I have a 991.2 , entering my fifth summer driving season . I drive it every day while it’s insured outside winter months . If I would torture the data to the extent that you do , I probably would have been watching the graphs and articles waiting years to buy rather than watching the trees fly by as I enjoyed it on a daily basis . Want to drive cheaply ? Do t drive a Porsche . Want an exhilarating driving experience that feels like an event every time you turn the key ? Don’t wait . You are on this earth for a finite time . Get busy living , or get busy dying .

The 991.2 will go down as one of the most beautiful 911s ever made.

Just bought a 991.2 gt3 this month!

Never a bad time to buy a GT3😝

992 GT3 production is not limited in numbers, nor will GT4 RS' be limited in numbers, so as long as you're willing to pay mark ups, you will get one. Porsche beat their 2019 sales record by 14 percent, and their 2020 number by 22 percent, and they're just getting started. VW group is prioritizing production of their high profit / high price models over their run of the mill models, so 2022 will be another record year for Porsche. Many limited edition 911s are in the horizon too. So I think you are on point. In the next 5 years, we can also factor in older GT3 owners who might be looking to sell due to knee, back, & hip pain. I think we're in for a very slight depreciation in the next 5 years, maybe even more long term (think 10-15 years) as younger generations don't seem to be into cars as much as millennials, Gen X, and baby boomers are/were.

Thanks for another great video! I always love the Porsche videos the most

I love your videos... Might I suggest a video on some older V12 manual cars like a original Murcielago or 550 Maranello the Murcielago has been climbing like crazy over the last year :)

Great video collection. Really enjoy them all. Can you possibly share the most recent Jan 22 presentation for the GT3? I'd like to walk though it a bit more in detail. Thanks.

This is brilliant- didn't know about some of these factors and was toying with a GT3 purchase...i think i'll wait,

I love your videos, the analysis is fantastic. Thank you for being a wealth of knowledge. Are your able to do a new analysis on the AMG GT's?

very spot on analysis, overall i think the market will continue to remain stable and there is a possibility of a price decrease as the production for 992 goes up, as you mentioned unless there are issues with the 992 which is unlikely, the prices will fall. Also as the prices on the 992 remains high, it will likely transition into stable prices overall on the 991.2 prices

I own a 997.2 Gt3 with less than 8000 miles on it. It is an absolutely showroom condition has never been tracked and h Its GT silver. I am putting it up for sale in the next several weeks and expect it to go for record price. Great video great content I enjoy your channel very much. Thanks.

Always like the analysis you do. I agree I think the market will decrease on all used cars, not just the collector cars. It was a bit of an anomaly what occurred for all cars over the past year and a half. It’s like anything that increases at such a rate over a short period of time bound to have a correction at some point. How much who knows.

Thanks for providing this informative videos. I’ve been watching for a couple years now. Can you do a video on the Mercedes G wagon?

Fantastic info and video! Thank you champion💪🙏🙌🌅

Superb analysis thay reflects my thoughts. Thanks your this video

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Interesting and thoughtful. Thank u. I am also in the camp of getting a 991.2 gt3. My 991.2 c2s trade in is also very high compared to normal so I think the delta has not moved that far. I agree that the downside is a bit higher than the up but then I think I am moving to a better vehicle and lower downside vs a regular 911 with more potential downside. What do you think?

Great analysis absolutely agree with you. I'm waiting. 😊

Love the videos. Just wondering where you get price data? Thanks

Awesome video! Congrats

Fantastic analysis as always and very thankful. In addition to the factors you mentioned, I wonder whether the introduction of the 992GT3 as a halo car had some effect in the uprise of the GT3 line in general, by attention going to the GT3 as being symbolic. This may explain the recent surge of 996GT3 in prices in addition to the diminishing availability due to 996 becoming classic, and 996GT3 being a halo car. If so then the same could happen with the GT2 lineage when 992GT2 is intro’d in a couple of years, as they have been the ultimate 911 halo since the 993.

The new 991.1 ‘G’ spec engines are solid, this should be remembered. Only the early e/f engines had problems. Thanks for a great video!

Great analysis as usual, I‘m watching all your videos on Porsche GT cars. I‘m wondering if you shouldn‘t also take the fairly low production numbers into consideration when speaking about future price trends e.g., only 1240 997 GT2s or 1600 997.2 GT3RS were built. Also the 991.1 GT3 was built in very limited numbers due to the initial recall of the E-series engine. Fewer numbers than the 991.2.

Think the 991.2 Tourings will hold value more than their winged sister/brother because of the over-reaction to the lack of availability of the R. As supply increases on the 992 Tourings I believe the 991.2 will depreciate as it truly is not limited, but not at the rate of the winged variant. Thanks for a great channel!

I think 991.2 Touring prices will be rather stable - especially compared to 992 GT3 prices- due to low production numbers of the 991.2 Touring (only around 2.000 produced worldwide, so only slightly more than Speedsters) and because many people think that it has a better design than the 992 Touring

Congrats on the sponsorship deal. Great as always.

Nice Video, Thanks

Incredibly insightful. In market so this was timely

I am happy that there are people who can afford these cars and enjoy them! God willing I will be blessed with business and can afford one in the future, but with where the prices are going that is becoming more and more of a dream. We'll see what happens, beautiful cars. I love the 991.2 👍

Great video! You can draw parallels between your GT3 market analysis and the broader market as a whole. In fact because the GT3 is such a highly sensitive premium good, it might even come in advance of a similar effect in the rest of the economy. I am very sure your predictions will turn out to be right!

What adm do you think is reasonable or possibly safe if you had an allocation for a 2023 GT3 touring pdk?

You'll see a bifurcation in price between G6 991.1's and the other E, F and G0 991.1's. These are awesome raw cars and much closer to 991.2 GT3 performance/value than the current price gap would suggest. In some ways the .1 is a better driver's car than the .2, PDK vs PDK. The G6 is essentially a destroked version of what's in the .2

In my opinion the 991.2 Gt3 is more beautiful than the 992 gt3. Straight-line performance is identical. As for the times at the Nurburgring, the difference on the 20 km track is around 12 seconds. However, the 991.2 gt3 was fitted with michelin Cup2 while the 992 gt3 was fitted with cup2R, this means that if the 991.2 is fitted with the CupR, the gap is certainly not 12 seconds but a few seconds less. Having said that I'm not saying that the 991.2 is technically better than the 992, but the differences are very minimal. Probably only a very experienced pilot notices small details, everything else is just marketing. On the European market, a 992 GT3 with few km (miles) is valued at around 240/250k. A 991.2 Gt3 with few km (miles) is estimated at around 180 / 190 k. In my opinion, the approximately 60k difference is not justified.

Nice video 👍

A couple points to add: Porsche confirmed that the 911 will always have an ICE, so this may not be a factor for markets such as those in the US. Also, Porsche recently confirmed an increase in supply for the 992 Porsches in general (including some gt3s presumably) with 900 of them allocated this first quarter. Great vid really good points

Great vid, our UK prices are largely similar to US and I’d like to see the historical data for UK. I’m looking at 991.2’s but as you observe they feel overpriced by around 10% so I will likely wait till summer and see how it develops. If I could get a 992 I would, with options they are the same price in the UK as a 10,000 mile 991.2 , but as all say just not available unless you’ve bought 10 of the things over the past 5 years. I do love my 4.0 Cayman so not a great penalty to wait.

If prices of 991.1 are stable it would be better to buy now while the troubled engine is in warranty rather than later when the engine will be out of warranty.

I had a 991.1 Carrera S, which I sold in late 2019 in order to upgrade. Was looking at GTS models and GT3s (which were going for $80K to about $110K respectively). Now we're looking at $115K GTSs and $140K GT3s. For me, the value is no longer there, especially with the potential for the 991.1 GT3 engine to grenade out of warranty very soon. People were exorcised about the 996 IMS and RMS issues and those were nothing compared to potential issues with the .1 GT3s. I'm hoping prices return to earth in 2023 and I can get back in the game, but who knows. Greenspan talked about irrational exhuberance during the dotcom era stock market, but that's nothing compared to the current car market.

I sold my 991.2 gt3 manual a few months ago for a big profit....I'm rueing my decision! it was the best car I've ever driven...given that it had a bullet proof engine, was a manual, had analog gauges....why did I sell it! It had the bucket seats, FAL, leather etc...if prices come down to msrp I would buy one again asap!

Will keep my manual 991.2 lava orange for life !!! Best cars I drove

it could be fun to see the same video but for the canadian market.... as owner of a canadian gt3, it could help to see it!!!

Nice work as usual - I think the 991.1 GT3 will remain a bit of an anomaly due to PDK only and its non-motorsports engine that had some teething issues, and as you said that warranty is running out. Very expensive engines to fix ... that stigma will stay with the car. I would like to see also what the 997.1 and 997.2 GT3's and RS's are also doing with the same sort of analysis given I have a 997.1 GT3 lol.

Brilliant🏁

Almost got a heart attack, but a below market 991.2 GT3 Touring should therefore still not be a desaster. And do not forget: Fun has no depreciation!! And a GT3 is ounces of fun!!! Btw. Congrats on your (I think) first sponsor!!! You deserve it for your great work and videos!!

Could you please do the f80 M3/M4?

Supply in future years will be different because in some point gt3 will be hybrid! Then the prices of the fully gas engine gt3 will manta in high

I believe the GT3 prices will stabilize in 2022 and then next year start declining if rates go above 1%. I'm hoping I can pick a good deal next year!

No comments on the GT3 992! Are people paying the $-00,000 plus going to get killed or make money? I was offered red d a GT3 with a $50,000 premium and I turned it down- was I being stupid???

Awesome videos! Would love it if you would also take the european market into account though, would be cool to see the differences and very useful for people in the EU :)

I don't think that the prices of GT3s will go any lower. If anything, they'll increase even further considering the current situation of supply chains(microchips) that causes the shortage and long waiting times. I don't think that the prices will remain stable or pull back before the end of 2023 or beginning of 2024.

It is impossible since july 2021 to order an 992 gt3 worldwide .....😳😳😳 yes you still can configure one but not order it with porsche.....

996.2 GT3 just closed on BaT with a high bid of $127k, reserve not met. Curious if you’ve ever considered how stock market performance impacts the value of these cars as many are now being bought as “investments”.

Guhhh...should have pulled the trigger on the 997.1 gt3 at $65k a couple years back.

Could you do and updated video on this ? Thank you

What if you don’t want a the car to keep it sitting in your garage to increase value? What if you want to drive the heck out of it until it has over 100k miles. I might buy a 2015 GT3 with 19k miles for 153. Do you think I should still wait?

I am wondering if it is worth paying above MSRP for a new 992 GT3, and if so, how much more above MSRP should someone pay in today’s market.

Going down!!!!!!!!!

Another great vid. I think 991.1 prices will always be hampered by the engine issues. They may drop more as the end of the 10 year manufacturer engine warranties expire.

Hi hope you are doing well can you please do 981 gt4 ?

What about the 996.2 GT3 ?

Worst time to buy any vehicle.......bought mine almost a year ago and cars like mine are selling for about $8k more than what I paid with more miles even.....gzzzz. My car is just an ordinary sedan.....although very nice and very low miles and loaded.

Excellent post and demystification of the overpriced GT3! Can you please do a piece on the overinflated 993 4S, which is now approaching $200,000? It's a total scam, as the Carrera 4 has the exact same drivetrain, motor, horsepower and torque. People are paying twice as much for a car that has slightly bigger brakes, and a slightly larger rear end, which nobody will notice!

I'm thinking that the market will stay stable for GT3s rather than up or down too much. With Covid, there's been a change in psychology for living for the day. Here is a vehicle that is inherently great (performance, reliability, character) that (wealthy) people can enjoy. It's a vehicle that people will want to own for a long time, becuase last-ish of the NA. I think these factors will stabilize the prices near this level.

Drive the car, the value drops. DOH!

Unless you’re a competitive track junky, the performance difference between a 991.1 and a 992 doesn’t merit a $153,000 premium. I would rather buy the 991.1 and put a C8 Z06 in the garage next to it for my 300 grand. And still have a blast on track day.

991.1 carrera s!

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🤦🏾‍♂️im never getting one 🤬🤬🤬🤬

If inflation continues will lead to imminent recession and will help you be right, but not only on the GT3 market, in mostly all the other car markets! That's where I will use the cash I got from the sale of 991.2 and buy another!

If Stocks and crypto keep, crashing exotics will follow.

Would really appreciate it if you could comment on the UK market as you may have a lot of followers from there like myself :D

Well this video hasn’t aged very well and it’s only been 2 months. Prices just keep getting sillier and sillier…

I configured a 992 GT3 touring and came out to $186k USD then I see dealers trying to sell 992 GT3 for $280K+ with less options than I specc’d so I’m on hold right now and instead playing with the stock market with my Morgan Stanley investments….GT3 ownership will just have to wait….

I just drive 🤷🏻‍♂️

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One GLARING omission in your analysis. Values are up across the board, not just GT3's. So the relatively price delta is all that is relevant. I received $20k more for my Porsche trade (than I would have 18 months ago) on a 991.1 GT3 that was only $15k above nominal/last 5 year price of ~$125-130k. So, it's all relative. OTD after trade is what matters. Also keep in mind, only GT3's and unicorn (911R, 997.2 4.0 RS, etc) Porsches have historically appreciated and held their respective value. The other ones don't, yet they are equally inflated in value right now. Making your GT3 inflated price argument immaterial if you have a trade. Again, price delta is all that matters. In regards to the 991.1 motor, it's "blown" (pun intended) out of proportion. Many head checks at 35k miles and no wear. It's a manufacturing metallurgical/inclusion issue that affects a small percentage, maybe 10% of all ~6,300 produced. If not, Porsche will give you a brand new G6 motor, which is bulletproof. I still have 3.5 years left on my factory engine warranty (that's effectively a new 4 year Porsche/Factory warranty). If a 991.1 motor is going to go, it will before ~30k miles. All the 991.2's are now mostly out of original factory warranty, you will have to find a CPO example or buy aftermarket/Fidelity, which is only two years. The 991.2's are also arguably too refined from the 991.1, none of the admirable quirks of the 991.1. The low rpm rumble, SMFW clattering, mechanical whine of the 3.8 between 8500-9000, has all been filtered out. The 991.2 is also not as good looking or timeless as the 991.1. Lots of tacked on black plastic bits, shark mouth front-end. Ultimately, those cosmetic and visceral/emotional reasons along with an average price delta of ~$50k!! (you could buy yourself a G6 motor with $50k and have Porsche put it in for you) I went with a 991.1, of which most still have 3+ years of factory motor warranty! If you want a GT3, now is the time to buy. Clean, low mileage examples are getting harder and harder to find. The 992 is FUGLY, and it rides stiffer than an RS. Not a good street car at all. The 992 in general will not age well or go down in history as a classic, like the 991's will. The 911 died when they debuted the 992.

Every time I watch one of these I sink deeper and deeper into depression. Come on crypto investments ;-P