later date in which he left or was destroyed.

make a theorie about chapter master of the soul drinkers Sarpedon's psychic abilities. "what would the necrontyr in the novel "hellforged" fear? fecundity abundant Life!" and than paradise rise.

I say it was Ferrus Manus himself using Forge Breaker and rending the one into many.

ughhh, good video. ty, the iron hands lore is all a stretch and rough. could it just be that the weakest legion with the most rediculous primarch died in battle?

Because it was an eldar. An avatar of Vaul. (If Kaine and Ynneaad can have a manifestation through a willing eldar i guess all the other eldar gods can too) and where to hide from the servants of slaanesh than amongst their number one non eldar enemies.

Literally just spoke about a hammer called the "alter breaker" but skips right over it... think someone missed a trick there... Not to mention fulgrim would be erased...like you mention. An as with most attempts to erase things most of the time (except the 2 primarks) it just fails horribly.

Cool.

Let's face it, the Artisan was probably Alpharius It's always Alpharius

Yesss iron hands! Finally!

Vulgrim made a Gift callt Forgebreaker ... .. the Mordant Altars are Pieces of a Forge .. BUT ..the lost primarchs are a fun thing to ponder ...

Forge-breaker? If that is not a hint then i don't know what is.

From the Vaults of the Blood Ravens: A vox recording of the mad primarch, Konrad Curze of the VIII Legion (believed recorded near end of the Horus Heresy). "They tell me terror and psychological tactics don't work on Adeptus Astartes, as they have that 'Know No Fear' thing going for them. I proved them wrong, and I didn't need Lorgar's warp farts he befriended to do so. "Find an Iron Hand, if there's any of them left these days; they kinda fell apart after Ferrus Manus volunteered his skull for Emperor's Children polo matches. Then start tossing EMP grenades at them. They get more panicky and useless than Rogal Dorn in charge of storming a spaceship. Got the idea when I saw some of the Night Lords getting their kicks harassing some tech priest that wasn't getting the jobs done, and one of them noticed a crate of 'haywire grenades.' I would've done more with those grenades making the Iron Hands go haywire at Istvaan, but then I got the rare chance to upstage that emo loser Corax -- and Lorgar. Pathetic losers copying my styles, the both of them."

I wonder what ferrus manus would say about the iron hands in the modern 40k timeline.

You would think they would shun the Primaris as the flesh is still weak

THE SACRED TEXTS!

A tech discussion without mentioning Vaul or the Omnissiah (The Void Dragon). Extra Heresy!

To be honest I thought you was going to take this down a different path. I didn’t suspect any of primarchs but a fragment or a being of the C’tan. Just with the connections of history of the primarch and with the dragon of mars.

Could it have been a Primarch of the II legion? Seems the most likely

What about it having been created by someone high up in the Machine Cult who would go on to support the traitors during the Horus Heresy? This would explain striking that person's name.

Maybe they can make Ferris a new head?

It may be from the dark age of tech, I would be interresting if they suddently discovered there were basic AI in it

Or, it could be that altar that iron hands made for their dead primarch robot hand effigy or something that infuriates vulkan so he smashed it. 🤔🤔

What about One of the Lost Primarch？ Because their existent was not allow to spoke anymore……So The Iron hand can not Speak The Name of that Primarch anymore……

What of the 2 expunged primarchs.

I suppose it's a just a legend similar to: "all crux terminatus contain a shard of Big E's armour"

The lost and the damned; it could be one of the two missing primarchs.

Forgebreaker? hm.. who could have been that artisan...?

a lot of good that armour did. bet they feel a bit silly wasting so much resources and energy on it now

THE FLESH IS WEAK! - Ferrus Manus Also known for his other works, such as dying like a bitch.

I like to think they're STCs and they never knew who made them

Sounds like it was a STC constructor.

Can you do a video on what type of armor each Primarch wore?

VULCAN LIVES!!

The 11th or 2nd would fit

I'd go for 1 of the lost primarchs.

Iron Hands! 😎

3:03 Dear God's... *Heavy Adolf sapping*

lets ask Guilliman!

It’s an STC they found

Maybe it was a Forge Master of Mars that turned traitor

Really enjoy videos on the Iron hands. Do you have a video on the key on medusa? I think that's what it's called. It's where they locked away all their dark technology. If no, can you make one please?

Seems a lot of power to forge a single suit of armour...perhaps the armour he wore was not the armour it talks about...perhaps the true armor was a ship or titan long lost to history

All this information purging sounds like heresy to me. But it was the emperor that started it all, so...