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You should do a video on Buffy the vampire slayer and charmed from 1998

I‘m so annoyed and tired of every other second KZfaqr doing a HelloFresh Sponsorship and and constantly seeing those ads!!!

@@annakareninamaximova why? It means they're getting in their bag.

Life sentence was filmed in my house. They edited the top of it but yeah. Not many people talk abt it, for good reason

Bruh😂 that’s why I’ll always big up creators who can sit through that then give us videos

Preach, Dylan sits through these God-awful shows so that we don't have to!

Amen

Your pfp ✨🌸🥺

This is me 😂 I don't even have patience and focus to watch good shows that I actually like 🤣

Lady judy dench is a hard contender

does she ??

@@rengokusfox she does

@@rengokusfox you stole my comment

@@fleeting188 nah she doesn’t

The writers kind of ate there idk

Ok glad I'm not the only one. That was brutal, I think the actress really sold it.

i was just going to say this like that was cunty too bad her delivery was poor XD

i gasped tbh

Is it?

This show could have been improved sooo much by merely punching up the dialogue that George Lucas would be ashamed to put his name on, even if they didn’t change a single thing else.

@@KariIzumi1 Is that the show with the line "My dad died because I was having incredible sex!"

@@deen7530 it is indeed, and the one where the other girl who got pregnant in Season 3 or 4 had her day say he wouldn’t remarry her mom if she didn’t go through w the pregnancy for unhinged reasons I’ve long forgotten. No wonder Amy Juergen always seemed like an angry bitch….it was Shailene Woodley’s own exasperation and anger coming through like a _Riverdale_ cast member

Yes! I tried to watch it a couple times but I just couldn't!! 😂

I was in seventh grade when I first heard of this show. My classmates couldn't stop talking about it. I tried watching one episode, which my parents caught me watching (they were pretty strict with TV). They told me never to touch it again, but the thing was: I never intended on watching it again anyway because the episode I watched sucked ass.

Absolutely. Skins was straight up ugly. There was puke and sweat and piss. Euphoria has a different vision, which is fine, but it ends up taking itself so seriously that it just doesn't feel real. Also - the characters in Skins were played by actual teenagers, which also makes a world of a difference.

And unlike Euphoria, Skins also had characters that were actually likable.

I've never seen either show but I do know that iconic gen 2 character James Cook just looked absolutely disgusting after every single scuffle he found himself in. Just all round gross, blood that was his mixed with someone else's. Also he had that genuine teenage false bravado that fit very well from some clips I saw: acting tough & loud & extraverted when really he was lonely as hell. He cried saying nothing good stays with him to Freddie. Then he loses Freddie & is sobbing on his knees in front of his house. And then you see him as an adult fugitive cuz he killed his best friend's murderer and how does he look... fucking depressed & an emptier shell of an already fairly empty shell! Jack O'Connell is a really good actor & good looking bloke but Cook? No way!

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@@karrihart1 and those that weren’t, or those who are extremely ambiguous (Tony) very realistic to actually people you meet even as an adult

Yes exactly

Any examples?

Yeah

In the Dark is one show that I would put on that list. I couldn’t get past the end of the first season, but the original premise and mystery could make for a great show! Too bad it was on the CW, so it quickly became trash. In addition to the storylines degrading, the way the lead actress portrayed being blind often felt silly and ignorant, like how she would stumble around with her hands out inside her own apartment.

@@Torihappyness Not shows but movies: Pasangers (great premise, terrible execution) and Downsizing (the premise was cool, but they didn't use the premise well)

Yeah, a lot of the Skins plots were poorly written nonsense...but the acting was so good it made it still enjoyable.

@@ShadowSonic2only gen 1 was good

Yes honestly I feel like this show is so underrated 😊

You are right

If it was a network like HBO or AMC, they’d probably follow the book more closely. Or at least focus less on the lazy romantic subplot and more on the mystery surrounding the twins. I read the book when I had COVID recently, and it was so good. I finished it in about two days🤣 ABC wasted what could’ve been a solid mystery.

@@gigiapollo The twins, what the Lying Game actually was, and where the twins came from were the best parts of the book. I'd love a more faithful adaptation on a platform like HBO.

Came here to comment the same thing!

I got into an eBay bidding war for the first two books and won. I wished the show had stuck to the books. Sometimes I think showrunners have a nasty habit of tryna outdo the author of the book or books on which they're adapting their shows

The best teen shows on the CW. they inherited from WB, Buffy and Veronica Mars. Is there going to be a list of the best?

@@michaeladkins6 Veronica Mars was actually on UPN, not The WB.

@@noraofthefuture Yeah, you're right. The merge of those two channels (The WB and UPN) is what became The CW though so they're at least right about The CW inheriting those shows.

Same! I was thinking "Oh, this actually sounds cool, my grandpa died of cancer when I was barely even 2 years old, so this would be cool to see, what was wrong with it?" And then he said the CW made it, and I was like "Oh, *that's* what was wrong with it...fuck."

​@Michael Adkins true, but I think the value of "the best teen shows" on the CW died in the early 2010s.

Thanks man 🙏

Skins? I gotta see what he says about this...

I've never seen any of these show, guess I dodged some bullets here 🙈

@@bloodislife He talks about the US version

thanks, never seen any of them 😁

Wholeheartedly agree!

There are a few. Shameless, House of Cards, The Office, Whose Line Is It Anyway, Queer As Folk, Being Human, Veep (The Thick of It), and a few others.

I'm liking US Ghosts. Not as much but decent enough to keep watching.

I feel like Shameless UK and US have very different approaches and that's why both worked (in my opinion). UK is supposed to be lighter, funnier, even in its darkest topics, while US is far more serious and tackles the reality of the situation with a lot more drama.

@@jax422 Nah the American version of Being Human was bad

It also would make more sense if it were a movie or a miniseries. Not a multi season show

@@bejo2551A multi-season show could work. Personal growth is not linear. They could explore many different things about her family, career, and… life. It could have been an interesting character arc. Wasted potential.

​@@mhawang8204 Key word being would. I prefer films and miniseries now, simply because I don't want to waste years and feel disappointed. You absolutely could make a series work though, like how Walter White experiences and changes so much in Breaking Bad

Haha right

Yeah, I really liked the sound of the story too. So much they set themselves up for, but neglected all because they think people enjoy love triangles. We're so over love triangles.

I really hope Lucy got a better agent or gets one soon.

Katy Keene was actually a fun light hearted show it deserved better

She keeps doing mediocre shows and terrible blumhouse movies

@@iusedtowrite6667 her agent keeps giving her scripts for those. Hopefully now that she's sober she'll be on to better projects

@@rahbeeuh yeah she needs a better agent fr

yep

I was also thinking HBO, but also Hulu or Lifetime (for some reason).

Even the cw could have done something good but the writing just wasn't there. Even the pilot was just not good and it immediately just all felt like set up for a character but not like they were actually planning on exploring the concept well. Someone needs to redo this premise.

i agree 100%, i definitely think the show should've been alot darker story and tone wise, and stella should've been a more complex character, someone who makes pretty questionable choices and is hard to root for but maybe also someone you feel a little bad for

The show was good but they should’ve done more character structural elements

Same here. I just recently rewatched the show on Hulu and it hit me even harder the second time around because this time I knew we would never have a conclusion to it

They're actually triplets but it's all in the other triplet's head

literally same ! i still rant about wanting answers since i first saw the show 😭😭

Yes that show was bad

The show was way too long I think!

The conversations went on forever! The whole show was just talking and talking and talking about the same things.

When you know that the same producer did 7th Heaven, which did nothing but talk about people’s sex life for the last four seasons after Aaron Spelling stepped down and Brenda Hampton took over, a lot of things make sense about why this show was Like That

oh yeah that show is awful but i love it for it lol

I know! I’m a cancer survivor myself and this sounds like such an interesting premise that you hardly ever see explored in media (but sadly is the reality for some people).

I liked Life Sentance and how it contradicted a lot of the cancer movies and how the live life to the fullest can change when you have a second chance of life. I wish it had been renewed

@@jamiegdubois I’m glad you survived cancer, how are you holding up?

Damnit, yes.

that was me when I watched teen wolf for the first time in 2021, I still liked it a lot but I know my middle/high school self would have loved it and found it less cringe. I'm almost 22 now, and I probably would have been way more excited for the movie if i had watched the show when it was airing, I still was but then well... you know it came out.. lol

felt like that for pretty little liars original sin i would eat that shit up and get to invested in it

Recently I rewatched Jane By Design, I adored this show… let’s just say I shouldn’t rewatch it.

This is me with Dragon Ball GT. As much as I loved it for being a part of the Dragon Ball franchise, I understood the garbage quality that it has, both in plot and characters. Still, the me from 8th and younger used to watch everything on TV with a passion, so no regrets honestly.

@@hemulek omg, I loved Jane by Design! guess I’m not rewatching it 😂

maybe the contract didn't allow her to speak badly abt the show and that's why she didn't say anything?

The first thing I ever saw Shailene Woodley in was actually not Secret Life of American Teenager,but "Felicity :An American Girl " a movie based on the "American Girl " books .

I don’t care what anyone says, I LOVE SECRET LIFE OF THE AMERICAN TEENAGER 😄😂 it’s so bad it’s good

@@allurajane4979 I'm sure that's the case. She can talk about it now tho. I'm listening 😂

@@mysticloverfairy1 I remember reading she was in that. Never saw it tho.

I remember hating the show purely because of how many ads ran for it back in the day.

@@eatatjoes6751 Valid

Yeah I hated how they treated Adrian. I quit when they had her get pregnant after having sex while using birth control AND condoms. They really wanted to beat abstinence into teens brains, but how many people would've just thought "birth control and condoms don't work, so I'm better off not using anything"?

Ben really was the devil. He had gaslighting down to a science at age 15, which is horrifying.

Alexa & Katie takes the prize on that one! I know is a sitcom, but it has a girl with cancer in it and emotional moments, so makes it kinda counts as a drama 😅.

@@RodrickMarsMoon awwww i watched that in was such a wholesome show

Erm, no. Not really. I dislike the idea that well written plots cannot seem to go hand in hand with romantic subplots.

@@mericido5609 Why do we always need romantic/sexual subplots though

The issue isn't the romance it's that it's supposed to be a subplot for one, and that they force a love triangle where it's not necessary. I think life sentence having to navigate a romance/genuine friendship with her husband is appealing. Because I get why she would marry him but after only a month why did He marry her?

@@potatopotatoesbro And what's wrong with having a romance/sexual subplots?

​@@mericido5609 That we don't need them *IN EVERY SHOW AND MOVIE*

I’m so😅p😊😊plus p😅😅p😅pplus pppp😅😊😊😊😊😊

Same in Glee. I can name so many people who like should’ve went to jail or should’ve stayed hated.

It’s insane, Damon Salvatore is a great example in my opinion.

Chuck from Gossip Girl is a great example of this. He tried to forcibly have sex with Jenny Humphrey in episode 1 of the show and by the end he's Blair's prince charming.

So true! Instantly thinking about Vampire Diaries, PLL also..

Precisely, it gave 11 year old me unrealistic expectations of what I was going to look like as a teenager! 😂

I remember being like 15 and randomly catching an episode of Dawson's Creek on TV. I had never watched the show, so when Dawson abruptly said something like "I'm only 16 years old!" I legit had a spit take - no sir you are very much NOT in my age bracket excuse me?!

Which current teen shows have actual teens as actors? Can't think of any

theres literally a term for this called "dawson casting" so named after Dawson's Creek

@propogandalf Not having actual teens per se, but actors who actually look like teens. Heartstopper, Ginny and Georgia, Never Have I Ever, Sex Education, Young Royals, for example.

America is so prudish it's ridiculous.

​@@Elora445It's weirdly prudish and sexual at the same time. Like no nudity guys, but fetishizing pedophilia is a-ok!

@@Elora445 And it's only gotten worse. Look at all the hate Euphoria has gotten. But, at the same time, a couple of years ago I heard that the actresses on the UK version were sexually harassed. The producer was pretty much a predator and would force them to get costume approvals from him by modeling the bathing suits in front of him.

@@TheRealityofFake One could blame that on the fact that the USA started out as Brits, too. It had to start somewhere, right? :P But seriously, that's fucking awful. I hope he has gotten some kind of punishment for that? Probably too much to hope for...

SKAM Norway remains the top for me. Can’t watch any other version. The best teen drama ever!

Omg yes probably the closest show to skins as well!

I did, as it came out. It was a shame seeing such a good idea go up in flames so quickly.

Saame, I thought Katy Keeene had a lot of potential

The pilot of katy keene is so generic and boring, I stop after that

Why does she always seem to show up in shitty things despite her talent?! Katy Keen, Life Sentence, Truth or Dare... PLL was kinda mid, it had a lot of good moments but was still considered trash due to the endless plot points among other things...Lucy Hale needs a new agent honestly...

Charisma is also a much better than actress than the woman who played Elena’s mom

Bad writing will kill a show every time. The Lying Game was like "we're not gonna follow the books plotlines but we don't have any idea what we're gonna do instead so let's distract the audience with a love triangle." Which honestly didn't even make sense. Ethan for some reason is just completely fine with being Sutton's secret boyfriend until he meets Emma. After falling for Emma because she's the "good twin" he decides that he also still has feelings for Sutton. Why? She's awful and she was awful to him?

@@austinm8334 she was good in The L Word

@@lithiumkid she’s also fantastic in Not Another Teen Movie

Me too lol

I’m surprised Faking It didn’t make an appearance too

Same here! I was truly awful but I couldn’t stop watching 😂

Oh yes. I know that show extremely well, I'm embarrassed to admit, and the thing easiest to mock is how repetitive and unnatural the dialogue is.

Was she trying to move into the music industry? Because they did do a story arc about Laurel (the little sister) being a singer.

I loved that show! It definitely turned disappointing before disappearing which was sad because the premise was super interesting. Even my mom got into it lol

I remember this!!

The Lying Game was my jam when it was on, and I have always been sad about how it was canceled. But he is totally not wrong. Even if it had 4 more seasons, we never would have had any answers. So many shows are wasted on the basis that the writers will not commit to finishing a story.

It was good! I enjoyed it!

Right? And it was by Sarah as well. I wish it hadn’t gotten cancelled and went with the book story as well.

I haven't even watched skins, and I don't think the concept is anything for me, and yet I've heard good things about it from people who like it so I got insulted on their behalf somehow "but x said it was good! What do you mean it's bad!"

​@@TeruteruBozusama Bro, same🤣

@@TeruteruBozusama You should watch it, it’s probably the best teen drama ever, next to Sex Education.

@@johanaforever965 I'm not much of a drama (or sitcom) person as I'm sex repulsed and I hate parties, so I'm sure I'll personally hate that series, that doesn't mean it's bad, just that it's not for me.

@@TeruteruBozusama Yeah, I'd say it would be best to avoid most teen shows then but if the issue is only sex and parties, there are still other comedies and dramas that barely have any of that. Especially when it comes to sitcoms, I don't think I've seen a lot that. I personally like Brooklyn Nine Nine, The Good Place, and Community. They don't really have any parties and I don't think they had any sex scenes besides maybe a small number where people were clothed and just kissing and then they cut to the next morning (correct me if I'm wrong though). If you dislike watching shows that have any reference to sex at all (even just quickly mentioning it in a scene), I can see how it gets more difficult to find shows like that. Other than kids' shows, I remember that Once Upon a Time was like that, at least for the first five seasons (I didn't finish the rest). I think generally shows catered to older adults (as opposed to young adults) tend to avoid those things anyway so I think you're safe in those shows too. I'm sorry if I've misunderstood you, I just thought I'd chime in. What type of shows do you usually watch?

You have the same name as an actress(is that you😯???)

@@natat6135 lol I’m dramatic but unfortunately not an actress

"The Tyler Perry of content" omfg I've never heard it put that way and you're so right. It fits so well. 💀

I feel bad for the voiceover guy because he had to continually hype up such 16th century crap.

Yes this comment hit the nail on the head

it’s also incredibly misogynistic. i find it so weird that only the women seemed to bare the consequences of having premarital sex. it never affected the men. like Adrian’s stillborn, of course Ricky was upset but they show her in a deep depression for the next few episodes whereas Ricky is completely fine. that show was so harmful and toxic, im surprised it slipped through the cracks as long as it did.

@@crab2195 its more harmful to women because women get pregnant, not men, and since she was pregnant she had a more emotional connection to the preborn child, not sayong that it wont affect the father at all, but just will affect the mother tremendously more, so it makes sense for her to fall in a state of depression and for him to not be as depressed as her. Edit: Didn't seem like you were talking about consequences, but misoginy, which I don't see, but ig ppl see things differently based on their own experience, opinions and beliefs.

@@user-vl7fm8ck2m i’m talking more about the other consequences shown on the show, like Grace’s dad dying in a plane crash. if it was just the stillborn that’d be one thing, but it was a reoccurring theme in the show. and i’m not sure that’s always true. obviously the pain/trauma will affect the mother more than anyone else but it can leave a lasting impact on fathers as well. adrian’s character was portrayed as the immoral slut (not my opinion but obviously the one they were pushing for her) so her receiving the worst consequences isn’t a coincidence. perhaps i’m reading too much into it but that’s what happens when you have a very preachy show with ambiguous messaging.

@@crab2195 I ain't reading all ah dat

I definitely missed Alexandra Chando more than the actual show once it was canceled! I’ve been obsessed with the name Sutton ever since.

Agreed! The books are superior to the show

I think it’s too hard to do a deep dive on when the show in general was trying so hard to push such problematic agendas. Every point would just be how wrong all of the characters are for the things they say. Ricky’s story is the only thing you can really dive into for sustenance, and they don’t exactly focus on him. I say this as someone that watched it when it aired, and also binged it as an adult like 2yrs ago. I feel you on the guilty pleasure, but it was bad when it aired and it’s even worse to go back through now 🤦🏼‍♀️

@@MaryLoveJane that is a valid point. I also went back and watched the show as an adult and for some reason it made me want a deep dive even more. There was so much potential and it fell apart at every level. Dissecting the show would be fascinating in my opinion, but I see your view.

@@littlewhispers8926 I’m not saying it can’t or shouldn’t be done, just my guess why it hasn’t been done so far 🤷🏼‍♀️

@@MaryLoveJane it's a good guess. There were a lot of problems, so it'd had to be a multi-video project just to cover them, the characters, everything. It's a good theory.

I’ve never watched either, but another comment mentioned a Swedish show named Sjukt with a similar premise

Please don’t tempt anyone to try and reboot Twin Peaks…it can’t be done! Its a perfect piece of history. I will only accept brilliant parody’s like that episode of Psych where they used the cast and the whole thing was one big inside joke lol

@Caylee Davis Well granted it also finished back in 2017 and I doubt a reboot is even really possible, but considering how many teen dramas have mysteries on top of mysteries, I'm pretty certain you can trace the influence back to TP.

@@SaraBanartist oh I agree, the original 2 seasons were enough to inspire so many of the dramas we’ve seen in the 2000’s! If anything, the original cast and crew continuing to expand on it themselves over the years has kept it from getting rebooted by others.

Sometimes bad shows can be fun even if they're not great for you, much like junk food

It _could_ have been a heartwarming story if it was handled better but what they did was trash.

Absolutely agree, it’s like they wanted her to die and not be thankful she’s alive and cured. I mean just the mental health with knowing everyone around you are surprised your walking around not in the ground,it would mess with your head.

They said sex way too many times pre episode if one played a drinking fame with that show they would be dead from alcohol poisoning.

Same😂😂😂

Same😊

Me too