Halt! I have two things. 1: I think you are taking this wrong. A lot, and I mean A LOT of you are talking about how its capitalist or anti capitalist and all about money. It isn't. If you pay attention you see that they're talking about essentially remaking the world from scratch, not profiting from it. Instead setting it up "perfectly". Mr. House is the only one who brings up "significant earning potential". But he's House, that's kind of his thing. So it isn't about money, its about "everyone wants to save the world. They just disagree about how." And they're kind of right. Hypothetically a society that was constructed instead of created through natural progression would probably be a lot more efficient and peaceful than the alternative. But obviously, don't be nuking the world. 2: There has been some confusion on these companies and why they are here. Rob-Co, West-tek, Repconn, Big MT. I will explain why each of them are present at this meeting and how it doesn't change anything about previous fallout lore. Mr. house/Rob-Co: So basically the main bit of confusion here is that Mr. House claims to have calculated when the bombs will drop in 2065, yet here it seems as though he got the information from this Vault-Tec meeting. It makes most sense that he is actually at this meeting because he did calculate it. Since he was making preparations it makes sense to make connections with vault-tec, connections which probably landed him a seat at this meeting. He also may have used this meeting to stock vault 21 with supplies he needed for his plans for Vegas. West-Tek: West-tek made the FEV (Forced Evolutionary Virus). They had it at several locations including their West Virgina research location, the Mariposa military base and most importantly for here, vault 87. Vault 87 is the origin of super mutants in fallout 3. It would make sense for West-Tek to want to set up various different FEV research centres. The Mariposa base for direct military oversight, the West Virgina location was to test its effects on an unsuspecting population slowly, something taht couldn't really be done in a laboratory enviroment, and vault 87 would be perfect since they could control 100% of their test subjects diets, exercise, water intake, and well everything else. Not to mention that all of the pre war vault dwellers that entered vault 87 weren't expected to re emerge. A perfect environment for such experimentation. Repconn: This is the strangest one. Repconn made rockets and worked on plasma rifle prototypes. Vault-Tec originally in some external material was going to colonize the moon as a puppet for the Enclave to bugger off to after the bombs destroyed everything. So they would need rockets for that goal. There is also the Vault-Tec: Among the Stars at Nuka world so clearly space is still something of a priority for them. I also seem to recall something about plasma rifles in a vault though can't remember what specifically. But most relevantly, Mr. House purchased Repconn so the Repconn representative here would have been essentially a puppet for Mr. House. Giving him two votes more or less, which is a very House thing to do. Since as we know, the house always wins. Big MT: So this isn't a scientist, its Sinclair from the Serria Madre. So we don't know how much the doctors from old world blues actually were involved here. But whats important is that doctor Borous says that Vault-tec was best at these types of experiments and went on to talk about how they had to build fake cities for communist test subjects. So Borous was aware of these vault experiments and had some intimate knowledge about them before the bombs dropped, since the big MT lost all communication with the outside world after that happened. Since this was such a closely guarded secret the only way Borous could know this would be if he was involved somehow, like if he was part of a conspiracy. So all of this makes perfect lore sense. No retcons or contradictions.

Benny was right.. The game was rigged from the start.

The part where he hears his wife say they’d drop the bombs themselves and pretty much goes into shock, terrific acting

I like how mr house is basically like "This is a fucking stupid idea wtf do we get out of this? A destroyed world with limited resources"

It’s funny, House talked quite a bit without actually saying anything. He never revealed his leanings or positions to anyone. And yet whenever he posed an inquiry, he always got an answer. House was in control here. Reassuring to see they actually did him justice.

My jaw drops every time they start naming all the f***** up vaults in the game, this moment alone was awesome.

Imagine this. This whole meeting repeated in Cooper's mind when the bombs were dropped in episode 1. He remembered all of this and who did it. That wasn't horror that flashed in his eyes. It was realization and the ultimate kind of betrayal.

Atypical corporate business model in a nutshell... "The people of the planet have no need for our product... So let's create that need"

"Mr. Howard huge fan. Henry, but everyone calls me Maud'Dib".

Having been invested in the series for 15+ years, it's shocking, but not at all surprising to hear that Vault Tec was behind their own country's destruction.

You can TELL, that the writers not only played the games but Learned all of the lore.they reference vaults that you would only know the story of by Reading through terminals and Notes. I wish the halo TV show learned from these guys instead of bragging about not knowing a thing about the IP

love the fact house was the only ceo who didn't pitch an idea for the vaults. He didn't say anything about making weird vault like west-tek and etc. Look at him now from what we know he the only one remaining from table who still on the surface building something new

I consider this a legendary twist. Puts the entirely of the Fallout universe in a whole new light.

I like how they used the companies. House being a voice of dissent is consistent enough with his game persona and it would be interesting to see how New Vegas and him might appear in the next season.

1:30 This is a great example of Walton Goggon’s acting skills. You can see the shock and pain just in his eyes. Not to belittle Frances Turner’s excellent portrayal of a two faced maniac who gave me vibes that she might actually love her family.

The fact that after decades we find that vault tec is the main villain in fallout universe

God this plan was so stupid. No wonder house abandoned immediately and decided to do his own thing instead. He was the only one in the room with any sense whatsoever.

This plot twist was first conceived with the writing of the 1998 film script. Since Fallout 2, there has been subtle nods, hints, and references that Vault-Tec had something to do with the Great War. An "Always Has Been" that was everpresent in the games, but never explicitly stated until now. One example of this is the nuke in Megaton having the Vault-Tec logo, and the missile silos in Fallout 76 containing Vault-Tec equipment. A scrapped Vault in New Vegas (24) would have been located near real life Sugar Bunker, where nuclear testing was performed. These are just a few of all the nods that were made to the inevitable truth.

Making Barabara a bloodthirsty corporate woman was a master stroke on the writer's part

1:38 That look of pain is heartbreaking. The moment he realizes that his wife is a monster. 💔

1:32 I was in SOOO much shock at this scene, immediately turning into respect for Walter Goggins's reaction then turning into the endless urge to quick save the game & punch his wife in the face.

When she said “by dropping the bomb ourselves” i sat up in my seat so fast!!

So she just senteced her daughter life to death by starting the nuclear war while she is at a birthday party?

I KNEW IT. That opening scene of the series with the detonations in Los Angeles, all of the explosions looked like they happened at ground level, instead of ICBM launched airburst warheads. Those bombs were PLANTED on the ground beforehand.

Because at Vault-Tec, your safety is our number one priority.

So this is the literal in-universe reason why all of Fallout’s Vault ecosystems throughout the series are so different. That’s really damn brilliant!

3:15 That famous line. And she spoke it perfectly

Throughout the show his wife keeps talking about the bombs dropping as an inevitable fact. This is most evident in the conversation she has with him about no dogs in the vaults. She keeps saying "when" the world ends not "if" the world will end.

"Demons playing chess with people"- don't know where the quote comes from but it sure does describe these powerful people

I don't know why but this scene gave me chills because I can only assume conversations like this happen between big corporate scum like Raytheon, Blackrock, GSK, Google and who knows what other corporations. To hear your wife whom you think the world of talk about privatizing the end of the world is horrifying

Insane feeling watching this meeting that could only come from this type of show. I (and other fans) spent hours walking through destroyed vaults, gleaning the horrors of the experiments through holotapes, terminal entries, and corpses. To see a group of people in a room actually planning the vaults was mindblowing. Each offhand concept these executives suggest brought me back to the moment I actually found the vaults they're suggesting here.

This scene was so great, the moment they start naming experiments from some of the games made my jaw drop

One of the strongest season finale episodes I’ve ever seen. It’s just so on point from start to finish. It’s incredible.

After the scene I view the conversation with the vault tec rep at the start of fallout 4 so much more differently now. He knew more than he let on

Vault Tec swears they’re so smart but they could barely manage to keep the vaults running and they can’t even destroy the surface world right

1:33 the most evil wife/mother in history

note how all these 'ideas' that are come up with, Mr. House doesn't come up with any of them. only one he may have come up with is people settling disputes over a game of poker, aka Vault 21

“We bomb ourselves, to make ourselves money”

its scary how real this can become.

They referenced some of the vaults from the games 0:50 Vault 34 (New Vegas) 1:06 Sounds like Vault 87 (Fallout 3) 1:11 Vault 106 (Fallout 3) (Edit) The overcrowding vault was actually Vault 27 like some mentioned. Also the Repconn person mentioned Vault 51 from Fallout 76 with the “milk delivery robot.”

They earned their "war never changes" moment, they could've had Ron Perlman do his little speech at the beginning of the series for fanservice, but they decided to build up to it and it landed SO HARD. This series went above and beyond my expectations, and I hope they do so again with Season 2

Walton Goggins deserves every award possible for his role as the ghoul. He might go down as one of the greatest tv characters ever.

The fact that this is the moment where every piece of the puzzle got to its designated place the vaut-tec logo on the megaton bomb, Mr House overprotecting vegas... Everything's connected

Something I just noticed in this scene. Everyone is giddy as hell, talking about what they want to do with their Vaults after Coop's wife suggests those ones can be experiments. The camera keeps cutting back to Bud Askins. His face looks concerned and not as excited as he was at the start of the meeting. I don't think he was totally in on the experiments idea.

Buds horrified expression hearing what their doing sells this so much more

Don’t know what people were talking about, I thought the show ruled. I watched it all in one go, I had to finish it - I’ll probably watch it again!

It's so richly ironic to me that this very show was produced by one of the most cutthroat megacorps on our planet right now

Bro I literally almost flipped my couch over when his wife said “We drop the bombs ourselves”

What does make sense in this is Mr House who is like "How the FUCK will this whole idea even work? Destroyed world without anything left?" That is why he made sure to actually save at least Mojave desert with Las Vegas, which was genius in the long run

wasn't this the plot planned long ago for the canceled fallout movie back in 98 by the original fallout creators themselves?

I cannot be the only nerd looking at de-aged Kyle McLachlan with a sudden nostalgic hankering for Twin Peaks and the old Dune...

Remember the script for the Fallout film that never got made way back in the early 2000s? In that script, it was said that Vault Tec started the Great War. So this wasn’t something made up on the fly, Vault Tec were ALWAYS the ultimate villain.

so the theories are confirmed that vault tec started the great war

Most important lore in fallout history 🧐

I like Bud's expression at 0:44 he doesn't entirely like it but he's a company man

I was so shocked when I heard that vault tec was behind all this

Walton Goggins is such a good actor and it pains me that it took this long to realize The absolute and utter shock on his face when he learns the truth is immaculate

I can't believe Agent Cooper did this.

This part had me shook so straight up evil, I wouldn't be surprised if stuff like this really happens in the real world...who am i kidding ik it does. Those people at the table may have thought they're In control, but little do they know there is always a higher up who are actually in control , and they are just pieces on the chess board

We always knew vault tec did it we just never had established proof

still cant understand why they did it, for money? money for what? to live in a wasteland? doesnt make sense

If Amazon and MGM play their cards right there is enough material here to have Fallout not only be an ongoing series but have the potential for multiple spin offs, movies, animated series, and more.

The House Always Wins

I was watching this on TikTok thinking it really was just a normal vid until bro’s wife said “ we’ll drop them ourselves “. I love fallout and have always thought vault Tec was already shady as hell but this made them THE most evil faction in all of fallout. People, for years, were asking who was the first to drop the bombs and many blamed china but now knowing vault tec dropped the bombs first, creating the vaults for their heinous experiments, and basically ended the world for control, power and curiosity. This reveal is absolutely mind boggling.

Jesus, I only finshed the show last night, the moment Cooper's wife said "we drop the bomb ourselves" had me in as much shock as Cooper, from that moment on the meeting had my full attention and as a die hard fallout fan, I thought the show was abousltey fantastic. We all knew Vault-Tec was bad we just didn't know they were evil.

SHE SAID THE LINE!!!

Best scene in the show hands down, Walton Goggins kills it (they really didnt have to cg hank's young face like that tho)

She is COLD! She even hit the tagline!

This scene was utterly incredible

This doesnt outright confirm that they did drop the bombs, only that they were willing to do it and I feel this is the way the series will take this, introduce more players in the game all of whom considered dropping the bombs but we will get told who actually did it

young hank maclean looks like he is ai created

I like how the room has ashtrays and Mr. House is smoking. It's a small thing, but how Fallout's retro world has cigars and ashtrays everywhere and people smoke without minding second-hand smoke is just perfect

Fallout 3 already gave us an idea of who really dropped the bombs. Amazon's Fallout confirmed this.

SHE SAID THE THING!!! 😁

The de-aging is pretty rough but it doesnt stop how awesome this scene is. Love how everything came together

For anyone who who was wondering why there are also valets in Canada, it's because at this point in in the Fallout universe the United States had annexed Canada making it part of the United States.

I think vault tec wanted to drop the bomb but China beat them to it because they were scared of losing the war as Beijing was a front line city i believe near the end. Vault Tec was still building Vaults like 114 in Boston when the bombs dropped I think they would've wanted to finish them before they dropped the bomb.

I mean for those true fallout fans we kinda knew vault tek did it, just look at the nukes markings that landed in megaton

Pretty glad we got three separate stories in the main cast cause we were taken more into the “FALLOUT” world instead of just focusing on one point of view. This here is an example we wouldn’t have gotten with Lucy or Max and I think the show did awesome in taking us into this world

the guy playing the West Tek rep is sooooo good holy shit. most of the acting in this show was incredible but this dude clearly read the assignment!!! his super exaggerated mannerisms and comical levels of evil give off fallout 1 mob boss talking head vibes

That acting was so great. There's that flatline-like sound too. Was a great finale. I want more 😩

This.. blew my mind. This is how you do it. One of the best oh shot moments of my liiife

Vault-Tec starting the Great War really does make a ton of sense and has been hinted at for a while. Also explains why the first explosion in the first episode appeared to be coming from below the surface rather than on the surface.

That explains why in fallout 3 theres a nuke with a vault tec symbol on it.

Barb looks and sounds really pained giving her speech. She seems like a "family above everyone else" kind of villain.

“My pip-boy keeps trying to transmit to somewhere, i cant fix it…oh well time for our evil business meeting”

Oh, how much I loved this scene.

Peace talks were coming between the two sides as you can hear in the first episode. But regardless, Vault-Tec hedged its bets against humanity, taking away any chance that maybe mans ability to seek peace might've won over. What they ultimately did was push the war off the edge of the point of no return for profit and power, which is probably the most evil things done in all of Fallout.

There’s not many people realize that aside from Hank, Betty (New overseer for Vault 33) is also present, because the Bomb dropped too hard and people are in shocked for sure 😂

My sympathy for The Ghoul just skyrocketed

I remember a time when Fallout 4 was just released, I read a discussion in Reddit or Quora (?) about who started the Great War/dropped the nukes. Speculations were US, China, Vault-tec, Mr. House, or even the Zetans. It is amazing to have evidence and confirmation that Vault-tec was somehow capitalizing the bad conditions of the world. Further, I am amazed to know that the different types of experiment on the vaults were not all came from Vault-tec, but with other major corporations

Sounds like it’d be a modern political/corporate meeting.

Good plan, reliable one too, like a Swiss watch: "Let's destroy the world we ruling at, wait till it rot. And then we gonna try to survive in new one, where all our power, money and influence, means nothing."

“By dropping the bomb ourselves.” Put me in shock just like it did Cooper.

The Repconn's vault idea might be vault 11 where a computer program was the overseer and the experiment was that each year people in the vault would have to sacrifice one person or else they would all die. And with this statement there were only 5 people left in the vault and they thought enough was enough and didnt sacrifice anyone. The plot twist was that that was what the program wanted all along. It congratulated them for not sacrificing one another and even opened the vault door for them to get in and out at will. Needless to say the remaining people didnt care about that and 4 of them decided to off themselves and only 1 of them survived in the whole vault.

god i look handsome

As an old school Fallout fan, it’s hilarious how they’re trying portray Vault-Tec as the prime conspirator, even though almost everyone else in the room is already one step ahead of them. For y’all new fans, here’s a rundown (POTENTIAL SPOILERS for season 2 and any games you haven’t played): Mr. House (0:12) had already calculated that nuclear war was inevitable 15 years before it happened. By this point in the timeline, he’s already fortifying Vegas with a defense grid, plus his own plan for human repopulation. He’s a major figure in the Mojave Wasteland even 200 years later. Big Mountain Research Facility (0:52) is already on the “unethical experimentation” train. In fact, the experiments conducted at Big MT (alt: Big Empty) make the Vault-Tec experiments look like a high school science class. Sinclair (a significant figure in one of the DLC’s) feigns interest, but doesn’t reveal Big MT is already doing much worse. Ironically, the Big MT experiments actually produced useful results. Even by Fallout standards, the technology at Big MT is decades more advanced than even Pre-War tech, including teleportation, hardlight holograms, and matter synthesizers. West-Tek (0:10) is the company that developed the Forced Evolution Virus (FEV), which causes horrific mutations. The idea was to create a new race of humans that could survive a nuclear apocalypse. Old fans remember FEV as being central to The Master’s plan. New fans may recognize it as the substance Vault 4 used in their experiments. Here, he suggests that particular experiment because West-Tek was already doing that. Also fun fact, the Brotherhood of Steel was originally formed by US Army soldiers under West-Tek who turned against the company when they found out about the FEV experiments. Repconn (0:15) is the odd one out. Unlike the others, they weren’t involved in any shady dealings and were purely concerned with space exploration. In fact, it’s especially odd that they’re here, since Mr. House should have already absorbed the company into RobCo by now.

Who is the lunatic that let Big MT have a seat on the table.

Imagine finding out your wife is a total psychopath, and has fooled you for your entire marriage. The loving, caring, woman you married was a character she was playing.

The Enclave runs this show... NOT the corporations