The Unused Concepts of X-Men (2000)
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The Black suits in the first X-Men film are controversial to say the least, but how exactly did we get them to begin with? Lets take a look at the 'Story Behind the Black Suits in X-MEN (2000)'
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Intro: 0:00
Promotion: 0:48
Design Evolution: 2:59
New but True: 7:48
A Darker Look: 13:37
The Final Looks: 16:57
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@zillauniverse7208 15 күн бұрын
I think it makes sense why comic book movies back then especially the X-men movies had to look very grounded and that was mainly because Hollywood still had memories of Batman & Robin.
@WarpingFist 15 күн бұрын
Part of it also has to do with the fact that comics were still seen as children's entertainment. This was the only way to have the general public take them seriously (at least to a lot of people)
@AgentGodzillaRP1 15 күн бұрын
No excuse by the 2010s tho with DoFP and Apocalypse
@aex9516 15 күн бұрын
@@AgentGodzillaRP1They really screwed us over with Dark Phoenix
@brandonspain12345 14 күн бұрын
Instead of flashy neon colors, everything was monochromatic and dark, giant fantasy sets became real dirty streets, pop songs were changed to grunge and techno, over the top performances became dialed back, colorful rubber costumes became black unitarian leather, of futuristic metallic fashion. Just this sense of "DON'T do what Batman & Robin did. Don't make it too colorful or too corny for casual viewers."
@knilla2k 12 күн бұрын
@@AgentGodzillaRP1DoFP had pretty good costumes compared to the originals. Not flashy enough maybe but not generic like most other X-Men movies. And Apocalypse actually has some perfect costumes but they are on miscast characters or underutilized. I’m kinda glad they didn’t do the comic suits yet so we can see them in Phase 7
@superspiderbat2833 15 күн бұрын
Fox Cyclops "Yellow Spandex" 97 Cyclops "Black Leather"
@Lazarou101 15 күн бұрын
Mystique's hair looking like a cobra's hood is such a great design choice.
@eckoalbino1623 15 күн бұрын
That "Black leather?" dig from Cyclops in X-Men 97 is very powerful and biting, meaning that the next adaptation in the MCU will veer more into the comics aspect as evidenced by Wolverine, Prof. X, and Beast's looks
@strongman5243 15 күн бұрын
And I'm glad they will
@zacharyjochumsen9677 4 күн бұрын
@@strongman5243wh know kon msrvel coud pony use th rejected outfit as template for th x mfnoutct jngh much could look like
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 15 күн бұрын
Ang Lee's Hulk is underrated
@Joecbg100 15 күн бұрын
That is so true, something so unique about it, how it folded drama, depth and the rage of Hulk.
@WarpingFist 15 күн бұрын
I've seen it once as a kid. I remember it being pretty cheesy but seems people are fond of it.
@brandonspain12345 15 күн бұрын
Honestly for me, as a kid, it felt like I was watching a horror movie at times. Especially the flashback with David Banner, the frog exploding, the way Hulk is screaming while hiding in the shadows, and the hulk dogs. Before I watched the Nolan Batman films, this was the comic book movie that made me feel like a grown-up watching it as a kid because of how dark and serious it was. But in a way, the Hulk should have a psychological horror tone considering he was inspired by Boris Karloff's Frankenstein monster and Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde and the movie's tone is probably what those stories would've been like if they were made today.
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 15 күн бұрын
@@brandonspain12345 yeah that's what i love about that movie
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 15 күн бұрын
@@Joecbg100 yes
@christianmanka3884 15 күн бұрын
I absolutely love the comic book X-Men designs And the final suits in X-Men Apocalypse prove that they can work in live action, but the black suits are kind of nostalgic for me.
@lovelaceackah216 13 күн бұрын
Not gonna lie the concepts suits look more better and accurate then the suits we got in the first few movies
@edrianraneses5864 15 күн бұрын
I swear the x men are the only ones who gets to wear all black suits inspired by blade or the matrix whereas spider man gets to wear his comics accurate suit for the major of the trilogy until we finally get to see a more colorful costume for wolverine in deadpool and wolverine at last til we wait for the rest of the x men wear a suit like in the comics they're supposed to in the mcu
@jaymesEo6 14 күн бұрын
The reason Jean was blonde in the concept art was because they were attempting to court Helen Hunt for the role. They probably were just going to send her pics with the character looking visually more like her to butter her up to take the part. I'm pretty sure she was Bryan's first choice to play Jean, too.
@mdh16off59 11 күн бұрын
Uma Thuraman was offerd for role too but she didint want play the role after what happen in bataman and Robin
@brandonspain12345 10 күн бұрын
@@mdh16off59 she actually said in a 2022 interview that she had a "fantastic experience" so it seems like she was the only actor in that movie who came out okay with it .
@mdh16off59 9 күн бұрын
@@brandonspain12345 yes she did great poison ivy and i just imagine here as jean grey she will be fired
@henrygambles3652 15 күн бұрын
I was always mixed on the Singer films and whilst I understood their decision to change the costumes I still dislike it!
@justinclark397 15 күн бұрын
I think the black and blue suit with the mask for Wolverine would've been cool to see as his Team X suit in X-Men Origins Wolverine, especially during the Africa sequence. That could've been a nice way to reuse that design.
@mero7731 15 күн бұрын
I think i would be fine with black leather if it also didnt look goofy. Like you cant make fun of yellow spandex if you look like that
@Joecbg100 15 күн бұрын
For the time, i completely understand and get the feeling. I think given that the X-Men are covert in the first two movies, all black with shades or hints or re or orange/gold is the right way to ease the transi5tion.
@javib2978 13 күн бұрын
I was disappointed there were no costumes like the X-Men gold and black recruitment uniform. Worn by the original five X-Men, The New Mutants and different styles of the suit worn by Kitty Pryde and Pixie. Didn't appear in the Fox movies. This classic, iconic, and simple outfit would be amazing in the mcu for Kitty Pyde, The New Mutants, and Pixie. I would like to see that outfit appear in the mcu. Not every outfit needs to be striking, professional, or cooler to be a hero. Children, teens, and young adults can be heroes too. Either in fiction or real life. Some outfits can be cute, simple, innocent, or creative to be a hero.
@MauricioOMG1231 11 күн бұрын
9:21 cyclops in this image has something pecking out 💀💀💀💀
@northprime_unlimited 15 күн бұрын
I don’t have a problem with the black but they could’ve added yellow trims and piping along the sleeves and chest and maybe made the suit midnight blue. The designs themselves look great.
@brandonspain12345 10 күн бұрын
I feel the Ultimate X-Men comics and X-Men: Evolutions show were good examples of giving the characters yellow outfits but still making them dark and grounded. What's weird is that Bryan Singer claimed is that they were planning on giving them more crazier suit designs for the sequels. (But obviously it wasn't the case until First Class.)
@juanwick1570 13 күн бұрын
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@noahkatzenmeier9576 15 күн бұрын
Love your videos. I appreciate how detailed they are and what I assume you spend a decent portion of your time spent on making these. You’re a GOAT
@joejoyce8031 14 күн бұрын
Ang lees hulk was very profound
@Impulsa2023-uv9jz 15 күн бұрын
Cool stuff! Please make a video about Venom from TASM 3
@taesmith4384 15 күн бұрын
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@gentlemangoldenfreeza3879 15 күн бұрын
I love you do a early design of all 2000s marvel movie pre mcu like daredevil and hulk 2003
@mylesaustinleetaylor2000 15 күн бұрын
Despite me preferring the comic outfits, the black leather is a great look. They could have done a bit more to distinguish those leather suits for each member though imo. I’m excited for MCU X-men’s look. From Beast in the post credits and now Deadpool n Wolverine, we’re going to get great and accurate looks for the X-men from now on
@Jedi_Knigga 13 күн бұрын
As a kid I didn’t care, as I grew up and got into comics I could see why people hated them, but to me I just head cannoned that the movies took place in the Ultimate Universe 😂
@Nin_the_Shinobi 15 күн бұрын
I wonder what spider-man would have looked like with this approach
@jaymesEo6 14 күн бұрын
Alex Ross made his grounded movie suit concept art. It's really interesting if you haven't seen it already.
@brandonspain12345 10 күн бұрын
There are designs by Alex Ross you can find online. The Superior Spider-Man costume was based on the original suit design. Green Goblin ironically looked more like the comics but more teal and black instead of green and purple and more medieval inspired fashion like a hooded cloak and a sword. Once Sam Raimi came along in 2000, he requested a classic red and blue suit. The 2002 video game even had unlockable skins based on the original designs.
@Callmeyassine 15 күн бұрын
Thank you that's what I was waiting for
@TomAhmedXD 15 күн бұрын
it doesn't matter if it's spandex or leather suit, only the design or color scheme itself matters
@circular_entropy3455 13 күн бұрын
Right, because black leather in combat situations is "practical" 😂. In The Matrix it made sense, because they were fighting in a digital world, and weren't supposed to be realistic. In Blade it made sense, because it was still armor that was practical. Here, it makes zero sense whatsoever 😂.
@Trey2dope 5 күн бұрын
This channel is epic af. X Men 2000 is an all time classic, watched it religiously as a child(I was 6 when it came to home media)
@zacharyjochumsen9677 4 күн бұрын
@trey2dope yeh x men 2000 is super classic suphero movi th prty much th frst rel succu mkv based knsuphero team
@joshuataylor7443 15 күн бұрын
What’s your favorite designs and why?
@WarpingFist 15 күн бұрын
I don't really have a favorite. I guess I'll say Wolverine because his design works in live action really well, even without the suit.
@joshuataylor7443 15 күн бұрын
@@WarpingFistNice.
@zacharyjochumsen9677 8 күн бұрын
@@WarpingFistcyclops and storm ones look prtyy cool but blsck leather outfits lok coller since th fit th workd bit better
@joshuataylor7443 6 сағат бұрын
@@zacharyjochumsen9677 Like there designs to become they look similar to there Jim Lee looks.
@leonardfabian8942 10 күн бұрын
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@MrQdiddy85 4 күн бұрын
16:34 that under wolverine looks like a sleek Batman
@Xcutioner220 10 күн бұрын
I dig the Black Leather suit from the film. I especially liked the tight black leather suit on the women. What a great time for comic book films and films in general.
@COOLERthenU 3 сағат бұрын
That's a gross thing to admit
@Xcutioner220 3 сағат бұрын
@@COOLERthenU What a time for great movies and woman being only used as eye candy? Let me you those are great things we need again.
@OpticBlast-yk5hf 7 күн бұрын
10:01 I actually like that Cyclops costume.
@rectangledgalaxy8033 15 күн бұрын
What a great video.
@jacksynquiroz9168 15 күн бұрын
WarpingFist when a movie starts development when do they usually start doing the conceptual art and concept designs for a film and what do they do to the artwork after the film done with development Ps great video 👍👍
@MrDman21 14 күн бұрын
What's with all these comic characters with pouches on their costumes? Did everybody just copy off of Rob Liefeld? 😂
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 15 күн бұрын
I love the fox X-Men movies
@hectorgabrielsanchez6929 15 күн бұрын
Michael Jackson could have been Professer X
@natto4now 15 күн бұрын
Why does it look like wolverine has an xlr8 head shape?
@WarpingFist 15 күн бұрын
because he did
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 15 күн бұрын
He does look like xlr8
@bigcat7508 15 күн бұрын
Black Leather outfits good.
@leonardfabian8942 10 күн бұрын
No
@AlessioAlessi 14 күн бұрын
Beside the costumes, also the casting for this movie was not so comic book accurate. Hugh Jackman is now The Wolverine for anyone, but he doesn't look anything like the Wolverine from the comics. The same applies to Cyclops (he is shorter than anyone!) and Magneto!
@JoaoGuilherme-hp6zs 15 күн бұрын
These early costumes looks cool & stylish do you think ?
@sneakyfox5 15 күн бұрын
They missed the point. 🤦
@ultimateslinger9857 14 күн бұрын
I get his reasoning and really enjoy these movies, but having mutant abilities at all is just as unrealistic as having more comic booky uniforms. So it’s kinda like why not do it if it’s already unrealistic to begin with?
@petermj1098 14 күн бұрын
X-Men first class did the classic yellow and blue suits and it felt natural. They could have done the yellow and blue suits the same way.
@ultimateslinger9857 13 күн бұрын
@@petermj1098 Agreed. I actually just rewatched first class recently. I forgot how good it was. I really wish they kept making X-men movies like that one instead of apocalypse and dark Phoenix. I can’t dis days of future past that one was pretty great
@Kusanagikaiser999 4 күн бұрын
as much I love X2 and Days of the Future Past films, the one element I always FOREVER HATE is these black boring ass costumes they used, Mystique been the only exception, I'm so glad X-MEN 97 have revived the love for the 90´s look of the X-Men and I'm pretty sure the MCU will probably lean more on these classic designs than bring back the black boring leather suits.
@maxxgunner5573 6 күн бұрын
3:55 I would give those ppl the 🐦for thinking such blasphemy. Not to mention they're the same ppl I've met who were book burners and bullies.
@LightningZetton 15 күн бұрын
for a sec I thought u were sponsered by raid shadow legends. its 2024
@retrohero2762 15 күн бұрын
Idk Ive always thought a bunch of powered mfs in a team running in black leather feels less realistic than wearing colored uniforms at the very least. Such a dumb misguided approach to the X-Men's visual identity.
@WarpingFist 15 күн бұрын
Right, I feel as a world where people are born with superpowers is pretty fantastical already. Might as well embrace the costumes.
@Pink_Scarab 6 күн бұрын
Kinda annoyed by Brian Singer. Mainly because he directed a movie based on a comic book but hasn’t read much comics or even intrigued by them. Makes more sense now why the X-men movies became lackluster. No comic book accuracy 😒
@anderson9244MLG 15 күн бұрын
Tbh,this is preferable than the bland modern MCU costumes that we have today
@brandonspain12345 10 күн бұрын
What about Wolverine's actual yellow suit from Deadpool & Wolverine?
@anderson9244MLG 10 күн бұрын
@@brandonspain12345 good at first,the more I look at it,the more meh it becomes, I wish they went all out with the tiger stripes like on its shoulders instead of replacing it with the typical MCU lines and shapes that tries so hard to be high tech,and the sleeveless version sucks because they got rid the part that makes the original design great,the shoulder pads
@rodrigomarcondes5857 6 күн бұрын
if you know anything about Bryan Singer's private life, you would not be surprised at all why he likes black leather suits.
@meep8279 15 күн бұрын
brian singer the pdf file
@memes3751 15 күн бұрын
It’s Hollywood. Half of it is pdfiles
@aurahoneydew9607 14 күн бұрын
Oddly enough we are actually now worse off then back then(with marvel and DC), then didn't have the look but had the heart and effort while now it's kinda the look only for it to be mock by itself or a halfhearted pacify the fans for a second. Like nowadays they'll have the suit as background props or worn only to ripped off by the character as the character talks how it's either too much or silly.
@leonardfabian8942 10 күн бұрын
Wtf are you taking about the costumes are even more accurate now more then ever.
@aurahoneydew9607 10 күн бұрын
@@leonardfabian8942 nope not even close they add a hint of the color scheme but the designs are wrong. Only time they went for it fully was OG the first two Spider-Man since one was mainstream the other ultimate, Deadpool and the BvS batsuit.
@zacharyjochumsen9677 4 күн бұрын
Wqrpingfust do think thse outfits coud srk as th ere repoued for x mens outfits inth mucu
@krono5el 10 күн бұрын
singer failed at making a good x-men movie but made an ok random super hero movies i guess.
@13oogie 10 күн бұрын
Because it was fox
@al0ntai 15 күн бұрын
Personally, I think superhero movies should be more campy. Comics are made for kids.
@hjcb2976 15 күн бұрын
Not anymore
@xXLu06Xx 14 күн бұрын
*laughs in Punisher MAX by Garth Ennis*
@DarkLord-hl1fi 14 күн бұрын
Eh idk about that you can balance both
@brandonspain12345 10 күн бұрын
Ant Man and the Wasp Quantumania? The Marvels? The Flash? She Hulk? Thor: Love & Thunder? Blue Beetle? Aquaman 2? You need to watch more movies...
@TheOvervoid 5 күн бұрын
You've never read a comic, have you?
@Bigchilezlife 2 күн бұрын
FOX universe failed to give us real X-Men attire! People never learn from reading comic books.
@vortecmacs 10 күн бұрын
Bryan Singer failed. Miserably.
@PrinceOnyx 10 күн бұрын
Singer’s vision sucked when it came to the uniforms. He isn’t a true fan of X-Men and his directing wasn’t the best either! Always leaving set and or not showing up some days! Glad he’s no longer a factor when it comes to directing! The older sketches were far better!
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