have you done a 4080 laptop vs 3080 laptop gpu yet ?

@@daniels5607 No, I probably won't do any 3070 or 3080 laptop comparisons as I consider them to be 2 generations old, the ones I have are paired with 11th gen CPUs and even harder to fairly compare.

@@JarrodsTech Ah well I can understand just makes it bit more of pain due to me owning a 3080 laptop but i still feel that next gen may be a better upgrade hopeing for lower costs and i feel i will double my prfomance. THank you for the video you where a massive help when choseing my laptop.

thanks. 4090 name = an extra $600 on the price tag. What a scam NV

​@@JarrodsTech Please compare scar 16 4080 with scar 18 4090 thanks.

Jarrod to the rescue without biting into the marketing material, and actually testing similar GPUs, regardless of what they want to tell us with the naming. Same goes for 4070 vs 3060!

@@AlexandreG Yes, he threads the line very well. I was a bit worried in his initial 40 series coverage for calling the 4090 laptops just that and not mentioning the die difference but I had faith in his integrity to bring it up at some point

@HanmaHeiro I also left a comment on that video about that because I know he reads many comments, he probably did not see it, but still came through for us, as expected from Jarrod

Benchmarks online suggest desktop 4070ti is 10% faster, but I hope Jarrod tests this in real life performance and gaming fps+

Its a 3090 desktop basically

Completely agree. I'd love to know which desktop GPU the laptop 4090 most closely matches, it'd make conversations with my desktop-owning friends much easier!

​@asd it depends. I've seen it faster on 1080p but perform on par and even slightly eek out the 4070ti on 1440p and 4k. Im assuming that's because the 4090m has 4gb more of vram. I think of the 4090m as a 16gb 4070ti

@@ericryang1757 more like 3090 ti

Exactly Nvidia rulezzzz AMD is a suxxx. Yuckkkk AMD

Wait.. do you know last year 3060 desktop slightly similiar with 3060 laptop.

@@earthsekarang8159 yeah , 🌚

@@earthsekarang8159 Except with half the vram, probably because the 3060 laptop was a cut down 3060 ti instead of a cut down 3060

​​​​@@earthsekarang8159 so are the others from the 30 series. Last year was not the problem, guy is being ironic about this year. Because this kind of marketing bamboozling isn't any less sketchy just because they have been describing GPUs properly in previous years, that should be the norm, not something to praise NVIDIA about

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People fall for the naming scheme, that is why they do it.

Yeah it's faster

@@-opus yeah I know. As sad as that is. I wish they weren't aloud to do that.

does it really make a difference? The price would be the same.

No no no, let this guy cook

yep atleast whit 12-8 e cores disabled 4 cores for background will be enough

Id say its between 4070Ti and 4080.

Not worth it, just search 4070Ti vs 4080 and compare

kinda curious about this as well. according to userbenchmark, the desktop 4070 ti is 10% faster

​@@aoimichirukun but then I'd have to keep switching tabs to compare, and the games tested won't necessarily be the same. Jarrod has already done half the work, he'd just have to test the 4070 Ti.

Userbenchmark is absolutely awful and biased beyond belief. Be very wary of anything that website says. Plenty of youtubers have discredited them

​@@I_Do_Poor_Ppl_Stuffwdym

Perhaps just get a egpu dock for desktop 4080 for your laptop at home

I think framework will use AMD GPUs, because Nvidia is not really open-source friendly and I highly doubt they would work with someone small like framework

​@@lamka02sk I mean I'm all for that

Honestly considering the 4090 at 80w still beats a 175w 3080 Ti, it could be interesting..

Oh, I didn’t realize the efficiency was that much better. I expected it to perform considerably better in terms of efficiency but hearing that. I can’t wait for the framework 16 to release, imagine making our own makeshift ASUS Duo 16.

Same here. Ryzen 5 3550H, 8GB RAM and the 1650 is definitely starting to show its age atleast in games. I'll hold off until the RDNA4 / RTX 50 series tho and hopefully by then miniLED or OLED and good battery life also trickles down in price

Check out the 2022 Asus ROG laptops Bestbuy is selling currently. Shockingly cheap for what you're getting. Last August I got the 2021 G15 with a 3070 and AMD 5900HS for under $1200(open box but like new). You can now pick up a 16" QHD 165hz laptop with a 3070ti and intel i9 12900k for under $1500. That's incredibly cheap for the performance, it'll be night and day compared to your current 1650 laptop lol

Save energy? I wonder if it does? Given battery losses. That could be a good idea for a video.

@@Showz333 I assume you're talking about the Legion 5 pro with the 6900HX + 3070 Ti. Yea that one of the Lenovo website is a pretty damn good deal, considering it has a good screen, 2TB of storage, and 32 gigs of DDR5 ram. I would pick that one up for $1750 if I needed a laptop currently.

2k? You mean 1440P.

Enough to rename this shit like a desktop.

@@innocentiuslacrim2290 4080M is the best case but Ngreedea will never do that.

blame AMD for releasing dogshit mobile GPUs (and desktop GPUs for that matter)

​@@bl4ckst0ne I can't tell if AMD mobile GPUs are dogs!t or not........... Because they are nowhere to be found 🤣🤣 .

​@@DragonOfTheMortalKombati found some....rx7600s only. The lowest end. It is decent to be honest, rivaling rtx 4060. The others i never saw any laptop with them.

You're right but except 4060 laptop , the difference between rtx 4060 laptop and desktop is 5 to 10 fps. and both have 8g vram( not like most other rtx4000 laptop that has lower vram) one of the biggest disappointment is 4070 laptop , it still have 8g vram and only gives 10 to 15 fps more than 4060 laptop

To be fair, a laptop comes with an entire functioning system out of the box. A desktop computer will cost more money with all of the parts together, if you're getting high end parts. The peripherals also don't come with it so that's an extra cost. With that in mind, laptops also need to be engineered to fit powerful hardware in a small, thin, portable form factor, and naturally that's going to cost more money. You also can't have anywhere near as much power flowing through a laptop cause it's too thin to keep cool. As far as laptops go, the 4090 mobile is a monster of a chip and its a technological marvel. Prices also vary hugely. You can find some 4090 laptops for just shy of 3 grand. If you're living in a car or driving a truck for a living, and a laptop is the only option you have, I'd say it's well worth the money. If you can get a desktop obviously go with that. But not all of us have that luxury

How did you get it for 2700? Even after coupon codes its about 3100 on lenovo us

It's in testing at the moment.

Okay I do AI work, and of course I game, and travel a lot, therefore need a powerful laptop wherever I go. With the exception of the AI work, in what universe is AMD not competitive in laptops especially when you consider the price? If I didn't have to do AI work, I would only look at AMD laptops, since they produce the same frame rate for less power at a cheaper price while still having the same quality system. Both the CPU and the GPU are less power hungry for the equivalent amount of work, with the exception of anything AI or tensor core based like for example DLSS. In fact I'm much prefer the one I got my girlfriend which is fully AMD based using a 6800 mobile GPU on last gen's CPUs... And that laptop has a better screen, better keyboard, with the exception of thunderbolt missing, better IO and I actually enjoy it better in games for example it never crashes on certain games because of too little video memory. And I paid less to buy it for my girlfriend than the one I have for myself. Which let's face it is a 3080 impersonating as a 3090.. in fact I love my 3070 Asus laptop, except for that 8 gigs of memory but it also can't do the work I need to do. AMD absolutely has competitive and better than, laptop GPUs, though I agree you have to wait a little longer because OEMs are taking their time bringing them out, they're trying to sell their overly expensive Nvidia based laptops. I actually regret getting that 3070 laptop not because it isn't a great laptop, but because the graphics card is already unable to do things that I want it to do never mind my work... For the same price I got the 6800 based laptop for my girlfriend with better overall specs. Just wait a month or two and that will be plenty of AMD base laptops in the same performance category, though you might not be able to get a good quality into CPU paired with the high end AMD GPU, and while I think AMD has done a fantastic job in power efficiency, for certain workloads the Intel CPU is still better, having said that for gaming; I don't think you'll see a difference between the high end of Intel or AMD, it will be the GPUs and the workload you need to put them through that will matter

@@marcm. You might want to check current gen laptop instead of talking about last gen stuff.

I used to test it a few years back, but it runs on pretty much anything so I stopped using it. I could consider it when I do a CPU comparison video.

@@JarrodsTech that's all I could ever ask, thank you !

It's practically the same chip (AD103) only at lower TDP and smaller cooling system. Laptop 4080 has AD104 chip from 4070Ti desktop.

not really when you pay nearly $4000 for something thats called a 4090 yet it performs sometimes under a 4070ti.

​@@gersongaete1574 precisely

That should be up next week

OC wouldn't be fair, i think it's better to compare them stock for the matter of this video

@@JacobSmith-rd8hl why, if the 4080 is running with 2.6 Ghz? Imo it would be fairer, just to see how the same die performs with the same speeds. And while OCing in my testing, the 4080 was only 15% ahead.

It seems we won't be getting any high end 7000 series GPUs from AMD this year. It's a shame since the 6800m was such a good mobile GPU

@@HanmaHeiro They still haven't formally announced desktop Navi 32 SKUs.

@@sonicboy678 Yes

it's faster than a 3090ti desktop. I own both a 4090 legion 7i and a 3090ti desktop and there's not one game in 4k where the laptop loses. I have a 200/400 overclock though

Get a laptop that is compatible with a water cooler. You'll be amazed!

I admit I do not know much about that, are there any standard benchmarks for it that you can point me to?

I'm sure he's prioritizing certain videos that he either believes will perform better or are more vital to put out first

I have that planned!

@@JarrodsTech Excellent! There's truly no one else like you on KZfaq! Thanks Jarrod!

Lol

THIS. completely agreed. 1000 and 2000 naming was the best.

also its not only about naming, the naming also dictates the pricing. This 4090M is getting sold at above 3080ti prices. It performs like a 4070ti or slightly less, yet it has the same pricepoint as a 4090 desktop which is like 50% faster.

@@gersongaete1574 it does have 1\3 more vRAM than a 4070 ti though, making it more future-proof.

I realized how sht desktops are after buying my first laptop. I'm not tied to one place anymore

The gap used to be much closer back around 2015 with the 10 series laptop GPUs. 1080m and such

4090m has the biggest gap to the exact desktop equivalent in the past 8 years, too much of a tgp difference

@@niebuhr6197 you literally cant make 4090 desktop power in laptop. Right now we dont have that insane tech

@@swapnilgohil7280 errr, I'm not talking about 4090 desktop...

@@Showz333 maybe I'm not in the scene so much but I don't remember that. And they'd be dumb to have ever said that Edit: said not say

Didn't bother testing, I guess it might be interesting "for science" but ultimately no one is running their desktop that way.

You have to look at it in terms of laptops being in their own category. Sure, there's not as fast as desktop equivalents, but you also can't stuff your desktop in your backpack and travel with it. It really comes down to whether portability is important to you and worth the price.