Someone should talk to Tim Miller.. All e stand-up fights and typical bug hunts.. ..And Arcturians..

@Travis Happy RE: "I would love to see a movie that was just about colonial marines and space navy." For some excellent books about space marines and space navy, see the following: The Heritage Trilogy Books Semper Mars (1998) Luna Marine (1999) Europa Strike (2000) The Legacy Trilogy Books Star Corps (2003) Battlespace (2006) Star Marines (2007) The Inheritance Trilogy Books Star Strike (2008) Galactic Corps (2008) Semper Human (2009) TheStar Carrier Books Earth Strike (2010) Center of Gravity (2011) Singularity (2012) Deep Space (2013) Dark Matter (2014) Deep Time (2015) Dark Mind (2017) Bright Light (2018) Stargods (2020) NOTE: All of the above books are written by Ian Douglas Reference:www.bookseriesinorder.com/ian-douglas/

Well, that would be just 'spacey'

Yes lol

Yes, and so were the 60's :-)

No

GenX all the way!

They are responsible for events of today so.........

+ThePalaeontologist Could say that about lots of things in the Alien/Predator universe in general. The aliens themselves could be considered The Flood and the Predators as the Elites. Sgt Johnson is basically Apone and even the Flood ambush scene in Halo 1 is similar to the Alien ambush scene in Aliens.

​@@nicegy0197 Oh absolutely, I know that there are a lot of ways to compare them. HALO:CE was hailed as the big time successor of both Quake and before that Doom (from a gaming history perspective) when it was released. I wouldn't have known at the time, only in retrospect. I learnt more about HALO after it's golden era of sorts, having only briefly played HALO:CE (2001) in 2001, as a kid at a relatives. Sadly never had that sort of experience with the HALO games. I do remember loving those rare times I got to play HALO:CE though; and it was always just sort of there in the background as something I knew others loved (the HALO franchise in general) But I never had any games myself. I always had Gamecube + PS2 games for most of the rise of HALO games and lore. The odd (often out of context but cool looking) youtube video about HALO game cinematics here, a random chat about Master Chief there etc. I was always mainly Star Wars and LOTR/Tolkien fan. But I love sci-fi in general (including of course, the wonderful Alien franchise) I have learnt a lot about the HALO universe from afar, I guess, without being a HALO gamer. I read the HALO lore a lot. Alien (1979) itself drew a lot of inspiration from ''STAR WARS" 1977 (pre-episodic switcheroo by Lucas, renaming it A New Hope/Episode IV) I know it is potentially unpopular to necessarily compare a space opera (SW) with a sci-fi horror (Alien), though in all fairness there are many comparisons to be made. In the making of Alien (1979), Ridely Scott had to pull out a fair few stops to do what he did on a shoestring budget. Star Wars itself, was a hit and miss process in it's conception, and American studios outright kicked it out after their fears of it being yet another weird and unpopular sci-fi flop (sci-fi until 1977, had in a general sense, fallen into a malaise in the film industry - with different genres surpassing the previous hype surrounding space exploration and all things futuristic, after the hype of the space race and the Apollo Moon landings wore off a bit; the last one, being in 1972 in terms of actually manned missions by NASA) Star Wars had appeared at a time when sci-fi was slightly degenerated into a weird throwback to either 1950's B Movie-like sparkly spandex utopias boringly written and with even more ridiculous acting - or it went to a depressing theme. Not going to name too many names but things like the TV series Logan's Run, epitomises that side of the story. Logan's Run (1976), depicts what is a dystopian future society, where population and resource consumption are strictly managed by the simple notion of killing everyone who reaches the age of thirty. How lovely and not at all depressing. However, alternatively, there were even grimmer aspects to sci-fi immediately pre-1977. Cue Sean Connery running round in clothing (putting it generously) apparently off his tits on acid in (I'm joking but just watch the film and you'll know what I mean, it's crazy) ZARDOZ (1974) A staggeringly jarring and disjointed attempt at sci-fi fantasy and action, that comes off more as a surreal and dystopian fever dream which gives the impression that everyone involved in it was on some kind of wild drugs) It was a reflection of the grim fatalism of the time. A recurring theme in a lot of sci-fi in this time, was a sort of Cold War inspired melancholy and negativity. Oil problems, recessions, urban deterioration, economic stagnation and dystopian outlooks on a world overshadowing by the spectre of nuclear annihilation, may have had some part in it. The grim themes in a lot of major and minor sci-fi work in the early-mid 1970's, tended to veer sharply from utopian glitz and glamour with pristine and aloof aliens, having dated and old hat escapades with shockingly bad dialogue, trying too hard to be something more original or marketable to a lot of people. Star Wars 1977, in the eyes of the American studios (and the British studios later in the development), seemed nothing more than a goofy, bizarre script which nearly spooked some of the big names (such as Sir Alec Guinness) right out of taking part. Famously, Sir Alec Guinness was basically like, ''I don't want this to ruin my career" and he was concerned it was a quack storyline which nobody would buy. Ironically, it became the role most after 1977 would remember him for as Obi Wan Kenobi/Old Ben. After American film studios withdrew support and funds, as Lucas's dream seemed too far-fetched (seeming so bizarre in the out of context filming sessions to most filming crews), Lucas turned to the British for help - he went to studios in England, UK, such as Pinewood Studios but even more so (for the 1977 film) Elstree Studios (sometimes called, ''the Birthplace of Star Wars") British studios saved Star Wars. It could have ended there and then in 1976 (it was released later in 1977, behind schedule) Yet, Lucas had notorious clashes with the perplexed British filming crews over work hours, tea breaks, British union labour regulations and the way the film seemed to be so strange in itself. Few on the set believed in what it was about and yet they went along with it, mostly concerned they were making a dud/flop film that would reflect poorly on the studio. The massive impact of Star Wars 1977 cannot be understated...it redefined the very meaning of blockbuster (after JAWS 1975 had itself, seemingly done so, two years earlier) Spielberg's success with Jaws, was a tough one to beat; but Star Wars did it hands down. Totally vindicating itself (and putting egg on the faces of anyone naysaying it previously), Star Wars not only triumphed on it's own merits, but it veritably catapulted sci-fi and space operas into the limelight in a way they'd not been (in such a dignified and serious manner) since the 1930's. Legitimately, what Lucas had done, was build a masterpiece that evoked the ambition and foresight of Metropolis (1927) and yet to create a Greek Tragedy inspired universe in a space and sci-fi setting. To revive a struggling genre in times when it was falling out of fashion or already had. Film industry history can be segmented into various times per genre or as a whole; and ''before Star Wars'' is certainly a provable example. Star Wars changed the game, not just for the upbeat good vs evil tales in it's own story (in a self-contained sense, within Episode IV) but it also did the entire spectrum of sci-fi and space fantasy, a *massive* favour. It also inspired a tonne of copycats and poor imitations at best; but it had changed the game with groundbreaking special effects just for a start. Star Wars, when brand new in 1977, was a evolutionary as well as revolutionary. On paper it seemed crazy (a stereotypical starry eyed hero and idealistic farmboy goes off to defeat an evil Empire under the guidance of a space wizard and is helped out be a princess, a humanoid dog and a debonair smuggler) You can see on the face of it, why film studios might be like, ''Oh another cheesy B movie yawn'' - totally missing the reality of what Star Wars was actually about. On the face of it, there is admittedly stilted dialogue in some scenes (Hamill, Fisher and Ford, all teased Lucas on how cheesy some of their lines were) In a sense, Lucas's own inspirations in 1950's Saturday morning sci-fi film serials and Flash Gordon style cheese fests, as well as Samurai films, hadn't let him stray too far from the formula so to speak. But he had a totally grander vision than any sci-fi prior. Point in me explaining all this, being that it directly led to things we see in Alien. The practical effects, serious musical score, classic archetypal themes and of course the special effects, in Star Wars, certainly inspired things in Alien. Indeed, the very success of Star Wars, led film studios to clamour for their own hit sci-fi movie. At a stroke, George Lucas had made sci-fi truly ''cool'' again and everyone wanted a piece of the action. Star Wars made so much money that it allowed Lucas to privately bankroll the second film, in what he originally wanted to be a three part story with a clear beginning, middle and end (but later on, it was kind of reworked into the narrative claim that it was always planned to have 6 films in a saga, which is only true in some ways) Alien drew an awful lot of inspiration from older sci-fi films such as Planet of the Vampires (1965), but more than that, it drew inspiration aesthetically from Star Wars. There are clear comparisons to be made for both Star Wars 1977 and Alien 1979: - Retro (even by late 70's standards) computer consoles and control panels. - Model miniatures for the space ships (though Ridley Scott's shoestring budget made it very difficult for him to emulate a fraction of the success of the props and miniatures used in Star Wars - including being unable to show the Nostromo doing much more than tracking slowly in one direction) Complex motions and actions were not possible with the equipment and funds available to Scott. Though Lucas had himself been on a relatively tight budget, Alien was made for just 11 million USD (Prometheus 2012, had a budget of 130 million USD by comparison) A really constraining budget that had tonnes of problems they had to work around (including borrowing laser lights from a Pink Floyd music recording in the studio next to theirs, and using the children of the producers to wear space suits in zoomed out shots next to modelled sets that were half the size Scott wanted them to be originally - namely, the Space Jockey scene, that piloting room; not that the audience knew it was one at the time necessarily) All sorts of cost cutting measures. Lucas had to go through similar problems to make Star Wars (his first cut was a disaster in his own estimations) They had to fight hard to get their films down to a fine art. It was both directors at their best, in my opinion. [1/3]

@@nicegy0197 [3/3] Similarly, Scott wanted mostly fresh acting talent to gamble on hitting the big time. Some actors like John Hurt and particularly Ian Holm, were already great actors; but Weaver and the majority of her cast mates, were newer and it was her big moment. In Hollywood, it was considered safer to hire as many well-known names and play it safe that way. But both Lucas and Scott, took big gambles and they paid off massively. Especially for Lucas, of course, financially alone. Both Star Wars and Alien, are masterpieces in their own right, when viewed in proper context. HALO draws inspiration from Alien and many other things. You mentioned Predator; I would agree that to some extent, there are aspects of the Predators/Yautja in the HALO universe. The Sangheli are a take on the strikingly mandibular Yautja, and share an ancient warrior culture obsessed with single combat and melee weapons. They can proficiently utilise firearms/plasma casters of course, but that isn't the point. The Sangheli are more humanised than the Yautja by far, but are the HALO universe's answer to them. I can see the comparisons between the parasitic lifecycle of the Xenomorphs, and the Flood in how they corrupt things. Of course, the so-called, ''perfect organism'', as the Xenomorph is ascribed to be, needs hosts. So does the Flood. However, of course there are massive differences as well. Alien's Xenomorphs, are more akin to the Tyranids of WH40K - and yes, Alien certainly must have inspired Tyranids to a very large extent (just look at them) Nids are like Xenomorphs on god-tier steroids and then some. The UNSC is clearly inspired by the Colonial Space Marines in James Cameron's Aliens (1986) The aesthetic similarities are pretty cut and dry to be honest. Stylistically, I think that the comparisons are just so compelling that they cannot be overlooked. However, the idea of Spartan ''super soldiers'', is not necessarily conveyed. That is more of it's own thing, inspired by different matters. The Forerunners are harder to compare with Alien for one very good reason; at the point we get to Forerunner levels of technological ability, it's pretty much gone way beyond anything you see in the Alien universe - save for perhaps, 1 thing; the Engineers. The full power and extent of the Engineers is clearly, still unknown. But whatever the Engineers/''Space Jockeys'', really are capable of, they are not as clearly defined as the Forerunners. The Forerunners were the masters of the lion's share of the strategically valuable planets in their version of the Milky Way Galaxy - the extent of the Engineers is probably on a Galactic/interstellar level as well. But if the Engineers are intergalactic/i.e.multi-galactic in reach and scope? I don't know. I doubt it though. Probably just in the Milky Way. 100,000 plus light years is enough for anyone to play with. Their advanced hyper-sleep shown in Prometheus, keeping one Engineer perfectly fine for 2,000 years, shows that their technology is way beyond everything else in it's own franchise. As Hypersleep is a convenience based tool to save life, sanity and comfort in long voyages, as well as the matter of food resources etc, the fact the Engineers can go into hypersleep for millennia and be fine, says something about them. But it still doesn't mean they necessarily have a multi-galactic reach, not by default. However, even the Engineers don't really compare to the Forerunners entirely (but the comparison is good enough to work for the purposes of making fair overviews) I'd say the Forerunners are still way, way beyond the Engineers technologically. Different league really. Functionally, the Engineers are closer to the Precursors as life seeders - but technologically, the Engineers are inferior to the Forerunners, let alone the Precursors. Besides, the Forerunners themselves excelled at Lifeworking and Bioengineering - among many other things (though the Engineers would be reviled at the artificial intelligence and robotics technology of the Forerunners - see how they hated humans let alone human made androids) NOTE: In 1979, we got nowhere near the detail on the Space-Jockeys as we know now since 2012, Prometheus. This makes comparing Forerunners and Engineers strictly retroactive to Alien 1979 itself. P.S - Forerunners are like a way more technologically powerful version of the Engineers. I think they'd make short work of the Engineers - but the Flood are their own nightmare (only the likes of Time Lords, Daleks, Xeelee, the Culture and Photino Birds, would ''easily'' beat the Flood; but if the Flood get time machines, god help the universe lol)

Absolutely!

@@ThePalaeontologist You know your stuff! Great read!

It's good for you, boy, eat it.

Paul Yuen 😂🤣🤪

i guess you don't like the cornbread either

Ayo can someone do a knife Trick man?

@@SCREAMshot6781 that wasn’t funny man.

so I'm not the only one to see that. It always looked like the pulse rifle to me since day one.

@@swifty1969 I heard it was built from the pulse rifle models used in the film

@@captainblack1021 really!! no wonder then.

@@captainblack1021 Heard the same thing.

@John Stroud ... You mean a Tediore looks like the Sulaco...

:(

@Sammy That could very well come true, thanks to Lego Ideas.

I'm pissed off for you man, goddamn that fucking sucks.

it look like giant gun

when was this?

That's on purpose, it was designed to look like an M41A Pulse Rifle. 😁

was based on rifle

Agreed. Yes, I was just going to say the same thing, except to beat me to it by a week :-)

I always thought it looked like a prawn.

I have never owned any type of weapon and would never use one on someone if I did. So screw you

It wasn't anything new though it could have quite easily been in Star Wars and it looks very much like a Battle Star Galactica ship.

joe man 😔....you got me...

joe man I was with my parents genius

joe man first of all my parents would. Here in America a minor under 17 is allowed in a R rated movie accompanied by an adult, it is not up to the theater worker it’s the law. Also Aliens isn’t horror but more a action movie. So, next time do some research before you stick your foot in your mouth.🙄

​@@joeman8523 Dude, not all mothers are squeamish. My mother let me and my siblings watch horror movies starting at ages 3-5. Alien and The Thing are two of my earliest movie memories, though recorded from HBO when they first aired. Those VHS were well used. I was about 6 when Aliens was in the theater, but I'm not sure if we went or waited for it on cable. I wouldn't be surprised if we did go to the theater, especially the drive-in. My siblings and I loved it. My mother knew we could handle it. :)

joe man Bwahaha! What a loser, sorry you had such lame parents. Must of lived a very rich, sheltered life. Go away pretty rich boy, the street lights are coming on. Edit : instead of worrying about movies your parents should have taught you not to use such bad language. Lmfao.

Burke got corked and dorked

@Cataclysmic Dildoser😂😅

And yet it's still just a support class vessel only...

I had it years ago, sadly it was lost in a flood. I remember the description though and it sounds the same as the one in Blueprints, so I'll have to check that out now

Just bought a month a go it's cool as hell.

It's a great book £20.99 on Amazon

Still have mine and will never let it go

The present day Tarawa class and Wasp class assault ships has more crew and soldiers..

Maybe WY intentionally want very few people for e mission...

Totally lame - also them being hypersleep for the crew when it was only a 17 day trip. Many unrealistic aspects of this whole film.

@@tellucas The IA is irrelevant to this case since John is speaking in terms of an EMERGENCY or a required evacuation from Orbit. The IA on it's own can do nothing and requires direct instruction from the team on ground to do something. - In contrast having a crew or at least someone on board as a backup/rescue team, would provide direct response if they loose contact with the other team on the ground. Of course, this backup team was deleted from the crew because the film required the ENTIRE team on LV_246 for the plot to actually work. - On top of that the intelligence of the Special Marine forces got dumbed down heavily specially during combat situations, for example the original massacre where they lost amunition and leadership happened just because the plot required that the soldiers forgot the "fallback" command when they realized that something was surrounding them in high numbers. - As for Weyland Yutani, there is a huge plot convenience about the derelict ship, for about 30+ years the Company terraformed the planet yet for the gigantic ship to be found, a message from Burke (based upon's Ripleys coordenates) and a random family of explorers was required. A multi-trillion dolar company interesed in the species could do nothing until a survivor told them where to look in the planet THEY already explored, terraformed and colonized 30 years before that such survivor appeared. - Long story short, the ONLY possible plot for Weyland Yutani is that they lost interest after the Nostromo incident, the subsequent exploration on LV_426, wich sended negative data on the aliens convinced them that such species went exint or that the Nostromo gave the wrong position report. Thru this, them sending HALF the normal taskforce into the Sulaco makes no sense at all, then once again, the film is FILLED with enough plot conveniences (for the 3 main characters) to make the "God Mode" in some videogames look irrelevant.

@@PointReflex I wasn't aware the marines in Aliens were special forces? My impression was they were expendable misfits sent under command of a complete novice. It's almost as if WY intended them to be wiped out and a sample of the alien captured by Burke and Bishop. "Crew expendable" works best for WY with fewer people asking questions. Keeping the colonists away from the derelict is simply a case of telling them the area is lethal until terraforming has progressed far enough. On the point above about hypersleep for a 17 day trip, doesn't travelling at a significant portion of lightspeed do odd things to time? It's probably a simple way to protect the crew from adverse effects.

no chance! you know that term..."they don't make them like they used to". Even Ridley scott himself has become a has been include Steven Spielberg. As for James Cameron.....well! we'll see how the Avatar sequels pans out.

couldn't the crew isolated themselves in the towing ship they could have brought the Nostromo back if you noticed the disconnect part,

noticed that too, it could have banked (rolled left or right)

It ought to-they copied the design of the Sulaco

Imo it's one of the best space ship designs of any franchise.

Funny thing about the Sulaco, is that during production, James Cameron told the production people that he imagined the ship as a gun in space...

Actually the Morita II you see at the end of Starship Troopers is a homage to the Sulaco

Probably internal security

Now imagine Mega Maid from Spaceball using this ship as Gun 😂

LOL I've not seen Spaceballs in years!

David, Yeah, It always bugged me that there wasn’t a flight crew.

Maybe Blomkamp or Miller can help us.. Something like a remake or sequel to Soldier or Universal Soldiers..

There are Alien RPG sourcebooks available on hard copy or PDF that have received favorable reviews and seem to allow for non-xenomorph storytelling (I want to someday read them for the same reason you described…)

I slowed it the video down and it drops frame rate. Thanks dude

Hmmm...he says "nuclear" as "nyook U lar" rather than "nyook LEE ar", though...

@@bettyswunghole3310 we can't all be perfect

@@danieltucker3506 True, but pronouncing "nuclear" wrong is a real schoolboy error.

@@bettyswunghole3310 they invented English so I defer to him lol Vitamin is the word they say that makes me giggle

@@danieltucker3506 "different _than_ " is the expression that puzzles me...

If you read the colonial marines technical manual the level of thought they've put in to explaining the technology that wasn't even on screen is pretty impressive.

A computer controls the ship navigation etc

Also, fun bit. As you approach the speed of light, you experience Time Dilation, where time aboard your ship passes slower, so when you arrive at your destination, weeks may have passed for you but years have passed in the rest of the universe. With the Tachyon shunt, you get the reverse, having Time Expansion, time passing faster aboard the ship while it is in Hyperspace. This is the reason for the Hypersleep capsules, so that in the weeks it takes you to reach your destination, you aren't experiencing potentially years of time during transit.

in reference to the Dune universe......traveling without moving.

Simon Davies actually,it WASNT destroyed.True,Ripley,Newt and Hicks along with Bishop were ejected in the 335 Model EEV unit,but the ship itself DID NOT blow up. Bishop even confirmed this to Ripley when she briefly reconnected him after recovering him from the trash bin.as to when the Company recovered the Sulaco,we can only speculate.but since she was on autopilot and her course was preset and would only change if there was a manual change in destination,we can assume that she would have arrived back in the Sol System by herself.

@@Pekingesejedi - Hmmmm interesting... I thought there was a fire onboard, the 3 survivors were ejected from the Sulaco to prevent them 'going down with the ship'? Why eject them if the ship was NOT in mortal danger of destruction? Just saying and maybe other readers of our comments would like to also comment on this...

@@DaviesMartinezBeats If you go by "Aliens: Colonial Marines" (I don't, by the way), Weyland-Yutani Corp "repurposed" (hijacked) the Sulaco to use as a mobile Xenomorph Studies Lab during Ripley and Company's hypersleep nap. During the journey, a firefight with WY synthetics and mercs versus prisoners/colonists nicked a facehugger on Ripley and sprayed the acid blood on circuitry that caused the fire and dumped "Hicks" (in reality some schmuck with the same injuries and dressed the same as Hicks that was put in his hypersleep chamber while they were interrogating the real Corporal) and Newt and Ripley into the escape capsule. They then proceeded to fly the Sulaco back to LV-426 (Acheron) and transmit Hicks' Distress Call and begin the events of the game there. My own theory on the fate of the USS Sulaco was that after the fire broke out, the electrical damage to the ship would have left her adrift. Just floating out there in space...waiting, possibly with an extra surprise or two, for some unlucky salvage crew to find the ship. An Alien version of The Mary Celeste, if you will...

@@ShadowStoryteller - Hmmm, thanks for your input ShadowStoryteller. It still begs the question though "Why eject 4 capsules into space if the Sulaco did not blow up"? (Due to facehugger damage)...

@@DaviesMartinezBeats That's why I figured electrical damage from the fire. The system more then likely shorted the ejection system, causing the hypersleep chambers to enter their assigned EEV pods on a gravity system (not an electrical system or a hydrolic system for problems like this or hydrolic lines being cut on the way down and jamming the capsule in the ship as it's getting destroyed or some other problem) and ejecting the pods as an emergency measure was standard. Maybe they were not supposed to if there was no one in the hypersleep chamber but the electrical damage triggered the pods to automatically drop. The damage possibly shorted biosensors in the system to just drop them all into EEV pods and eject them. I only know a tiny bit about electrical engineering and computer stuff, but I figure that might be the reason. I also think of it as just another problem not addressed during the mess that is Alien 3's production, but that's an out of lore explanation. In lore, you have the "official" version (which is crap, by the way) and there are dozens of fan theories...and you've heard my fan theory.

real soldiers don't behave this way, know thy enemy, 12 foot creatures that kill on site, bug hunt, your having a laugh, but was good so let them off.

Someone said illegal alien and she signed up

That's basically exactly what Jim Cameron wanted.

You can. Zeta II reticuli is a real system. From the southern hemisphere the pair can be seen as a naked eye double star in very dark skies. Based upon parallax measurements, this system is located at a distance of about 39.3 light-years (12.0 parsecs) from Earth.