Toby: "You’re a woman with a lot of options. You’re acting like the world’s backing you into a corner." From The West Wing, Season 7, Episode 21, Institutional Memory
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@partyguy101ify4 жыл бұрын
"C.J., you fell into the pool there." Toby, 1998 Eight years later, and this happens.
@rgwak6 жыл бұрын
In most TV shows, the characters never change who they are as a person. But with CJ, you can see the struggle she goes through to come to grips with who she has become over the course of 8 years - really good at the hardest job in the world, sacrificing personal relationships, wondering if she missed out despite all the good that she has done for the world. That makes her one of the more intriguing characters on the show. And that's really saying something.
@Kerry0101 Жыл бұрын
This scene and the one after with Danny IS so epic. Toby speaks so softly so real so convincing in this scene those of us who watched this over and over countless times know the value of this scene..Without question one of my favorites.
@johncooper974627 күн бұрын
I so adore watching these 2 together;
@Bobainthome Жыл бұрын
I love how there was always a subtle humor in all conversations between Toby and C.J.
@shalini62383 жыл бұрын
i feel like cj and toby are soulmates. not necessarily as a couple, as colleagues, best friends, partners. they understand each other on a much deeper level than anyone else in the show does. they’ve confided in each other more and more over the years. they have a history. and they always seem to be there with each other at a life-altering moment.
@LuisMartinez-rw2lj3 жыл бұрын
I always saw CJ and Toby as work siblings
@DennisMoore6642 жыл бұрын
@@LuisMartinez-rw2lj That was one of the things about this show - they were all very much a family. One of the great choices that was made was to not have the characters getting romantically entangled with one another except for - well, I won't spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen the series yet.
@stephencronin10802 жыл бұрын
They're part of each other's karass
@BigTulsa Жыл бұрын
Obviously they knew each other before the Barlet presidency as they depicted in some of the flashback sequences in Season 2. The one where she fell in the pool at her apartment complex in California kind of showed they were friends well before the worked in the West Wing.
@nibrasge63757 ай бұрын
Interchangeable Hero and Sidekick story!
@kazimierzgarshin39245 жыл бұрын
I like Tobys "Wow, that might be the smartest thing." He sees he has been wrong about Santos.
@gspendlove Жыл бұрын
I always flash back to the moment Toby told CJ that he was responsible for the leak. The expression on her face of betrayal and incredulity. She didn't have to say a word. Alison is a top tier, criminally underused actress who's been on set and gone toe to toe with the best.
@heddalee Жыл бұрын
The show she's on now is revoltingly stupid.
@kelqueen99986 ай бұрын
This is maybe my favorite Richard Schiff acting moment. "I did it." And then the close up of his face. He's a great face actor.
@helgacucumber3871 Жыл бұрын
"you think I came here to take advantage of you before they cart you off to the big house" is one of my favorite deliveries in the whole show. They did Richard/Toby a great disservice with this insulting leak plot but every scene with Alison and Richard is so good that they sell the crap story.
@karlrandow50042 жыл бұрын
West wing was one of my all time favorite shows
@nuculearbazooka Жыл бұрын
Their friendship is brilliant. Great performances and writing.
@ashwinoashwin Жыл бұрын
What a fabulous scene! I think this the last we see of toby and what a way to finish it. And poetic justice to how they show how they met - toby waiting for her at her house after she had just gotten fired and offering her the job of press secretary of the bartlet campaign
@LMays-cu2hp Жыл бұрын
I always miss this show so much!! It was a great show!!
@TheGconrad3 жыл бұрын
Not sure why but I teared up big time after seeing this scene.
@DennisMoore6642 жыл бұрын
That's a good sign, my dude. It's means you're working correctly. This was a damn fine series.
@michaelmuldowney82 жыл бұрын
Always great to see these actors go one and one together. Although the tension as to whether Toby was going to be pardoned was non existent as he was in the flash forward scene at the start of the season, where it was obvious he never went to prison
@Bazookatone1Ай бұрын
Not necessarily, he was never going to serve a long sentence nor would he have seved it in a high security prison, it would be plausible that he had done his stretch, been released on good behaviour and was now teaching at a nice mid tier college somewhere.
@tarteauxframboises2 жыл бұрын
This scene was so unbelievably sublime in how much subtext there was in the body language and eyes. That subtle tug at the belt when Toby approaches CJ after they stand up. It was sexual in the most unobvious way that I at first missed it.
@gbrown9324 ай бұрын
Yeah they were never sexual.
@theolamp53127 жыл бұрын
Maybe one of the greatest questions you can ask anyone you care about - "what do you want"
@Sparky17016 жыл бұрын
Unless you're a Shadow. I'd rather be asked, 'Who are you?'
@alexboyles78366 жыл бұрын
It’s also the hardest question to answer.
@HighMansx2 жыл бұрын
@@Sparky1701 I didn't ask for your name, I asked -- who are you?
@BigTimeCharley1956 Жыл бұрын
@@Sparky1701 "a Shadow" - haha that's exactly what I thought.
@kristabayliss8602 ай бұрын
Such an honest conversation.
@bbria284 жыл бұрын
Toby is still gorgeous
@davidhardwick38162 жыл бұрын
Damn this was an amazing show!
@cevq61263 жыл бұрын
bookend this with the scene of Toby asking CJ to join the campaign
@ktwashere56372 ай бұрын
what happened with Toby broke my heart but was actually pretty great. its in character.
@dirdib69 Жыл бұрын
CJ's so exhausted here - I really think if she'd accepted Santos' offer it would have damaged her health or even killed her.
@E.JayViera Жыл бұрын
Just as Bartlett did with Leo. An interesting parallel.
@pbdye160710 ай бұрын
There's a very good reason that Presidential Chiefs of Staff have such a high turnover.
@kirkyearwood43509 ай бұрын
What role was she offered?
@airdriver5 жыл бұрын
SPOILERS!!!!! I know Richard Schriff didnt like the way the producers handled his character at the end but I thought this scene was brilliantly written, produced and acted. It was a very human moment. the only thing I wished they would have done was showed Toby finding out about his pardon and breaking down and crying with relief. Maybe showing this after the final scene showing AF1 flying off towards tomorrow.
@daveinindy5 жыл бұрын
It's what we wanted to see, some time, some how. But it was better having to imagine it. Plus, showing it after AF1 flying off towards tomorrow? ... why you (and I) weren't writers for this show.
@joemckim11834 жыл бұрын
I don't see Toby as the type to break down and crying. I could see him sitting down and taking a deep breath likes he's finally relieved but crying isn't in his nature.
@airdriver3 жыл бұрын
Thats why it would have worked.
@dirdib692 жыл бұрын
Yes, he's always maintained that it didn't make sense for Toby to do what he did, and Schiff's only personal "canon" was that Toby was covering for someone - I figured it would be Andy.
@airdriver Жыл бұрын
@@dirdib69 Andy leaked information about a secret military shuttle? Unless she was on the House Armed Services committee there was very little chance of her leaking anything because she probably didn’t know of it’s existence.
@ryanwitt6861 Жыл бұрын
They were on the bang train years ago, this scene to me confirms it....but their friendship is so epic too as much as I ship them the anticipation and never ever is just as good 😅
@nata34672 жыл бұрын
Only 2 things bothered me in this show..Toby's betrayal and Jed turning on Leo.
@glennhoddle10 Жыл бұрын
Me 2. It was so out of character. Aaron Sorkin would never have written those story arcs. The show was still good but the scripts never hit the same lofty heights once Aaron left.
@larrysmith26383 ай бұрын
Jed didn't turn on Leo. Leo lost trust in Jed. I hated how they made Leo so hawkish during that brief period. Totally out of character.
Жыл бұрын
That was handy how there was a box for him to stand on right beside the door.
@Tricityhometeam7 жыл бұрын
The writers did this character a horrific wrong. And everyone, but them, knew it...
@almostfm7 жыл бұрын
You mean Toby? The "secret military shuttle" arc was probably the worst in the entire run of the series, if for no other reason than the bad science.
@whipjenkins6 жыл бұрын
no Sorkin,it wasn't the same show.
@hedlundable6 жыл бұрын
Schiff hated it too.
@MrStGeorgeIllawarra5 жыл бұрын
Meh. People do crazy things for their family.
@notoriouszig4 жыл бұрын
NAILED IT. This is what I bring up when people act like the show didn't miss Sorkin.
@Mia71893 жыл бұрын
Beautiful scene...
@ReaverLordTonus2 ай бұрын
Honestly, the chemistry between these characters has been on point since day one. Why the writers didn't pair them up is beyond me. The show had its different fun relationships. Josh and Donna was the chaotic funny one, Will and Kate was the adorable one, and Toby and CJ would have been the serious one.
@jimreily7538Ай бұрын
Because it's not Friends. Or Days of Our Lives. A bunch of staffers who are also lovers, working together for the President? Gag.
@andyhoover85312 жыл бұрын
Pals being buds
@alainawells2384 Жыл бұрын
they’ve explored each others bodies
@darkgable85 Жыл бұрын
My point is if Toby wanted to betray the president he should have done that in season 2... He didn't.... I didn't like how he would have written him off
@karlrandow50042 жыл бұрын
I wish they would continue with Matt santos as president
@gollumandeowyn3 жыл бұрын
This show was perfect... Then they lost Sorkin and Lowe and completely FORGOT about Schiff. I never really clicked with the Will character and can't even remember the blonde's name (not Ainsley, the other one).
@sovak752 жыл бұрын
AnnaBeth was great.
@SotonCueMan2 жыл бұрын
@@sovak75 I think he means Kate Harper.... I agree AnnaBeth was great! Especially her reaction when Leo hacked her email to leak the debate prep!
@CCISolitude11 ай бұрын
I've always thought CJ was the leak, and Toby took the blame for her.
@katetallentpcconsultant2 ай бұрын
Toby was the leak. I always thought the President told him. Just not to tell
@kevenpinder70252 ай бұрын
Sloppy narrative. The single most perishable commodity in DC is secrets. In a year, or a month, or a week, the existence of the secret shuttle would leak from somewhere. A WH staffer, a Pentagon paper pusher, a disgruntled USAF senior sergeant or a janitor in some comm center. Once out, Bartlett's legacy implodes to 3 words, "Three Dead Astronauts." That could never be an acceptable outcome.
@andrewgundy30452 жыл бұрын
CJ is my dream girl
@bobert4him7 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah. Absolutely yeah. But don't do it anyway
@markshaw7253 Жыл бұрын
Is it me, or does this scene imply that they had a friends with benefits relationship in the past?
@momcatwoo Жыл бұрын
That’s what the actors agreed on.
@stillhere955 жыл бұрын
Oh season 7, How you butchered my original cast.
@MatsThyWit3 жыл бұрын
Eh. The original cast was kind of screwed by season 6. Season 7 only really butchered Toby. So much so that I don't think he even appeared in the final episode.
@vinylrecord683 жыл бұрын
@@MatsThyWit Just watched the show (for the first time), and you are correct. It was disappointing that only he was left out of the final episode.
@cherylb67553 жыл бұрын
Shubhika~ Yup. When I re-watch the series, I only go through Season 6.
@nicksambides2628 Жыл бұрын
Reunite, not reunites.
@Steve_Hayden Жыл бұрын
What did Toby do? Was that pardon for him?
@angusperson4222 Жыл бұрын
Leaked the existence of a classified military space shuttle to the press in an effort to force the president to rescue some stranded astronauts using it.
@Steve_Hayden Жыл бұрын
@@angusperson4222 thanks
@johnparker2957 Жыл бұрын
Rather he took the blame for the leak to protect his dying brother who was an astronaut and who was the one who leaked the story.
@Steve_Hayden Жыл бұрын
@@johnparker2957 thank you
@flyboy152 Жыл бұрын
@@johnparker2957 When talking with Andy, Toby was quite vehement about denying it was his brother David. So, either he was lying to his ex, or he had some other source of info.
@punknhead236 жыл бұрын
Hated CJ with Danny, he seems so little boyish. Not for her. Wish they hadn't killed of Simon Donovan.
@darlene81306 жыл бұрын
punknhead23 imo mark harmon is best in ncis. so i can't complain eventhough i agree he's best for CJ.
@punknhead236 жыл бұрын
Darlene would like to see Allison J. do a guest appearance in NCIS. Yes good Harmon got his own gig.
@JustinSIsTank4 жыл бұрын
"The West Wing": CBS's great casting call.
@JohnLutherable4 жыл бұрын
maybe Danny has a cannon in his pants as well
@joemckim11834 жыл бұрын
@@punknhead23 It's crazy that Harmon's performance on The West Wing is probably what earned him the role of NCIS. NCIS is still on the air all these years later.
@steve-from-toronto Жыл бұрын
The last two seasons of this show were so weak.
@paulmasuicca5304 Жыл бұрын
Why, in movies and TV shows is there ALWAYS a parking space directly in front of where the actor needs to go?