I always want to shout out the young actress who played Lizzie, Brighton Sharbino. She did a phenomenal job portraying a child with a behavioral health issue in a world turned upside down.

You missed it, but Lizzie was telling Carol that she was about to turn Judith into a walker next. Yikes 😳

I think Tyreese decided not to hurt Carol because he saw what taking another life did to her Carol is not heartless or emotionless Killing Lizzie was a tough decision to make and even tougher to execute Killing Karen and David was probably the same She didn’t make those decisions lightly and her actions (that had good intentions but still bad) weigh heavily on her and cause her so much anguish that she was prepared to die by Tyreese’s hand Tyreese saw that she is human and despite misguided actions has a good heart and a conscious.

Interesting Trivia: 1) Scenes in a particular TV episode are always filmed out of order, but since they were primarily in one location here, director Michael E. Satrazemis chose to shoot the scenes in the exact order they occurred in the episode, allowing the actors to basically "live" how it would have happened, slowly building up to those final gut-wrenching moments. 2) On the table in the house, they had a partially completed jigsaw puzzle as set dressing. When it came time for Carol to confess to Tyreese that she had killed Karen and David, the actors arrived on the set and found the jigsaw puzzle had been completed. It was a picture of Sophia in the rainbow t-shirt she was wearing when she got lost and then later walked out of the barn. That really helped set the emotional tone for that scene, especially for Melissa McBride. 3) I notice you watched the special extended version of the episode. It has several scenes that weren't originally there when it aired and/or the scenes were shorter in the TV broadcast version. A couple scenes added back in were Mika doing her Terminus robot thing and where she wanted to bury the walker and Carol wound up helping her. Plus, some others. You're right, this is one of the most messed-up episodes of the series. It's also one of the most outstanding. It generated a lot of media buzz and critical acclaim at the time, with many in the media calling for Emmy and Golden Globe nominations for acting (Melissa McBride, in particular), writing (showrunner Scott M. Gimple) and directing (Michael E. Satrazemis, his first time as director). Unfortunately, the closest it came to any mainstream award was a Critics' Choice Television Award nomination for Melissa McBride as Best Supporting Actress. She did win some other non-mainstream awards that year, but sadly (as best I can recall), I don't think any of the others got the recognition they deserved for this one. There was some ominous foreshadowing early on when Carol told Lizzie that Sophia didn't have a mean bone in her body, and Lizzie asked if that's why she wasn't here. The next day, when Carol is bandaging Tyreese's arm, she tells him she's worried about Mika because she doesn't have a mean bone in her body. Uh-oh. And, yes, that smoke was indeed coming from the house fire that Daryl and Beth set, as did those crispy walkers. Good catch! (A lot of people missed that at the time.) The scene that got me the most was where Carol was talking Lizzie down from the ledge, so to speak, telling her that Judith was too young to "change" because she couldn't even walk yet, then telling her to go inside with Tyreese and Judith for lunch while she stayed behind to tie up Mika so she wouldn't "wander off." The whole time, she's trying her best to act like nothing is wrong. Then, once they've left, her face crumples and she can't hold back the tears anymore as she pulls out her knife to keep Mika from turning. Just heartbreaking. All the performances in this episode were top notch. Which made it all the more impactful.

Always felt the reason bob was drinking the meds was because of his alcoholism

BIG reminder my guy! Starting season 5 there are post credit scenes that are very important!

this is still one of my fav episodes. i first watched when i was 12 and i still cry like a baby. lizzie was one of my favs and i always found really interesting how they explored how it is to have a mental illness during the apocalypse. it's just sad. (and i study psychology now, so for me, it's just sadder)

The most shocking episode of the show. Micah was the only person that really understood how messed up her sister was. No one else could see it until Lizzie killed Micah.

I watched TWD a million times but i can't remember ever seeing this Terminus-Robot-scene

Lizzie has an undiagnosed psychosis or maybe it’s diagnosed I don’t know but she needed professional help and probably needed to be on meds/or was on medication before the apocalypse Honestly her father should’ve told Carol what was actually wrong with Lizzie, Mika knows her sister is messed up but she probably doesn’t understand or know the extent of her medical issues just that Lizzie is different. It looks like it was a secret their parents kept from both of them. And her parents probably told Lizzie she was different or special hence why she’s always calling the walkers different and special

It’s heavy moments like this that makes this show so compelling I think this was the more humane resolution She could not be trusted around Judith or anyone after this It was either putting her down or abandoning her The latter would just have had her playing with walkers until she was inevitably painfully ripped apart Just like she was about to let that one she was playing with in the yard almost get her when Carol was running over She wouldn’t have made it on her own This was more painless resolution for her really Great episode.

When you said Lizzie has to learn the hard way... she can't. Even if she was bit, she would probably be happy about it. She definitely has something wrong with her.

I love how you mentioned “all the soft people seem to be dying” that’s so so true and such a big theme these next two seasons. You have to turn into a bit of a monster to survive in this world, but finding a balance where you’re just straight killing everyone and everything, in a world where it’s hard to trust strangers. Cause if you don’t you get yourself killed or others. It’s an ugly truth.

It felt so bad seeing how optimistic you were for Micah's future, knowing how the episode ends. We barely do enough for mental health in reality, who knows how bad things would get for some in a zombie apocalypse. Great reaction Wulf!

“This is a problem we need to fix,” Carol 🔫🤨 “I got this.”

This episode brought a whole new meaning to "look at the flowers".

One of the most disturbing but also best episode of TWD.

I would first like to say that anytime anyone says to look at the flowers or DOES look at flowers, I get flashbacks I swear. Amazing episode - heartbreaking, but amazing. Personally, I think that Lizzie might have been schizophrenic and that's why she thought the walkers were 'special' and seemed to think of them as people. Mika telling Lizzie to look at the flowers and count them and such is a coping skill taught in therapy, which likely means Lizzie was in therapy before the apocalypse. Sadly, we have no therapist with us here, so Carol made the right decision.

They got back just in time to save Judith. Lizzie says I was just about to referring to Judith and Carol says Judith can't even walk yet. Lizzie was off from the start. The apocalypse just pushed her over the edge as it does to so many.This is my fave episode. Melissa deserved an emmy .FYI I have seen this episode at least 20 times and had never seen the Mika robot thing . Apparently it is a deleted scene or on extended version. Kinda glad as it was pretty dumb. I guess they were trying to lighten a heavy episode.

One of those episodes that kinda sticks with you forever.

One of the best episodes. Just look at the flowers...

I wonder what form Lizzie's illness would have taken without an apocalypse. Torturing and killing animals is a huge red flag. It's possible she would have eventually been a danger to people with or without walkers around.

My sister actually got to meet Mika at a convention around the time this episode came out.

"This is the most terrible moment. This is the worst thing that has ever happened in this show so far." Me: "You'll never believe this. It gets worse in about 5 minutes"

Brighton Sharbino did a fantastic job as lizzie acting A+. It's a shame however how many death threats that she got for her character because people can't separate an actress from their character.

Tyrese is such a good fucking guy

One of the hardest episode of TWD

It was called The Grove because of the pecan grove at the little house TWD runs you through the ringer emotionally

It's totally right. You talked over the dialogue where Lizzie said Judith could turn too. NOBODY says shit like that about Judith and lives.

Right from the start of your reaction to this episode, I was like dude...you're in for a shocker! Lot more to come mate...this show is a gem!

"London Bridges" has a real dark story about the plague behind it. It's actually pretty twisted rhyme for kids to be singing about, but we all did.

One of the best episodes of the entire series

a hell of a sad episode. in the future there will be far greater atrocities, as you can imagine, but, so far, this was the worst moment since Sofia left the barn.

"A walker whisperer" lmfao

There comes the meme “look at the flowers”

Excellent Of Mice and Men reference! I thought the exact same thing.

When you were "stuck", I kept saying "Ctrl+Alt+Del".

This episode is one of my favorites 'cause it's just tragedy after tragedy. And it became a “joke” in the TWD fandom that Carol loses all her kids 😂😂 Since you already finished season 4, I recommend you to watch the Bad Lip Reading series of TWD. They are SUPER FUNNY and have one of my favorites songs ever, Carl Poppa! I recommend to you too the Honest Trailer about the series. It’s worth it!

The Blu Ray DVD version had an alternate angle of the Look at the Flowers scene from Tyreese’s POV from the window so we actually see Carol shoot her and see her body fall and react It’s a much more jarring scene IMO makes it seem more impactful but Carol’s face does say SO much when it cuts to her afterwards.

The way this episode makes me sob a few years later

These final three episodes and the first episode of season 5 are probably my favorite in the series

And TWO "WTF did I just see?!" Episodes down.......countless to go. This show...........just........fuck I love it.

I was in tears till you said she might fuk around and kill Carol in her sleep.i burst out in laughter 😃 😀 😄 😁

Look at the flowers! Had that as a running gag anytime I thought a character was dying on TWD.

Wulf It's so hard to believe that you have never heard about anything about TWD.... That's why I love to watch your reaction videos even though sometimes you talk through some excellent scenes, man!! Nevermind, what you say ; those very Pure and honest reactions are great!! You make the experience of watching show so fresh that it's like seeing it for the 1st time for me! This is my favorite episode of the show, Still is;hands down. Even though, I've seen this at least 10 -15 times. It makes you feel and think.

Rip Lizzie and Mika

Great reaction, very sad and dark episode, great acting from all the actors. An amazing yet depressing turning point in the show.

This and the pilot will always be the best episode of the entire series.

One of my favorite KZfaq channels man

10:24 I never caught that!! Good observation!

one of my fav episodes of all time

this episode I had the hardest time with... i think it broke me when i saw micah laying there behind lizzie dead and then had to shoot lizzie after that too. like ik lizzie is a kid I just dont know what else to do without killing her. so it felt like killing her was the best option but idk if i could if i was in carol's shoes

You should see Ty in Criminal Minds, he's fucking terrifying

Where are you watching this on? Because I’ve watched this show maybe 10 times and I don’t remember that robot scene at all

The Walking Dead Season 4 : Episode 14 - The Grove March 16, 2014

I think you missed it but the first time carol tells Lizzie for them to take Judith and go inside. She says she was just about to do the same to Judith. Her plan was to kill Judith too but they interrupted her. Then carol tried to reason by saying Judith can’t even walk yet. And that’s when Lizzie agreed to just go inside. It’s absolute sick the fact that the only reason Lizzie didn’t kill Judith was bc she wouldn’t be able to walk around and play makes me sick to my stomach.

Amazing reactions to this episode Wulf :) R.I.P Lizzie and Mika Carol did what she had to do Lizzie couldn’t be trusted and was almost about to kill Judith too so she had to go Poor Carol having to do that though you can tell she loved both Lizzie and Mika and was heartbroken about the whole situation she is such a strong woman I’m glad Tyreese didn’t kill Carol and forgave her shows how much of a good person he really is The acting in this episode is phenomenal it’s always fantastic but all the actors especially Melissa McBride killed it Anyways can’t wait for more reactions :)

Time to look at some flowers..

It sucks, Lizzie is messed up. If their world hadn’t fallen apart. She might have received the help she needed and lived a relatively normal life. But this world just exacerbate everyone’s worst qualities. Carol is right, she could not be around other people. She was too dangerous.

That robot part was not in the original airing which makes sense since those girls would have likely been to young to know about robots before the zombie outbreak happened

This episode is in my top ten of the show..so excited to see your reaction!

Great reaction. THIS SHOW MAKES YOU THINK.

Not that it makes much of any difference but I don’t think Ty simply forgave Carol. The way he worded it made it seem like “I forgive, but you’re gunna carry that weight” idk maybe I’m reading too much into it.

I live for his intro………

One of my favorite episodes. 💐

yep, Of Mice & Men

So excited for S5 reaction!

"Fuck 'The Grove'" will always be my reaction to these reactions. And I skip it if I find myself binging on The Walking Dead again.

Liz is crazy

This episode is still like😱, to me.

A super huge moment in the series, unfortunately not one that sticks with me for some reason, but Carol is changed forever

Wulf your hair is fine, get some rogaine and stop wearing the hats. Take it from a guy that lost it at 23. You have tons of time bro.

Why does Carol keep losing people?!

Hello 👋 Another awesome video, 👍👍 This show definitely has a way of reaching right into your chest and rip that heart out on all levels, 😏 So a friendly reminder especially now that she is gone, Mika’s name is pronounced Meekah not Mike-ah, 😁😂😁 You are the only reactor that I have seen thus far that caught the Beth and Daryl fire being what was causing all the smoke, 👏👍😀 They are all so close at one point and it is such a bummer that they still have not met up, 😏 Lizzy tells Tyrese and Carol she was just about to turn Judith and Carol says ‘she can’t even walk yet’ and Lizzy say ‘yeah your right’, 😶 So sad that Carol had to be the one to put her down, but she was right, Lizzy could not be around anyone without putting them in danger and Carol would not have been able to sleep since she would have to constantly watch her, 😏 Have a safe and wonderful, 👋🙂👋

Till this day i still do believe this is one of the most fucked up episodes of the show. If not THE most fucked up

this video does not match the episode on netflix i have watched this since i was 8 so i know almost every line and the part 11:27 to 12:35 is different so idk if i am tripping or what cuz that's a whole different script and everything if anyone sees this and cares let me know if i'm right or not.

Top 10 episode of the show for sure, but so hard to watch, every time

Is there gonna be a new vid today?

Huh uh huh (hyperventilating)😬

If this is considered a spoiler, feel free to delete this comment. 👍 . . . Lizzy reminds me of Alpha/Beta in a child’s body. Obsessed with walkers.

no vid today?

Nothing wrong with your hairline

Great acting and directing all around, but I just can't watch this episode anymore.

Dude it’s meca not mica . Meee -cuh . Get it right . You never listen to what characters names are in the show 😂