AJ has a point, but only one.... it IS important to teach all kids how to survive in this world but you have to teach them MORE than that as well. Carl was taught to survive but he was taught how to be a human as well. Because of Carol's loss of Sophia she is loosing part of her humanity in place of surviving. This is what Rick seen in her and why he kicked her out. Carol was teaching this kids how to kill and survive but not the other things that makes them a well rounded person who is more than just a killer. Nothing Carol taught Lizzy made her into what she was though, she was crazy before the world fell, this was discussed some when their father died.

"I didn't mean to shoot her in the head" - Lizzie doesn't mind killing people because she thinks they keep living. Only felt remorse when she destroys the brain.

the point of lizzie's character is to show how kids with natural sever mental issues would handle the trauma of this world. lizzie is obviously what people call a "sociopath" so inside her head her morals have been screwed and she might have some form of shizophrenia as she said she could "hear them"

This is one of the most powerful episodes in the entire series. It generated a lot of Emmy buzz in the media at the time, especially for Melissa McBride (Carol). Most of the media considered her a frontrunner for an Emmy nomination that year. Unfortunately, the Emmys continued their long tradition of ignoring the fantastic actors on TWD. But she was nominated for a Critics Choice Television Award and she won the Saturn Award. Lizzie was suffering from mental illness even before the ZA. There were hints given in earlier episodes that she'd been undergoing therapy/treatment before the world ended. Tragically, that was no longer an option in the ZA world, so there was no way to help her. Tyreese is a good man, but I'm not sure he would have forgiven Carol if she had confessed before they lost the girls. Because he took part in making the decision to kill Lizzie, he was able to understand what she did with Karen and David in a way he wouldn't have understood before this. He told her he knows she feels it and that it will always be with her. He knows that because now Lizzie's death will always be with him, and it's something that he'll always feel.

''Just look at the flowers'' was one of the most powerful scenes in the entire series for me, the acting is perfect, you feel Carol's emotions for doing that to a child, especially she who has already lost 2 children, having to kill a third one herself... Carol is definitely one of the strongest characters in the series

You don't have sessions with a child psychologist while you're running for your life. Lizzie learned that "look at the flowers ... count 1 - 2 - 3" stuff prior to the apocalypse. She had been under psychiatric care as a very young child.

😂😂😂 my man said, I’m not for anything but an eye for an eye lol😂 had me rolling 10:30

I think Tyreese decided not to hurt Carol because he saw what taking another life did to her Carol is not heartless or emotionless Killing Lizzie was a tough decision to make and even tougher to execute Killing Karen and David was probably the same She didn’t make those decisions lightly and her actions (that had good intentions but still bad) weigh heavily on her and cause her so much anguish that she was prepared to die by Tyreese’s hand Tyreese saw that she is human and despite misguided actions has a good heart and a conscious.

4 episodes in one week?! Please continue to drop more

You guy’s crack me up whenever you argue 😂

When this episode came out this is all people were talking about for days It was so shocking.

This episode was crazy… Lizzie’s actress did good 👍. 9:47 one of the biggest omg moment in the show

It’s heavy moments like this that makes this show so compelling I think this was the more humane resolution She could not be trusted around Judith or anyone after this It was either putting her down or abandoning her The latter would just have had her playing with Walkers until she was inevitably painfully ripped apart Just like she was about to let that one she was playing with in the yard almost get her when Carol was running over She wouldn’t have made it on her own This was more painless resolution for her really Great episode.

So this is easily known as probably the darkest episode in the whole show, it sticks with carol all the way to the end and shows you how messed up Lizzie really is

The Blu Ray DVD version had an alternate angle of the Look at the Flowers scene from Tyreese’s POV from the window so we actually see Carol shoot her and see her body fall and react It’s a much more jarring scene IMO makes it seem more impactful but Carol’s face does say SO much when it cuts to her afterwards.

Great reaction! You all having heated discussions is the best thing.

I love when y’all drop back to back like this 🗣️LETSSSS GOOOOOO ‼️🙌🏾

Tbf to AJ. Carol is definitely colder and more hardened, than the rest of the group 👀 I mean it’s ironic but how many people in our group could’ve killed a kid, even if the kid was “messed up”. Thus, the point AJ makes about balance is fair but I suppose we’re at a point where Carols lack of “balance” may come in handy….

An interesting tidbit...the jigsaw puzzle pieces that were spread out on the table throughout most of the episode had a hidden purpose. It stayed there as a prop all through filming until it was time to shoot the scene where Carol confessed to Tyreese. Just before the scene, the director showed them a picture of what the puzzle would look like assembled. It was a picture of Carol's late daughter Sophia in the rainbow t-shirt she was wearing when she went missing. Needless to say, that helped make the scene even more emotional for the actors.

This episode is CRAAAAZY, I was waiting for y’all to get here, it only gets more wild from here tho

A.J. you have some insight but you fly over the coco nest. Above the clouds. Hovering around. Just land and be calm and watch then blurt out. Lol

Love that you guys are enjoying season 4! The awesome thing is the best seasons are yet to come in my opinion! 😁

y’all are in for a treat as it only gets more wild 😭 miss this time of the show

Wooooooow bro. I forgot all about the "just look at the flowers" memes. Bro, i remembered when you guys hated on carol, and i commented that carol is the best character in the show right next to carl. Now im glad that you guys can see why.

Random Easter egg I remember from this episode: the puzzle on the table when Tyreese and Carol have the talk was a picture of Sophia❤️

Prophets analogy "it's like they released solo albums" regarding these smaller group episodes allowing the actors opportunity to shine individually and really show how great of actors/actresses they are is SPOT ON! Love it!!

Good editing guys, a lot of small channels or even big ones like RT TV has like problems with audio and other things, so it's nice to see that you don't have these problems

It's always funny to see you guys argue over situations in the show. That shows that you all have different opinions and interpret the show differently. And I think that's amazing, to be able to talk and debate over a show means that it's a fantastic series. I cannot wait to see future reactions from you guys!

Melissa McBride/Carol won an award for this episode (Saturn Award I think it was) and she deserved it Chad L Coleman/Tyreese was also fabulous I have tears in my eyes now just watching it again It was a very Of Mice And Men tribute in a way I do think that Lizzie might’ve possibly had some kind of schizophrenia (Mental Illness) and with no treatment no medicine no counselling Carol did the only thing that could be done And Yes Carol did feel she didn’t deserve to live and when Tyreese forgave her it was a beautiful scene Your guys reactions were spot on As for Carol she carries it all with her till this day.

I always enjoy the fall of the prison because I love watching these dynamics between certain characters.

Tyrese is like Mika ( meek and mild), Carol is like Lizzy ( fighting demons on the inside)

One of the best episodes in the show! Sidenote:- Scarface needs to start sitting in the middle 😂

Amazing reactions to this episode AJ Prophet And Gori :) R.I.P Lizzie and Mika Carol did what she had to do Lizzie couldn’t be trusted and was almost about to kill Judith too so she had to go Poor Carol having to do that though you can tell she loved both Lizzie and Mika and was heartbroken about the whole situation she is such a strong woman I’m glad Tyreese didn’t kill Carol and forgave her shows how much of a good person he really is The acting in this episode is phenomenal it’s always fantastic but all the actors especially Melissa McBride killed it Anyways can’t wait for more reactions :)

13:00 agreed you two are just arguing rather than listening, if you just let him speak he would have said and specified what he meant, he was talking about the prison and what carol did, he was saying that he should be putting two and two together by now about how carol killed them before trying to stop the sickness

Lizzy was schizophrenic. That’s why she can hear the walkers talk

You guys have to give each other room to change your mind on things. Especially when watching The Walking Dead because we all go back and forth on what we believe because this show tests our morals. Also just because you love a character doesn't mean they're immune from criticism. Trust me even I who is the leader of the Rick fan club critize him for things he did in the second half of season 5. Carol is not immune because killing Carl and David was wild.

Your reactions to this series are GOATed, it made me go back and finish from where left off a few years ago and I'm very glad to say I went back and finished TWD. (I watched every single week for 9 years and stopped watching half way through season 9)

Treating us with another episode! ❤ This was a tough episode! 😢

Woooo yea baby thats what I've been waiting for woo

This is just the beginning of Carols story......

so good when these lads get heated so funny to watch. Another top tier reaction roll on ep 15 !!!!!

How did Carol and him miss a whole axx zombie in the small house lol

Ain't no way I come back to 2 new episode! Yes guys!

I love season 4. Your reactions have been fantastic. 💕💕💕👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Yes another one I’m loving these reactions

If someone ever says look at the flowers just run for the hills. Great reaction guys ready for more

Season 5 imo one of my favourite seasons

Seasons 4 - 6 is peak TWD mark my words.

Season 4 and 5 of Walking Dead are the absolute best. And this episode is up there is one of the scariest of all time.

One of the most iconic episodes in TWD

Back to back TWD I love to see that ❤

Tyrese forgave Carol because she had to put down Lizzie. When she admitted she killed them he understood that it wasn’t malicious and she was trying to do what she thought was right. Putting down Lizzie was a decision they made together.

AJ - Ty needs to put two and two together to know carlo killed david and karen than he gets yelled at the guy in the middle just wanted to fight for no reason

You guys were looking for logic in Lizzie's beliefs where none existed. She was a girl with severe mental illness which meant she didn't experience reality as it exists. So for us, who experience actual reality, her beliefs don't make sense because they're based on a "reality" we can't experience.

More curious enough, Tyrese was much more important in the comics, he was Rick's right hand, more like the Shane of the comics, the real Shane in the comics didn't live long enough to be that important

That’s the episode that made me love Caroll. She seems heartless for what she did to Karen and the response she gave to Rick but - she is the most sensitive of them all. She just learned how to care about her group/family first not to loose anybody else like she lost Sofia.

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So AJ doesn't want to teach any kids how to use weapons because of a possible 1% chance of them being psychos? You need to teach them to be animals and then teach them to control it

I can confirm that next season is wild !!! 😊

Hello 👋 Another awesome video, 👍👍 The smoke and burnt Walkers were from Daryl and Beth’s fire, they were not to far behind them, my take on it is, Carol and Ty took a right at the tracks and found ‘The Grove’ as Daryl and Beth got to the tracks, unfortunately they decided to go straight across the tracks instead of turning, 👍😀 This was a hard one to watch, poor Mika, RIP Mika (wonderfully played by Kyla Kennedy) and also (not sure she will rip😂) Lizzie (wonderfully played by Brighton Sharbino), 😪 Sad that Carol had to be the one to deal with Lizzy, but between the two, even though it nearly destroyed her, she is the stronger one emotionally, I think it would have destroyed Ty, but seeing how hard it was for her to make the choice she did, made it easier for Ty to forgive her about Karen, 🙂 Pine sap is considered a wonder sap, and can be used as a self-aid to treat wounds, stop bleeding and treat rashes. Have a safe and wonderful rest of your week, 👋😀👋

Season 5 and 6 get crazy

Prophet, I amas.

Carol was doing the rite thing! Tyrese and Judith were saved by her teachings. She didn't murder the girl, Lizzy would have gone on killing. Lizzy is a psychopath! Carol just doesn't want anyone else to die, so she kills to protect others. Carol/Melissa's acting is superb! In this world it's kill or be killed. Dude don't hate on Carol cuz she has a giant fan base u dont wanna make mad lol. You wanna get subscribers. Your faces were amazing, all ur mouths hanging open. Keep going guys, the best is yet to come

Lizzy was just psychotic, probably had developed mad schizophrenia. It's possible she was a psychologically troubled child even before the apocalypse already and her mental health just went down hill even more after the apocalypse with dead people walking around. Under normal circumstances, in a normal world this would've been treatable by medication and therapy but in this world there is just no way. AJ was right in terms of Carol not noticing things about Lizzy and her odd behaviour, she should've seen the signs earlier, Carol even said it herself but it is so easy to miss when there's so much other shit going on around you and when your first priority literally just is survival so I don't really think anyone can be blamed for what's happened. When Carol confessed to Tyreese in the end after she just killed Lizzy, she was ready to die. Only reason she told him was because she was counting on him killing her. Very poweful scene and episode in general, easily one of my top favorites from the whole show. And in terms of the whole show in my opinion TWD just hols a certain consistent high quality level overall through all 11 seasons which is remarkable for a show that's been running that long. A lot of people might disagree, especially those who watched the show live weekly over years but especially when you're able to binge watch as many episodes as you want, which definitely benefits some arcs that you can now watch in one sitting which otherwise would've taken you roughly 4 weeks, the story definitely always stays intriguing. I'd genuinly say that overall the Walking Dead doesn't have one bad season because every season has at least a handful of episodes that are just fuckin insane and storylines that are wild with an always changing dynamic and vibe in a sense.

lizzie views walkers as a different type of living thing, she believes not only that when ppl turn they’re still alive but that it’s actually a better state of living than as a human, it’s why she feels remorse for shooting somebody in the head, she doesn’t kill just to do it, she does thinking they will still live on just as walkers, but yes she’s mentally ill and sadly it’s just something that wouldn’t have been able to work out in this type of world anymore so carol did do the right thing at the end

Bro AJ tried saying something then they completely misunderstood and shit on him 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Messed up episode but the girl deserved it she was on something

Lizzie was fucked in the head. Like mental illness. Not gonna diagnose her with anything specific cause I'm not an expert but she definitely wasn't gonna be able to function in a world like that. She had no problem killing people because she believed they came back as living. I have no doubt she would one day decide to try and kill the entire group in their sleep, to "show" them. Hell, she probably would have started trying to get revenge for all the walkers they killed. Also, a little detail that is mostly unimportant until this episode. While their dad is dying, he tells Mika to take care of Lizzie instead of the other way around. So Lizzie has most likely been this way well before the outbreak, and their father knew she was unlikely to function in a world like that. She was likely seeing someone regularly and was probably on meds too. There would be no way to healthily maintain her mental state while she's not on meds, while surviving in such a fucked up world, where one bad day could ruin any progress she's made towards functioning even somewhat normally.

Also Aj was not backtracking, all he was saying is that Tyreese should put two and two together about Carol being the killer of Karen & David. He wasn’t talking about Lizzie, or Carol killing Lizzie, or Tyreese & Carol noticing she was a psychopath. It seems to me that he will state his opinion and you guys take it YOUR way and run with it, then when he tries explaining the way HE meant it, he gets genuinely confused because you two gaslight HIM. It’s not really my business but y’all were fishing for an argument. Yes, in the first two seasons Aj had a tendency to get mad when people disagreed but he hasn’t been doing that lately. You two have, though. On top of not allowing him to explain. This is what I meant by an earlier comment. This show will mess with your perception of logic and emotion, muddy the waters. But you can’t just pick fights with Aj because you’re emotionally distressed by the episode and you thought he said something you disagree with. I wouldn’t usually say anything because like I said it’s not my business, but the things being said were straight up rude. I’m coming from a place of love, not criticism! I love your reactions! I just don’t appreciate seeing anyone being treated the way you guys treat him lately. Arguments are easily avoidable if everyone was patient and willing to just keep their emotions in check 😞🫶🏻 Much love to you all!! Can’t wait for the next one!!!

your friend was actualy right and your all on him. the script writing is showing carol in the same scenerios shes been in and this time tyrese witnessed it hence why the next scene IS HER LEGIT ADMITTING IT. him just saying i hope tyrese recognises what happened before is telling to what lines the show is trying to draw. yall are way too hard on him especially cuz he just said i hope he recognised. as for the shane comparison obv that was wrong but u guys was way too hard on him

She has mental issues it’s not that hard to understand if you think back to all her scenes throughout season 4. They have to get her to look at the flowers to calm her down, she sees walkers as still being human, she has even killed animals for no good reason. These are all signs that Lizzie clearly has anxiety attacks and probably something along the lines of schizophrenia. Having a zombie apocalypse happen when you already find it difficult to understand the world has obviously cause her mental health to deteriorate even more. With each tragedy her mind is just drifting further away from reality with really no one besides her younger sister understanding and trying to keep it all in check💯

FUCK Lizzie!... Bruh Mika was taken way to early. The most adorable character that would have a great character arc.

Just 2 more episodes and it starts

if you think season 4 is the best season, wait till season 5 . y’all are gonna love that shit

I think the man in middle is very sensitive,it ok we should hear everyone opinion ,you dont have to shut the man with white shirt everytime

Lizzie had a mental illness before the outbreak. She couldn’t be helped. Also, I don’t believe Carol would have killed Otis in that instance . She would’ve made sure they both made it out alive if so. Can’t wait for the next 2 episodes 😅

Lizzie was mentally ill, in the normal world she would have meds but there is no one to help her in this world

6:20 Mental ilnesses dont stop existing in a zombie apocalypse guys.. This child could've had schizophrenia or other mental ilnesses. Not that hard to understand the delusions

Season 4 goated season

Lizzie has lost her damned mind because of losing her parents and seeing so much death and violence. Mica is sweet and not prone to violence but understands when necessary. Poor baby had her sister take her out and Judith was next. One of the best episodes.

Ditch that guy in the middle and you've got a great reaction channel

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You guys should stay calm while discussing this show and respect each other's opinion whether it makes sense or not. And not get mad because you disagree. Don't lose your friendship over a TV SHOW. Just my two cents.

15 and 16 today???🙏🏻

Love love love this episode. It's filled with what IFS and sadness. Hated Lizzie from the beginning it's her fault 💯 % the disease came to the prison. She was a serial killer nut job in the making. Mika was a beautiful soul who was murdered. I love Carol .. have always loved Carol she is my top 3 of TWD characters. Love ❤️ THE Walking d e ad but their can only be one GAME OF THRONES. ❤❤ Dialogue scenery and humour.

SPOILERS for Season 9 and beyond. Seriously. Don't read this you guys. 4:42 Yoooo aint no way Prophet actually predicted the future. We all know Alpha is basically Lizzie as an adult. Its like they're the same person.

I amas and profit

I dont think lizzie's character is supposed to mean anything or havee a special meanining.

Some child characters are some of the reasons why I dislike some tv shows or movies. Like sorry we live in a world that is not the same as before. If you cant change or adapt you aint gonna live long sorry, its how life is when its the zombie Apocalypse and things have gone to sheit. Im sorry, but in a real scenario and such if it wouldve costed any one elses life, I wouldve put Lizzie out of her misery. Shes a psycho.

Been super impressed with some of the lines Aj has been dropping. “Yeah, teaching them to kill Walkers, not people” made me smile. He gets it. And yes Carol is poisoning these children. It’s sad.

Nah, AJ is right. Teaching kids how to survive is one thing but the way Carol went about it sneakily contributed to this happening. You must be extra careful when teaching kids because they can quickly become child soldiers. I get that Carol is still dealing with the death of her child but she's projecting all her fears onto these children. Also, the way she speaks to them is reckless. Telling children, "You must kill humans or you will die" is too much. It makes sense to fully developed brains because we can pick and choose when it's necessary but children can't figure that out and will do it unprovoked. It's all about giving them the tools to survive and then morally teaching them right from wrong. Rick teaching Carl is a good example of that. When Carl killed that boy who was turning his gun over, Rick took Carl's gun away for a while because he needed that. It taught him right from wrong. I will always stand by my thought process that it was wrong to train these kids without speaking to their parents first. Her not speaking to Lizzie's father beforehand was a mistake because he knew her mental state. Lizzie is mentally ill and Carol unknowingly unlocked her thirst to kill. She killed Tara's girlfriend and killed Mika, and this was her second attempt at killing Judith.

AJ is my top Nomad. Put some respect man. I just love it when he says some odd bs that i also agree on, and then it gets paid off episodes later, and everyone else has to take the L . I just fucking love it, its the best thing in youtube.

Hi guy's. Can A.J. just shut up sometimes ? Lol Dang he just like to hear himself be wrong. A.j. I bet you can't just watch quietly for two episodes. Try it. Let profit and middle man reactions with commentary solo. Give your brain a little insightful rest. Lol

I think you are very sexist friend. In the face of similar acts, if Shane does it, he is your idol and if Carol does it because she is a woman, you judge her and reproach her. If Shane would do what Carol did, you would say that it is fine.. Absolute sexism

Please stop with the Game of Thrones comparisons. Just stick to what you know, which at the moment is (through season 4 of) The Walking Dead.